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1909. Motion Pictures - Censorship (D-09-35)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
activities of the Board of Censorship of Programs of Motion Picture Shows and
its successor, the National Board of Censorship of Motion Pictures. Established
in 1909 in response to a resolution passed by the Association of Motion Picture
Exhibitors of New York, the Board of Censorship issued rulings that were
considered mandatory for all Association members. The National Board was
established later that year under the auspices of a civic organization known as
the People's Institute. Included are letters concerning the organization of
censorship activities, deteriorating relations between the National Board and
the motion picture manufacturers, and efforts to promote the use of motion
pictures in the public schools. There are also numerous reports to the Motion
Picture Patents Co. that "pass," "condemn," or require modifications in
individual films. A sample of these reports has been selected. Among the
correspondents are John Collier, secretary of the Board of Censorship; Walter
Storey, censorship secretary of the National Board; Charles Sprague Smith,
managing director of the People's Institute; Frank L. Dyer, president of the
Motion Picture Patent Co. and vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.:
George F. Scull, secretary of the Motion Picture Patent Co. and assistant to the
vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; Carl H. Wilson, general
manager of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; and Horace G. Plimpton, manager
of negative production in the Kinetograph Department.
Approximately 50 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected consist primarily of additional reports by the censorship
boards and related correspondence.
The Board of Censorship
OF PROGRAMS OF MOTION PICTURE SHOWS ; 7
Temporary Offices: 318 East 15th Street ;
ph ods NEW YORK CITY, N, Y, | G 4
Phone 2411 Stuyvesant
Governing Board EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
REPRESENTING CIVIC BODIES ON CENSORSHIP
Rev. Geo, William Knox, Chairman John Collier, Chairman
The Public Education Association, Mrs, Joseph M, Price The Ethical-Social League, Rev. George William Knox Albert Shields Mn, Josephine Redding
The Public Schools, Gustave Straubemiller and The Society forthe Prevention of Crime, Thos. L, McClintock ge tae are ae
Miss Evangeline C, Whitney The Neighborhood Worker's Association, Joseph F. Driscoll
The People’s Institute, Charles Sprague Smith Howard M. Bradstreet Dr. OL Lamburger 7
Tho Federation of Churches, Rev. Walter Laidlaw The League for Political Education, Robert E. Ely Representing the Awsociation of Motion
The Woman's Municipal 4 Miss M. Serena Townsend Members at Large: Mr, Josephine Redding, John Collier Picture Exhibitors of New York State
N. Joseph Slicklen, Secretary N. Joseph Slicklen, wl
March 15th, 1909,
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You are doubtless familiar through published accounts
-RE “2 -D.
MAR }8 1909
FRANK Lo. “ER,
ae OF MOTION PIcTURES
Gentlemen: -
with the fact that a Board of Censorship has been established,
This letterhead gives the composition of that Board, What
authority, if any, the Board of Censorship has; how it will
operate; and how it will benefit the moving picture business;
ean be told in a few words,
The Board of Censorship was created by civic bodies
in response to a resolution passed by the Association of Motion
Picture Exhibitors of New York, There is a Governing Board
officially representing these civic bodies and the public
schools, and a Committee on Censorship appointed by the Governing
Board, ALL members of both Committees serve without pay,
but the salary of the Secretary, the rent of offices, etc., is
paid by the Association of Motion Picture Exhibitors,
The Association of Exhibitors has passed a by-law
making the verdict of the Censorship Committee mandatory on all
members of that Association, Failure to abide by the censor~
ship will entail expulsion from the Association Exhibitors,
But the censorship does not rest on the shoulders of the
Exhibitors' Association, but on the shoulders of public opinion,
It is the absolute purpose of the Censorship Board to eliminate
obscene pictures and pictures of crime—for~crime's sake from
the New York moving picture shows, and to get this result it
will use all the force of public opinion, of law, and of City
Authority. But we feel entire confidence that manufacturers
and renters, as well as all exhibitors, will make the cause
of the Censorship their own, because unless the business gained
public standing it will suffer a ruinous collapse in the near
future,
It goes without saying that the censorship will be
liberal, and it is a fact that the proportion of pictures which
are objectionable is small, But it is the occasional offensive
picture which falls into the hands of the police, arouses the
protest of vigilance societies, is advertised in the news-
Papers, and brings the whole moving picture business in dis-
repute, This picture must be caught up before it is shown on
the public screen, The way to get this result is to inspect
the pictures before they leave the hands of the manufacturers,
(014 pictures which are on the shelves of the renters will,
of mwurse, be inspected at the renters') The Censorship Board
will deal not only with motion pictures but with illustrated
songs and the vaudeville interludes seen in many shows, It
will further operate to improve the pbuilding conditions,
sanitary conditions, etc,, of the shows, and will make known
to the whole public and to the ‘lawmakers that real improvement.
‘is in progress, The Censorship Board will entirely disregard
any and all business rivalries that may exist in the moving
picture field, It hereby invites all manufacturers to co-
operate and to share the benefits of the censorship, A
White List of manufacturers, renters, and exhibitors will be
we
advertised widely, and any firm on the White List will be free
to capitalize that fact, No black list will be published as
this is illegal, But the standards adopted by the Censorship
Board in consultation with manufacturers, renters, and ex~
hibitors will be enforced in an aggressive manner throughout
New York,
It is expected that arrangements will be completed
by the end of the week of March 14th, Before that time, a
representive of the Censorship Board will visit personally
each manufacturer,
Very truly “yours,
Bex a bExtdiey
Chairman, Executive Committee
On Censorship,
P.S,
It is perhaps unnecessaryto state the advantages ,both
general and direct,that will result from the censorship, The
first advantage will be to lift the moving, picture business in
the estimation of the general public;this will mean an invreased
patronage to moving picture shows,in every neighborhood, In the
Same way the censorship will put an end to the hue and cry
against moving pictures in New York,will substitute
PSnOr AM RNS TMG regulation for wholesale persecution,will
operate to secure reasonable laws in place of the unreasonable
laws which now operate to choke the husiness,
the individual manifacturer,renter and showman does not
need to be shown how he can mnke use of the fact that his
output is approved by the Beard of Gensorship. Lnere is
a positive side to the work now being sundertaken; this lies in
the fact that the time is at hand for introducing moving pice
ture apparatus into the public schools,ane¢ the Board of
Censorship will interest itself in bringing tnis about, There
could ne no corresponding disadvantages unless the censorship
were narrow and unreasonable ,and such a censorship would not
last for n month,
%
Cea)
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Mr. @Qyer:
I have received from Mr, Plimpton six copies of report
of Board of Gensors, for pictures shown March 30th, original of
which I requested the Motion Picture Patents 6a to forward to
Mr. Plimpton. Kindly advise me as to the different people to whom
you think these copies should te given. I attach one copy for
your information. I think perhaps other copies should be given
to Messrs. Scull, Weber, McChesney and Farrell, they being the
ones who usually see and criticise the new subjects received from
our Negative Production Dept.
4/6/09, C.H
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[ENCLOSURE]
\ \ A 1M \ »% March 30, .1909,
4 : é as ee exces
His, Daight UeDenald, Oy” e
The Motion Pieture Patent QGe, S
City, —_—
Dear Mr, iUcdDonalds
cn
Following is our report on tha pictures seen tosdays
The following pictures werd aporoved outright:
fhe Life Nruam of Napoleone Hmvress Tosuphine,
Napolescn, The Man of Destiny,
A Aude Hostess,
Sohncdaer's Anti-Neoiss Crusade,
Phe Road to the Meant,
Trying $0 get Arrested,
“2. sap to the Wenderliand of Amorics,
Any Port in a Storm,
The FPatherts Mirat Malf-<Holiduyy
Unaporactuted Gentlus,
A Gup of Tom mid She,
She Master of Siaele Hock,
Peretantls Loni,
The Loot htuLodsy,
Yersangetorais, (Tho Geults Hera),
The Schoolboyta
The Kis of Judas,
Nescoy Gud in Snow,
A Oontemptibia Thert,
Clareneky and His Cizerette,
Ponto Rung Awiay With the Milk Gus,
fhe following picturves the comuittue objects to in whole
Theadere Yeurna To Be A Yough, Pathe, This picture
Vitagram
Vitagraph,
Biograyh,
Bicgraph,
Hiod¢raph,
Biograph,
Kalen,
Kalem,
Sdison,
Edison,
Sdivon.
Tabin,
Tubin,
Tubin,
Patho,
Paths,
Puthe,
Patna,
Pathe,
Pathe,
Paths,
or in purt:
iso condemned
in tote, It is orime all the way theeugh, and such humor as there is
NANPA SA TORS
grows simply cut of the crine,
The Orange Growers, This picture is somewhat debatable as a
wyole, but wa do not object as a whele but secommand two
changen:
[ENCLOSURE]
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@. Mac Donald,
Th the introduction of the picture whee tho Villain ine
sulés the gizl, Cut out the actual Physics. struggle betasesn
them, it io too grouply suggentiva, This means sacrificing abouts
Vive feet of fikm,
That past of the pieture beginning at the monent the gird
is deagged up to the house and released, Sho is then approached
by tho villain ond repilasa hin; whervupen he orders hex denegod
up the stirs inte the room at the sucond story, and follows
oa Gloaing the door and ututioning a sentined outside, The
Sugeent duneethu dumcnetrationes at faDG seems here to bu obe
deetionable and MARGE ssa, Pliminate thin stein of filmes
&beut 40 Leateeund the picture yung Hight ehead., Later the gard
de aeen amexge L'rem the upsteden room, during the excitement cP
whe attenptud reucus, ous the HUdienca may assume that sha waa
( Merely imprisoned thuru, Slaninating as we BuggEat, you xrerudar
the picture compaya tively innocucus, only comparatively, hove
ever, the imotiveepovar of the f4lm ip criminal pansion, and the
vouch handling of the whith girl by nugrogs wil. be otvensivea ta
some, But wo do not protest agadnat the film as a Whole, rox
cognizing that inptevemant mint be gradual, I shouid gay that
ws Will be pxrogransively in favor of getting away £rom thig
Kind of anbjeat handlad in this manner,
Very truly yours,
_ April 23rd, 19 09 ..
3 } Pl
Motion Picture Patents Company,
80 Fifth Ave.
New York City,’
‘
Gentlemen:
Four Pathe pictures: ware to~day submitted to the Censorship
Committee for re-consideration:. "Cartouch, "Bruised Meart," "Child ts
Love," and "Derniere Conquete,"
All of these pictures except the last are colored pictures,
and we were informed that copies, printed in France, had been ordered
priox to our censoring these pictures, and that to cut them out com-
pletely would cause considerable loss,
‘
We reconsidered the pictures, with the following results:
"Cartouche" was passed favorably in the form seen to-day.
This was not because the Committee had changed its opinion since first
seeing the picture; but the cutting had been judiciously done and had
obviously rendered the picture much less objectionable, while on the
artistic side it had always been admitted to be admirable , Yet the
Board of Censorship Committee runs the risk of criticism that it will
be hard to answer in approving this picture, and this is true of some
of those mentioned below ,
"A Child's Love" This picture has already been cut to the
extent of a fow feet, and this meets the requirements of the committee
in case in addition the picture be cut for two or three feet more,‘ at
the scene of the stage: in such manner as to make the scene briefer,
Cut at the point where the dancer turns her back to the audience and
then again faces the audience and hints at a display of legs .
"Bruised Heart" The Gomnittee had previously suggested the ~
elimination. of the scene of the attempted suicide, The picture wags
resubmitted because the Manufacturers felt that the suicide scene was
not of a sort dangerously suggestive, and because the entire bic ture
had not been condemned, yet to cut out this seene was virtually to
destroy the entire picture ,
The Committee very hesitatingly gives its assent to this
picture , It deals withefidelity and with suicide, together, and
both are themes severely ‘etiticisod by those very sections of the
public which the motion picture interests are trying to win over to
a favorable attitude, If the Committee is called to account fox pass=
ing this picture favorably it will hardly be able to defend itself
convincingly ,
Yet, as argued the theme is rather unreal and the cruder
moral. requirements are met by it. ‘“Nfhese considerations would not
alone convince the committee, but as the film is a film d ‘art, andas
copies are already ordered, tne committee passes it favorably . In
the future it 41s likely that this subject, treated in this way, will
be condemned ,
oe
"Derniere Conqguete," This pictwre had not been previously
bassed on by the Committee ag a whole, The Comnitése will pass it
favorably if the following changes are made ,
Cut out the scene at the telephone (where the woman makes an
assignation with the burglar , This applies both to the woman at the
telephone and the burghar at the other end .
Cut out the scene where the woman waves to the lover with
the lamp and cut out that portion of the scene in the woman 's parlor
where she occupies a place on the burglar ‘s lap, None of these
. Scenes, save the last are vulgar in themselves, but the theme is one
of assignation and the object of the Committoe is to BXXMXHREEX minimize
this element and to allow the sonethat humorous (and harmless ) scene of
burglary which follows (! !)
Yours yery truly,
John Collier,
Secretary, Foard of Censorship.
—_
‘
4/23 MEETINGS OF TE BOARD OF CENSORS.
Present:
Biograph: Mr . -Marvin wae Driscoll.
Vy, Hamer. i ;
Mrs Redding.
Mr . Collier.
Mw, Shiels.
Mr, O'Shea.
REPORT OF THE ROARD OF CENSORSHIP
O7 FILY SHOW! APRIL 25rd, 19 09.
PIETRO
The following pictw'es were passed favorably:
Biograph: :
One Busy Hour,’
A Baby's Shoe,
Edison: :
Tuss and Feathers, ‘
The Doctored Dinner Pail,
Pony Express: . '
A Somnambulistic Hero,
Lubin: .
Inventions of an Idiot,
Why the Hail Was Tate.
Selig:
Chinatown Slavery:
Adventures of a Keg.
Pad Lands . ‘
Nephisto and the Maiden.
Th Low, L ~es wer ed:
e following pictures were condemed t..,
A number of Pathe pictures wero submitted for co-consideration,
Report on these pictures is given on accompanying page .
The Fdiosn picture "Iunatics in Power " was not decidd
on, though twice witnessed. The Committee would like to see this pic&
ure on Monday .
tree
Lv pedeats os fe fein ee
4/27 MEREING OF THE BOARD OF cee. .
Present.
eine, ‘ hy willis. Hy, Collier.
u P, P, ais ir, Slicklen, irs. Redding .
Ny . O'Shea.
REPORT OF TIN BOARD OF CENSORSHIP
OW FILM srow! APRIL 2Vth, 19 09 ,
The Motion Picture Patents Company,
Vew York City.
‘
Gentlenm:-
The following pictures were approved in toto:
Tubin: :
Pugzle Mad, :
The House of ‘Terror,
The Falling Arrow.
Boys Will be Boys.
Kalem:
Good for Byil,
Essanay: :
A Mexican's Gratitude,
Vitagraph: :
For Her Country's Sake .
The Infernal Machine,’
The Yalse Accusation,
Dime Novel Dan .
The following pictures were condemndd in toto or passed in
an altered form, .
Edison. :
Lunatics in Power, this picture impréssed the Commit-
tee as in rather bad taste throughout, dealing as it does with the
most tragic of infirmities, But it is fercical and the plot is humor~
ous, and the Committee approves the picture except for one scene, Tihs
is the scene, "The Lunatics at Breakfast." This is the only scene tht
that is realistic , It has no relation to the plot and cannot be defen-
ded as mere farce comedy, There is a difference between ridiculing the
insane (as in the breakfast scene) and putting the same into a ridicu-
pous position by means of the insane (as in the rest of the picturs.)
Two Pathe pictures were re-submitted, having been cut:
The Gambler's Honor, - This pictiw’e was condemned MHaEH-
MUXNHE in toto at the first inspection. It represents a gambler and a
vulgar wife who takes revenge by drinking herself into utter drunkedness
in a public cafe. The pictuxe has been cut from that moment where the
wife, seated at the table next her husband 's in a cafe, has four or five
fp
absinthes put before her; that is, the process of getting drunk is not
Bhown ,. The picture remains pointless and without any good qualities,
but the worst has been eliminated, and the Committee is informed by
Pathe YTreres that some loss would bo caused by the total condemnation
of the picture, the Committee is mwitl for it to pass through.
Nobody Wants the Basket ,
This pi::eture was vreviously condenned in toto, and is again.
gegnaennged in toto, It is a thing of evil odor, moral as well as physi~
cal, throughout, and the American audiences ought to be saved from it,
Not only the vulgar treatments of the avil-smelling incident of the
basket, but the obvious character of the voman (a prostitute ) and of
the man ( a rake) renders the oicture unfit for the American public.
Yours very truly,
John Collier ,
‘
Secretary, The Board of Censorship ,
x
TIE BOARD OF CEVSORSYIP REPORTS
ee April 30th, 1909.
The Motion Picture Patents Company,
‘City.
Gentleman ‘
Following is report on pictwres seen at your office to-day:
Passed with approval:
Vitagraph: : ( ; )
yaking, et seq. (Tobacco Dream
Tete eals. ; :
“Solomon's Judgment. :
Jephita's Daughter, Note:-It is asked that this film be
held in suspense for a day pending further formal notice and its treat=
nent is unimpeachable, but discussion was raised as to the Biblical ac~
curacy of the story as here presented, It seems that this is a deli-~
cate point with the Oxthodot Jews. (The question involves the finol of
the picture=the sacrifice .
Edison: :
The Child's Prayer.
The Curfew Bell,
The Sandman :
‘Sieze A Pin(He sees a Pin}
Lubin:
The Old Hall Clock.
Biograph: ;
Elopement of Auntie.
The Jilt. -: :
Resurrection,
Kleine: (Urban-Eclipse.) -
The Peddlar's Reward,
Porgotten.
Pathe: :
Pierrot Fuddler,
‘Petits Pifferoirs, (Little Street Singers )
Kalem: ‘
Te Girl Spy.
Trapped.
Tt is asked that the following picture be re-submitted to the Committee
on Monday, May 3, :
Kalen: BACK FROM THE GRAVE, ‘
The Edison picture, "Lunatics in Power" was witnessed again.
The picture had been cut at the wrong place, and the part struck out was
perfectly acceptable to the Conmittee, whihe the breakfast scene of the
insane, to which the Committee had raised objections, had been left in.
The Committee discussed this picture at length, as it raised
certain test questions , It was finally agreed that the attempt to ap=
prove the picture ag a whole after the single scene above alluded to had
been struck out, was not reasonable; the breakfast scene of the lunatica
was little if any worse or in worse taste than the rest of the picture .°:
Either the pictwre should be condemned as a whole or accepted as a whole
Being in doubt as to the principles involved in this question,
the Committee decided to pass the entire picture, in its original form,
favorably, They ask, however, that at the forthcoming meeting of the
Governing Board, the picture be shown in order that it may be discussed
and the Censorship Committee be instructed as to what methods of crit-
icism to apply in the future to similar pictures ,
Shest #2 THE BOARD OF CENSORSHIP REPORT, April 30th, '09
g Therefore: The picture is approved; but the Committee does
not vegard itself ag thereby establishing a presedent, or wish so to be
understood,
Further note:- ;
The Committee desires to congratulate the several manu
facturers on the excellent average of the pictwrea submitted to-day .
Special oomnent along this line ought to be passed as to the pictures of:
each of the Manufacturers seen ; Esnecially HXtLGSanTEK notable, as
it seemed, was the "Ressurection " of the Biograph Company, the
Biblical pictures (treated in an adaquate and dignified manner ) of tive
Vitagraph Company, the "Old Jfall Glock # of TJatbin, Hdigon 's
"Child 's Prayer," and others ,
We vould informally suggest the "Forgotten "of Kleine be
given if possibbb the sub-title of "Enoch Arden, " whose story 1t tells
in a beautiful manner ,
Yours truly,
John Collier,
‘
Secretary, Board of Censorship .»
The Board of Censorship
OF PROGRAMS OF MOTION PICTURE SHOWS
96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. {5th Street
NEW YORK CITY, N, Y.
Phone 3843 Chelsea
Governing Board EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
REPRESENTING CIVIC BODIES ON CENSORSHIP
Rev. Geo. William Knox, Chairman John Collier, Chairman
The City Vigilance League, Mathew Battie The Public Education Association, Mrs. Joseph M, Price Mn, Josephine Redding Albert Shiels
The Exhical-Social League, Rev. George William Knox The Public Schools, Gustave Straubenmiller and —_—__
The Federation of Churches, Rev. Walter Laidlaw Miss Evangeline E, Whitney Joseph’ F. Driscoll
The League for Political Education, Robert E. Ely The Society forthe Prevention of Crime, Thos, L. McClintock Oscar I, Lamberger
The Neighborhood Worker's Association, The Woman's Municipal League, Miss M. Serena Townsend Representing the Association of Motion
Howard M. Bradstreet. Members at Large: Picture Exhibitors of New York State
The People’s Institute, Charles Sprague Smith Mn, Josephine Redding, John Collier, Albert Shiels —_-———_—_
N, Joseph Slicklen, Secretary Thos. L. McClintock, Treasurer N, Joseph Slicklen, Secretary.
ADDRESS ALL COMMUNICATIONS TO THE SECRETARY
May 6,1909,
Mr, Frank W. Dyer,
President ,The Motion Pictures Patents Cosy
City. E
Dear Mr. Dyer?
As I mentioned to you the other day,a movement in Philadelphia
has resulted in the quiet organization of all the public bodies in that
City with the original object of establishing a local censorship of moving
pictures. I went to Philadelphia some days ago and pointed out the
defects of their plan;urged that they become an auxiliary to a national
censorshipj;and induced them to stand still and await develonments,
Today I have received formal notification from the Phtladelphia
committee that they approve the plan as I outlined it, The Chairman of
the committee has asked me for a full statement of the reasons why only
a national censorship can get results and why the business interests will
cooperate with a national censorship,
I entlose my reply to this request (copy.) This is confiden=
tial for the present, The letter is somewhat lengthy but I should
appreciate your reading it carefully because the matter ig of first im-~
poetmion, |
If the way seems clear we ought to go ahead at ohte.
Very truly yoursy
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foe Coes, ayen
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mel Conse akg
May 6,T909,
“y, Ro-vert =, Adams,
the ae) Branch eines:
Pear Mr, Adeanss
Your lettor came this morning;I om glad that the loric ov the
sljuction strijes you in Philadelphia os it strikes as in Now York,
Si ce I saw you on seburde ȴY last, there nave been sienivicent
developments in the direction of a national censorship of pictures, ‘The
Inter ational Projecting and Producliwy; Compony,ho are the most important
factor in the "Independent" cause,have expressed their thoroughreoing
interest in the plon,their désire to submit all thoir output for the ene
tire country,and their willingne:s to contribute to the iinaacial
support of a national movement. No contributions can however be accept-
ed from any manufacturer until all asrse to contributo,and to contribute
in an unconditional mamor;vor the censorship must be kept wholly tree
from obligations,
To one Looking at the situation Tor the first time,it may
seom strange that the "trade" has so cordially submitted to cens sorship,
A word of oxplanation may be of volue,.
The moving picture is a deliberate and serious form of the
theatre and is capable of becoming popular with oll classes, rich. end peor,
To r aline its Muli commorcial possibilitics,it mst occupy a responsible
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2 Mr, Adams,
position tow rd the publioasmust be senbltive to whatever is most vnivere
gal end pormanent in public taste, ifillions are ‘elne invested in the
business,and being no longer a get-rich-auick proposition but a pusiness
Which must secure its position for future years,the moving picture trade
has awake:ed to tho vorce of public opinion,
The conditio:;: are rather peculiar, Sundsnentally,it must
be remembered tht moving pictures are produced in a wholesale manner,
no% only vor all America but for the vhole world, they are produced
sere and dn varioun foreign countries,so tht of necessity the producer
, io far-romoved from his public, Yet in a common-sensed way ,he
desires to be as closely in touch with his public as he eanjand this
peculiarly in view of the sierce comctition thet re in the
moving picture ficld} competition between producing m -ufacturmag
8ut the moving picture output has been sensational in the
past;probably not more sensational than th: regular theatre,but the sen=
Sationvulism has heen more abrupt and evident and the public is rosigned
to the regular theatre, Therefore public opinion has taken on
an antagonistic bias,in part justified, toward moving pictures, The
dingy local conditions under which theo pictures have been generally
shows has contributed to this prejudice, - In addition a
peculiar fact must be taken into accout: ‘tho regular theatres,
controlling advertising and therefore publiclty,have come to Look on
tee movine picture show as their cremy,oecause its competition has
hurt them seriously, The same is sald to be true is a measure with
the saloon interests, Albogether,the justifiable public prajudice,
Plus special and secret interests vhich are inimical to the moving :
picture,hase resulted in a loss of great sums to the bgginess, and
in restrictive laws and in graft of all kinds, How is all this to ba
_ overcome? . t
First and last, be a censorship, And if the trade does not
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Se Mr, Adams,
jend a hand,censordhip will come anyhow, for the public ig determined to
regulate the showsj;and the latter tind of censorship will be destructive
rather then constructive and will vary in its standards with each locale
ity, and will become an endless nuisance to the manufacturers of pdobhugs,
Tucidentally,it will not suxtico to protect the public, for
tyvo reasons: the supply of pictures is national, they nass from pluce
to place, they orrive today and are exhibited in. twenty theatres tomorrow,
“ven ccaseless vigilanee h a local censorship »oard will not suntice
to keep the crude or evil picture out, And the kind of haphasara
censprship which is alone possible locallyywill <all to exert the
reaction on the output o# pictures--the stinulus toward better and better
pictures--shich is after alll the most veluable part ov a successful cone
sorship.s ,
Now compare this with the ow York ecnsorship,not. merely as
planned but as already operating, This Board works in close touch
with the Anerican namfacturers ane the agents of the Furopean
concer.:3, It 1s wholly indope dent of commercial dnfluence, yet
maintedins cordial relations with tha controlling interests of tne
picture business, As a result,the things that are once pointed out
as objectionable do not renopearj;and the temptd ton which is ever-nrosent
with the producer of moving pictures,to fall back on sensationalism for
his e'fects,is counteracted. In seven weeks,the time for which the
New York censorship has been oporating,there has been an improvement in
tone and a heightening of artistic qualities in American-made pictures
which is the subject of comment everywhere,
To sum up: this 1s the present situation: The Motion
Pictures Pat ents Cos,vwhich furnishes about 60 per cent of the shows in
fémerica,is already applying nationally the verdicts of the New York
board, The most important faction of tha Independents will Aahortiy do
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4, Mr. Adams.
the same, Ths minor Tndependents will o@ at onee “orced in Bolf-pronervas
tion to make the local censorship national, This is in one way a trium=
phant resultjin another way it is merely the logicnl result of the applie
cation of a iusine:s principle to the problem of censorship.
Heanvhile,ythe Censorship Board has gane ahead with the
orvonisation o f th a ghee OL Consmraiag ~hich can only be local, as it
deals with locol conditions: the censorphin of vaudeville cto, in the
Frograms O° Lhe shows,the re;ulation of the physical conditions of th-
placegsyo: the general conduct of tha places, We have no spe cified
legal rights in this cirection,but we have public opinion which is more
errectunl;ve can put an end to virtually onything that is really object=
lonable in any moving picture show, This power 1s enhanced by the fact
that the censership originated from tho initiative of the local Associas
tion of exhibitors, who still provide tha <inaneial support of the
entire work;they are prepared to expel from membership in their
organization anyone who resists the cens@ ship at any point,
Therefore: It appears to us that the censorship of
motion picture shows mut be worked out as follows: a Btional Board
Which concerns itself solely with tational Consorship; Local boards,
vhich are represented on the national board and which tako care of |
conditions peculiarly local ond enforce locally the ‘indings of the
national board, Thus there would bo in New York (the strategical
point) the Nd ional Board and a local auxiliary of this, The local
auxiliary will gradually and naturally take on varied functions ,end be
come a committee for the regulation of omusemouts in general,
Sinally,for one or two details: . Tho pr sent composition of
the Soard of ‘ensorship avpears on this letter-head, Philadelphia,
in organizing, would presumably choose as its representative one of the
mombers of the Governing 5 aard of Executive Committce,and this aenber
would ipse facto become a member of the censor thg committee which grapples
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with the actual probhim of consorship. If Philadelphia( or
any other City) preferred ao ite representative someone not now on the
Board of Censorship, such representative could he place? on the Board, It
would ohnviously be better that all Tocal Board should agree on the same
representdé ive;such a person for instance as Dr, Devine of the C.0.5e,
Mr, Eagar Winthrope,Prosident of the soard of Héucation,Pavl cellog,
editor of tho "Survey," or someone already on the Covoerning Soarde
’ C
I believe this covers the main péahts of inquiry . I enclose
several copies of the Folder of the Censorship Board,which may be used
to adventage,
Very truly yours,
poen~ G Lhrar
Sccretary,Board of Censorshipe
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Mr, John Coliiér, Secretary; :
Board of Consors fy 4
96 Fsth-hve., New York.
My dear Lf. Collier: ;
I thank you for yours of the 6th inst., en-
closing copy of your Letter to Mr, Adams, which I have read with
a great deal of interest.
Ide not think there can be any question but that a single
well organized Board of Censors is far better than a great nee
of small irresponsible Hoards acattered throughout the country.
and subject to Local prejudices and influences. It would be
GirflouLi to imasine the effect on the business if our films were
to be subjected to the censorship of committees in all of the
cities in which they are exhibited, Amore perfect scheme for
the crippling of the industry could hardly be devised. There-
fore, your proposition of a single National Censorship Board
strikes me as being the only solution of the problem , admitting
there must be a censorship, which TI think everyone having the best
interests of the business at heart must admit. Of course, the
greatest care must be exercised in the seleation of the Board, not
to have it too uni;ibldy, and to have its motives and personnel abso-
ilutely beyond the possibility of a suspicion, The people must
have for.it the same respect and confidence that they have for the
courts, and when the Censorship Board appreciates its responsibil-
ities I have no doubt ag.che, Lis .gasbireofainness. We must all
forest 320.
John Collier. ; (2) 5/7/09.
know that it would be humanly impossible for the censors not to
make mistakes, but we must always feel, as we naw feel, that they
are honest mistakes. No doubt many manufacturers whoes films
are criticised may think that particular decisions affe eting them
should not have been made, yet they will finally come to accept
them in the same spirit that they now accept adverse decisions
of our courts, ,
Personally I wish you success along the lines you have
thought out ., and I will be very clad whenever posslble to give
you any assistance in my power.
Yours very truly,
FLD/TWY President,
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UVLIOMYT BHOMUOEHVbH COWDYMA 7]
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THOMAS A EDISON, FRANK L.DYER,
VICEDHLS(DANT & Gbhe
C.H. WILSON, A.WEST
PACSIOCHT
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RAL COUNSER GEE HAL Pan aonse SECALTARY A THEASUNER
EDISON MANUFACTURING EQ.
MAIN OFFICE AND FACTORY
ORANGE,N.J.
jae EDISON PROJECTING KINETOSCOPES AND FILMS.
a> O, Exinonn
IN REPLYING ADDRESS THE COMPANY NOT
THE INDIVIOUAL AND MENTION THESE INITIALS,
10 FirtH Avenue, New Yorn.
CABLE ADDRESS
304 WaBash AvVENUE,CHICAGO.
“KURILIAN, NEW YORK’
avoness vounncev1o “Ll Rast Alst Street
eosaine setedauarceus AiG Pgh ee Mei Yorke May 28th, 1909.
Mr. Frank L. Dyer, Vice~Pres.
/ RECEIVED. ¥:
MAY 24 1909
FRANK L. DY'R.
ena
Edison Manufacturing Co.,
Orange, N. d.
Dear Sir:-
I enclose a letter just received.from Mr.
Collier of The Board of Censorship, in which I
thought you would be interested.
Dawley was very mich chagrined when I told
him about the sign "Keep Off The Grass." Hovever,
I find that no prints have yet been made beyond the
first one of this picture, and I have arranged to have
the sign altered in the negative so that it will not
show. It is curious that no one noticed this when we
saw the picture in Orange.
Yours very truly,
Edison Manufacturing Co.,
Kinetograph Dept,
Musil a a
va ; vical ; if; Lr
Manager “Negative Production.
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“ The Board of Censorship
OF PROGRAMS OF MOTION PICTURE SHOWS
. 96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street
NEW YORK CITY, N. Y.
Phone 3843 Chelsea
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Governing Woard EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
REPRESENTING CIVIC BODIES ON CENSORSHIP
‘ Rey. Gea’ William Knox, Chairman hn Collier, Chai
The City Vigilance League, Mathew Battie The Public Education Association, Mrs, Joseph M, Price Mn. eects Redding » Albeit Shiels
The Ethical-Social League, Rev. George William Knox The Public Schools, Gustave Straubenmiiller and _—
The Federation of Churches, Rev. Walter Laidlaw Miss Evangeline E. Whitney Joseph F. Driscoll
The League for Political Education, Robert E, Ely The Society forthe Prevention of Crime, Thos. L. McClintock Oscar I, Lamberger
The Neighborhood Worker's Association, The Woman's Municipal League, Miss M. Serena Townsend Representing the Association of Motion
aie Howard M, Bradstreet Members at Large : Picture Exhibitors of New York State
The People’s Institute, Charles Sprague Smith Mn. Josephine Redding, John Collier, Albert Shiels —
N. Joseph Slicklen, Secretary Thos. L. McClintock, Treasurer N. Joseph Slicklen, Secretary,
ADDRESS ALL COMMUNICATIONS TO THE SECRETARY BR[f st ct aa aii Y,
” . if . +. ‘
May 26,1909, EC 7 TI
Mr, Plimpton, ; MAY 28 -3uS
The Edison Co.,City.
BINETO DUP
Dear Mr. Plimpton: ANS
T must congratulate you on The zegend of stévvine Keeps" There
isn't any doubt that this picture will be,perhaps not so sensationally
popular as many pictures, hut more genuinely interesting than any save
a few, It is the kind of picture which will bring the people
back,
But congratulations are easy. I had to laugh at one point.
There,on the medieval lawn,with knights and ladies,minstrels and harpsy
@ prominent "Keep Off The Grass!" sign. Coulan't this be
elimainat ed?
Very truly yours,
PS. Another sugges ion which I hesitate to make ,but I believe you
will welcome it: The conditions under which pictures are shown
at the Patents Co. are wellenigh ideal,yet I had to get right under the
screen to obtain a satisfactory view of the people's countenances, They
are too small on the screen to be personalities. You'll note
ice,with an ensemble scene of French or Italian makeythat there may be
a crowd of people on the stageyyet a few, the central characters,are in the
foreground and are satisfactorily visible; you can watch their facial
RE ee Se a IOS : a ~ - : Reems
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pie hee oe of the crowd is to become the focus of attention,
play.
he too comes forward,
This is true even of the regular stage; and has
to be doubly true in picture pantomime,vhere the eye has to do the ear's
‘
work too,
fertile,
SO pee a
But you have touched on the kind of vein which ought to be
very truly yours, 4
ns W0,70F - . i
“THE, EXHIBITOR'S cuIDE é
“LUNATICS. IN POWER?” (C). Released by
Edison, May 12 (one reel),
The board of censors, it seems, has passed this |
‘picture, the public. will surely ‘reject it. I-do-not
want to use so strong a, word as disgusting, but |
no other will do justice to the situation. To ridicule
in moving pictures those unfortunates ‘who have |
lost their reason, is nothing creditable nor will-a:
normal-minded person ever see any fun in such pro- F
ceedings. To exploit the misfortunes of our fellows .
for any purpose whatever is a thing not to be
tolerated. No exhibitor who has any regard for the |
taste or intelligence of his audience will allow such
a reel to be put through his machine, The photog-
raphy for the most part is decidedly bad.
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AUTOMATIC A397 EXCLUSIVE IMPORTER OF
CENTRAL U8D8 Gaumony & Unban-Ecuipsn Finnin
7 : ’ For UNiren Staten
GEORGE KLEINE
IMPORTER OF
MOTION PICTURES
NEW YORK OFFICE CHICAGO Orrick
GGO2 SIXTH AVE. . G2 STATE Si.
Fern C2 aN Reta Ee
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Orange, MN. J.
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' RECEIVED.
JUN 4 1909
FRANK L. DYER,
Ly deur Mr. Dyer:
When I was in Hew’ York recently ir. Collier
of the Board of Censorship asked me to work up a series of
prograus for him to be used in conection with a public
School movement next Fall. His plan was to have our rental
office at New York rent these films to such theatres as the
educational interests might engege for this purpose, inviting
school children to attend,
Such programs should be as comprehensive as
possible, and American manufacturers should be well repre-
sented, I intend to make up to begin about ten programs of
four to six reels each, making a broad application of the
term "Educational", so as to include industrials, scenic,
eeograrhical, ete. &
~
a Would you kindly sond,me a list of such
titles as you ean furnish which would*come under this
nie i : heading, referring either to filws in, Stock or to available
Gy eee negatives?
’ Ido not sce eny material profit in this
proposition for ourselves, as our rental would have to buy
these fils, and would find no other use for them, but I
believe that the plan is important, because of its tendency
tio elevate the business, and to interest a number of people
who may be at present indifferent or opposed to moving
pictures,
Your co-oreration will be very welcome.
Very trfey yours
CE /Mr. ; ae
Vorm $19
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY.
im = Meer”
. June 15, 1909.
' lir, George Kleine,
. 52 State St.,
Chicas, TLl.
“My dear Nr. Meine:
Your favor of the lat inst. was duly received,
and I give you the following List of available negatives with announces
ments from which satisfactory prints for your purpose could be seoured:
5739 Bnigrants Landing, Bllis Island 140' Geographical
5565 Prize Geese, Newman's Poultry Yarm 60! Agrioultural
5350 Ducks Bathing, Alientown Duck Varm “503 n
6148 Blowlng Bottles 200* Industrial
6271 Shearing Sheep, Humula Farm . 95! Acricultural
6274 Hauling Sugar Gane, Kohola Plant, H.I. - 125¢t "
6281 Scenes on Sugur Plantation, H. T. 570! 7
6302 Trip Trhough Yellowstone Park,U.S.A. 736' Geographical
6303 American Talis fr Goat Island, Niagara 55! "
6304 Horseshoe Valls fr American Side 60h
6306 Horseshoe Falls fr Canadian Side 40' "
6307 American Palis fr Canadian Side viel tt
6309 Whirlpool Rapids, Niegora Vallis 60? a
6310 Cave of the Winds u * 1e5t u
6318 Pano. of Culebra Cut ‘ 135! i
6322 Old Market Place, Panama 120! "
6353 Midnight Ride of Paul Revere 915! Historical
(6358 The Blue and the Grey, or Days of *61 O85‘ Military
6362 Pioneers Crossing the Plains in '49 990! Historical :
6364 Boston Tea Party, The a 1000° "
6372. Aeroplane Plights of Henry Farman . B00! Scientific
6380 Pooahontas 1050! Historical
6397 Colonial Virginia 9765! "
6404 Cocoa Industry, Trinidad, B.W.I. 880! Industrial
6470 Buying Manhattan ' 360! Historical
6463 Brothers in Arms — O76! Wilitary
VU Unfortmately, we ‘have no positives of these prints in stock,
Form $39
' oe EDISON MANUEARE RING COMPANY.
George Kl>ine. By
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6/15/09.
but since your object would no doubt go a long way towards popularizing
moving pictures, I will be very glad to join with the other manufactur-
ers in any proposition they might think should be made to you regarding
this particular matter. :
Yours very truly, . i.
LD /IW Vice-President.
ee Sas : oe ; ; whaetead 2 ees
REOriWeD.
JUN 151909
FRANK L. DYER, |
June 15, 1909.
Mr. F. L. Dyer & Files:-
Have gone over with Mr. Porter the recent list of Educa-
tional films which I submitted to you, and the following are those
that Mr. Porter thinks are suitable forthe purpose and all of which
have announcements:
#5739 migrants Landing, Ellis Island 140' Geographical
5365 Prize Geese,Newman's Poultry Farm 60' Agricultural
5380 Ducks Bathing,Allentown Duck Farm 50! "
6148 Blowing Bottles 100' Industrial
6271 Shearing Sheep, Humula Farm 95' Agricultural
6274 Hauling Sugar Cane,Kohola Plant. ,H.I. 125! "
6281 Scenes on Sugar Plantation, H.I- 370! eet :
6302 Trip thro Yellowstone Park, U.S.A. 7355' Geographical
6303 American Falls fr Goat Isid,Niagara 55t Wy
6304 Horseshoe Falls fr American Side - 60! "
6306 u " fr Canadian uw 40! u
6307 American " fr ui " 70! rate
- 6309 Whirlpool Rapids, Niagara Falls 60! Mt
6310 Cave of the Winds, iy a 185! at
6318 Pano. of Culebro Cut 135! My
6322 Old Market Place, Panama 120° y
6355 Midnight Ride of Paul Revere 915 Historical
6358 Blue & The Grey, or Days of '61 1085' Military
6362 Pioneers Crossing the Plains in '49 990! ‘Historical
6364 Boston Tea Party, The 1000! u
6372 Aeroplane Flights of Henry Farman 200' Scientific
6380 Pocahontas - 1050' Historical |
6397 Colonial Virginia 975! ¥
6404 Cocoa Industry, Trinidad, B.W.I. 880' Industrial
6470 Buying Manhattan 360' Historical
6463 Brothers in Arms 975' Nilitary
- Regarding subject #6148, "BLOWING BOTTLES", it is possible
we could get something better than this in the way of a special nega- -
tive which we supplied for the Toledo Glass Co. some three years
ago, showing the bottle blowing industry. It is quite evident that
they did not make much use of this subject and we have the negative
on hand at the factory, and if you think well of the idea, we could
open up negotiations for obtaining the right to use this negative.
Referring to the Niagara Falls films, we have very few
that are in good condition as you will note from the above list.
Mr. Porter suggests that aman could be sent up to Niagara Falls
district and take a number of short film subjects illustrating this
section, and the entire set could be made in about one. week;. and he
also thinks that passes could be obtained from The New York Central
Railroad, which would also materially reduce the expenses. we
ee . Yours very. truly, a
Fea 7 ie 5 " KINBTOGRAPH DEPARTMENT, oe ae
yy ete “f a a : ae We - oo
term 008 Oleg
f Ay swore OF THE BOARD OF CENSORSHIP
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ae ON FILM sHoval TUNE 26th; 1909. [Rec ea
Paw SH .
Aye JUN 24 1909
Motion Pi fines Patents Company, FRANK i. OveR,
. City. rem.
Gentlemen: =
Pictures were seen at your office today with the following re-
sults:
The following were approved:
Biograph: : Edison:
The Country Doctor. : Casey's Jumping toothache.’
Caught by the Coupon Craze.
descaling Mulligan's Waterloo,
Mr. Simpson's dhieust ions Egyptian Mystery.
Winning a Princess. The Missionary aid the Maid.
Gaumont:
No Appetite for inners
Saved from the Flames.
The following were approved without Sindee:
Pathe:
A Trip to Jupiter.
The Man with the Dolls.
Buffalo Racing at Maderia.
The Vendetta. .
Napoleon--three reels.
Deux Bons Anis.
Roman de Jeune Fille Pauvres
Matche Enrage.
Sanatorium pour Maigrir.
The following Pathe pictures seen yesterday for the first time,
are condemned in part;
Drame des Charmettes. This picture is gruesome+-shocking as a’
whole. The Committee will approve it if the following changes are made;
Cut out HEMKMX entire scene of actual poisoning (allow the
woman to issue from the house and receive the phison from the hypnotist —
and to re-enter the house; eliminate from this point until after the ¢
dead body is removed from the room, and after the scene where the heros
tist attempts to make love to the woman over her husband's body. ‘This '
virtually means cut out from entry of woman to house with poison, to
courtehouse scene. Cut out the suicide at the end of the picture.
Kindly reesubmit picture. :
M Le Maire est a la Campaigne. The Committee suggests that in
the scene in the Mayor's office, where the many couples are together,
about two feet be eliminated: at that point where the gendarme kisses
one of the brides. :
Visit to Riskra. Kindly reesubmit this picture. The hesitancy
of the Committee has relation to the dance at _the end of this picture,
put verdict is reserved. ;
In addition to the pictures named above seen for the first time,
three Pathe pictures were shown for reconsideration. These pictures
hewe been condemned in whole or in part some weeks ago, but the Committee
was asked to make eR aL wanene possible in a of the fact that many
PEAnte:
(2)
had actually been imported to this country.
After reeconsideration the Committee reports as follows:
; Pompey's Dream. One scene had been condemned: The scene in
Heaven of St. Peter and the wine cellar. This scene the Committee had
felt might be taken as blasphemous by parts of the public, but when
seen yesterday it appeared to be carried along by the fareical spirit
of the whole picture and to be inoffensive, The picture is anprov ed in
toto.
Getting even with Everybody, The Comittee suggests that the
following changes be made and the picture be re=submitted for further -
consideration. When servantewoman leads her lover out of parlor toward
her bedroom, to convey that the bedroom is simply another adjacant.room,
Strike out the progress of the husband in pajamas, up the
statts; his attitude at the outside of the servants door: allprior to
his entrance to the servants room.
It is likely that the picture, in this form, will be passede«
with some regret, but the Committee desires to see it again.
Caught in His Own Trap. This picture is difficult to treat be-
cause the central incident has a setting of a kinddesigned to suggest
only one thing, and this not presehtable to the audience.
Kindly note the following change in the picture. Eliminate en=
tirely the entzance of the wife and her paramour to the bedroom, and
their scene in the bedroom. It would be better further to eliminate like+
wise the scene imnedtately preceeding this, when the wife discovers her
husband as he lays the trap.
Kindly submit this picture again after changes have been made.
Very truly yours, -
JOHN COLLIER,
Secretary.
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PRECLIVED, Y
JUN 241909
FRANK L. DYER,
June 24,1909,
Mr. Dyer:«
The attached manuscript from Nr. Bradlet is an
attack on the present Censorship Board, especially in any at-
tempt to make it a national one. I believe his views are
entirely erroneous and biased by his own desire to get into
the game. Certainly he badly confuses the idea of censoring
films from a moral standpoint and criticising them from a
standpoint of art or from a standpoint of what the public
in general desires.
Gertainly the suggestion that oll film should be
submitted for a general criticism to such of the Censor-
ship Board that he Proposes, in which the Independent and
Licensed Manufacturers should sit together in judgment on
each other's films, is visious and unworkable. I would sug-
gest that he be advised that we do not approve of his views
but I do not believe it will do any good to go into any
extended discussion of the matter with him, and certainly
no harm can be done if he elects to publish the manuscript,
since I think it carries its own condemnation.
GF. 8,
GFS/ARK . R) ay
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SO. f2— Censors he yo
New York, June 21st. 1909,
pu: AM, Bay Mids
159 36th SIN. y 7)
Mr. Frank L, Dyer,
Orange, N. a.
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© JUN 221909
FRANK a ibe
Dear Sir:-
Please find enclosed a manuscript which T have prepared in an
attempt to block the game of Mr. Collier of the N, Y, Board of Censor«
ship, of forming a National Board,
I sincerly believe in a National Board but not under the present
hanagsuent of the Ne. Y. Poard of Censorship,
Please return me the Manuscript at your earliest convenience and
let me know if you approve my views and in this case, if you would ene
courage me to go ahead with the work,
If you think advisable to have the manuscript sent to the Motion
Picture Patents Co. you can do so.
Very, respectfully,
Pt, Cbeadlle p-
P.S. In this manuscript you will find that I advise the Board of Cen~
Sorship to also point to the manufacturers such errors as I have point-
ed in soe of your productions, If at any time you should decide to
have an inspector to examine your pictures, I would like to have the
work,
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pie. Me. Oradlet
50 W. 36th ST. MY.
£Q EHR MANUFAGZURERS
Gentlenen st
In ny report of 9 pages, on the N.Y,Board of Censorship, I
show: '
Lie--That the too busy namufacturers heve no time to ingpect their pro» |
ductions or to go to moving picture shows, i
2te--That the producers are so wrapped in their work, that they do not
8ee their own blunders, no more than a mother cannet sec the diffomities
inwher new born, to her it is the best,
Stee=That the mamifacturers as well us the trade papers, lose sight of
the question: "Who is giving the nickels?! Not the rich classes, we
have no moving picture shows on the fashionable avemies for the rich,
4t~——They lose sight that if we heave to depend on the working classes
for the nickels, said working classes do not know enough of Europe or of
old Roman History or of ancient authors, to enjoy and understand the BO
culled tHihgh Art Films',
5:-—=Qur working classes want somo pood subjects, some good acting but
they want something thet they can understand, something that can hold
them in suspense from beginning to end, something that can either make
them laugh or cry, :
6t---Our trade papers do not consider these points and although knowing
that most of the spectators yawn on their seats at such SHigh Art Films!
as the Duke of Guise, they praise the manufacturers for the sake of the
dollurs they can get in advertisements, ‘the public and the exhibitors
are entirely shadowed by the $ $ $ sign in advertisements,
TiwewIf the mamfacturers want to devote their energies to tHigh Art
Films! let them provide special houses feb the rich folks, whe can ap=
preciate the high art and who understand the historic subjetts, Berson
ally I enjoy such "High Art Films? put I am not selfish, I think of
the other ‘ellows,
BreueIt would be the duty of the trade papers to guide the manufacturers
and not to mislead them, in constantly praising (for the sake of an adv)
Highly Artistic productions, not understood by these giving the nickels,
9t-—=-If the trade papers are in business to make money, the manufacturers.
renters and exhibitors ure not in business for mere love, they want to
lmow what the public wants, they do not want to bemiled by a lot-of:
interested compliments, 7
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:10---The trade papers are short sighted. If they would frankly advise
the mamifacturers and take the interests of the exhibitors, they would
give & new boom to the business, while this policy of "High Art Films?
will mean a complete ruin, Folks who can enjoy and understand high art
work, do not patronize the moving picture shows and these tho patronize
our Sf and 10¢ shows are not posted enough to understand the work,
Otte Pet etre)
As I am on the side of the Licensed Manufacturers, I give you the
first option on the following plans but if you refuse me your support,
then I will have to see the independent side, Let us bear in mind that
the good work will win, The public wants good clean pictures, acted and
staged with great care but pictures that they can understand, as the
moment they cannot follow the plot, they lose 211 interest,
iY PLANS t=
If each Licensed Mamifacturer, under the Motion Picture Patents Co,
pays: me a-sulary of $20 per month, which would be $180 for the 9 licens.
ead manafscturers per month (salary paid by the H.P.P,.Go) I will agree to:
Liana will devote my time to the intsrests of sald manufacturers,
Byee~Each day I will visit different shows,,to study the audiences and
sec ull the new Licensed films os they are released,
Btaumtl will write my criticisms as follows:
On¢d the subject, the acting, staging, etc. impression on public,
Each criticism on a special sheet. 4 duplicates One to go to the
M.P.P.Co. 48 @ record---O0na to fo & the mamfacturers of the film as a
record---0ne to go to the producore of the film to show them their ers
rors--~-Qne to go to me as my porsonal record,
Suid criticisms not for publication,
Atwe=I will agree to spend part of ny time on the road, Bo as to study
the wants of the public of other States, These trips at my own expense
(except if I am culled on a special long trip by a manufacturer)
I do not claim to be™the only one" but I have the good will, the
ambition to see success, the desire to save and elevate the Industry. By
my different examples, I show that I criticize without passion but with —
some common sense and some logic. Evidentiy on the orad I will see some
independent films and if they deserve any mention, I will send a report
to the M.P.P.Co.
Respectfully,
#159 West 36th. Street, New York. Gino. My Bradlet,
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Gar) dye ge
| Such oceacions as Lincoln's Hirthday, Yushinutan 's irthday,
Deck. fon Duy, Flag Day, 4th, of July, etc. the Olurch Vorztors and
Schoo. Soard Members, caspasing our New Yorke Hoard of Gansorthip, nee
tong ani petriotic sposchss, 1a which they never foil to show the treat
nflnence that mothers had on the lives of our graut nen, who meade of
this Repablie one of the preeteat nations,
Te is true that #21 tho rieny whe as Woshington, Lincoln, Garfield,
Le Kinley, ate. loved and rernectod their puranta, ara tho nen who ro
epect theiy fauilies, their omployers, ¢helr follow citligens, their
emustrey garni tasir Flag, wen who hove the sense of daty, wen of road
patioticn.
On another hound, the men who do not raspsct their parents, cannot
vecract thely fiasllias, lose thelr employers end fellow citizens and
heya no use for thoir flap, except to use is eo an aivertising sien, You
fo nos ting the dseds of these men recorded in the books of our National
History, s¢ cach desds aro the ones filling our prisons,
wha ooubers of our Jew Yor Board of Censorship, sesin to have a
double yolicy, hoy paso and socapt moving pletures seaching the reverse
of what they ara prouching in their patriotic speeches, end this under
the creuse of Biron moral lesoong, eet
One of the ueeepted filac, shows uc en umneturel von, The old man: :
tarns Rie property, including « suv will, over to 6 son, Vhis ron teulcen -
Churge of the estate and beeaase the futher ie net willing to pive.up
evary Ceziby the uncatural cen baaty hin, throws hin on the floor and. 007 oe
robi hin. When the old father ie deprivad of his saw nitl, of his estute,
of his homes, of his sevings, ete, the son enlis in the poorheuse wuron,
to take the old man sway,
YT fad to sec wuy strong moral Lesson in this 112m tut I see eo very
devlorable leseen und if our youns genoration 1s taught to i121 trent ond
Yob their purents, Washington, Lincoln, drant, Garfield, ote. will huve
neo cuccessors to continue the National tistory of this Glorious Repablic,
Tt is tine thet or i. Y. Board of Oonsership chonld be ealled down
on u mnuabay of filus, whith should have not parsed the Boards
I? you are interested dn a movenont to establich eo itveral, fair
fdnded and honest Board, to take the interests of the manufacturer and
of the exhivitor as well as of the yabiie, I will he pleased te call on
you, if you cun give mé un interview and shey. you several papers on the
mestion.
fan inforsied thut the present 4. ¥, Bourd of Censorship is trying
to infuse soue new blood in theiy organization, by making it wo National
Bourd. Let be Locul, National, International, no Bourd can sucesed 42
the ienbers are not cool, sober, fair and liberal winded men. Z do not
ballieve that wo chowld chow & burglar at his professional tricks, yet I
do not sea why the film The Lovely Villa? should be rajected by Chicago,
In other words, the members of « Board of Censorship shold ba -ANGOLLS
gont srough, to know whan the sight of a night shirt is: indecont ‘or not
und not raject a pictare because a night chirt is shown on thea eersen,
F159 We 36th. Stroct, N.Y. Ino, M. Bradhet
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Gentlemen;~
In my efforts to have our N. Y. Board of Censorship, either
placed under a more judicious management or reorganized, I have pointed
two fates,
lst :----- We cannot have established rules, to say what should and what
should not be exhibited, as everything is good or bad, according the way
it is shown, A murder, 4 burglary. a beheading, a hanging, a whipping
post, etc. are not to be suppressed if such scenes are to illustrate .
some subjects and not shown with a morbid desire or for the sake of
creating some sensational thrills, ,
In my opinion, bar room scenes, in which men are having a jolly
old time, are far more dangerous than a scene, showing a burglar at his
work, Men know that no matter how a burglar can be #mccessful in several
of his attempts, he generally lands in a prison cell, If a man can be
tempted to commit a robbery, by witnessing on the screen the work of a
burglar, this temptation disappears at the fear of a prison cell, The
bar room scene is more dangerous, because it is a-real temptation to |
find out what fun there is in liquor. There is no punishment in sight,
It is true that many men go to jail, by committing crimes while uner the
influence of liquor, but the spectator relies on his force of character,
to stop drinking before he reaches the dangerous limit.
In my opinion, a recent film is more dangerous than a burglary,
This film comes from Chicago but the Chicago,.Board, who is looking
only for masked burglars, did not see the burglary in this film, When a
burglar is caught, he is not sentenced on the value of the plunder. No,
If he has already been sentenced as a burglar and is caught operating,
even before he can get any plunder, he receives a heavy sentence, which
in New York means "lifet, In the fibm in question, the Doctor's wife
burglarizes the medicine closet---she does not: get mich=--Cocaine---but
cocaine to her means more than diamonds to burglars---she is cayght---
yet she makes a. second unsuccessful attempt, then she robs the desk for
a prescription, ‘his film should be suppressed as the uncontrolled de-
sire of the woman for the drug, proves that there is something worth
having in Cocaine and this film can tempt many weak minded persons to
find out what is this delicious sensatlion---and try a very, very small
dose--~-and--- etc
. This is why I urge a Board composed of cool, sober, intelligent,
fkar minded men, men with some experience in life, not narrow minded
youngmen from Sunday. school, who see in Cocaine a strong moral lesson,
A moral lesson is desirable in each picture but we can show a good moral
lesson. Look at this admirable film of Gaumont: "The Good Hearted Poli-
ceman'’ is there not a strong moral lesson in it? The policemansmis a
father, he knows what is the love of parents---what a noble act when he
changes the dollar. These are moral lessons that do some good, that in-
press, that elevate humanity, Se aah al Stet ar Me
My second point is on the selection of the subjects, In' this T° do
not blame the manufacturers because they are not properly guided by the
trade papers.
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Tf T was an editor, I would say; "Gentlemen:~ We are perhaps more
cultured than the patrons of moving pictures but as we all need the
nickels of \the masses, let us put aside our personal wishes, to cater
to the wanta of these who give us the: nickels, let’ us please them and
not force on them, our personal views, We can admire some old historic
and Roman plays, bat/ we mist bear in mind that our millionaires are not
Bo democratic) as Mr y Anatole France ofM Mr. Clemenceau, ‘Who do not hesit-
ate to sit with the/ common peaple to see moving pictures, - ‘Until we have
special houses. for ithe rich cultured classes, we cannot. expect them to .
patronize our 5¢ and 10g shows, The proof that the rich classes. rae not
the ones supporting the exhibitors, renters and manufacturers, is fully
demonstrated by. the fact that we do not find a single moving picture _
show on the upper Broadway or the fushionable avenues, crowded with.
theatres, hotels, restaurants, cafes, etc. Let us think of the men and
women, working ali day and who at night visit a show for a rest and a ne
recreation. They‘want something to work their different senses, they :
want to either laugh or cry, they want something to arouse their feelings
they want something that they can understand from beginning to end with
out the help of a lecturer, They do not want "High Art Films* that they
carnot understand, they do not want complexe situations, requiring top
mich hard brain work to make out, they do not want long sub titles, long
difficult names that they cannot memorize, They want some good and olever
acting but do not, care for "High Art Films" if high art means films that
they cannot understand, We must also bear in mind that if the subjects
as §Mary Stuarti-n—lLouisXvIt~---"Bonaparte & Josephine'™~--"'uke of Guisel
~--etc, are familiur ot us, they are greek and latin to most of the
spectators and THE MOMENT THAT THE SPECTATORS DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE
SUBJECT, THEY LOSE ALL INTEREST, An illustration,
On June 22nd. I visited Keith's, the programme was as follows:
A LOST INVITATION~ ~ = = + - - = = Edison _
THE TROUBLESOME LAMP POST. ~ « - = Gaumont
A GOOD HEARTED POLICEMAN - - = = = Gaumont
THE DUKE'S JESTER- « «= - = = ~ = = Vitagraph
: On account of special scenery, of special costumes and actors, The
Duke's Jester mst have been the most expensive production, with A Lost
Invitation as a good second in the expense line, Even the Troublesome
Lamp post, with all its damages must have been more expensive than the
Good Hearted Policeman, yet the policeman was the hit of the evening.
_ This simple touching and well ‘told story, went to every heart and while
spectators for months to come, the Lost Invitation, Duke's Jester and
the Troublesome Lamp post \will be forgotten in a few days, I feel con»
fident that many men and women left the theatre to go ond tell to their
neighbors of this good hea ted policeman, while they will have nothing
to say on the other productiions. I do not say that the Duke's Jester is
not a good film. No. It is a production giving mich credit to the mam-
facturers, but a film too cimplexe for the average publics... ocr rs
The trade papers areanelar sighted, They do not guide the manu
facturers, they shape sony f editorials to the tune of the dollars they
the noble act of the eee will remain in the memory of many of the
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can get in advertisements, An editor does not care for the public or the
exhibitors, but he wants the advertisements of the manufacturers, He.
will see a film of Art, something complexe, with a lot of subtitles and
long names to memorize, he will see the spectators yawning on their seats
and dissatisféeéd, yet for the sake of getting a good advertisement from
the manufacturer, he will run to his sanctum, to write a fine criticism,
to praise the production and mislead the manufacturer in the wrong cour~
se. If the editor was not short sighted, he would call the attention of
the manufacturer to these points and take more the side of the public,
If oat manufacturers continue this policy of showing us historic pice
tures that the public does not understand, under the excuse of films of
Art, they will ruin themselves, as the tired public will patronize .the
shows and the richess classes will still remain absent,
Another mistake on the part of the manufacturers is to believe that
they cannot show good acting except in "Tragedy", I cannot call Pathe's
latest production "The Grandfather" a tragey nor "Tye Foundling® of the
Vitagraph Co. a tragedy, yet these two films of very recent dates ure
perfect, : dno, MQ Bradlet, —
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fi Al, Bradlee I, fF —— Cen rorsé ye
139 W. 36th ST, N.Y.
: > O New York, June 25th, 1909,
Edison Manufacturing COs,
Orange, N. J.
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Gentlemen:~
I enclose a few more notes on my question of Cnesorship and
also @ proposition submitted to the Licensed Manufacturers,
I wish you would consider this proposition and see if it would not
benefit the manufacturers,
This proposition is not to last for ever, as in six months, we
should have enough records to know what is wanted and by the Same time
the producers would gain enough experience to avoid the mistakes of to
day.
Ido not blame the manufacturers nor the producers, the trouble is
due to the rush for quick work.
It is understood that I would also make it an object to question
the exhibitors and their ushers, to get their opinions,
I do not condemn High Art Films: "La Tosca".~--"Lowis XVI"...'Duke
of Guise™---"OQliver Twist'~-~stc. as personally I like such work, I enjoy
every part of it but I have found by experience that the patrons of our
5f and 10¢ shows are not posted on history to enjoy these films but on
the contrary, they praise "The Foundling"-~-.~"Hunted to the End™=..1 The
Grandfather™---"Good Hearted Policeman'--~etc,
A iy delat cloenat
' RECEIVED.
' JUN 26 1909
FRANK L, DYER, ;
Na
ey 2
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REMARKS :~
My main object was that as Mr, Collier is trying to infuse some
‘hew blood in his Board, by making it & National one, I wanted the maw
nufacturers to take hold of the opportunity to have competent appointed
for the new Board of Censorship,
Personally I have no grudge against Mr, Collier but in my opinion,
he is not competent to hold such a responsible position. He seesm to be
too simple and too innocent to understand the passions of man, AS a ree
ligious simple man, he is shocked at the sight of a night shirt, because
it is a night shirt, he cannot see when a night shirt is admissible in
a picture or when it is indecent, Mr. Collier has also some queer ways,
He wrote an official letter to the independent manufacturers of the two
films condemned in my letter, praising them for the high work. The said
manufacturers were so pleased, that they asked me to send them skegtches
with a lot of actions and great sensational thrills, I do not do this
work, Had Mr, Collier any right to send such a letter and by 80 doing
encourage a new independent manufacturer to demoralize the Industry with
such pictures? According to your letter, you seem to approve hin,
When I objected and when Collier found that my remarks WERE FOUNDED
he offered to Chalmers, the excuse that he had to accept because all
the copies were printed and consequently, it would have been a great
loss to the manufacturers. This excuse was good many months agao but for
at least 3 months, the manufacturers know that they have to show their
first copy or run the chances of losing all their copies, if the film
excuse was not valid in this case, In fact I had notified
Mr. Collier of the danger of these films before the first copy was made,
and when the first copy was shown, I notified him at once, I know on
another hand that the manufacturers fearing the board of 66nsorship,
made al1 their copies on the quiet and supplied their customers before
they called on Collier,
I have done what the manufacturers do not, I visit daily 2 and 3
shows. I remain as long as I can, I change of seats. Not for the love
of moving pictures as I am tired of them, but to study the audiences,
The business is not as good as could be and will go down because
the manufacturers do not see or hear the public, The public does not
care about your fighte on patents rights, licenses, etc, all waht they
want is good and clean work.
The Biograph is doing some fine work, they are now the mmerican
leaders but in their great ambition, they forget themselves and bring
out some unnatural scenes, as:-~-the killing of a sweet child in a bar
room fight----the unnatural parents not able to recognize their own son
after a mere absence of 5 years---absurd-<-= ,
The other day you came out with some good work in a sense but spoils =
ed it with a blunder, Your managers and your producers dwelt entirely
on this question of the tramp. You spent a lot of money in scenery, in
costumes, in actors, etc and for what? To hear a woman in the audience .
‘at Keith's say: "What a foolish Judge~---stupid--.fake--=" Did youlook
at the film? As you are an attorney at law, you should know that a ‘Judge
anced hiins Sats ed
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must have have some common Sense, When the judge returns and cannot pay
“his fare, why does he allow himself to be arrested and taken to the
Station house? As in front of his residence/we see standing two officers,
officers on their beatg, they must know of the judge and of his resi-
dence and if the Judge was toa remove his wig, in Has presence, he would
spare himself the disgrace of being dragged to the station house, fs to
the cabman it is still worse. The cabman is not a passing cab, it has
been. ordered by the Tudge as it is standing in front of the residence,
When the Judge, disguised as a tramp, enters ‘the cab, the cabman knows
well that it is not a tramp but the Judge himself and the cabman shows
50 plainly this belief that when he deposits the Judge at the house of
the ball, ne drives away without asking aSkieg his fare, why should he
ask for the fare, he knows that the Judme is good for it, Why then show
the cabman so excited st the house and order the arrest of the. Judge?
Is it not sad that dater spending so much money on a filn, for
Spsicul scenery, special costumes, etc, to hear some persons in the au.
dience, suy that is is stupid? This is why I iadvised a competent Board
of Censorship. If when Collier examined this picture, he had used any
judgement, he would have vointed this blunder and by correcting one
Scene and suppressing the scene of the station house, you would have
seved your production, :
The only excuse I can see in this picture is that you did not wish
to give the lie to a certain English trade paper: by showing in your film
not a worthless lawyer but a worthless Juage. This paper said in April or
May that the members of the iM. P. P. Go. were a lynch of worthless laws
yers. (I camiot swear to the trus words but in the articles were the
words, M.P.P.Co, Mr. Macdonald, lawyers, bunch, worthless, etc, you bete i
ter try to read the articles to Judge by yourself )i A
Eo claim that our audiences are not so highly educated as to fully
understand Louis XVI, the Duke of Guise, etc. yet our spectators have i
enough common sense to discover these blunders, ~~ ;
The Licensed Manufacturers rely on the fact that they have a11 what
they can do. It is true, Many exhibitors stick to the licensed manu=
factureis because the independents cannot promise, a regular out put of |
18 reels per week, Is this going to last? The licensed manufacturers \
should not sleep on their laurels, as a number of new companies are t
workig very hard, not working the cheap stuff of the Centaur, Film Import |
Kolle, etc but are working on some very good pictures that will soon 4
leave a number of the licensed manufacturers in the shdde, I do not keep
my eyes in my pockets. I ses a good deal and I can say that by next fall t
the independents will be in shape to offer a larger output of better |
work than the licensed manufacturers unless the licensed ‘ones work hard
to meet this coming competition, GOOD WORK WILL WIN, . :
Although I am greatiy pleased to know that I can go and enjoy mys j
self in the country, that the M.P.F.Co does not need my services and HN6 }
perfectly satisfied with the existing conditions, I am sorry to see the
‘Licensed manufacturers going so joyfully to their ‘ruin, My heart was
with them but as they do not need me, I retire, —
dno. M. Bradlet,
June 28,1909.
Me, John If. Bradlet,
159 West 36th Btreet,
New York, H.Y.
Dear Sir:-
Yours of the 21st inst.with enclosed manuscript,
and also yours of the 25th inst., have been duly received,
While many of the points which you make have some weight, I
believe that the Licensed Manufacturers generally are satis-
fied with the constitution and work of the present Cen sorship
Board and the limits of criticism which thoy! Board: has marked
out for itself. The work has been carried on for so short a
time that it would be very unfair now to attempt to either
oriticine them or propose changes in their methods, for it is
not at all clear that their standard of criticism in regard to
the morality of moving pictures will’ not de; accepted pretty
generally by the public. You may be aware ‘that som suateians
such as England, for instance, have attempted , eo cotati toh
a dramatic censorship, and in such countries this cehisirehip
is never exercised without calling forth ao wievioae criticism
and it appears to me that this criticism is inevitable, since
f7, £2, eat enna Pr
#2 Me. John MN. Bradlet. June 28, 1909.
no two persons will ever agree as to the proper standard of
morality which should guide such censors.
I return herewith the manuscript which you sent me.
Your proposition to act as a critic for the films
produced by this Company is one which I om not disposed at
the present time to consider.
Yours very truly,
GFS/ARK . ; Vice-President.
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pie Me Braet New York, June 29th, 1909.
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JUN 30 104
_FRANK L. DYER,
Mr. Frank L. Dyer,
Orange, Ne Je \ YR
Dear Sir:-
Your letter is @ great relief to me, I am not selfish, I
merely wanted to help the Industry, I wasted much of my time and of my
money, with no renuweration,
As long as the Licensed Manufacturers are satisfied with the pres-
ent state of affairs, I retire from the field, with the greatest pleas-
use and wish them good luck, I have done my best and I sincerly hope
that in the near future, the manufacturers will not regret of having
paid so little attention to my warnings. As I say, your letter is a grea t
relief, as on Saturday I will be able to do, what I feared I would not be
able to do, to go to the country for a long vacation with nothing on
my mind to worry myself.
I remain Dear Sir,
Very respectfully,
720, GQ, Chracller-,
P. S. I add a few closing notes,
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96 TIFT AVENUE, COR. 15th, ST., |
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New York City. Neale ;
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Xotion Picture Patents Coamany, NY
60 Fifth Avenue, ‘Y
New York City.
Gentleren:«
The following pictures see at your office to-day are
approved by the Board of Censorship in toto:
Prince and the Pauper,
4A Coward, : uM
Taking His Photogranh, " ea
Love's Sacrifice, " ar
Mother Goose, "
Room Matos, Lubin,
A Great Wrong Righted, "
A Soldier of the U. Ss. Army. Kalen.
The Wizards Walking Stiok, Eclipse,
The Pleasant Prince, Selig. -
The Coin Collector, Gaunont,
n
Raised in the Country,
Visions of Mother,
A Bad Case. :
The Renunciation.
Jealousy and the Haid,
Sweet and Twenty.
Mrs, Jones! Lover, or
Io want my hat.
No Rest for the Weary.
Calinofait du Sport,
Life Saving.
Mies Hagele,
Concert de Theodore,
Incendté.re :
Divertissement Chinois,
Min with no Title
Sking Tournament. :
The Cobbler and the Caliph
The Birth and Adventures of
a Fountain Pen,
The Magic Pen,
Ndison.
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Biograph.
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Vitagraph,
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The following pictures the Board would like to view again:
Comedieu derriere la Toile
Your Legged Piokpocket,
eicewete (sit HUAN IEM TRENT EMATRON WEN waren acre
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Rat D'hotel. Pathe. °
Conchita the Spanish Belle, Eclipse.
In the following pictures we would ask that the portion
where the burglar in searching for clothes in a wardrobe, holds up to
view a pair of woman's drawers, be eliminated. Also a portion later on
in the picture he lifts his skirts and shows the drawers. ‘Both these
cuts together would probably amount to only a few feet of film,
The Sideboard Tolding Bed. Lubin,
The following Pathe film the Board asks that the kiss at the end of
the picture be eliminated. To an American audience this kiss would make
all that had gone before too suggestive. Merely cut off the last few
feet. :
Aime part Sa Bonne, Pathe.
The Board now approves the following film from which: we had asked
to have some portions eliminated.
Caught in His Own means
Very truly yours,
JOHN COLLIER,
Per Valter Storey,
also on the manufacturers. We therefore ask that this scene be eliminated |
REPORT OF THE BOARD OF CENSORSHIP
ON FILM SHOWN JULY 12th, 1909.
Motion Picture Patents Company, ak wee
80 Tifth Ave., ; aa va
City. ae
Gent lemen;=
The following pictures seen at your office today are approved
by the Board of Censorship:=
A Strange Meeting Bio graph
The Romance of a Stranded Actress Issanay
The Sentinel on Duty Gaunont
The Morning After "
A Long Reach "
The Hidden Treasure Eelipse
Pleasing the Baby "
A Pot of Gold Lubin
Four Legged Pickpoket Pathe
Comediene derrier la Foile "
Across the Island of Ceylon i
A School of New Guinea "
La Victime "
The Trappers tt
The Prodigal Son a
\
Me,
In the Gaumont film "Laurele" it is the opinion of the Board
that the introduction of the scene depicting Christ poing crowned along
with the scene: of the dancing girls, would raise a great deal of adverse
opinion from most classes of people, ‘reacting not only on the Board, but \
: \
The Pathe film "Rat d'hotel, " which the Committee has carefully
inspected hree times, is condemed entirely, The film hinges on the
successful verpetration of the crime of burglary accomplished by chloro-=
forming the ~tetin, The apparent ease in committing this crime adds to
its dangerous suggestiveness of similar acts on the part of any onlooker.
The Board feels that this picture woutddincite to crime and therefore can-
not gpprove ite ,
Very truly yours,
JOHN COLLIER,
Gen'1 Secretary.
NATIONAL BOARD OF CENSORSHIP
96 Fifth Avenue,
New Yori: City. 7
July 24th, 1909
The Motion Picture Patents Co., ‘
. 80 Fifth Avenue, City. ‘
Gent lemen:=
The following pictures seen at your office to-day are passed
by the Board of Censorship:e
ke. Buttinald Lubig¢.
ut
Sporting Blood
Lefore the Hast Selig
Stripping the Forest Eclipse
The Truant Vitagraph
Bugle Call "
The Squire's Will n
the Better Way Biograph
His Wife's Visitor "
A Child of the Forest Edison
To Last Confession Gaumont
Out of Work Kalen
Traced by a Kodak "
"Tis Now the Very Witching Hour of Night Edi son
ry Lord in Livery "
Ethel's Luncheon - "
Menaventures dtun Pantalon Patho.
La Léttre au bon Dkeu 8
Dusolfardie et Bee de Cag "
How.Jack Helped his Little Sister wt
How Balloons are Made ”
Le dot d'Hermine "
Elevage de Taureaux "
Nm ge Ta Soupe u
: Vaux Heritiler "
Le Revanche de Bob tt
Les covulisses de Guignol "
L& Barba de Theedore "
ie Jouer "
Le PolicLer "
ia Cultereen Hongrie a
The Pathe Tilm "Une Nuit Parisienne," the Board £PAGSe:
There is no dramatic interest in the pioutre whatever, it ee sara
representation of men and woman getting drunk on champaigne. This film
impressed ths: Board, as Pathe Mims always do, a8 a faithful and realistic
picture of one of the mny ideas of life but to an American audience the
sight of uwonemreeling drunk is disgusting. The publication of this film
we believe would work great harm to the reputation of the Moving Picture
business.
: After the second inspection the Board passes the Pathe Wlm,
"Le Jouer," subject te the following changesP= By elimination and appre»
priate sub-titlea change the scene of th: attempted suicide by inkaling
gas into one of fainting from starvation,
“Suicide is always dangerous in ite suggestiveness to people of
weak minds md especially so when the method employed is as easy to imitate.
as in this case,
The Urban. Eclipse Film, "The Turning Point," we would 2°”
like to have reesubmitted. i Si
TEES Seay yours JOHN COLLIER,’ ai
[JULY 1909]
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TE BOARD Of CENSORSIUTP i
OF PROGRAMS OF MOTION PICTURE SHOWS
96 Tifth Avenue, Cor. 15th St.,
Hew York City. A
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The Motion Picture Patents Co., iy \
80 Bifth Ave.
City.
Gentlenants ;
The Committee on Censoring of the Board of Can sorship
desires to submit for consideration to the film manufacturers, the follow-
ing opinions bearing on the attitude of the Board toward criminal acts
depicted in Moving Pictures,
Criminal acts which are too violent or gruesome, or which
are in no way essential to the working out of the story, are to be dopre-
cated. Scenes which directly suggest the conmitting of orimes, @.f.3 the
manner of pioking a lock or of holding up a person on a highway, are
equally objectionable; finally, the Board desires to express disapproval
of scenes which represent the mixing of potions of poisons for the pure
pose of committing murder,
Very truly yours,
(Signed) John Collior,
General Seocrotary,
New York Sept. 3rd 09
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Motion Picture Patents Co., |S eee
80 Pifth Ave., ANY an 5
City. “8
Gentlemen:«
The following pictures seen to-day in your offiees are
passed by the Board of Censorship: :
A BISH STORY LUBIN
ALL ON ACCOUNT OF A LETTER LUBIN
WHEN WOMAN HATES LUBIN
A VISIT TO UBCLE LUBIN
A TATR EXCHANGE BIOGRAPH
Tit UNSPOKEN GOODBYE VITAGRAPH
THE SIREN'S NECKLACE VI TAGRAPH
THE MARBLE HEART VITAGREPH
THE FIRST AIRSHIP CROSSING THE
ENGLISH CHANNEL GAUMONT
THE MASON'S PARADISE GAUMONT
Tits TRICKEY DUMMIES GAUMONT
THE FIDDLE AND THE FAN GAUMONT
HER BUSY DAY GAUMONT
THE ENGAGEMENT RING SELIG
THE ORDEAL EDISON
THE PATAL LOVE URBAN*ECLIPSE
PONTINE MARSHES ITALY URBAN-ECLEPSE
STOLEN GEMS GAUMONT
GLIMPSES OF PARIS GAUMONT
the Edison Film, "THE ORDEAL," is one that the Board took great
pleasure in passing. . It was not only interesting from the exhibi-
tor's view point, but impressed the Board as an artistie and dis«
tinguiphed production. As an example of American skill in Moving
Picture ‘manugacture, it will no doubt stand high.
Very truly yours,
Gmeral Seeretarye
Message received at the
opening of the Institute's
Twelfth Season, Novem-
ber Sth, 1908 :
“LT send to ‘The People's In-
stitute my cordial greetings and
my best wishes for a successful
year, 1am deeply interested
in the work of the Institute and
Thope the range of its benefi-
cial influence will constantly
Increase.”
Ciarnas E. Huains.
THE PEOPLE'S
INSTITUTE
318 EAST FIFTEENTH STREET
Lyatan Annott
Frank L, Bannotr
Anrrep J, Bounton
R. R. Bowker
Eowtn M. Burxiey
Nicttoras Murray Butter
ANpREW CARNEGIE
oun S. Crosny
AMUEL T, DONNELLY
oun FI. Finney
Ronert W. pe Foaxst
Franken Hi, Gropinas
R. W. Guper
Samurt Gowers
Tuomas C. Hatt
Yr. “rank “. Dyer,
Yresident,The lotion Picture Patents Co.,
City.
Dear Vr. Dyer:
I learn thst vou have
have a talk with you as soon
NEW YORK
ADVISORY COUNCIL
AMES HH. TAMILTON
EsTIteR TTERRMAN
Wirutane M. Ivins
Annizg 2. Jennines
Georce Wittram Knox
oun Brooxs Leavitt
aucs LOE
Wintsam TY, MAxwenn
Francis ), CLAY MORAN
Roneat C. Ocpen
Henry Pantpps
Leonora O'REILLY
Georcr Foster Peanony
Janes I, Reynouns
acon A, Riis
FRANKLIN TH, SARGENT
acon Hl. Scurry
Samurt Sciursan
Eowtn R.A. Serioman
Isaac Newton ‘SELicMAN
ALBERT SHaw
Anna Gartrn Srencer
Lincoun STRRrENS
Anson Puetrs Stoxes
. G. Purtrs Stoxrs
SCAR S, STRAUS
Linwan D, Wap
Paut M, Warnurc
Mornay Witnirams
as it is convenient,
TRUSTEES
Howaab Mansvirty,
Chairman,
Vv. Everit Macy,
Treasurer, 68 Broad St,
Cranes Srracue Stiri,
Managing Director.
Cuanzes I, Barker
utius Ilenry Cowen
» Aspinwatn Llopce
oun S, Huy.er
Grorce W. Kirciwev
Francis R. Masters
Evwaro D, Pace
Tuomas R. Sticer
Treo, M. Stet
Set Srracus Terry
Micnarn M, Bae Jr.,
ecretary.
- SEP 161909
b
Sr ae
uch steady
progress has deen made hy the censorship during the surimer: the
RANK Ly DYER
situation,local and national,which the censorship was designed to meet,
has altered and on the whole favorehbly: and there are plan. for the
jiinmediate future which will interest you and which I am qnxiows vo lay
before you, IT can call at pract’cally any time you may sug-
gest.
Very truly yours,
gta Corbes,
General Secretary,
Board of Censorship.
The Motion Picture Patents Co.,
Gent lemen
passed by
[FROM WALTER STOREY]
New York,
80 INfth Ave., City.
the Board of Consorehip:e
The Judges Ward
The Hand Organ Han
Te Scales of Justice
Stricken Blind
Wife or Child
Breach of Promise
Their Social Education
The Farmer's Rreasure
Areoplane at Keins
A Duel in Mid Air.
The Lie; A Story of the Franco Prussian
The Drunkard's sate :
The Brothers
Stag Ilunting in Japan
An Aleerion Stuc
In Ancient Greece
Tie Harvellove Garland
Woman's Life in India
A Mica Mine
Drudic Remains in Brittany
A Tempestuous Adventure
Acrobatic Exercises by the Colibri
Dwarfs
The Painter's Sweetheart
The Grand Review before the Duke of
Baden
wad
The following pictures seen ar your office to=day
Sept. 17th, 1909,
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ae.
Lubin ° ;
Kealem = *
Vitagraph : tego
Selig a
Helipse
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sah,
Léieon
Eel in se
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hd ison
Waylidison.
Selig
Essanay
pathe
Pa, tire
Pathe
Pathe
Pathe
Pathe
Fathe
Pathe °
Patne
Pathe
Paths
While the Board passed the Kalem picture, "The Hand Organ Hen," 3% 25
regretted that a subject such as kidnapping was used.
Public. feeling
against this kind of crime is still strong in various parts of the
country and it does not seem to the Board ot be a goad policy to
publish a picture, however wekk.it is hendled, having for a sipjeot a
these that is so cpen to etiticiam.
The use of satire as material for comedy oxmplitied in the Edison
film, "Their Socual Bdveation," is a new note in Moving Pictures and
seems to the Board well worth following up. "The Lie," also by Edison
impressed the Board as one of that Company's finest productions.
or x
Very truly yours,
a
i cw
Censorship Seoratary.
October 16th, 1909,
Motion Picture Patents Co,,
80 Wifth Ava.,
Citys
Gentlenmens~
The fol lowing pictures pictures socn at your office are
passed by the Board of Censorship:
DSRTLTALIN: AWD. BOER SELIG
THE SENORTITA SELIG
COUNTRY LIFE IN A FLAT GAUKONT
TICKTED TO DEATH GAUMONT
CROWN PRINCE OF GERMANY DRILLING TROOPS ECLIPSE
CASTING BREAD UPON THE WATHRS ECLIPSE
HIS IQSLPMATE CAUMONT
HUSBAND'S STRATHOGY GAUNONT
ADELE'S WASH DAY VITACRAPEH
ANNETTE KELLAMAN VITAGHAPHE
SNTOMBID ALIVE VITAGRAPH
BILL Ti BILL POSTER EDISON
A WINTERS TALE EDISON
THE IMP OF Tie BOTTLE EDISO N
BRAVE WOMEN OF "76 LUBIN
HIS MASTERPIECE EDISON
A LESSON IN PALHISTRY LUBIN
In the Edison Film, "A ROSE OF THE TENDERLOIN," the Board would ask
that the scene showing the suicidr of the woman be shortened. The
scene as it wus presonted emphasizes the act too much making it une
necessarily gruasone,
Very truly yours,
Conevrship Secretary.
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Lyman Aunorr
Fenix Apner
Cuanres FY Axep
Axrrep J. Bourton
James P. Boyre
Witiian: Apams Brown
Rourrr W. Brurre
Joserit R, BucHANAN
S. Parkes Capatan-
Awnprew Canneqie
Joun Batrs Crark
R, Funton Curtina
Epwaro T. Devine
Samuen I, Donnetry
Anprew W. Epson
Roserr W. ve Forest
Franxuin H, Gippincs
Ricirarp Watson Gttper
Samugn Gomrers
Eran R, L. Gouzp
Percy S, Grant
Davin H. Greer
Tnomas C. Harn
Hamiron Hort
Witnrase M. Ivins
Gerorce W. Kircitwey
V. Everitt Macy
Mowarp Mansrigup
Marcus M. Marks
Winnias, H. MAXWELL
Ronerr S, MacAntirur
Grorcg McAnrny
II, Perema Menpes
R. Henex Newton
Frank Mason Nontir
Leonora O'RetLty
Epwarp D. Pace
Joun P, Peters
Jaues B, Reynotos
Wittram R, Rienmarns
Jacon A. Ruts
FRANKiaIn HH, Sarcent
Jacon H, Scurrr
Samtuen. ScwunMan
Enwin R. A. Senioman
Isaac N, SeviaMan
Acorrt Siraw
Josern SInversan
Mary, K. Srxnovitcr
Tuoaas R. Strcer
Georce J. Satrti
Enwaro L. Stevens
Anson Purirs Stoxes
Oscar S. Straus
Rozert Warcitorn
Encernton L. Winturor, Jn.
Stepuzn S. Wise
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National Board of Censorship
? OF MOTION PICTURES
wy LISHED BY THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
6 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street
NEW YORK CITY,N. Y.
COMMITTER ON CENSORING,
Atneat Sitrers, Chairman
Wittian J. O'Sura
GPVERNING BOARD
A Wittiam Knox, Chairman
Chartly Organization Soctety—W. Frank Prnsoss Mictragn M. Davis, Jn.
Children’s Aid Society—C. A, Prossen Josern i, Daiscouy fins. Auatsra Puescore
City Vigilance League—Mattuew Beattte Wa. M. McKenzie Mas. Joserumz Reppina
Ethical-Social League—Gerorce Wituras Knox
Federation of Churches— Watrer Laiptaw
League for fvlitical Education—Rongrt E. ELy
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Howard Brapstrert
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
Micirazt M, Davis, Jr., Chairman
Mus, Auausta Prescott
Mrs. Joszrumme Reopina
“ Howarp Brapstreet
Public Education Association—Mars. Mintam Sutro Prior Ravpat Fouxs
Society for the Prevention of Crime—T, L. McCurn tock Titomas L, McCrrnrock Avoert Sres
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M, Serena Townsenn OFFICERS
Members at Large: Fre Counter, General Secretary
Preperrck N. Cooke, Je, Executive Secretary
{oun qoutes R be Guantes Hamace Berti WaLten Storey, Censorship Secretary
RS, Joseruine Renot: USTAVE STR.
Auuext Stets Miss EVANGELINE E, Waitngy "Phone, 3843 Chelsea
Oct. 25th, 1909
Mr. Frani€ Dyer, Pres.
Motion Picture Patents Co.
80 Pifth Ave., City.
Dear Mr. Eyert=
After our conversation in Orange, some
weeks ago, I went ahead and began negotiations with the
Board of Education with a view to pushing rapidly ahead
the use of motion pictures in schools. We have now gotten
several important concessions from the Board of Edwation.-
Dr. Maxwell authorizes us to make a thorough denonstration
of moving pictures in the evening recreation centers, and
assureg us that if the experiment makes evident the value
of moving pictures, they will be adopted throughout the
recreation systems of the public schools. Possibly, a more
important opening is the following: We asked the Board of
Education for an opportunity to make a demonstration be-
fore its members, officially, in the official room of the
Board of Education. To this demonstration, the school
authorities of the surrounding Cities would be invited, the
object being to make clear the pedagogical and scientific
National Hoard of Censorship
: OF MOTION PICTURES
ESTABLISHED BY THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street
NEW YORK CITY, N. Y.
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Lyman Annott
Fenix ADLER
Cuances FL AKep
Atrrep J, Boutton
James P, Boye
Winttas ApaMs Brown
Rosert W, Brvere
Josrrit Ry BUCHANAN
S. Parkes Capman
Aspkew CARNEGIE
Joun Bates Crark
R. ¥ucton Cutting
Epwarn T. Devine
Samue. 1, Donnetry
Anorew W, Epson
Ronert W. pe Forrst
Franxuin 11, Gippincs
Ricnary Watson Gitper
Saver Gosrers
Etaoin R, L, Goutp
Percy S, Grant
Davin Ht, Greer
Thomas C. Haru
Hamitron Horr
Winttas M, Ivins
Grorce W. Kircitwey
V. Everrt Macy
Mowarp MaNnsPinep
Marcus M. Marks
WILLIAM EL, MAXWELL
Kionkat S. MacArtnur
Groncs McAneny
IL, Perutra Mznoes
R. Hesse Newton
FRANK Mason Nontit
Leonora O'Reiny
Epwaro D,. Pace
Joun DP. Peters
James B, Reynotns
Wittiam R, Riciarps
Jacon A. Riis
Franxuin Tl, Sancent
Jacon Hl, Scxtrer
Samurn. ScuutmMan
Eowin R, A. Sentoaan
Isaac N, SentaMan
Atugrt Suaw
Josertur Sruverstan
Mary K. Sriguovircit
Tromas R, Sricer
Geonce J. Socrtis
Enwarn L, Stevens
Anson Puetrs Stokes
Oscar S, Straus
Roperr Warciorn
Eocerton L, Wintiror, Jn.
Steeuen S, Wisx
GOVERNING BOARD
Rev. Dr, Geo. Wintram Knox, Chairman
Charity Organisation Soctety—W, FRaxk Punsons
Children’s Aid Society—C, A, Prosser
City Vigilance Leagne—Matritew Beattin
Ethical-Social League—Grorce Wiruiam Knox
Federation of Churches—- Warten LarLaw
League for Political Education—Rosert E. Evy
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—iHowarp BrapstReet
COMMITTEE ON CENSORING.
Aunert Sitters, Chairman
Micnact. M. Davis, Ji. Winuram J. O'Sitea
osers FF. Daisconn Mns, Aucusta Prescott
Mitton Gosporrer GC. A, Prossen
Wa. Mo MecKenare Mrs, Joseruine Reovine
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
Micitaee M, Davis, Je, Chairman
Howaro Drapstreet Mus, AuGusta Prescott
Public Education Association—Mrs. Minas Suto Price Ratrir Fours Mrs. Joseriuns Revoina
Society for the Prevention of Crime—t, L, McCuintocr Tromas L, McCurnroce Avoert SHigis
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M, Serena Townsend OFFICERS
Members at Large: qoun Cottine, General Secretary
‘rpoerick N. Cooxe, Jr., Bxrecutive Secretary
oun COLuEn CHARLES SPRAGUE SMITIE Watrer Storey, Censorship Secretary
Mas. Joseviting Reppina = Gustave STRAUBENMULLER ‘i
Atuert SiteLs Miss Evancenrne E, Witttney Phone, 3843 Chelsea
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value of moving pictures, and likewise to ex:lain the busi-
ness side of the proposal to introduce moving pictures into
the regular school curriculum. To-day, I have a letter
from Supt. liaxwell saying the permission has been granted
and that it is only necessary for us to fix the datee We
have likewise increased the official representation of
the schcols on The Censorship Board, and Dr. Maxwell hine
self has agreed to become a member of the Censoring Committ-
eee In order to make possible the attendance on Censorship
meetings of the men "higher up" in the education system, we
begin this week to hold one censorship meeting in the
evening (Thursday evening, this taking thé place of the
regular Friday session.)
I spoke to Mr, Marvin on all these points, and
he suggested that I submit all the propositions to the |
Patents Co. in writing. This I did, and I suppose they are
now being considered by the members of the Patents Co. We
are anxious to strike while "the iron is hot." There are a
number of other impar tant developments in the line of the
adoption of moving pictures by educational nd philans.
National Board of Censorship
OF MOTION PICTURES
ESTABLISHED BY THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street
NEW YORK CITY, N, Y.
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Ivaan Annott
Fenrx Apter
Citartes V’, Axeo
Atrrep J, Bourton
James P, Bove
Wiitram Apams Brown
Romer W, Bruere
Jogeri R. BUCHANAN
So Dankes Capatan
Anprew Carnecie
Jousx Rates Crark
R, Funton Cutting
Epwaxp ‘T. Devine
Samuet I. Donnetty
Ayprew W., Enson
Ronert W. ne Forest
Franknin H, Gippincs
Ricitarp Watson GrLver
SamugL Gomrers
Excin R, L, Goutp
Percy S, Grant
Davin H. Greew
Tuomas C, Hate
Hamaitton Hott
Wituanm M. Ivins
Georce W. Kircnwey
V, Evertt Macy
YowarD MANSPIELD
Marcus M. Marks
WintiaM HH, MAXWELL
Konerr S. MacAagtitur
Grorce McAneny
M1. Pereira MeEnpeEs
R. Heser Newron
TANK MASON Nortit
Lroxoxa O' Retry
Epwaro D. Pace
Joun P. Peters
Janes B, Revnotos
Wintram: R. Ricitarns
Jacon A, Ris
Frankiin TH. Saxcent
Jacon HH, Scurry
SaMvEL ScuUuLMAN
Enwin R.A. Sentaaan
Isaac N. Srusanan
Acnert Suaw
Josura SinverMan
Mary K. Simknovitcn
‘Tomas R. Strcer
Grorce J. Satrtir
Evwaro L, Stevens
Anson Purrurs Stokes
Oscar S. Straus
Ronert Watcitorn
Evcerton L. Wrturor, Jr.
Sternen S. Wisx
pesetoterl Ir)
GOVERNING BOARD COMMITTEE ON CENSORING.
Rev. Dn. Geo. Winttas Knox, Chairman
Charity Organization Soctely—W. Fuask Prasons
Children’s Aid Society—C. A. Prosser
City Vigilance League—Mattugw Beattis
Ethicat-Social League—Grorce Wituras Knox
Federation of Churches— Water Lartaw
AcoerT Sirrers, Chairman
Micnazt M, Davis, Jn, Witnram J. O'Sites
oserh F. Drisconn Mrs, Avousta Puuscorr
Minton Gosporrer G, A. Prosser
Wa M. MeKenztr Mas. Joserumns Reopina
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
Micwaew M, Davis, Ju., Chairman
League for Holttrcal Education—Rouent E, Exy
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Uowaay Bravstreer Howaarn Branstreer
Public Education Association—Mas, MiniaM SuTro Prcr Ratpu Fouks Mrs. Josrrumyg Reopina
Society for the Prevention of Crime—'v. L. McCurntock Tuomas L. McCutntock Aupert Sqis.s
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M. Senuna Townsenn OFFICERS
Mrs, Augusta Prescott
Joun Cortina, General Secretary
Members at Large:
(reventck N, Cooke, Jr., Exceutive Secretary
OuN COLLIER CHARLES SPRAGUE SMitit Wattea Storey, Censorship Secretary
Mrs, Josyening Revorva = Gustave STRAUBEN MULLER ;
Anpert Sute.s Miss Evancrtink E, Witney Phone, 3843 Chelsea
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thropic bodies, but I will not take space to write it in
here. It would probably be best if I could see you and
have a clear half hour to talk the matter over, or could
go before a meeting of the constituent menbers of the
Patents Co. As I said before, it is a broad question of
policy on the part. of the manufacturers, involving an
answer to the questiovn whether they thoroughly desire the
adoption of moving pictures by the public school systems
of the country.
You will be interested to know ,#hax in connection
with theCensorship proper, + hat the National Censorship
among independent manufacturers is now virtually complete.
This hag come about through the shifting of most of the
European agencies from the International Co. to the Film
Import Co. We have been for some time censoring nationally
for the Film Import Co., but continue to censor only
locally for th e International Co. Unless some important
change comes in the drift of the moving picture business,
the Censorship will be complete for all manufacturers in,
a few weekse :
yery truly yours, g ts: wif cao
oo
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Lystan Asnott
Fenix Apter
Crartes F. Axgp
Axrrep J, Boutron
James P. Bore
Winriam Apaus Brown
Ronert W. Brurse
Josxrit R, BucHaNaN
S. Parkes Capman
Anprew CaRNeciz
Joun Bates Crark
R, Furton Cutting
Epwarp T. Devine
Samuen B. Donnetry
Anprew W. Epson
Ronerr W. ne Forest
Franktty H. Gippines
Ricatarp Watson Gripen
Samugi Gompers
Exratn R. L, Gourp
Peacy S.. Grant
Davin H, Green
Tomas C. Harn
Hasinton Horr
Wituram: M, Ivins
Geornce W. Kincuwey
VY. Evertr Macy
Howarp MANSFigLp
Maxcus M, Marxs
WILLIAM H. MaxweLy
Rongar S. MacAntuur
Guorce McAneny
Hi. Pereira Menogs
R. Hener Newton
FRANK Mason Nort
Leonora O'Reiriy
Epwarp D. Pacg
Joun P, Petzas
James B. Reynotos
Wirirawe R, Ricitarps
Jacon A. Rts
Franxuin H. Saxcent
Jacon H, Scurry
Samuet Sciunman
Eowrn R, A. Serioatan
Isaac N, Setsantan
Avoert Saw
Josern Sriversaw
Mary K, Siatxuovitcr
Tuomas R, Sricer
Grorcs J, Ssatit
Epwarp L, Srevens
Anson Pitetrs Stoxes
Oscag S. Straus
Ronrar Warcrorn
Encerton L, Winturor, Jr.
Strepuzn S. Wise
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National Board of Censorship 4
OF MOTION PICTURES
ESTABLISHED BY THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street
NEW YORK CITY, N. Y.
COMMITTEE ON CENSORING.
Avoert Sirters, Chairman
Witiiam, J. O'Surea
Mrs, Avausta Parscorr
Tinton Gosporrex G. A. Prosser
Wa. M. McKenzte Mas. Josgeminx Reppina
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
Micnage M, Davis, Ja., Chairman
GOVERNING BOARD
Rev. Dr. Go, Wittiam Knox, Chairman
Micnag, M, Davis, Jn.
Charity Organization Soctely—W. Frank PrRsoxs oserh FF. Driscour
Children’s Aid Society—C. A, Prosser
City Vigilance League—Mattuew Beartix
Ethical-Sociat League—Groxce Wiutram Kxox
Federation of Churches— Wattex Larwiaw
League for Political Education—Roszat E, Evy
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Howarp BRavstar2t
Public Education Association—Mas, Mita SUTRO PRICE
Society for the Prevention of Crime—T, L. McCtintocx
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M, Serena Townsenp
Mra, Aucusta Prescott
Mrs. Joszemine Roping
ALBERT Siti
OFFICERS
Joun Corurer, General Secretary |
Frepertcx N. Cooxz, Jr., Executive Secretary
Watter Sronzy, Censorship Secretary
"Phone, 3843 Chelsea
Howarp_ Drapstaeet
Rare Forks
Tuomas L. McCurrocx
Members at Large:
oun CoLiier CHARLES SPRAGUE S3ITH
fxs, Josepuing Reporna Gustave STRAUSENMULLER
Atoext Sitters Miss Evancering E, WHITNEY
October 27, 1909.
Mr. Frank 7. Dyer,
The Edison Mfg. Co.
75 Lakeside ave. ]
Orange, WN. J. f
OCT 281999
FRANK L, bre)
Through Mr.: Marvin and the representatives of the
various licensed companies, I have arranged for an evening
session of the Board of Censorship, on Thursday evening of
each week at the Patents Co. office. This was done in or-
der to afford an opportunity for various members of the
Board of Education to be present, as it was not deemed ad-
viseble nor was it very practible for them to give up any
of their official working hours during the day.
Dear Sirie
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As Dr. Maxwell, head of the School System of this
City will be present together with Mr. J. C. Astredo, Chair-
man of the San Francisco Board of Censorship and Mr. J. M.
Casey, head of the License Bureau of Boston, we would be :
very glad if you could find it convenient to be present and
meet these gentlemen: ’
Very truly yours,
frhsioer
General Secretary.
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oy, Orange, N.J., October 28, 1909,
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Mr, John Collier,
National Board of Censorship,
96 Fifth Ave., K.¥.C.
Dear Sirie
Mir. Dyer has received yours of the 26th inst.
ond after gzving the matter coreful consideration, directs
me to say that in his opinion the Licensed Hanufactur ers
would probably be unwilling to advise the use of motion
pictures in the recreation centers of the City, since
he believes that this would simply amount to the giving
of free shows to the detriment of the regularly establish-
ed. moving picture theatres. lir. Dyer sees no objection
however, to the use of pictures in the public schools as
part of the regular curriculum, in which case, of course,
only pictures of an educational nature would be used.
You understand that these dpinions are purely
personal with ur. Dyer and that he has not approached any
of the other Manufacturers in regard to it, but he feels
that his opinion will be shared by the others.
Yours very truly,
GFS/ ARK. Seoretary.
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Cyaan Annotr
Fenix ApLer
Cutantes Fy AXED
Ararpo J. Boutron
James P, Bovir
WILLIAM ADads Brown
Ronert W. Brveez
JoserH R, BUCHANAN
3, Parkes CapMan
Anprew Carnecte
joun Bates CLark
R, Funton Curtine
Eowaro T. Devine
Samuet B, Donnecry
Anprew W, Epson
Rovent W, ne Forest
frankiin H, Grppinas
RICUARD WATSON GILDEN
SauueL, Gootrers
Evcrn R, L, Gourp
Percy S, Grant
Davin If, Greer
Tuomas C, Haru
Hawutton Hort
Wittraw M, Ivins
Grorce W. Kincuwer
V. Evertt Macy
Howarp Mansrtetp
Marcus M. Marks
Wititas, TL, MAXWELL
Ronzat S. MacArtiun
Grorce McAneny
U1. Pernima Menves
R, Heozr Newton
FRank 3fAs0n Nortit
Leonora O'REILLY
Eowarn D. Pace
Joun P, Peters
Janes B, Reynotps
Wana R. Ricirarps
Jacos A. Ruts
Frankiin H, Sarcent
Jacor Uf, Scuser
Samuzn Scmunaan
Eowin R, A. Seitantan
Isaac N, Setioaan
Aupzat Straw
Josnen Sruvensan
Mary K. Sixnoviren
Tuomas R, Surcer
Grorce J. Sart
Eowarp L. Stevens
Anson Purtrs Stokes
Oscar S, Straus
Roserr Watciorw
Epcerton L, Wintitrop, Jn.
Starnmn S. Wisk
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National Board of Censorship
% OF MOTION PICTURES
ESTABLISHED BY THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor. 15th Street
NEW YORK CITY, N. Y.
GOVERNING BOARD
Rev. Du. Geo, Witnram Kyox, Chairman
Charity Organization Svctefy-W, Frask Pensoxs
Children's Aid Socicty—C. A. Paosser
City Vigilance League—Mattnew Weartie
Ethical-Social League—Grorce Wittias Kyox
Federation of Churches— Water LAIDLAW
League for Political Education—Rovent E. Evy
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Howarn BRavstREet
COMMITTEE ON CENSORING.
Avoert Sutets, Chairman
Micaen M, Davis, Jn. Wiutan J. O'Suzs
osern I. Detscor. Mas, Avcusta Parescort
Micton Gosponrer C. A. Prossen
Wat. M. MoKenzin Mus, Joserning Revowwe
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
Micuaen M. Davis, Jr., Chairman
———
, bis Howarp Dravstreet Mrs. :
Public Education Association—Mars, Mintam SuTno PRick Rane Forks Mas, Jomtien! Renn
Society for the Prevention of Crime~T, L. McCuintocn Tuomas L. McCuintock AvoerT Siters
5 «od
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M. Serena Townseno OFFICERS
Members at Large: $ Jorn noun, General, Secgetary
; Freperick N. Cooke, Jr., Executive Secreta:
oun CoLueRr CHARLES Spracur Sst Watrer Stoney, Censorship Secretary ay
fxs. Joseruine Repping Gustave STRAUBENMULLER
Atvert Sites Miss Evancenine E, WHitnry "Phone, 3843 Chelsea
November 1, 1909.
Mr. Frank W. Dyer,
Edison Mfg. Co., patios,
73 Lakeside Ave., pen oN
Orange, N. J. ecoes eres a :
NOV 21905
Dear Sir:= \ Pe ey BG
Bem ae eee cee Siete Saeee
Answering your recent letter in regards to the
use of moving pictures in recreation centers. ‘
We understand the position you take in this matter
and agree with you. However, as the enclosed copy of our .
letter to Mr. Kleine will explain, we are going ahead with the
idea of having pictures introduced directly in the school pro=
grams. You will note that our work toward the introduction
of moving pictures as a means of education will not be confin-
ed to simply the New ‘ork authorities. We intend to have a
demonstration in the rooms of the Board of Education to which
will be invited leading educators from the surrounding cities
and we also intend to send this selected group of films to
other cities under our auspices.
Very truly..yours,
ee . General Secretary.
EGH. 4
[ENCLOSURE]
Novenber lst, 1909.
tir. George Kleine
52 State Street, ;
“. Chicago, IL1..
Dear Sir:-
: ‘After considerable cork on our part we have at
last secured the interest in noving pleturee of Dr. “illiam
H. Waxwell, Sunt, of publi nchools in this City. ‘“e have
arranged with him to pive so demonstration program before the
Board of Hducation &93 S00n &B We Gan secure the proper films.
the pietures which wa ish to gather together for this demon~
stration will also be used in & munber of other exhibitions
in this City before othr bodies of influential persons ins
terested in ednoational work. Later we plan to send the
films to other alties such ag Vhiladelphia and 3oston.
‘In carrying out this plan it is necessary to have
from ten to a dozen of the Urban films deeling with scientific.
biological and industrial subjects.
erts to send us a number of samples of such educational films
to this country for demonstration purposes, would 1t be posse
ible ae us to have an exhibition of them in about six weeks
You will very readily see that ve have ak last
Secured an exceptional opportunity Lor the opening up of an
additional market for moving pictures aside from the foot of .
the granter dignity that this business will aequire
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[ENCLOSURE]
w= Pee
Mr. George “Yleine. :
ing esssociated with educational work of the country.
Very truly yours,
General Secretary.
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Mr. Dyer:~
Manufacturers' Meeting: You may wish to
raise some question as to whether the Manufacturers
approve of the Censorship Board's attempt to force
_the use of moving pictures in schools and recreation
centres.
G. FS.
GFS/ARK.
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Motion Picture Patents Co,, 9 s¥"s—
80 Fifth Ave., Mrtnaiee
New York City. VTE 190g |
Gentlemen:- TN Pe ast ae Sade
The following pictures seen at your office yesterday, Nov.
4th, are passed by the National Board of Censorship:
Rynsters Ruse Gaumont
Harloquin's Nightmare Gaumont
Tighting Suffragettes : Eelipse
From Workhouse to Mansion Urban
A Miglaid Baby Essanay
School Celebratidn in Newark Edison
What the Cards Foretold Edison
The Keeper of the Light Edison
La Dame au Camillias Pathe
Camen Pathe
Jim Blackwood Hockey Pathe
Jean Val Jean, the End of a Long Life Pathe
The following pictures are passed subject to alteration:
Tragedy de Belgravia Pathe
Children of the Sea : Lubin
When Women Win Lubin
Personal Conduct of Henry Essanay
The following pictures to be reconsidered:
Tragic Idyl Pathe
‘ ‘The following picture is condemned:
"“Smuggler's Game” Selig
The Edison Film, "The Keeper of the Light" impressed the
Board as one of the most dignified productions of that Company. The
Sea soenes were especially fine in thelr dramatic feeling and inter-
este
The Camiliias and Carmen films of Pathe are worthy of all
praise. Theactress taking the part of Camille was exceptionally
good. The Pathe film "Tragedy de Belgravia" is a most dramatic pro-
duction. The Board would ask thatthe part of the scene where the
officer shoots into the prostrate body of the queen be shortened.
Simply reduce the number of shots. The other Pathe film "Tragic Idyl"
needs clearer sub=-titles te make it evident that the man has simply
rejected the woman's love, as nowone is rather confused as to the
actual drift of the story or else a very mordid motive is inferped
for her suicide,
In the Lubin fdlm, "Children of the Sea" the Board asks
that the follewing sub-titles be inserted after the scene represente-
can ea appearance of the vision and the consequent repulse of the
uULto
re e widew, trueto her husband's memory, refuses to marry and
flees heart-broken awaye
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(2)
We think that you will agree with us that this sub-title will more
clearly explainyour meaning of the Buoceeding scenes which as we
understand are intended to portray the idea that the woman, while
deeppy in love with the soldier 1s still faithful to her husband's
memory and the agony of mind in which this circumstanve places her,
compels her to flee from the presence of her Buitor, farcing her to
end her life. The other Lubin picture "When Women Win", the Board
would ask that the folloxing changes be made. Cut out the latter patt .
part of the courtroom scene from the point just before every one is
ordered from the room with the exception of the two prisoners. This
would eliminate the very undesirable Buggestiveness ofthe remainder
of the scene + that of the conduct of the judge with the prisoners.
7,80 cut out either the entire scene relating to the doctor or else
all that portion from the scene representing the doctor arriving at
the door, The part that follows, suggesting that the man has ‘given
birth to a child is utterly disgusting. By transporting the courte
room Scene so that it becomes the last Scene, you will have an inter-
esting ending to the filn,
The Selig Mim "Snuggler's Game" is condemnadenti in its
Present form. As has been shown by previous decisions aes Board
this body has no objection to the proper use of :crimeigjn a moving
picture, The point against this picture is thatthere is no big
motive back of it in the inoidents and acting to redeem the murder-
ers, drugging, and general brutality of seme of the scenes? This
picture is based solely on the exploits of a criminal, the love story
in it occupying a very insignificient part. As a dramatic production
it lacks quality, and if for mb“other reason, we believe it would be
extremely imwise for the manufacturers to put this picture out. I+¢
would simply mean the }owering of the standard set by previous pro-+
auctions, That picture of this sort are demanded by the trade is
probably very true, but the same effect of action could no doubt be
secured in a more dramatic and leas thelodramatic manner,
The Board is loathe to condem this picture, believing that the
manufacturers are sincerely trying toproduce onjectionable pictures
and therefore the Board would be very glad to consider any suggested
alterations in this film which would: eliminate the undesirable featme
ures that it now possesses. ; ,
The Essanay Film "Personal Conduct of Henry" while a clever come
edy would no doubt be improved by the elimination of the very ob-
vious and unnecessary display of <IHEEXXH certain lingerie upon the
clothes-line in the back yard scene, Cut out thatpart of the scene
up to the point just before the last garment is withdrawn from the
line. In doing this you will eliminate a slightly vulgar suggestion
from an otherwise fery laughable comedy. ;
Very truly yours,
Censorship Secretary.
athe
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ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Lystan Aunotr
Feurx ApLeR
Cragces F, AKeo
Axyrep J, Bounton
James P, Boyte
Witziase Apams Brown
Ronert W, Bauere
Joserin R. BUCHANAN
S. Tarxes CapMan
Anprew CARNEGIE
Joun Dates Crark
R. Funron Currina
Evwarp T. Devine
Sanven. B. Donnetry
Anprew W, Epson
Ronert W. ve Forest
Frawxirin II, Grpprxcs
Riciarp Watson Give
SamugL Gomrens
Exatn R, L, Gout
Peacy S, Grant
Davip I, Greee
Tomas C, Hatt
Hawutton Hort
Wits M, Ivins
Geonce W. Kincuwey
V, Everitt Macy
Howarp Mansrienp
Marcus M. Marks
Wintiam H, MAXWELL
Kooear S. MacAnrtuur
Grorce McAneny
IY, Penesza Menpss
R, Hener Newton
FRANK Mason Nortit
Leonora O’Rettry
Epwarp D, Pace
Joun P. Peters
James B, Reynotps
Wiruraat R, Ricitarps
Jacon A, Rais
Frankiin H, Sancent
Jacon H, Scmuirr
Samven Scwuman
Epwin R. A. Seniaatan
Isaac N, Sauron
Avoerr Suaw
Joserit Sitvexman
Mary K. Sinnnoviten
Tuomas R. Strcer
Groner J. Satrtit
Enwano L, Stevens
Anson Pitntrs Stoxys
Oscar S, Straus
Ronzar Wartcrors
Encerton L. Wintnaor, Jr.
Steruzn S, Wise
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~2_ National Board of Censorship
OF MOTION PICTURES. p
: ESTABLISHED BY THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
96 FIFTH AVENUE, Cor, [5th Street
NEW YORK CITY, N. Y.
GOVERNING BOARD
Rev. Dr. Gro, Witntam Knox, Chairman
Charity Organisation Soctety—W. Fuask Yersoxa
Children's Aid Society—C, A, Prosser
City Vigilance League—Matrnew Beattie
Ethical-Social League—Grorce Writraw Kyox
Federation of Churches— Watter Laiwtaw
League for /vlitical Education—Roszrt E. Eryx
Neighborhood Workers’ Association—Howaro Brapstreet
Public Education Association—Mxs. Mintan Suto Prior
Society for the Prevention of Crime—T. L. McCutntocr
Woman's Municipal League—Miss M. Serena Townsend
Members at Large:
Joun Counter Cuan.rs Spraqur SMiTH
Mas. Joseruine Reppina G 5
Auzert Si1ers N
Edison Mfg.
CSTANE STRAUBEN MULLER
tss Evancening E, WHITNry
Co.,
73 Lakeside Ave.,:
Dear Sirs:~
Oran Ne. Je
range, Ja
The Board wishes to bring to the attention of
COMMITTEE ON
Auszat Suzexs,
Micttage M, Davis, Jn,
foserh I, Darsconn
Mitton Gosporrer
Wa M. McKenzie
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G. A. Prosser
Mrs, Joszeuinz Reopine
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE,
Micuaet M, Davis, Ja., Chairman
Howaan_Branstreet
Ratrit Forxs
Tuomas L. McCutxrock
Mrs, Aucusta Prescott
Mas. Joserutve Reopina
Avpert Sitvers
OFFICERS
Joun Cottier, General Secretary
Faapertck N. Cooke, Jr., Executive Secretary
Waxter Storey, Censorship Secretary
‘Phone, 3843 Chelsea
- SJovember 11, 1909.
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the monufacturers the advisability of having some mark placed
upon all films passed by this Board, in order to insure the
more ready acceptance of such films in cities where there is
more or less local supervision.
When the Censorship was first instituted some
films were made up with a mark showing the approval of the
Censorship Board.
This was to be attached as a leader to
each picture, but the use of it was discontinued as there
seemed to be no protection against an irresponsible person
from detaching this film and reataching it to any partioular
picture that he wished, thereby bringing great discredit up-
on the judgement of the Board.
In view of the fact that at
the present time it seems desirable to have some mark upon
the pictures passed, the following plan is proposed for the
consideration of the manufacturers.
A gummed label of very thin, tough paper to be
printed, stating the fact that the film had been passed by
the Board of Censorship, and, if desired, containing the name
of the manufacturer.
This would be attached to the film on
the first title picture and then perforated with either some
device such as a star or the initials of the manufacturer
or importers
name.»
projecting machine.
By the device of having this label attached to
The label being on very thin paper would
not interfere with the free running of the film through the
the film containing the title, and in addition being ocancell-
ea by the perforations, it would be impossible to use the
nes Dosen
iabel on any other film. Of course the use of the label
would be optional with the manufacturer. What we wish to
', Kmow is if there is any objection to authorizing the use of
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such labels for those who care to use them.
Very truly yours,
NATIONAL BOARD OF CENSORSHIP.
hla Maloy,
Censorship Secretary.
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CASS Arya
AMERICAN MUTOSCOPE AND BIOGRAPH COMPANY’;
WE. FOURTEENTH ST..NEW YORK,NY. Xe 4
/ November 12,..1909,
oo oufpey:
On the 8th instant, I reoevived your letter of the
6th instant, and regret that this is my first opportunity to
reply.
I objected to the letter that the Board of Censorship
wrote to the Luenmmle Company, as a manufacturer, and not as an
officer of tho Motion Pleture Patents Company.
It uppeary to me that the Motion Picture Patents
Company is not in any way interested in my action in not
submitting the flims of the Biopraph Company to the Board of
Consors, except in so far as my action interferes with its
desire to encourage the censoring of films and the improvement
of subjects to the greatest oxtent.
As you do not appear to be able to say what the
course of tho Board will be in the future, further discussion
veems %o be unnecessary, In the meantime, fdimy of the
Biograph Company will not be submitted to the Beard to be
censored, and the userp of our films will receive due notice
of the fact.
Reepeotfully
President.
MR. JOHN COLLIGR, General Secretary,
Nationul Board of Censorship,
96 WINTH AVENUR, NEW YORK CIvy,
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Nov. 15,1909,
THIG LETTER BEING SENT TO ALL LICENSED MANUFACTURERS.
Mr. J. J. Kennedy,
ofo Biograph Company,
11 Bast 14th street,
New York, N.Y.
Dear Mr. Kennedy:
ir. Charles Sprague Smith, the Director
of the Peoples! Institute, which is responuible for the
Censorship Committee, has requested an interview in reforence
to the prevent and future relotions between the Licensed Mane
ufacturers und the Censorship Committee. Mr, Smith will be
at the Patents Gaupangta office on Tucsday, November 16th,
at 4 o'clock, and I believe it advisable that ap many of the
Licensed tHlanufacturers an is possible be there to discuss
the situation with him. I alno think it advisable to have
a meeting of as many of the Manufacturers as possible short»
ly after 3 o'clock on that day to discuss the situation before
we meet Mr. Smith. If you cannot be present or send w repre-
sentative, I would suggest that you express your views in
writing us to what attitude should be taken by the Manufacture :
ers to the Censorship Committee, and whether we should cut off
#2 ir. J. J. Kermedy.
all relations with this Committee or merely have them confined
their activities to either passing or rejecting certain pic
tures without comment.
Yours very truly,
Vice-President.
14, fF — Consws Ap
AMERICAN MUTOSCOPE AND BIOGRAPH COMPANY
at 11 E. FOURTEENTH ST.NEW YORK,NY.
S | November 15, 1909,
FRANK L. DYER, ESQ., Vice President,
Edison Manufacturing Company, ih
NOV te ug
Fivivn Loe
ORANGE, N. J,
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Dear Mr. Dyer:
Your letter of the 13th instant, relative to the
licensed manufacturers meeting Mr. Smith of the Peoples!
Institute tomorrow afternoon, has been received and has had
careful consideration.
It is our opinion that the censoring of film
subjects is very desirable and very probably necessary under
existing conditions.
Tt is also our opinion that a number of those who
have taken leading parts in the censoring of film in
connection with the Peoples! Institute, have not fully
realized the importance and seriousness of the duties that
they undertook to perform.
The producing and marketing of film is an industry
of too great importance, both commercially and in its relation
to the public welfare, to be subject to those who, after being
afforded every facility to accomplish the good work that they
set out to do, now assume an attitude of controlling or
dominating the business.
Under existing conditions, we do not think it
FRANK L. DYER, ESQ. “R26
advisable to be represented at the manufacturers' meeting
tomorrow or to meet Mr. Smith.
It is not within our province to teli the Board
of Censorship how to censor films, as censoring is its work,
and we will not submit any of our films to be censored unless
the activities of the censors are confined within proper
limits.
Respectfully,
BIOGRAPH COMPANY,
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Nov. 17, 1909.
Charles Sprague Gmith, Esq., ‘
318 Hast 15th Street,
New York, N.Y.
Hy dear Gir:-
donriening the understanding arrived at
in the conference held yesterday between several of the
Hanufacturers of Licensed Motion Pictures, and yourself,
and speaking for all of the Licensed Manufacturers operat-
ing under a license from the Motion Picture Patents Come
pany, except the Blograph Company, these Manufacturers
will undoubtedly be willing to continue submitting, their
films ta a Board of Censors acting under the supervision
of the Peoples’ Institute, provided the Peoples! Institute \
will insure that hereafter the work of the Censorship
Committee shall be confined wholly to either rejecting a
picture or suggesting changes in it whion they believe
advisable, without any conments whatever that can be used
as advertising, and preferably without any conment whatever
on any picture, except such as are adverse to the picture,
It should al'so be further understood that neither this
#2 Churles Sprague Smith, Esq.
Censorship Committee nor any of its mombers shall give
out statements or interviews or publish articles whioh
will give the public the impression that the Censorship
Committee isn influenoing or directing the MNonufacturers
in any way in regard to the kind of pictures, or method
of treatment thereo?, which are being made by them, The
Manufacturers should also be assured that the Committee
will be made up of persons, each one of whom shall take
his work seriously and not consider the film inspection
meetings of the Committee as a kind of entertainment
provided for them at which light and frivolous remarks
concerning the pictures are in order. This last, I
understand, is not true of all of the present members
of the Committee,
if you are willing to agree that the work of
the Committee shall be confined to the }ines indicated
above, I will bo pleased to send copies of your letter
to that effect to the various Manufacturers, and I am
eure that the former relations with the Consorship
Committee will be resumed by the Licensed Nanufacturers.
Yours very truly,
GFS/ARK. Vice-Fresident-EDISON MANUFACTURING CO.
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a _ THE PEOPLE’S INSTITUTE
318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
NEW YORK
CHARLES SPRAGUE SMITH, MANAGING DinecToR HOWARD MANSFIELD, CHAIRMAN BOARD OF TRUSTEES
Vv. EVERIT MACY, TREASURER
TELEPHONE 2411 STUYVESANT MICHAEL M. DAVIS, JR, SECRETANY
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Orange, I. J. SO
Uy dear Mr. Dyer:~
I have sent. you a formal communication in answer to
your letter of Wednesday, und I want to add a personal line.
It seems to me that it will be of importance for both
parties to the agreement to have occ:.sional meetings when we
can talk over matters and forestall any possible misunderstand
ing. Will it not be agreeablefor you, or for some one in
full authority, to lunch with me once a fortnight, or once a
month, at the Century Club, or I can go over and lunch with
you, and at such times we can talk over matters of mutual con-
cern.
Sincerely,
/
“CHARLES SPRAGUE SMITH, MANAGING DIRECTOR
TELEPHONE 241) STUYVESANT
THE PEOPLE’S INSTITUTE
318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
NEW YORK
HOWARD MANSFIELD, CHAIRMAN BOARD oF TauSTAeES
Vv. EVERIT MACY, TREASURER
MICHAEL M. DAVIS, Ja, SECARTANY
wee.
av / meine
ir, Frank L. Dyer,
joven ex 19, 1909.
Vice President EHdison Mfg. Company, Orange, Ne J.
Dear Sir:- ,
our discussion on Tuesday covered two points, and
these are brought forward again in your communication of the
L7th. Upon these we reached agreement.
First, that the work of "the censorship committee
shall he confined wholiy to either rejecting a picture or
suggesting changes in it which they believe aavdwarne and
without any commmts whatever that can be used as advertising,
preferably without any conments whatever on any picture except
such as are adverse to the picture" To this I fully assent.
is
The second point touched the question of the attitude
of the censorship comnittee, or some of its members, which was
criticised as in some instances not serious enough.
It became plain through our conversation that the
chief members of the censorship group were not open to this
criticism and whatever justification therefor had existed
was one due rather to thouchtlessness than to any intention
to regard lightly the importance of the work, or the interest
of the manufacturers, and a suggestion to members of the con-
mittee, which will be given, that objection in certain quare
ters hes been made, will suffice to obviate any basis for
criticism in the future.
~~
CHARLES SPRAGUE SMITH, MANAGING DIRECTOR
THE PEOPLE’S INSTITUTE
318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
NEW YORK
HOWARD MANSFIELD, CHAIRMAN BOARD or TAUSTEES
Vv. EVERIT MACY, TREASURER
TELEPHONE 2411 STUYVESANT MICHAEL M. DAVIS, Jk, SECRETARY
“Qe
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With regard to the third point, which was not
brought up at our discussion, that no rember of the censorship
committee inert Give out a statement which should convey "the
he
impression that censorship is influencing or directing the man-
ufacturers in any vay in regard to the kind of pictures or
method of treatment thereof, which are being made by them".
Here, I think we should come a clear mutual understanding.
, It is obvious upon the side of the manufacturers
that the censorship comnittee must not be placed before the
public in the attitude of directing in any sense the work of
the patents! Company, and this is entirely agreed to. On
the other hand, it must be equally clear that for the advantage
of the Patents Company, as of the censorship itself, it is
essential that the censorship shall have full authority to pub-
lish abroed that it is passing upon the films manufactured by
the company, approving or rejecting. .
Through such publicity, the creation of local cen-
sorships is forestalled, and censorships, already etablished,
are brought to recognise and accept the verdict of the central
body established here, and co-operating with the manufacturers.
I believe, thus, that we are entirely of accord in
regard to the points raised.
I wish to further stress the importance of close
co-operation in the near future, as I did at our interview.
. J
THE PEOPLE’S INSTITUTE
318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
NEW YORK
CHARLES SPRAGUE SMITH, MANAGING DIRECTOR HOWARD MANSFIELD, CHAIRMAN BOARD or TAUSTEES
Vv. EVERIT MACY, TREASURER
TELEPHONE 2411 STUYVESANT MICHAEL M. DAVIS, JR, SECRETARY
Pe Tre nn. . Oe .
The larger work lies ahead; the informing of the higher cir.
cles in education, the church, and elsewhere of the possibil-
ities of the motion picture in the field of instruction and
uplift, thus opening new and important spheres of activity and
output for the filn. Also the further important point
that in the field of legislation cO~operation, in order to
forestall hostile, and promote favorable state and civic ors
dinances, is important.
A final word in regard to the Biograph Company. The
Patents Company is-ineclusive of @ number of companies, includ.
ing the Phograph. In censoring for the Patents Company, as
such, the scope nvust be all inclusive. If the Biograph be
not included, then the censorship stands not for the Patents
Company, but for the several manufacturers, who accept and
aprrove of it.
I shall be glad to have a full understanding with
the Biograph Company so that we may know whether from now on
we are t® cengor for the patents Company, or only for all the
uanufacturers thereunder, excluding the Biograph.
Sincerely,
Hov. 23,1909,
lir. Charles Sprague Smith,
: o/‘o Leoples Institute,
$18 Vast 15th Street,
Siew York, a.Y.
ky dear Sire
Your communication of the 19th inst. has
been received, and I have Torwarded copies cf it to the
several Licensed Manufacturers with tine suggestion that
if your statement meets their views of the case, they
should so inform me, so that I can communicate that fact
to you, and ot the same time they can resume sending
in their films to be censored.
I believe that your letter covers all the points
raised by us, though 1 think you should be informed that
the consoring is done not for the Patents Company as such,
but for the individual manufacturers. The Patents Company
is not in ony way interested in the manutinoture of film
by its licensees and has merely provided a room in which
the censoring of film can be dom for the convenienae of
such licensees. ‘The censoring of pictures is an individue
al matter with each manufacturer. It will be necessary,
#2 Mr. Chas. Sprague Smith.
therefore, for you to take the matter up separately
with the Biograph Company, if that Company does not
submit ite pictures te the Censorship Committee.
Yours very truly,
GES/ ARK. Vice-President,
Nov. 23,1909,
ir. Charles Sprague Smith,
c/o Peoples Institute,
218 Nast 15th Street,
New York, N.Y.
ly dear §irs-
Your suggestion in reference to meeting
you occasionally to discuss matters is a very good one,
and I shall be very glad either to take luneh with you
myself, or have some influential minufecturer do BO,
so that we can keep in touch with each other,
Yours very truly,
GFS/ARK. Vice-President.
THE PEOPLE’S INSTITUTE
316 EAST FIFTEENTH STREET
NEW YORK
CHAALES SPRAGUE SMITH, MANAGING DIRECTON HOWARD MANSFIELD, CHAIRMAN BOARD OF ThusTers
Vv. EVERIT MACY, Tacacurncr
TELEPHONE, 2411 STUYVESANT MICHAEL M. DAVIS, Jr., SECnetany
Nov. 24th, 1909.
Mr. Frank L, Dyer,
Vice-Fres,. Bai son MPg. Co.,
Orange, BN. Je
Dear Sir:-
Your communication of the 24rd at hand. I shall -be
glad to hava xvord from upon the receipt of report from the various
manufacturers at sn early date so that the interruption to the
work of censoring muy be as brief as possible.
In regard to the sxplanation touching the Patents Co.,
the situation will be presented in a clearer fashion hereafter
tin: any statements made by the censoring committee. Hitherto,
it hes been stated that the committee was censoring for the Tatents
Co; a more accurate statement is that it is censoring for the
several manufacturers who together constitute the Patents Co,
rather than for the Patents Co. as such, :
I shall deley communication with the Biograph Co.
until after I have received word from you touching the replies
from the other companies. If you have communicated with the
Biograph Co simultaneously with the other companies, kindly let
me know, .
Believe me to be,
/ Faithfully yours,
KALEM COMPANY, co) as "25" aun
Manufacturers of Western Union Code
MOVING PICTURE FILMS Cable Address, KALEM
Licensed under all patents of the Motion Picture Patents Company
235-239 West 23d STREET
Eastman Kodak Building
Telephone, 223 Chebea
NEW YORK, Nov 24, 1909.
Mr. George F. Scull,
Orange, N. J.
Dear Sir:-
We have yours of the 33rd together with carbon conics of
Mr. Dyer's recent correspondence with Charles Sprague Smith for
which please accept thanks. Ye are of the opinion that the censor-
ship should be resumed along the lines laid down by Mr. Dyer and
agrecd to by Mr. Smith.
Yours very truly,
‘Kalem Co.
By ee ee oe
CABLE AODRESS LOCAL. AND LONG DISTANCE
LUBIN, PHILADELPHIA TELEPHONE CONNECTIONS
ne oar 3
Lubin Manufacturing Compas
MANUFACTURERS OF
MOVING PICTURE MACHINES AND FILMS,
926-928 MARKET STREET,
PHILADELPHIA,pa,, November
Twenty fourth
1909.
Ta hak.
KRECSIVEL
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te Fy SOULE,
The Edison Mfg. Co.,
Orange, N. d.
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My dear Mr. Dyer:
We voice your opinion that the Censorship
Board conducted along the line that you have suggested,
would be ok., and think it would be a benefit to the
trade in general.
Very truly vours,
AMERICAN MUTOSCOPE AND BIOGRAPH COMPANY
WE. FOURTEENTH ST..NEW YORK,N.Y,
November 27, 1909.
GEORGE F. SCULL, ESQ.,
Edison Manufacturing Company,
ORANGE, N. J.
Dear Mr. Scull:
Your letter of the 23rd instant, accompanied by
copies of letters between Mr. Dyer and Mr. Smith of the Peoples!
Institute, was duly received. ‘
The Biograph Company has its own dispute with the
so-called Board of Censors, and it intends to settle this
dispute itself and in its own way.
It will therefore not unite with the other
manufacturers in accepting the services of the Censors as
outlined in the correspondence that accompanied your letter.
I thank you for the information that you sent me.
Sincerely yours,
Nov. 30,1909,
My. Charles Sprague Smith,
o/o The Peoples Institute,
318 East 15th Street,
N.Y.C.
My dear Sirt-
Mr. Dyer duly received your two letters of
the 24th inst. The matter of the Censorship will be taken
up at a meeting of the Manufacturers which will be held on
Thursday next, and Mr. Dyer will communicate to you the
result thereof.
The Blograph Company have been informed of
the correspondence between lr. Dyer and yourself, but they
hove expressed a feeling that they wish to settle the dis
Bc amet ge l.
pute between the Censorship Committee é Hons iselves direoct-
ly, and it may be well for you to take up the matter person-
ally with Mr. Kennedy, thePresident of that Company.
Yours very truly,
GFS /ARK. . Assistant to Vice-President.
TELEPHONE 2411 STUYVESANT
THE PEOPLE’S INSTITUTE
DEPARTMENT OF DRAMA AND Music
318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
EW YORK
N
PREDERICK C. PATTERSON, SecreTany A) n) wae Lenhart nee bt ens
. : Dec. 1st, 1909.
Mr. Frank Dyer,
Edison Mfg. Co.,
Orange, IN. d.
My dear Mr. Dyer,
As the one responsible for the reorganization
of the Censorship committee, and as the one who has brought
into association with it, a goodly number of the prominent
men of this town, I feel it essential that I showR know
speedily what decision the various constituent members of the
Patent Company have reached, sas the days are passing und films
are being ‘issued without censorshir. Furthermore, as I have stated
in my last letter, we are employing secretaries and stenographers,
and the financial agreement made six months ago has not been
fulfilled in so far as the month just eading is concerned. I em
not mentioning what is to be expected from now on. After our
last interview, I understood that everything had been cleared up,
that the financial arrangement would offer no aifficulty and thet
the Censorship department would proceed with no interruption,
Such has not been the case, and I am compelled by my
responsibility towards my associates to find out where we stand
so as to take the action necessary in the premises.
Yours sincerely,
‘
Mr, Charles Sprague Smith,
318 Rast 15th treet,
New York, N.Y.
Dec. 3,1909.
My dear Sir:e-
Uy. Dyer directs me to say that ata
meeting held yesterday of the Manufacturers licensed
by the Motion Picture Patents Company, it was generally
agreed that the adjustment of the differences between
the Censorship Board and the Licensed Manufacturers
wes satiefuotory so far as it had gone, but that the
Manufacturers believed it desirable that you should
adjust the srievances of the Biograph Company before
the Licensed Manufacturers resumed their relations
with the Board.
Yours very truly,
GPR/ARK Assistant to Vice-President.
1 erm t Pini gee One cree tT ere tom
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THE PEOPLE’S INSTITUTE
oe 318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
NEW YORK
CHARLES SPRAGUE SMITH, MANAGING DIRECTOR V. EVERIT MACY, TREASURER
FRANCIS R, MASTERS, SECRETARY
December 4, 1909.
TELEPHONE 2411 STUYVESANT 4 2 |
Iv. Frank I. Dyer,
Vice-President and General Counsel
Edison Manufacturing Co.,
Orange, MN. J.
Hy dear Mr. Dyer:
I have the communication of yesterday from your
assistant.
According to an earlier letter, I understood that the Patents
Company,as such, had not entered into relations with the Board of
Censorship, but that the constituent members, each as an individual,
hed done so. It now appears that the constituent members, save the
Biograph, are waiting upon the action of the latter before determining
their own line of conduct. I can understand that ea sense of comrade-~
ship and association should bring this about, but on the other hand,
you will recognize that men and women, occupying the positions of
public trust held by those on our general and executive committees,
are altogether unready to stand longer in the uncertain position
before the public which they now occupy. Their good nane goes with the
voucher they have given for all the films manufactured by the Patents
Company, and for more than a fortnight no films, or only those of the
Pathe Co., have been inspected.
I cannot hold up action on their part longer, in the sense of
general notification being given to the country and to the local censor.
ships who are now accepting our verdict, that the members of the
Patents Company are no Longer submitting their films to us. I enclose
copy of a letter sent to kr. Je de Kennedy.
Ud. d Sincerely yours, é ‘
ae SERB chon byl essere Boe poop Ie
[ENCLOSURE]
THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
‘ 318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
NEW YORK
CHARLES SPRAGUE smith, MANAGING DIRECTOR Vv. EVERIT MACY, Treasuaen 7
}< FRANGIS R. MASTERS, SECRETARY FA
TELEPHONE 2411 STUYVESANT n
(Copy. ) December 4, 1909,
Dear Sir:
I enclose copy of a letter just received from the assistant
of Mr. Dyer.
I have tried to get you on the ‘phone, but without eveil.
take it for granted you are aware of all the correspondence that hag
Passed between the Patents Company and myself? and also as to the oral
discussion. 1 am going to ask you to get me on the "phone at the
earliest possible nonent. ,
The members of our general and executive committees hold
positions of trust and eminence in thig community. Among the memberg :
of the Board of Censorship are the Superintendent of the Public Schools, .
Dr. Maxwell, two of hig assistants named by hin and others like Mrg,
Reading, active in journaliom, You will readily understand that these -!
men ani women are unwilling that there should be longer uncertainty
asp to the course of procedure, Their 600d name is going with the ‘y
films manufactured and distributed by the various members of the a
Patents Company and this is now taking place without sueh films having 7
been passed upon, I cannot hold back. their action any longer. i.
Indeed, they would have becn ready to act ere this, if I had not:
advised, urgently, delay, in order that a Work. s0 beneficial to, the
public,and to the manufacturers also, should not be interrupted.
I enclose copy of a letter sent to ‘lr. Dyer,
Sincerely yours, : bi
(Signed) Charleg Sprague Smith. 4
Tour. tT Kennedy -
c/o Notion bioture Patents Co., &:
80 Pifth Avenue, New York City, . i
I must have a definite answer by Wednesday. (Sd) Charles Sprague Smith:
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THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
‘ NEW YORK
CHARLES SPRAGUE SMITH, MANAGING DIRECTOR Vv. EVERIT MACY, TAEASURER
P FRANGIS R. MASTERS, SECRETARY
TELEPHONE 2411 STUYVESANT | "
7) Dec. 9, 1909.
Mr. Frank L. Dyer,
Edison M'f'g. Co.,
Orange, N. J.. {
Dear sir: \
I went over matters of mutual interest with
Mr. Kennedy the day before yesterday, and we reached a
full agreement. .
. I hope the carrying out of o ur understanding
in the shape of our renewing the Censorship work and con-
tinuing om the old basis will ve effected immediately, as
naturally, my comnittees are impatient with their present
equivocal standing before the public.
I have suggested to Mr. Kennedy, that if necessary,
we meet on Saturday afternoon or on Monday morning, to
clear up anything that still remains.I mean the represent-
atives of the manufacturers and myself.
Faithfully yours,
fact rman Wek,
V7?
Mr. Charles Sprague Smith,
The People's Institute,
$18 BH. 15th St., New York.
December 10, 1909,
My dear Sir:
Yours of the 7th inst. haa been received, and I am glad
to hear that you and Mr. Kennedy have reached a full agreement.
I am therefore wd ting the varinas manufacturers tonight, advising
them that the censorship will be’ renewed, and I imagine the next
meeting WILL be held. on Thursday, the 16th inst.
So far as concerns the renewel of the. arrangement for wa defi~
nite period, I find that there is a disposition on the part of some
of the manufacturers to oppose this arrangement, and. I therefore
believe it would be better to let the matter run on from nouth to
month, giving either side the option of discontinuing it on two
weeks notice. I think we both feel that a formal contract is hard-
ly necessary, because bf any substantial number of the manufac turers
wished to withdraw from the arrangement they could do SO. To
insist that the various manufacturers should enter into a formal
agreement in writing to continue the censorship for a definite
period would, I am afraid, precipitate a great deal of discussion
which I think should be avoided.
Yours very truly,
FLD/IWY ss '' ° President.
=
THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE
318 EAST FIFTEENTH ST.
NEW YORK
GHARLES SPRAGUE SMITH, MANAGING DIRECTOR Vv. EVERIT MACY, TREASURER
FRANCIS RAR. MASTERS, SECRETARY
TELEPHONE 2411 STUYVESANT
y
December 11, 1909.
ii
Mr. Frank IL. Dyer, \ ie :
a4 tft, : us ;
Hdison M'ftg. Co., ee w“
Orm ge, N. J.. y
wv
My dear Mr. Dyer:
It is essential that I meet,at onee, with
men who are empowered to act for the different man-
ufacturers, and reach a definite settlement.
Our Covmittees are becoming impatient.
The monthly payment for last month, November, due,
according to our mutual agreement on the first of
the month, is still in default, and a financial un-
derstanding for the future, of some kind, must be
reached. : :
As I had made no otner arrangements to
secure funds,-relying upon te fulfillment of the
agreement ,-and the treasury is empty, I have order-
ed vacated the rooms occupied by the Censorship,
transferred the office here, and am holding things
in suspense.
Kindly commnicate with me over the -'phore ,
as I am calling a meeting of the Governing Commit-
tee for an carly date this week, and,unyuestionably,
they will insist upon a speedy decision that shall
enable them to know where they stand, financially, .
as well as right them before the community in the
matter of Censorship.
As to further agreements, I don't care to-.
make tem at long distance, nor of such a nature tha t
they can be broken from one day to another. We
need to talk them out and then either write them
out, or put. them in such shape that the honor of both
parties is bound,
I think you will agree With me .in all this.
Sincerely,
Bae Jone
1909. Motion Pictures - Experimental (D-09-36)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
technical development of films, cameras, and projectors. Included are items
pertaining to the experimental work on color photography contracted to Charles
L. Brasseur, the testing of film stock developed by the Eastman Kodak Co. and
the Lumiére Co., and the evaluation of improvements submitted to the Edison
Manufacturing Co. by outsiders, including the Pathe Co., John H. Crosier,
Hubert Meredith-Jones, and Charles M. Mapes. Among the correspondents are
Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; George F. Scull,
assistant to the vice president; and Horace G. Plimpton, manager of negative
production in the Kinetograph Department.
Approximately 50 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include correspondence regarding improvements that the
Edison Manufacturing Co. declined to pursue, as well as items that duplicate
information in selected material.
1909. MP FD
ke Jan. 3, 1909,
a
Mr. Charles 1. Brasseur,
116 Urenmont Avenue,
Grange, Ned.
My dear Sir:-
This will introduce to you ir. Willard
Green, un expert photographer in the employ of Hr. Edison.
I have had a talk with Mr. Green in reference to the diff.
ieulties in color photography, and it struck me that posse
ibly some of the difficulties which ir. Green sees in such
processes generally may be involved in your own scheme,
and 1 wish that you would explain to Mr. Green, for ay
benefit, your process, and particularly how you intend to
overcome the difficulties which Mr. Green informs me are
inherent in most color photography schemes. in other
words, I wish that you would frankly answer any questions
which Mr. Green may ask you about your process, so that I
can be in « position to determine whether or not we oan
see sufficient hope in it to continue with your experiments.
Yours very truly,’
\
GPS/ARK. Vice-President.
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CHARLES L, BRASSEUR é
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Frank L. Dyer, Esq, 3
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Jan. 15, 1909.
Orangs, N. Je
My dear Mr. Dyer:-=
It will be necessary to decide, within a very short
time, who is going to undertake to make up the photographic
emulsion for my color samples. The reasons for this I will try
to make clear. .
As you probably know, all photosraphic emulsions are not
fit for color sensitizing: one emulsion will work well with one
sensitizer . while another will fog with the sauce ‘sensitiger .
and as different sensitizers do not affect the different colors
in the same way, it follows that the colors employed on the
negative screen vary somewhat with the sensitiser enployede
For instance, supposing that to correctly reproduce colors,you
need at C of the spectrum a density of say 2, aid at Da density
of say 3, and that you find that the sensitizer employed in the
emulsion is so sensitive at D, that the silver density will be
5 instead of 3, it will be necessary to modify the color so as
to reduce the absorption at this partioular point. What is
true for that color is so for theentire spectrum. Moreover,
an increase of the sensitiveness of the emulsion does not neces-
sarily mean the same proportional increase of sensitiveness for
all the colors. Of course, I employ compensating screens in my
lens, by méans of which I can make corrections quite sufficient
LABORATORY OF
CHARLES L, BRASSEUR
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ORANGE, N. J.
Pp. Le. D #2.
for the changes which occur in a given emulsion, and also, to
équalize the changes in the quality of the light, but it is well
to start out with some standard.
Personally, I had intended asking Cramer of St. Louis to
do this sand have been experimenting with his plates. He is a
very scientific man » has had large experience, and is not in the
trust, but of course, if you prefer asking the Eastman Co., then,
I presume the Seed Co. of St. Louis, will be the one to do it, as
they alone of the Trust Compsnies, turn out zood wlor plates.
Of all things, I want to guard against a repetition of my experience
in France. There,I was prowised emulsions and delayed and delay-
ed wonth after month while thoy were experimenting on their own
account.
As to the necessity of getting at this soon, you inust
understand that I cut up only stained films, as a color can be
readily measured when a large surface is employed, but this cannot
be done with -anything Like the same accuracy when the dyeing is
done after ths material has been cut up. In fact to determine
the colors and the sensitiveness of the emulsion, the test had
better be made with films of one color. These colors are now
ready; all have been tested for their light resistance to the are
light in actual working conditions; none have been kept which
have shown the least change when passed through the lantern 1000
times, each exposure being 1/16 second. It may interest you to
know that only a little more than 50% of the colors submitted (272)
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have stood this test.
As to other matters; the machine has been entirely re-
built and will be delivered to us on Monday. We had to do this
aS apparently the only cause of the preaxing of tie thread and there
fore the entangleuent of the machine was due to a slight eccentric
ity in the cutters, which moant that one pert of tna film would
be cut and pulled a minute faction or an inch ahead of the other.
Apsolutsly, of vourse, this is inevitable; a certain play of the
parts must we allowed, else the cutters cannot be mounted, but we
a
a)
ave had tre shafts ground to the 1/10000 inch; the cutters and
every part have been made over with Like accuracy. Moreover,
® <rinding attachment has pean nace by which 211 cutters will be
ground sinulteneously after ocing mounted on the shaft. The next
thing is to attach a paraffinines machine, so us to make a solid
sheet of threads, as the latter come from the machine, and then
cut uo these sheets transversely. We have beon studying this up
and will take it up further as soon as the machine is in.
As to the new lantern, the purvose of which is to obtain
&® larger anount of light without increasing the amount of current
consumed, this is well underway; the lamp is ready and TI have
been promised the lenses this woek. TI hope there will be but
Little delay here.
As to the contact prints I have praised you, you will
nave these in the next few days. My original arrangement was
ratherprimitive and it was difficult to obtain great accuracy. TI
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have a newons finished today; new and very luminous screens have
been made and while it is difficult to adjust olors when ths
only examination you can make is on grains of very small diameters
still, I au satisfied that the result will amply meet your expac~
tations.
Kindly let me know your opinion in regard to the above
and oplige
Yours very truly,
Form $49
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY. , —p
- 1904
Jan, 20, 1909. °
Charlas I, Brasseur, Taq. ,
. , Orange, HV. ce
My dear Mr, Brasseur:
Thank you very much for your interesting
report of Jan. L5th. Exactly what'is it that you wish to have
Cramer of St. Louis do for you? Is he to mike the complete film
or simply buv the celluloid atrips and. apply the emulsion to?
“T wish before doting amthing finally in this mat ter you would let
me know in #& general vay what the Cost. wi11 be,
1
Yours very truly,
/
Fun /Tww on Vice-President,
N WY D
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Dear Mr. Dyer:-
I liave read with interest the article you sent me
ontitled "Animated Pictures in Colors," As far as I can see
it relates to the same process about which I wrote you on August
the 10th of last year. I take this occasion to return the
letter of that date as well as the patent describing a similar
process by Messrs Lee & Turner.
the method, whatever it is, calls for at least double
the longth of film used in my own, as there are thirty-two pic-
tures taken ver second and moreover it calls for an addition
to the projection apparatus. the one very interesting point
as far as I an concerned, ‘is that the reds were photographed in
an exceedingly short period of time, less than one-half of? the
time which I will have at my disposal,
As to the two-color phase of ‘this question, I fear that
to coment on such garbled reports as newspaper men are capable
of maicing , would be an injustice to Mr. Smith. All I imow of the
two-color process is, that some years ago I saw some two-color
lantern slides made, if my memory serves me rignot, by a Mr.Smith
of Zurich, I do not lnow whether this is the same party or not,
but the examples shown were pure charlatanisn,. A landscape was
reproduced by means of a yellow and a blue print, the yellow and
blue making; the green trees, and the blue , the sky and the refleo-
tions in the water. The whites were, of course, white. That
LABORATORY OF
CHARLES L, BRASSEUR
116 TREMONT AVENUE
ORANGE, N. J,
PoL.D. #2.
is not natural color-photogranphy. In this case the red seems:.
to have been reproduced, which would indicate that another color
has been used. the statenent attributed to lr. Sinith that
"three was not necessarily a magic number" is true in one sense
of the word. the experiments of Young, of Helitidliz, of Maxwell,
of Abney and the practical application of these experiments to
‘the
color-photography by Mr. Ives and myself have shovm three: sensation
>
‘te theory to ve a hard physiolopical fact. But if Hr. Smith's
statement, that you can make white by projecting two colors im-
plies that you can make all colors by a mixture of two colors ‘
then, that is decidedly magic. It is of course possible to
make white with two colors, for instance, a purple and a green
make white; a red and cyan blue make white; a:yellév 2nd a blue
make white, but in all these cases use is made of one primary
color and one binary, i.e. a purple. and a green really means
a red plus blue, making ‘purple and a green which accounts for the
three primary colors. It might~be, and this is only a conjec-
ture on my part, that Mr. Smith photographs through two filters,
the reddish orange and the green and depends on an excessively
short exposure without any filter to obtain the blue. As you
know, every ordinary photograph is only a record of the blue and
violet rays. Even ih that case it would be necessary to make the
projection through the two red and green filters and the third
photograph which had been taken without a filter would have to be
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CHARLES L.“BRASSEUR
116 TREMONT AVENUE
ORANGE, N. J.
P.L.D. 73.
projected through a blue filter, T believe this conjecture of
mine is not very far wrong. As soonlas I can find time, I will
Look up the technical papers to see if I cannot get more pre-
cise information and will commminicate to you whatever I find of
importance.
I regret I cannot give you infornsation more to the point
and remain
Yours very truly,
Ske Vllident
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[ENCLOSURE]
PHYSICAL LABORATORY
CHARLES L. BRASSEUR
ACIS = om STRTET,
Orange, N. Js august 10, 1908.
AREY Yor, 190
dear Mr. Dyer:-
My attention has been called to some newspaper articles
relating to the swith process of color-photography as applied to
moving pictures, If I understand it correctly , the photographs
are made through alternate discs of red, green and blue sorsens;
the color record of each color photograph consisting of three suc-
cessive black and white photographs on a continuous film. It
follows that,theoretically, the color film would be three times as
long as thet which I am now working on, that is, instead of a 400
ft. film, a 1200 ft. film would be required. Practically, I do
not think that the increase of length would be as great as this,
as there is a psychological factor which it is impossible to de-
tormine except by experiment, The projection of the picture is
made in a special machine having revolving discs alternately red, é
green and blue and through which the colorless photographs are 4
projected.
Now, as far back as 1901,I published in the Journal of
Photography of Great Britian, the fact that all the colors of the
spectrum could reproduced by successively presenting to the eye
different proportions of red, green and blue in order to obtain
all the colors of the spectrum, and it may interest you to know
thta, since I have been here, I have made up a spectrum on film by
—
that method intending to show it to you when you called on me as
Mr Wilson had announced, What Iam driving at is this, that I
can without "poaching on Mr. Smith's preserves" make up a film
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PHYSICAL LABORATORY
ilaoatihatr
CHARLES L. BRASSEUR
10 EAST 16TH STREET,
jae. Yon
New York, ; 190
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dn which the alternate pictures would be backed by a red, green
and blue film as shownon the accompanying sketch and which would
have the advantage of its beiny possible to use it on the present
macnine without any change whatsoever in the machine. Instead of
being a colorless picture, as Mr. Smith's is, the pictures will
be alternately red, green and blue and there would ve no revolving
disc to complicate the mechanism of the machine. In fact, many
variations of this idea can be readily imagined. The picture can
be made in broad alternate stripes of red, green and blue, the ohne
necessary factor being, that,on three successive pictures the red,
green and blue stripes shall be directly one over the other.
I'believe a patent could be secured for this,in view of
my former work,without mach trouble. I do not believe that it is
by any means worth the process I am now working on. The latter
has the advantage that the film is of the same length as the black
and white, and that the red exposure is the same as that of the
entire picture, While on Mr. Smith's the red exposure is much
Less, necessitating therefore very fine weather in which to do it,
Kindly consider the matter and when you have time I will
call on you, or what would please me very much better have you
call on me and have you see the laboratory,
I remain,
Yours a truly,
Che C Woes.
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PHYSICAL LABORATORY
CHARLES t, BRASSEUR
NEW YORK,
New York, 190
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February 15, 1909.
Mr. Dyer:
Referring to the eholoned letter from Mr. Brasseur relat-
ing to colored moving pictures, Mr. Brasseur states that the process
in the article entitled "Animated Pictures in Colors" apparently
relates to the same process about which he wrote you last August.
That process was the one in which the phenomenon of persistence of
vision was made use of to mingle the three primary colors together
to produce the effect of the natural colors, i filed an application
for Mr. Edison on this subject August 13, 1908, in which i referred
to the possibility of using the modification proposed by Mr. Brasseur
namely, to color the films themselves in some way, instead of using
a colored shutter. .
There i8 apparently nothing in this broadly, but if a
number of people are considering the process as commercially feasible
for moving pictures, it would be well to take out patents on any
specific improvements or specific devices connected with the process
that Mr. Brasseur or any one else might think of,
ps/Js
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I an sending you Rerewith a contact positive which TI
think will interest you. I have endeavored to unite some of the
difficulties of color reproduction and am: fled to say, have,
I believe, been very successful. I will call your attention,
first, to the gradations of black and White, white, grey and black
in the plaid dress; the two extreme colors of the spectrum, red
and blue; the very delicate coloring of the face, hand and hair.
The inequality of the silver deposit towards the middle of the
plate Give a rather weak Ground, but this is not due to the nega-
tive. As soon as I receive new plates I will make over the
positive,
the negative and the Positive thet I herewith send you
have not been retouched in any way whatsoever. I will make up
in a few days sozo subjects presenting other difficulties and then
I think that you will probebly be - sufficiently satisfied to war-
rant ny discontinuing this particular kind of demonstration until
my own films are ready.
We have today sent the machine in to New York to have the
gears put on. which are necessary to run it by power, & prelimin~
ary step to efable me to do the grinding. The machine is now, we
believe, in its definite form. As goon as it has been returned We
LABORAT,ORY OF
CHARLES L, BRASSEUR
116 TREMONT AVENUE
ORANGE, N. J
FLD. #2.
will ‘have it worked continuously for a week or ten days, and, if
that proves satisfactory we will be in position to begin cross-cut
ting. There have been many difficulties encountered in obtaining
satisfactory metal. A Swedish mill waich hed gent me some very
peautiful stecl has just cabled me that they will not undertake
to grind it dowm thinner thai. the material I now use. A French
mill has gent me polished tempered steel of half the thiclmess,
but it was not absolutely sinooth. This was probably due to defects
of the machinery employed. I have instructed them to cable me
whether they could overcome this or not. If they do not, I will
have to take the bull by the horns and do the final rolling and
grinding of the material at the laboratory. What has been done
outside hes cost a great deal and is never as satisfactorily finish-
ed as it ought to be. The tempering done by Browm & Sharp has been
very satisfactory, put they decline to do the polishing. TI am
sorry to have to trouble you with such details, but unless you
are acquainted with them it is hard to realize the amount of tine
an patience necessary to overaome what appear to be, minor difficul
ties. I have not yet gone to St. Louls, and will not do so until
after the final trial of the machine.
tT remain,
Yours very truly,
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[MARCH 22, 1909]
rere See
7 L- Memo, No. 502,
Messra. Wilson, Weber and
You are appointed a committee to thoroughhy
investigate the present situation of Mr, Brasseyr's work and to
recommend whether the work should be dropped or be continued for
a further period of a year.
I would like to have this report at the earliest possible
moment, so that a decision can be made without delay.
It seems to be reasonably clear that, theoretically, Mr.
Brasseur's plan is correct, but you had better satisfy yourselves
on this point by seeing, if possible, the actual printing and
developing of a colored positive.
My own opinion is that the problem to be solved is purely
a@ mechanical one, namely, whether an enormous number of mioro-
scopic celluloid globules can be made, tinted and applied to a
celluloid strip, with sufficient economy to make the process
practical. ‘Possibly you might satisfy yourselves that the pro-
cess of making these globules that Mr. Brasseur is working on
may be changed so as to be practical.
Mr. Scull is to report, in addition, briefly on the patent
situation, so that we may know that if we go ahead our protection
will be sufficient; and also, if Mr. Brasseur should leave, whether
we could go ahead ourselves on the same lines.
Your report should take into account also that probably within
the next year the celluloid film will be a thing of the past and
the non~imflammable film aubstituted. You want to satisfy your-
selves that the process oan be carried out with the non«flanmable
film. ,
TLD/IWW ¥. L. De
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Yorn $49
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EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY, ete
April 6, 1909,
liv, Horace ¢. Plimpton,
Manager Nerative Pvoduetion,
Brovaz Studio, New York,
Toway have told vou tat the TInuuiere Co. submiticad Lo
us Tov trial some positive and nervative Pilm, whids I baliave was
turned over to Mr, iloore, To owhaeh teu vowle Sheek this up and heve
: I
it, tested. fhe identity of the film ghonld not bo alsclosed,
if possible, to waryone, because T do not vant. the Hastman people
to know that we ere experimenting with obhey files.
Iam advised that this film is threo times faster (both
negative and positive) than the Bantman film, so that the ecaacra
Operator should be advised accordingly. v
_ Have a test made with the Lumiere negative and advise m ag
coon as the exposure has taken place, because the Luniere people
with to have one Of their men attend to the developing.
Tt might be a good plan to use thig Lumiere in the second, camra
so that the sono picture can be taken.on both the Bastman and.
Lumiere films and a comparison of thy two thereby ‘made. Do not .
rui the risk of using the Inmiore film alone.
Iam anxious to have this teat of the Lundere filly made
Form $39 a ere
ay EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY,
Horace (t, Plimpton... 2 5
wie 4/6/09.-
imnediately, because we are having so much trouble with the
Bastman negative, and some relief wicht be seawed by trying the
Lumiere negative.
Yours very truly,
ERD /LWw Vice-Prenident,
THOMAS A EOMSON, FRANK L DYER, C.H. WILSON, A.WESTEE,
CO SN ahs VICE AEC TIO EMT GENERAL COUNSEL OCH RAL MAnAOEE SECRETARY & TREASURE
EDISON MANUFACTURING CQ.
MAIN OFFICE AND FACTORY
ORANGE,N.J.
EDISON PROJECTING KINETOSCOPES AND FILMS.
10 FirrH Avenue, New YorK
homas CL Edisot.
CABLE ADDRESS
304 WABASH AVENUE,CHICAGO
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April 27th, 109.
Mr, Frank L, Dyer, Vice President, é RE: ;
APR 28 1yU9
FRANK L. DYcR,
; Edison Manufacturing Co., Orange WU. J,
Dear Sir:- ;
Lumiere Filmi~ In reference to the Lumiere Tilm,..two tests have been
made of it. The first one as I previously wrote you, was taken in alst,
St., duplicating a scene in one of our pictures. The second one was
at the request of the Lumiere representative, taken out doors. I am told
that the ieee negative shows certain defects, which are described
as looking like air bubbles. It was suggested by the Lumiere people,
that we make further experiments, put I thought best to let you know
as to what had been done thus far.
Very truly yours,
Edison Mfg. Co.
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MAN.G.P.
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April 27,1909.
My. Dyerie«
in re. your memorandum lio. 502: ‘here are
two points in Nr. Brasseur's work which appear to be of
prime importance. ‘The first is the printing of a posi-~
tive from a negative. Ur. Brasseur's method is to use
a mixture of lights of the three primary colors in the
proper proportions. by his method he is able to obtain
a positive print of a Lumiere negative on a Lumiere
plate. This method of printing appears to be novel
and more simple than any of which I am aware. lir. Brase
seur assured Ir. Smith and myself this morning that he
has a pending application oovering this method in the
U.S. Patent Office, the claims of which have been re-
jected on the ground that his method of printing was
sohgeokedus thing to do. I believe, in the absence of
any references, that the Office will not be able to
maintain its position. There may be, however, other
objections, but since tr. Brasseur has not given us a
copy of this application (which, however, he has prom-
ised to do at once), I cannot say how much protection
he can ¢@ t. ;
The second important principle is in the make
ing of a color screen of the same material as the sup-
port therefor, the color sereen being made integral
with the support by direct union with it, without the
use of any adhesives. itr. Brasseur has allowed claims
covering this point already. =
If Mr. Brasseur succeeds in producing colored
photographs by the methods which he is now using, he
would be able to prevent any one from making colored
screens on any form of film, whether fire-proof or other-
wise, in which the globules are rolled directly into the
support. If he succeeds in getting any claims covering
his apparently novel printing method, it would appear
that he would be protected in the use of a very simple
printing process, though, of course, it is possible that
other means of printing can be devised. If we should
decide to go ahend ourselves indepehi ently of lr.
Brasseur, we would be obliged to at least avoid these
two important points, which, on the face of things,
appears rather difficult.
G.P.S,
GIS/ARK .
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J. WALTER DOUGLASS i LF CALE
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Frank L. Dyer, Esq., a ENG 111909;
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Vice-President & Gen'l. Counsel, © "El
Edison Manufacturing Co.,
Orange, N. J.
My dear Sir:
Mr. Crosier and myself, will be at your of#:c
fice on Wednesday morning of this week between ten
and twelve o'clock, to take up with you practically
and fully the new Crosier Safet, Machine, and the
new Crosier Dissolving Shutter.
Yours very truly,
LABORATORY OF ) 7
CHARLES L. BRASSEUR- _ m™. ;? = Tai.
116 TREMONT AVENUE 19 oO 9 .
ORANGE, N. J, :
May 14, 1909.
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FRANK L. OV /
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liy dear lir. Dyer:-
Would it be convenient for you to obtain, a few feet
of the new Eastman non-infla:zmeable Silm,with or without the
ermlsion. In ny attempts to increase the durability of colors
Iowa3 .led to try what. the effect of denitrating the fin would
have on the life of the color, and I find the result so encouraring
that I would like, if possizle, to make comparative experiments
with this new ill,
duhauaking you in advance, I remain,
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Yours very truly,
PRANK L. DYER
REFER TO THIN NUMBER '
IN YOUR REPLY ORANGE. N.
MEMORANDUM
May 14, 1909.
Mr. Soull:~
I hand you herewith copy of the Scientific
American of May 15th, containing two articles on color
Photography for motion pictures. Let me have a report
as to your opinion of these articles.
F.L.D.
FLD/ARK.
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May 19,1909.
Mr. Dyerse
Your memo. No. 636. Nothing of interest in
either of these articles. The first is merely a small
camera, by which three small photographs x* taken through
aitrerent filters are obtained on one Plate, so that it
can afterwards be projected in a Lantern to be produced
in color on a screen, .
The second 28 an account of Urban experiments
with the use of pictures projected alternately through
aifferent colored soreens, the improvements being the
use of two screens instead of three, in order to cut
down the total number of pictures and the necessarily
increased speed of taking. The effects obtained are
not good,
G.F.8.
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REPER TO THIN NUMBER xf FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY vA us ORANGE. N. &
G38 Y FT MEMORANDUM
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Ur, Scull: = 5/26/09,
Reme:ber that you are to go out to Chicago this week, and I
suggest, therefore, that you send out to Mr. Daniels a portion
of the fireproof film in order that he can coat it, so that when
you go out you can make tests of its fireproof qualities, or in
other words, determine whether the celluloid coating will make it.
inflammable,
BLD/TWW RP... D.
Hay 26,1909.
WeD. Daniels, Msq.,
Wational Vaterprocfing Company,
2115 West Adams Strect,
Chicago, Ill.
Dear Girte
vy assistant, Mr. Scull, will arrive in Chicago
on the Pennsylvania Limited, on Friday morning, to look
into the matter of the waterproofing process and the pa-
tent applications, according to our agreement. We will
probably be at your office sometime between 9 and 10
o'clock in the morning, and of course 1 should like to.
his investigation facilitated, so that he can return as
goon ag possible.
1 am sending by this mail a section of filn,
part of which is on the new Rastman non-infygenmad Le stock,
: Bal
and I should Tike to have you cont this immediately on its
receipt, so that it can be tested while lr. Scull is in
Chicago, to determine whethen' or not the coating Ma ad=
here® properly and also whether or not the film is rendered
inflammable by the coating.
Yours very truly,
GYS/ARK. Vice-President.
REFER TO THIS NUMUEE FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY ORANGE. N.
> i) MEMORANDUM
Mr. Holden: 6f./o9.
I hand you herewith specifications and blue prints of
application of B. I. Murdock relating to a projecting machine
somewhat along the lines of our scheme. Look them over carefully
and advise me whether you think the idea is worth further investi-
gation.
PLD /LWW FL. OD.
Ene- at
June 3, 1909
Mr. Dyer:
Replying to your memorandum No. 715. T have read
over the specification of IM. Murdock in connection with the
blue prints. The specification refers to additional figures,
nanely, Figures 4 and 5, which are not shown in the blue prints,
but I think I understand all that this inventor has in mind.
The drawings are diagrammatic. The mechanical dif-
ficulties of constructing a machine operating upon the princi-
ples disclosed would be very great.
The leading idea of the inventor seems to be to
eliminate flickering by having a picture constantly wpon the
screen, using mirrors to progressively illuminate one part of
the film and simultaneously and progressively obscure another
part of the film. In this particular sense the invention re-~
sembles that which we made several years ago, but it differs
from this in that the pictures are not exhibited in the correct
and proper order for producing the illusion of motion, as said
motion actually took place, but the pictures are exhibited in
an order like this: 5-4; 6-5; 7-6; 8-7; 9-8, etc,
In the device of Figures 1 to 3, there is a direct
illumination of the film from the source of light and the rays
pass directly into the upper objective from the film. There
would, therefore, be an image of the usual brightness upon
the screen from the upper objective. The rays which pass
through the lower objective, have, however, been reflected four
times and the image on the screen from this objective would
therefore be much less bright than from the first objective.
1.
The lower objective is for the purpose of producing an image
while the film is traveling, the upper objective being for pro-
ducing an image when the film is at rest. Possibly the images
from the lower objective would be on the screen for shorter in-
tervals than the brighter images, and hence owing to this and
their comparative dimmess the fact of their being out of se-
quence might not be so very noticéSe but I do not think so.
The arrangement is such that when the film is travel-
ing, the distance of the focal plane of the film from the ob-=
jective ,measured along the path of light, diminishes, therefore
it is necessary to move the objective Simultaneously with the
film, This would seem to be a serious disadvantage and prob~
ably a fatal one as the travel of the objective would have to be
such as not only to keep the fiim“in one focal plane, but the.
screen in the other. This might be done for a screen ata
given distance, but how would it work with a screen at a dif-
ferent distance, for instance, twice as far from the objec-
tive? The use of two objectives is also very objectionable,
From the specification, however, I take it that in
Figure 4, only one objective is used, and this could be done
by placing the mirrors as shown in pencil in Figure 1. With
this form of device, however, it would still be necessary to
move the objective during the travel of the film to compensate
for the variation in distance of the focal plane of the filn.
In conclusion I would say that I do not consider the
invention worth further investigation for the reason that the
mechanical difficulties in getting up an operative machine would
1.
be much greater than in the case of our invention, ami even
if an operative machine were obtained, it would not project
the pictures in their proper sequence for reproducing the
motions which actually occurred. It seems to me that the
moving parts would jump back and forth ina very ludicrous
manner if the pictures of the film were exhibited in the order
suggested by this inventor.
In other words, it seems to be Subject not only to
all the disadvantages which might be present in our apparatus,
but to additional disadvantages and difficulties, am if these
could be successfully overcome the result would be merely the
exhibition of pictures out of their proper sequence, which I
should think would be anything but a natural reproduction of
the scene which was photographed.
DH/AMTL Fyttlars Ma Chew
June 4,1909
J. Walter Douglass, Esq.,
“610 North Anerican Building,
Philadelphia, Pa.
Yy dear Biri
At li. Dyer's direction i have given
considerpble attention to gthe device of Mr. Crosier,
whi cli has been submitted to this Company, and have re-
ported to Hr. Dyer. iy. Dyer directs me to say that we
have found thut Kay, Crosier's device is very ingenius
“and effective, but from a commercial standpoint it is
one which this Company does not care to undertake to
merket., It appears that there is probably more refine-
ment in the device than the average moving picture theatre
.or even a considerable number of them, would be willing
to bother with or way for, and moreover, in a relatively
short time the non-inflammable film will replace the
inflammable. kind, and in such an event many of the fea-
tures of the device will become practically useless. iin
addition to the furegoing. it may be noted that at the
present. time there is a campaign of education on to ine
duce proprietors of moving picture shows to operate in
a room sufficiently lighted to enable the reading of
#2 J. Walter Douglass, Esq.
large print. This is perfectly feasible and is being
done in many theatres, and of course, when all theatres
are thus equipped, the necessity for throwing on the
house lights when the machine stops will be largely ob-
viated.
Mr. Dyer wishes me to thank you for having
submitted the device to him for hig inspection.
Yours very truly,
CFS/ARK . Assistant to Vice-President.
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The idea occudsed to me , (4 U @ clinical lecture at Guy's
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Hospital on tar >» a8 & means of Di gabein®) thot if the moving
oar = Teehwrent urbe dh
Gee Oy one a ab e Kine: oscopée-
en. eee Pe aae @undeay or
could be thrown dn & screen, as jin the ase of a Lante
: Clenz Tt. a oe ary Ive ankle, co. ena Cu,
picture, sO many unites of persons would be ey oes, to; view it
Q@outeat” ee. ha ah Ge er Be Pee Orne
at the on Pane e I (if you will lpardon,a Catpee ae the ego-~
ate Ge, Une oA we
tistical Wirst person) wrotte ae ok on +t ere and eet
pee ee ta! oS
out the inning ‘aivan f) a rrengement ery “be over ge
wevlle rg,
old method of oxtibiting the picture. a.
To my letter your manager at Orange kindly Pere
that no apparatus had up to that date been devised whereby the
London, sae!
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picture- a
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moving picture could be thrown upon a screen, but that “experi~
ments would be made in that direction and if successful I
should be again communicated with. I may say that I never
heard from you again , but some considerable time afterwards the
"Cinematograph" was exhibited at the’ Empire Theatre in London.
I take the liberty of mentiongiq the above merely as an excuse
for a suggestion, which I feel sure, Sir, you will pardon my .
ritig, to f phe, Stfaot thes he "Gtuenotogrerh”,
“Biogreph} or es .
pe he Se ee
potentialities as an Educator in our Schools and Colleges -
educational, technical ond medical.
“Moving pictures" as a source of amusement can be found in
every city and town throughout Australie, but are practically
unknown as an established method of education,
I understand that quite recently the fields of Science, Medicine,
Bacteriology, ote., have been explored for ‘subjects, and some
very inatrustive and interesting Films secured as a consequences
Should you know where such Films could be purchased may I ask
the great favour of being furnished with the address of the
maker 2
Faithfully Yours, .
LL om
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Commissioner of Public Health for Queensland.
Thos. Ae Edison. Hsq.,
Lakeside Avenue.
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June 5, 1909,
BG. DT. Murdock, HSqey
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New York City...
My dear Mr, Murdock:
, Your favor of the 2nd inst. was duly received
in reference to your application for a method and machine for pro-~
ducing moving pictures. T referred the matter to my assoblate,
iff, Holden, who has given considerable thought to the problem of
redoing flicker, and‘he has made quite a full report, in whi ch, |
after discussing various objections that he sees. in your sohmie,
he says: . . _ = ;
"In conclusion I would say that I do not consider. the’ 4nven~
tion worth further investigation, for the season that the nechani~
cal Giffionltics.in getting up an operative machine Will. be very
great, and even if an operative machine were obtained, it would
not project pictures in their proper sequence for reproducing the
motions which actually occur. It seema to mo that the moving
parts would jump back and forth in a very ludicrous manner if the
pilotures of the film were exhibited in the order suggested by the
inventor, ! ; : - nee
I therefore beg to return the application papers herewith:
and thank. you very much for bringing the matter. to my attention.
Yours very truly,
BLD /Tww . Oo " Vhoe~President.
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(RECEIVED, )
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FRANK L. Br &,
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June 17th, 1909.
Mr, He G@. Plimpton:
After making several tests of the new Eastman
negative and positive film, we found the speed, quality and action
during the course of operation is about the same as our present film,
The texture of the stock is much harder and not so flexible and do
not think it will stand the. wear:ard tear as our old, but this can
only be determined by time. We also at the same time made conpara=
tive tests of the Lumiere negative and positive, the negative proved
to be equally as good in every reqpect, as the Eastman. The positive
is not so clear and brilliant as the positive we are now using,
(Signed) E. S. Porter.
Copy.
[FROM CARL H. WILSON]
Nr. Weber:
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In a conversation yesterday with Mr. Waters of the
Kinetograph Co., he stated that considerable trouble was exe
perienced with films, on account of poor joints made by outside
people, principally by picture machine o
a film came apart, would rejoin it by simply Slapping on a
little cement and holding the two ends together with their
fingers, instead of using a film joiner, wetaee :
He also pointed out that the cost of. the film joiner which
great many people would not buy it,
a cheaper joiner, ‘something to List
we list was so high that a
whereas if we could set out
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perators, who, in case.
at $2.50 or $3.00, he thought one could b@ sold. to almost every
exhibitor in the country.
Won't you please look into this
inexpensive joiner cannot be devised.
9/14/09,
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LABORATORY OF
CHARLES 2. BRASSEUR 5
116 TREMONT AVENUE
ORANGE, N. 3,
Sept. 14, 1909,
Frank L. Dyer, Isq.
Dear Sir:=
As I told you in my last interview with you, just
before you sailed, one of the difficulties to be overcome was the
cementing together of the celluloid pieces when use is made of
flowed filn as distinguished from cut film. The completion of i
the cutting machines made the immediate solution of this problem
one of vital importance.
In the trade cementing is of daily occurrence, but the
sheets so cemented are cut of green or fresh stock in'a veneering
machine. Not having one of these, I had to look around for ways
to overcome the difficulty, and after being; non-plussed for some
weeks, am glad to say that I have finally found a solution of the
problem.
What happens, apparently, when using flowed film is,
thet with the slow drying of the film, the more volatile elements
such as camphor, etc. evaporate and leave a hard, non-plastic sur~
face and it follows that when, as in my case, wou use a film 1/800"
thick, this film is practically. made up of two non-plastic surfaces
which it is impossible to cement to other like surfaces.
Having hit upon the cause, the remedy was obvious, and I
have now succeeded in cementing three sheets together and obtaining
therefrom triple threads, i.e. threads of three colors. I still
Bave to study the dosing a little more and to find the amount of
heat and pressure which will just weld them together without mixing
I have had extra sensitive gauges put on the boiler,
LABORATORY OF
CHARLES ¢. BRASSEUR
16 TREMONT AVENUE
ORANGE, N.Y.
FOL. D WR
on the press and on the cutting machine, and have put on steam
traps where necessary, all for the purpose of deternining with
great precision the best working conditions,
As to the thread cutting machine, we have received the
imported steel. Lo my regret, it is not up to expectations as to
thickness, but on lir. Wilson's advice have accepted it rather than
wait three months more for a thinner lot. ‘the manufacturers have
been very decent about the matter and have asked me to name my ovm
price for what I could use, which matter is now the subject of cor-
respondence, I have enoujh thin steel to mount two inches of discs
at 800 per inch, and this will be done as soon as the rolled Gernan
silver is received. this could not be ordered before we knew ex-
actly what the thickness of the steel was, but it will be ready in
@ very few days. .
The cross-cutting machine was delivered a month ago.
New gears, of a different ratio have had to be put in to enable it
to cut 1/1000". I have had a steam box fitted to it so as to be
able to use it for veneer cutting or for cross cutting the threads.
It will cut a section about one inch square, about the size of a
moving picture, and I hope to be able to cut blocks made up of com-
pressed tri-color threads without any trouble. A new brake is
still to be fitted,as the original one gave a certain amount of
back lash, which, on such a thickness, 1/1000", was a cause of af,
preciable irregularity. The makers claim to be able to do. away
with this altogether,
LABORATORYOF
CHARLES Li'BRASSEUR
116 TREMONT AVENUE,
ORANGE, N, J
P.O. D8.
As to the photographis emulsion which I had intended
having done in St. Louis, I have concluded to do it myself and
have fitted up a dark room for it. It will save considerable
uoney to do thisand ‘while-Tmay not be able to met extremely sensi-
tive emulsion, it will be easy, by comparing, mine with that now in
the market to allow for this difference.
The light concentrating lens has been received and works
admirably. It will enable me to print color films quite as quickly
as black and white are now printed. I have not yet been able to .
agree with my lens grinder as to a formula. for a supplementary
lens to enable me to use it for projection purposes. I am anxious
to do this if it be at all possible to make the corrections within
the allowable limits of error, as it give an absolutely even il-
lunination of the field, put I need a little more time and quiet to
compute the curves.
Taken all in all, I think that all the different ele-
ments have been pretty well worked out. I.now have to assemble
them, which ought not to take long, a matter of very few weeks.
I think that in a couple of weeks it will be worth while coming
over, out I should glad in the meantime to show you at your con-
venience some of my triple threads under a microscope.
Yours very truly,
Ghile tlasices,
LABORA
CHARLES.2.BRASSEUR
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Octower 7th, 1909,
Mr, Hdisont-
Regarding the attached cirouler 6f the
Naturel Color Kinenatograph Company, Ltd., I beg to
advise you that the scheme consists in taking pictures
through successive color soreens which are rotated
in front of the objective, and reproduction is effected
in the same way. This means that the films are two or
three times as long as at present. You triad the same
scheme some time wngo. It is olearly impracticable, be-
cause it would mean that colored films vould cost from
two to tizree times av inuch us at present. While even
with so expensive on arrangement as making stenelig like
Like, the edded cost is less thon 30%. Furthermore, the
results are very poor. I saw one of the picturos in
London, and it was not to be compared with the Pathe
coloring,
P.L.D.
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Frank L. DYHR, Hsq., 5
Vice-President,
Edison Manufacturing do.
ORANGE (N.J.) ma
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Dear Mr. Dyer, " wr,
Mr. Desbriére has just perfected a new picture taking appa-
ratus which is in many points supposed to be superior to the exist—
ing cameras.
A prospectus is in preparati:m, but not yet printed. The ..°
only printed matter available are the enclosed two sheets of illus—
trations. APs also enclosed typewritten descriptions in F¥ench.
I have no doubt that this information will be of interest to you.
Very truly yours,
The National Phonograph do. Ltd.
: ae panda need ie
General Manager.
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VOLUME. -
BOITES
MAGASIN, -
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NOUVEL APPAREIL DE PRISE DE VUES
Sreveté France & Etranger
Cet appareil construit sur des prineipes nouveaux différe
entiérement de tous ceux existant, tant en son mécanisme, qu’en
sa forme.
Cet appareil est d’un volume réduit, ee qui est un tras
grand avantage, puisqu'il n’est guere plus gros qu’un appareil
déteetive 9x12 et environ 4 fois moins volumineux que le
plus petit des appareils exiatants : Ses dimensions sont:
hauteur 19 e/m, longueur 26 e/m, largeur 14 e/m.
De ce fait, son poids se trouve réduit dans les mémes
proportions et il ne pése en ordre de marche que 5 kilogs, malgré
que son mécaniame soit excessivement résistant.
Ce qui a permis de faire cet appareil aussi peu volumineux ;
e’est la disposition ingénieuse de ses 2 boites magasin, qui,
au lieu d’étre placées, soit 1’une au-dessus de l’autre, soit
a l’exterieur de l'appareil, soit fixées ecdte a cdte A Vintérieur
de l’appareil, en ménageant entre elles un espace juste néces-
Saire pour y loger tout le méeanisme. L’axe de la manivelle
passe au travers des deux boites magasin (par le centre) sur
eet arbre sont calées les deux frietions d’enroulement de la
bande, qui elles-mémes passent dans les moyeux de cea deux
boftes. Les boites magasin sont en alluminium et de forme ronde,
ne tenant ainsi que la place strictement nécessaire at de poids
tres léger, La boite magasin est évidée au centre ainsi que son
eouverele pour permettre le logement du moyeu de bois sur lequel
ast enroulée et s’enroule la pellicule.
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Le tirage de la pellieule est faite par des eriffes
commandé par un bouton excentrique donnant un mouvement d’avan-
cement ne détériorant nullement la pellicule que] qu’en soit
le pas.
La disposition des griffes, permet d’obtenir des images
dont la séparation se place & volonté dans toutes les posi-
tions du centre du trou a entre deux trous. La pellieule est
débitée par deux rouleaux débiteurs, plaeés un en haut a gauche
l’autre fr bas a droite,
Tous les organes du mécanisme sont manceuvrés de l’exté-
rieur, tous les appareils de contréle et d’indication de marche
sont eneastrés dans le bois ainsi rien ne dépasse, ce qui
permet de transporter trés facilement l'appareil sans géne
d’aueune sorte, et sans craindre d’abimer aucun organe extérieur.
C’est appareil est muni des derniers perfectionnements et
il répond & toua les besoins de la cinématographie actuelle
quel que soit le genre de vue que l’on prenne (actualité, voyage
thédtre, scénes & trucs).
],’appareil comporte : visible et accessible de l’extérieur
et entierement dissimulé:
Sur l’avant l’objeetif (dont nous reparlerons plus loin)
et un indicateur d’obturation lequel permet de régler 1l’ouver-
ture de l’obturateur, sans rien ouvrir ou toucher A la boite
de l’appareil, il suffit pour eela de tourner un bouton (dans
le sens convenable ) portant deux plateaux gradués qui indiquent
l’ouverture exaecte et un blane correspondant a l’angle d’ouver-
ture donne 1’obturateur.
Par ce proeédé ont peut trés facilement ouvrir ]’obturateur
en grand ou le fermer complétement, chose qui nécessitait dans
tous les appareils existants, l’ouverture de la bofte ee qui
était toujours une manceuvre trés onéreuse et une perte de
tempa appréciable.
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En-dessus de l’objectif et en-dessous se trouvent placés
deux boutons servant a l’ouverture de la bofte (dont nous
donnerons les détails tout a l’heure). Sur la face gauche de
J’appareil (vu de l’objeectif) se trouve le plateau & queue
d’hironde dane lequel coulisse la manivelle qui, par ce procédé
se régle en longueur suivant la volonté de l’opérateur et cela
instantanement.
Sur la face droite se trouve encastré le viseur, comportant
des caches réglables suivant les divers objectifs.
Sur la face arriére se trouve placé de haut en bas, un
métreur, muni de 2 aiguilles 1’une indiquant le nombre d’ images,
l’autre le nombre de métres (ou de feet), les deux aiguilles
se ramenent 4 zéro A l'aide d’un seul bouton.
Un tube de mise au point passant entre les deux boites
magasin.
Un poinegon de reperage perforant un trou en-dessous de
l'image photographiée.
Un niveau de précision.
Un bouton de changement de marche qui permet sans rien
changer sur la nanivelle de faire donner a celle-ci, soit
8 images par tout soit une seule et cela en tirant simplement
ce bouton.
Un indieateur de vitesse, indiquant exactement la vitesse
a laquelle marche l’appareil,.
Cet indicateur de vitesse est aectionné par un régulateur
formant volant qui régularise d’une fagon parfaite la vitesse
de l'appareil.
L’appareil peut indifféremment dévider la bande, soit en
avant, soit en arriére, sans pour cela avoir a changer quoi que
ee soit, il suffit de tourner la manivelle, soit & gauche, soit
a droite, la pelliecule s’enroulant automatiquement dans les
deux sens.
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L’objectif contrairement a4 la plupart des appareils se
trouve fixé directement aprés la partie métallique de l’appareil
au moyen de 4 colonnes. L'objectif et l’obturateur sont montés
tous deux sur la méme plaque qui peut a l’aide d’un seul
bouton (bouton de dessus de l’objectif, sur la partie avant)
pivoter pour permettre de placer librement la pellicule et de
la remettre ensuite instantanéement et rigoureusement a la méme
place.
I] est possible de monter sur cet appareil tous les objec-
tifs existants depuis le foyer 35 jusqu’au plus grand sang
délimitations.
Les objectifs sont montés a monture hélicoidale et munis
d’une pare a soleil se plaquant contre ta boite selon le désir
de 1’opérateur.
La boite est en noyer verni au tampon, eollé ‘en 5 épaig-
seurs par un procédé spécial permettant a celle-ci de supporter
la chaleur, le froid et l’humidité sans déformation d’aucune
sorte,
Catte boite contrairement a tous les appareils existants
ne sert que de couverture au mécanisme, aucune piece sauf lag
deux boutons d’ouverture de cette boite ne sont fixés dessus,
ee qui permet méme par déformation de la boite, de ne rien
fausser dans l’appareil proprement dit.
La courroie pour tenir cet appareil a la main, placée
sur le dessus, ainsi que l’écrou pour la fixation sur le Pied,
sont fixés 4 l’intérieur et sur la partie métallique de
l’appareil, ne faisant ainsi nullement corps avee la boite,.
Toutes les piécea encastrées dans la boite (objectif,
niveau, métreur, indicateur de vitesse, ete... ete...) fond
joint & l’aide d’un joint ad hoe avee eelle-ci.
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L’ouverture de la boite s’opére pour placer la pellicule,
en tournant d’un quart de tour, le bouton placé au-dessus
de l’objectif dans la face avant. En tournant, ce bouton
ouvre quatre verrous placés 4 l’intérieur des colonnes et fixant
trés rigidement celles-ci entre elles. De catte fagon la plaque
de l'’objectif se trouve détachée du mécanisme et permet alors
seulement de faire pivoter autour de la charniére placee au-
dessus de la boite, toute la partie avant, qui entraine dans
son mouvement de rotation, l’objectif et l’obturateur, déedgeent
ainsi toute ih partie centrale (canal et volet) permettant de
placer facilement la pelliecule.
En ouvrant la partie avant, celle-ci dégage automati-
quement les deux parties latérales pour le libre passage des
boites magasin.
Pour remettre l’objectif en place et refermer la boite
il auffit de rabaisser la partie avant dans Sa premiére
position et de tourner le méme bouton d@’un quart de tour en sens
contraire. L’objectif se replacant mathématiquement a la méme
place, et la commande de 1’obturateur s’enchassant de méme,
le verrou extérieur en tournant referme les 4 verrous, qui
rendent le tout parfaitement rigide,
Si l’opérateur désire vérifier la marche de son appareil,
lorsque l’obturateur et l’objectif sont placés dessus i] n’a
qu’aé tourner le bouton inférieur d’un 1/2 tour. En tournant, ce
bouton, dégage la partie avant, mais seulement la partie en
bois, qui de méme que tout a l'heure pivote autour de 8a
charniére supérieure et ouvre les deux portes latérales,
laissant ainsi tout le mécanisme entiérement visible et
jaissant l’objeetif et l’obturateur dana leurs positions de
travail. Pour refermer il suffit de faire ]'opération
contraire,
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Pour mettre en place la pellicule on tourne le bouton
supérieur pour ouvrir la partie avant avec l’objectif.
On place, la boite magasin contenant le film vierge,
sur le c6té gauche de 1l’appareil et cela en la poussant
simplement sans la fixer. On passe sur le rouleau supérieur le
bout sortant de la boite, en lui faisant enauite décrire une
boucle. Apres avoir ouvert le volet, on la passe dans le
canal qui est un parallélogramme et l'on referme le volet.
Ensuite l’on fait décrire une bouecle a la pellieule de méme
que celle supérieure et on la passe sur le rouleau denté
inférieur; aprés avoir introduit la 2@me boite magasin 4 sa
place sauf le couverecle, on rentre la pelliecule a l'’intérieur
par le eété et on referme le couverele. La pellicule étant
mise en place, il ne reste plus qu’a fermer le devant, comme
e’est indiqué plus haut. Toutes ces opérations étant faites
il n’y a plus qu’a filmer.
Ce qui permet 4 cet appareil une marche réguliére trés
douce, c’est le fini de sa construction.
Tous les engrenages sont a4 denture hélicoxydale taillée
mathématiquement.
Tous les axes, tous les coussinets, sont en acier fondu,
trempé et reetifié
La denture des engrenages est trempée, rendant ainsi
l’usure relativement nulle, et de ce fait tout déreglage impos-
sible.
Les platines de l’appareil aont en maillchort toutes les
autres piéces en acier dur.
Sa fabrication est tres soignée, sa mise au point des
plus rigoureuses.
Toutes les piéeesa de l'appareil sont interchangeables
eelles-ci étant eonstruites en séries, avee un matériel spécial
et des machines-outils de haute precision, ce qui
[ENCLOSURE]
permet de
pouvoir livrer ces appareile avee un fini irréprochable et 4
des prix défiant toute concurrence, pour les services
inapré-
ciables rendus par ces appareils con¢us pour tous les besoins
de la cinématographie.
En plus cet appareil, par sa construction, et la concep-
tion de son mécanisme donne une fixité et une netteté absolues,
L’appareil pour la commodité de son transport se met
dans un sac en jolie maroquinerie noir permettant de le porter
soit a la main,
“soit a l’épaule, ou sur le dos.
En un mot, cet appareil est l'appareil idéal pour les
professionnels,
les explorateura et 1’amateur (connaissant
déja la cinématographie) et leur permettra de faire ee qu’il
était impossible de faire avee les appareils existants vu son
faible volume et son faible poids le faisant prendre
appareil de photographie ordinaire,
En résumé
ses principales caractéristiques qui en
appareil supérieur sont:
Son volume restreint,
Son faible poids,
Sa marche
douce et silencieuse,
Sa rigidité,
Sa manipulation excessivement simple,
Sa construction soignée,
pour un
font un
Et surtout sa fixité absolue et la netteté de ses images,
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[ENCLOSURE]
Appareil de
BREVETE S. G. D. G.
VUE DE FACE
VUE ARRIERE
prise de vues
FRANCE ET ETRANGER
SAC
PLAYA Pins
VUE APPAREIL OUVERT
FILMS ET OBJECTIF EN PLACE
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VUE APPAREIL OUVERT
OBJECTIF ENLEVE, AVEC LE COUVERCLE
wa ey npr cunypenione
nomen aimee commence a een cae
REFER TO THIN NUMBER FRANK L. DYER,
youn REPLY MEMORANDUM ONANGE. N. &
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Mr. Jameson: 3 11/18/o9.
Regarding the Lumiere film referred to in the attached
memorandum, I wish you would make a wear test of a section of this
film by running it through a machine to see how it. compares with the
Eastman film. Also have a small section of the Lumiere film
FLD/TWW
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November ,17th. 1909.
Mr. Byer ;~
In reference to the attached letter,regarding lumiere non-
inflammble film,I have made the test as per instructions.
‘Any time you care to see this film,we have it in good shape
to show youe
FILM DEPT. .
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LUMIERE'S DRY PLATES, FILMS, PAPERS AND CHEMICALS
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AUTOCHROM PLATES FOR PHOTOGRAPHING IN COLORS OF NATURE
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. NEW YORK OFFICES ano SALES ROOMS
LYONS (France) 81-33 EAST 27TH STREET LONDON (Enatane)
NEw YORK, 1909.
Mr. Dyer, -:
c/o The Edison Oo.,
Orange, N. J.
My dear Mr. Dyer:-
I have sent you by express prepaid a roll
of Lumiere non~inflammable filme. I enclose you herewith a
copy of instructions as to handling same. I trust that you
will give them a good trial, and that you will find them satis-
factory.
Yours very truly,
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» ” DIRECTIONS FOR HANDLING NON-INFLAMMABLE FILMS
PERFORATION
This is done by exactly the same method as for the or-
dinary Infhammable Pilm, but it is preferable that the perforation
be done from the emulsion side.
PRINTING
These films being thicker than the ordinary films, it is
necessary that great care be observed while printing so that per-
fect contact with the negative film may be had.
DEVELOPING
The developing is done on a frame or roller with the
formula mentioned below, washing and rinsing as for ordinary films.
After fixing, wash in several changos of water, and observe that
the time in each washing bath should not exceed 15 or 20 aiwdtes.
After these washings, submit the film to a 5% Glycerine Bath for
ten minutes. The total time for developing, fixing, washing and
, glycerining should not exceed a half hour. .
So that the films will present a pleasing aspect, and to
avoid shrinkage, it is necessary that the drying process be a very
slow one. It is necessary to let the film dry in the ordinary
temperature of the room without setting the air in motion, so that
the drying will last at least twelve hours. By observing this pre~-
caution, you will obtain a film without contraction or shrinkage.
After complete desication of the film, separate the collo-~
dion support from the inflammable film by winding the latter on a 4
reel, and gently peeling from the collodion Support. The slightest
[ENCLOSURE]
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resistence experienced in this process of separation proves that
the desicatian is not complete. .
fo each extremity of the strip of film glue a piece
of paper so that the film can be duly attached to the projecting
apparatus.
Keep the film in tin boxes hermetically Bealed, so that
they may not be influenced by atmospheric variations.
FORMULA
Water : 1000 ¢.c.
Metol 5 gr.
Hydroquinone gr
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Sulphite of Soda(Anhyd.) 50 gr.
Carbonate of Potash(Anhyd) 30 ar.
Bromide of Potash 1 gr.
FOR USE:
Stock Solution 30 C. CG.
Water 70 #C. C6.
Form 539,
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY
Dec. 6, 1909,
Mr. J. @. Brulatour,
SLT. 27th St.,
New York City.
My dear Mr. Brulatour:
. In accordance with your request of November
2th We had a print made of the Lumiere non-~inflammable film and it
was tested, but we found its wearing qualities were very poor; in
fact, the sprocket holes tore out so quickly that unless this film
is materially strengthened I do not see the slightest hope for its
successful use in the moving picture field.
Yours very truly,
PLD/TWW Vice-President.
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[ENCLOSURE]
‘The Greatest Advance in the History of Kinematography”
KINEMACOLOR
Urban-Smith Patents
THE WORLD IN THE TINTS OF NATURE
As Exhibited by Command Before Their Majesties
The King and Queen of England
and now forming the principal features at the
PALACE THEATRE, London |
FOLIES BEGERE, Paris
WINTER-GARTEN, Berlin
Royal Society of Arts, London
Sir Henry Trueman Wood said: “A very valuable addi- |
tion to the list of photographic inventions. ... The audi- i
ence must feel they were highly privileged to be present
on the very first occasion that such marvelous results of {
patient industry and remarkable talent had been set be-
fore the public. .. .” H
[ENCLOSURE]
RECENT PRESS APPRECIATIONS
DAILY TELEGRAPH, pondon.
“An important forward movement was recorded at the Palace in the art of the kinematograph.
to The date is likely to become historical; certainly the perfecting of a process which has for a con-
siderable number of years engaged the attention of everyone interested in the development of bioscopic
pictures, is an event of very real importance. . . . As yesterday afternoon's performance proved, the
Tesults are of the most beautiful and amazingly realistic description.
“Nothing could have been more exquisite, nothing more exact in fidelity to nature, nothing more
striking than these. Scene followed scene, each glowing with light, colour and animation, A field of yellow
corn, bathed in the softened light of a summer evening, with youthful gleaners in picturesque costume fol-
lowing the reaping machines, stood out as a little masterpiece, while a flock of sheep penned up in a meadow
gave so faithful an impression of the original that one felt that one had only to stretch out the hand in order
to touch them. All these testified by their extraordinary realism, and by the brilliancy of their tints, to
the success of the new process. which may confidently be relied on to attract and fascinate the
public by the beauty and novelty of its presentment.”
TIMES, rondon.
“Here it may be emphasized that the process is a true colour photography. . . . The repro-
ductions are extraordinarily successful—as, for example, the sheen on a horse’s back or on the varnished
body of a boat, or the grey of a donkey's coat, grey being a notoriously difficult hue to deal with in colour
photography . enabled the audience to realise to what an extent the addition of colour enhances
the effectiveness of animated photographs.”
DAILY MAIL, London.
“Surprised and delighted an audience invited to witness them.
exhibited showed the tests to which the process had been put. ot
‘Some exquisite pictures evoked loud applause. Various scenes photographed as recently
as Sunday last on the French Riviera showed some wonderful colour effects, so beautifully tinted that one
was not surprised to hear it claimed for this new Kinematography that it will revolutionise motion picture
displays."
MORNING POST, yondon.
“And it seemed wonderful. . The house was crowded. A great variety of scenes
was shown. . . . In the twinkling of an eye it was secn that colour photography was an accomplished
fact, and one settled down to wonder no more, but to enjoy the results.”
DAILY GRAPHIC, yondon.
“Guests were numerous enough to fill the Palace from floor to ceiling, and their enthusiastic ap-
lause was accorded to an achievement which is more remarkable than anything which has been shown
here «. « the results are amazingly successful,
“It remains only to say that moving figures, breaking waves, motor boats, sailing boats (in one of
which was seen the moving light on the keel as the boat hecled over) were all beautifully shown in vivid
and approximately real colours.”
MORNING ADVERTISER, fondon.
.._, Messrs. Charles Urban and Albert Smith placed before a deeply interested audience a veritable
pictorial feast, consisting of a score of views—flowers and figures, sea and coast, marching troops and car-
nival scenes at Nice and Cannes. The natural colours of the breaking waves, of the landscapes and animal
life, of boat-races and humorous situations, of people, single and in ‘groups, were marvelously vivid and of
unquestionable veracity. . . . Each picture won applause. .. . A ve beautiful presentment,
called ‘Sweet Flowers’ was shown in its natural hues and tints, and a more assertive specimen of animated
colour photography could not be imagined.
; “It need hardly be added that everything projected on the screen is in colour, even to the narrow
line on a boat or a necktie, and that the tone which dominates most of the Pictures has a distinct tendency
to warmth and luminosity. oer 7
PALL MALL GAZETTE, pondon,
“To capture Nature in all her beautiful colours, and to be able to Present her to an audience by
means of the joscope is a feat which has been at last successfully accomplished, and.the many who at-
tended the Palace Theatre yesterday were unstinted in their admiration ani praise of the new Kinemacolor
pictures shown by the Urban-Smith process. oo
“By the new style every detail and every colour shade is perfectly presented. For instance, the
murch of a regiment was accurately portrayed; the uniforms and accoutrements were most realistic. An-
other picture showed the waves breaking on the shore, with all the natural tints and colours; seascapes,
panoramas of land and sca were just like the real thing. The children’s battle of flowers at Nice on Sun-
od pe was one of the best shown; whilst the water carnival at Villefranche gave some remarkable colour
elects.
The variety of pictures
“A decided and advanced step was registered by this patent, and one which will revolutionise bio-
scope entertainments,” . oie i :
REFEREE, London.
“It is enough for me to say that Urban and Smith have apparently achieved the impossible. The
results are indeed marvellous, hatever the scene, there was good old Nature true to her colours all the
time. A wonderful show indeed.”
MANCHESTER DAILY GUARDIAN.
“It is queer to find Nature confessing to a machine the truth of the painter's intuition. In general,
the chief effect of the new colour process was to give Kinematograph pictures for the first time a stereoscopic
effect. Water, too, which is always woolly, even in the best of the old style of film, comes out really liquid
and translucent.” :
OBSERVER, London.
“A novel scientific invention which has revolutionised the art of the life-motion photographer, and
must immeasurably increase the enjoyment of his work by its admirers. Seen at once to be a huge
practical success,""
SPORTING LIFE, London.
“There were brought before the eyes of the audience, fresh from London's damp streets on a bitter
winter's day, the West Bier at Brighton, bathed in pleasant summer sunshine, with its crowd of brightly
dressed promenaders; the Brighton beach, with its animation and bustle; gay carnival scenes under the
unbroken blue sky of Nice and Cannes; the rich beauty of the Riviera coast; trim sailing yachts, with dipping
white sails and busy crews, cutting through green water; angry waves dashing themselves in white fury
over great rocks; the reapers active among the yellow corn, and many other scenes imbued with the glow
and animation of life in many places. . The pictures are beautifully smooth, and there is a total
absence of glare.”
TRUTH, London.
“T fancy that the new pictures at the Palace Theatre will create something in the way of a revolution
in Bioscope entertainments. We have long heard about inventions which would enable these living pic-
tures to be seen in their natural colours, but here is the real thing — very marvellous. I am not
going to attempt to describe how it is done, but the effects are charming. . . . In every case you have
sunlight and colour, combined with a steadiness which is not always present in Kinematograph shows. I
fancy Kinemacolor will prove a very deadly rival to all other forms of living photographs.
ABERDEEN FREE PRESS, Scotland.
“The veritable hues of Nature are reproduced with astonishing accuracy, and with a delicacy and
crispness which no amount of hand-tinting by the elementary process of brush colouring could have ac-
complished."
VANITY FAIR, London. - A oe!
“The pictures are astonishingly beautiful, and are sure to prove a powerful attraction.
PHOTOGRAPHIC MONTHLY, fondon.
“Magnificent in their brilliance, steadiness and apparent general truth tocolour, . . . All were
brilliantly sharp and full of good detail and colour right into the shadows.
GLASGOW RECORD, ¢cotland.
“An abundant success, and a remarkable advance on the artificial tinting method. . . . The
effects constitute quite a revolution against all theories concerning photogs hy in colours, ‘
waving Stuart tartan plaid was shown so convincingly as to call forth a burst of cheering, . . . Somesea
scenes with spray effects around the rocks were remarkable, and, in a sailing boat scene, the glint of sun-
shine on the yellow varnish of the boat gave one a most satisfying feeling of realism. . . . Showed con-
clusively what a tremendous advance this is on anything hitherto known or dreamt of in the mind of the
photographer.”
BRITISH JOURNAL OF PHOTOGRAPHY, London.
“As the audience at the Royal Society of Arts saw for themselves, the two-colour method proved
itself capable of giving a range of colours equal to that of a three-colour process. . . . Most convincing
and beautiful demonstrations.”
NATURE, London.
: “The results were excellent. . . . Surprisingly successful.”
ARMY AND NAVY GAZETTE, London.
, “Extraordinary results. Colour kinematographs are an accomplished fact.”
STATESMAN, Calcutta,
“Something in the nature of a revelation. . A notable advance. . . . All tones and
shade gradations are observed, and there is‘an entire lack of crudeness about the pictures.
THRONE AND COUNTRY,. London.
“Absolute mechanical and artistic perfection.”
; SCHOOL GOVERNMENT CHRONICLE, London.
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“From an educational point of view, particularly for the teaching of Nature study and similar su
jects, the movin: representation of bird, animal and insect life in natural colours, Hinentacoles a! mark
as distinct an advance as that which marked the advent of the ordinary moving picture itse os
BRITISH JOURNAL OF PHOTOGRAPHY, London. ;
“The striking results obtained should promise a speedy commercial introduction of the system.’
LONDON OPINION.
“All the colours of Nature, from the boldest to the tenderest.”
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BRITISH TRADE JOURNAL, London.
“Perfectly successful. . . . The films displayed complete fidelity to natural colour, even the
reds coming out true to nature.”
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE JOURNAL, London.
“Reproduced the colours of nature with extraordinary fidelity.”
ILLUSTRATED LONDON NEWS.
“Crowned with success. . . ~ Pronounced perfect and marvellous. . . . Aroused great
enthusiasm, both in London and Paris, . . . Wonderful effects."
THE ENGLISHMAN, London.
“A wonderful demonstration. . . . The scenes exhibited were superb in their expression of
tints and tones, demonstrating the fact that the process has mastered the most complex and difficult prob-
lems of colour photography. ~. . . A marvellous exhibition.
ENGLISH MECHANIC, London.
“The varying tints were beautifully brought out,”
AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHER, London.
“One was forced to the conclusion that the ais of black-and-white kinematograph records are
numbered, The pictures were quite surprisingly excelfent."
INVERNESS COURIER, Scotland.
“The King's gracious comment Avas that the pictures were ‘very good indeed.’ At the conclusion
of the show His Majesty warmly complimented the Kkinematograph colour experts on the excellence of the
results attained by the new process,”
BRIGHTON HERALD.
“The exhibition convinced me that when the public have become accustomed to seeing their animated
pictures in natural colours, they will never be able to g0 back again to the photographs that are colourless,”
T. P’s WEEKLY, London.
“At once convincing and beautiful."
LE JOURNAL, Paris.
.__,, "The demonstration given yesterday with complete success is of the greatest interest for the immense
majority of the public. . . . “The process will entirely revolutionise the kinematograph industry.”
L'ARGUS, Paris.
“We have to congratulate Mr. Smith on the masterly manner in which he has overcome so complex a
problem. . . . He has entered on the path of success, and. he has our best wishes for a brilliant result.”
ALLEGEMEINE ZIETUNG, Berlin.
“In yesterday's exhibition we had the Opportunity of convincing ourselves of the natural living
efficiency of this undertaking.”
LOCAL ANZEIGER, Berlin.
“Tasteful and carefully chosen subjects. . , _: _An enormous progress in the development of
colour photography. . . .° Glorious colouring, particularly successful in the sea pieces and the rep-
resentation of our Carnival Procession, Received with tremendous applause.”
DEUTSCHE WARTE, Berlin.
: “Kinemacolor, as if by magic, throws the most delightful pictures upon the screen. Light and
shade are beautifully presented, as well as the most delicate tints of colour.’
MORGENBLATT, Berlin.
“Most beautifull colour and_ brilliant technique. . . . First class colour shading. . .
Colours developed themselves blamelessly.”
DIE LIGHTBILD-BUINE (Technical Trade Journal), Berlin.
“The continuous character of the pictures which arises from the development of both individual
films, and the complete absence of the Fooling movement which is to attributed to the blending; lends to
these pictures an absolutely true vividness ani gives a presentment of quite unique beauty. One does
not feel that one is only secing a photographic presentment of an event; but as a matter of fact, one is an
actual witness,””
KOENIGLICH PRIVILEZIRTE ZEITUNG, Berlin.
“The invention shows an enormous stride in the progress of photography in natural colours.’
NORD-DEUTSCHER ALLGEMEINER ZEITUNG, Berlin.
: “It was fascinating to see the play of light and shade in the beautifully chosen pictures. Exceed-
ingly successful and true to nature.”
FRANKFURTER ZEITUNG.
“It was the play of light which made the colours live, and gave their worth to every shade. A
living crimson.”
“KINEMACOLOR IS REVOLUTIONIZING KINEMATOGRAPHY.”
The marvellous results recently exhibited in Europe will be introduced in America for the first time a
the MADISON SQUARE GARDEN CONCERT HALL on SATURDAY, DECEMBER 11th, 1909, at 9 p.m.
TER TR Ama 28a a me — A re am “ ae
Form 539, ;
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EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY
Dec. 10, 1909.
Mx, Charles Urban,
Madison Square Garden,
Hew York City.
Dear lr. Urban:
Mr. Edison has veferred to me your letter of the 8th
dinct., in reference to the demonstration which takes place tomorrow
evening aut the Wadison Square Garden Concert Hall. He regrets that
he will not be uble to be present, but I shall have someone from our
comoany on hand to witness tue exhibition,
Iowiuh you very much success, and ary
Yours very truly,
PLD /TWW Vice-President.
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REFER 10 THIS NUMBER FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY
MEMORANDUM
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Ge 12/13/09.
I hand you herewith sample of moving picture film, unpor-
ORANGE. N. Ji
Mr. Jemeson:
forated, which has been submitted to us, and I wish you would have
this perforated, run through a printing machine and report to mo
as to its photographic quality. After I get your report I will
have iir. Gull mke a test for wear.
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Lyons, Montplaisir, 18 Dec. 09
Fdison Mfg. Co.,
orange, N.d.
Gentlemen:-
Our representative in New York, Mr. Brulatour
has advised us of the content of yours of the 6th fant, at which
we are very much surprised, ‘as we possess reports from Cinemato-=
graphic houses of importance, who have passed through their
apparatus our inflammable films more than 600 times without the
least tearing.
Please accept etc. an
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Managing Director,
Film service. Ss tL re ree
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Dec. 28,1969
Thomas Graf, Esqa.,
c/o Notional Phonograph Company, Ltd.,
Willesden Junction, London, Hngland.
iy dear Sir:-
Nr. Dyer duly received yours of the 13th
ult. in reference to the Desbeiare camera. Hr. Dyer di-
rects me to say that at the present time we are using
cameras only for our'regular work, and avnae the chief
daventuce of Mr. Desbriere's camera ayparently lies in
its compactness, there is apparently no particular ad-
vantage in its use.. Mr. Dyer believes, however, that
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the time may come when we oan market such a camera in ;
this country, and he wishes to know whether an applicatinn : 4
for a putent on the camera has been filed in the United
States, and if not, on what dates were applications for
patents filed abroad. This latter information is to de-
country. If it is patentable, ur. Dyer proposes that a
small sum, eay one thousand francs - be, offered Mr. Deseo
briere for the United States patents, and an agreement to
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termine whether or not the camera is patentable in this |
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o_bay_a royalty if the cameras are placed_on the_market.. i
#2 ThomasGraf , Esq.
ie. Dyer wishes that you would furnish him the foregoing
information and at the same time see whether Mr. Desbriere
is likely to accept such a proposition as is outlined.
Yours very truly,
GFS/ARK. Assistant to Vice-President.
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1909. Motion Pictures - Kinetophone (D-09-37)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
technical and commercial development of talking pictures. Included are items
pertaining to the experimental work contracted to Daniel Higham for a
combined phonograph-projector. Other documents relate to Edison's concern
about an appropriate name for Higham's "talking picture machine" (eventually
called the "kinetophone") and to the evaluation of improvements submitted by
outsiders. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the
Edison Manufacturing Co.; George F. Scull, assistant to the vice president; and
employee Isaac W. Walker.
Approximately 70 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include correspondence regarding improvements that the
Edison Manufacturing Co. declined to pursue, as well as items that duplicate
information in selected material.
REFER TO TMI NUMUER FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY
fe MEMORANDUM
334
ORANGE, N.
Mir. W. IL. Eokert: 1/29/09.
The contract of Teb. 17, 1908, between the Edison Mfg.
Co. and Daniel Higham provides that from the date of the first
shop order put through for his apparatus his salary shall be
increased from $50.00 to $100.00 per week. Mr. Higham called ny
attention to the fact that a shop order has been put through for
12 machines, and this being so he is entitled to the inorease in his
salary. Please arrange to have this put through, the increase
taking place from the date of the shop order,
FLD/LWW F.L. dD.
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“Like "Camerophone" or "Chronophone", both of which are on the market,
would be proper. Sevanasionel and "Vivephone", which you suggest,
strike re us being vers eons but perhaps we can find better ones.
a2? Regarding the wearing of Amberol records, I have not seen any
\
comolzints PRGOM LY a 0Ue gave specific instructions that when any
complaints were nede to hava the records complained of returned
in order that we gould examine them. Nothing has been said
recently avout changing the sapphire, and of ccurse nothing will be
done until we are absolutely sure and until you are Vully aavised.
In one very recent case a man in Ovange complainec bitterly of the
wearing of Ambevol records, but we found upon investigation that he
T. A. Bdison. (2) 3/6/09.
was simply a crank who Would probably not be satisfied with anything
at any rate, in that case he was entirely weong.
Yours very wily,
2
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PLD/TWY
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REFER TO THIN NUMMER FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY ORANGE, Ne
449 we | MEMORANDUM
MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTES: 3/9/09.
The name "Exhibition" selected by the Committee for
the new loud-speaking phonograph, which is to be used primarily for
talking pictures, has been objected to by Mc. Edison as undesirable
and colorless. I wish each member of the Committee would submit
to me a list of at least 10 and not more than 20 names which would
be proper for a loud-speaking phonograph and let us see if we cannot
get something that will meet Mir. Bdison's approval. 7
So far as the name for the combined apparatus is concerned,
we can Wait a little while, put it will be well for the members of
the Conmittee to jot down suggestions for names that occur to theme
FLD/TWY F.L.D.
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AMPHION,
The name of a Greek musician who built Thebes by the sound of
his lyre which charmed the stones into their places,
ARION.
A Greek musician who charmed the dolpins with his lute,
BARD.
A minstrel poet,
CALLIOPE.
Muse of epic poetry. <A series of steam whistles played by
means of a keyboard. A steam organ. Beautiful voiced,
HARMON TIA,
Personification of musical harmony.
BELLE.
A woman who is the center of attraction because of her
beauty, accomplishments, etc,
PK Boebea
Gl,
ad April 17, 1909.
Mr of t+
7 In re. your memo. No. 533: In Mr+ Higham's
ppPirect is the following clause:-
"It is, however, understood and agreed
that if the said "Higham makes any invention re-
lating ts phonographs which the National Phono-
y graph mpany shall regularly adopt and put out
ak Cc ection with its machines, then in such
Pee said Higham shall receive a salary of
a per week hereunder during the continuance
i¥s which may be made from the sale of combined
Ad uf RE ‘this agreement, irrespective of the net pro-
UF
oving picture and talking machines,"
If the suggestion of Mr. Higham amounts to an in- tj
vention, he would be entitled to this increase of salary. ¥
Geo. F. Soll. v ay
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GFS/ARK.
eal May 4, 1909.
Mr. Dyer:-
In re. your memo. 568: Allowed claims in
the Higham application cover broadly the idea of a feed
screw mounted in a @emovable carriage and a fixed feed
nut. The prior art discloses a fixed feed screw and a
nut mounted on the movable carriage. The margin of
patentability in this reversal is probably small, but
the Patent Office has not cited any reference against
the allowed claims. Mr. Weber's device can be made to
avoid the Higham claims by making it like the prior
art, though this would have to be done carefully to
avoid claims in the patent to Briggs, et al, No. 576,081,
dated January 26, 1897. These claims do not cover
broadly the idea of a splined shaft and movable carriage,
put do cover the same combination with the addition of
a lever adapted when rocked to disengage the nut and at
the same time raise the diaphragm needle, this lever
being one of the features in the device of Mr. Weber.
Mr. Weber now has a device with a rocking horn, which
avoids the traveling mandrel, and he seems to think that
this will be preferable to the traveling mandrel, ese
pecially in view of the Higham contract.
Since Higham has fulfilled one of the condi-
tions of his contract, i.e., the construction of a de-
vice for talking pictures on which a shop-order has been
placed, he will hereafter be entitled to a salary of
at least $3,000. a year, no matter what the profits of
the Manufacturing Company are, and he will receive no
more than $5,000. a year, no matter what these profits
are. Consequently, an increase of $2,000. per annum
is all that is involved in the question of the use of
his device by the National Phonograph Company.
GAs.
GFS/ARK.
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REFER TO THIn, NEMUER , F, Zz RN . DYER,
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Reena the attached memorandum, keep the matter in
mind, and when ltr. Weber has definitely decided on the design
of the movable mandrel machine, but before he issues a definite
shop order to go ahead with them, let me know and I wid. take up
¥ a
the matter with him and see just how we stand. w oe oy
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PLD/TWW By
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[ENCLOSURE]
REFER TO THIS) NUMBER FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY ORANGE, N. i
(2 MEMORANDUM
a 568 a
Mr. Scull: 4/22/09.
The contract with Mr. Higham provides that if the
National Phonograph Co. shall regularly adopt and put out machines
embodying his inventions Higham shail receive a salary of $100 .00
per week during the continuance of the agreement. The fact that
the Edison Manufacturing Co. may use phonographs embodying Higham's
invention does not in my mind bear on this question, and under
the agreement his aalary will depend upon the amount of business
done by the Edison Manufacturing Co. If, however, the National
Phonograph Cc. uses these inventions, the case is different and
the salary is to be $100.00 per week, regardless of the amount of
business done by the Edison Manufacturing Co. I wish, therefore,
(2)
that you would look into the movable mandrel machine which Mr.
Weber has in his office and consider it in connection with the
claims allowed on the Higham application and advise me whether
changes can be mde that will avoid these claims or whether the
claims are so broad that they can probably not be avoided without
sacrifice. If the latter is the case, then we might later on
consider, before adopting this device by the National Co., whether
we should not use a stationary mandrel after all.
FLD/TWW _ iF. L. D.
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SEATTLE, WASH.
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THE SEATTLE DAILY TIMES. SATURDAY EVENt
Phonograph That Records |
Into Continuous Film
Seoeceeaseseecosseaseosecs 9)
INVENTION PERFECTS},
TALKING MACHINE |
Dr. F.C, Goodale: of Tacoma
Uses Celluloid Film for Re-
producing. Sound — Seeks
. to Revolutionjze’ Business,
OCOOHSHOHH OT OCHSEHDOSOSOOHOSCEHDSOODS
NE 19, 1909.
PHONOGRAPITL that tn capable of
reproducing an entire opera’ or
drama—one that will, if fitted
with a film roll Jong enough, play for
more than. four hours, is the invention
of Dr.: F.: C. Goodale, a Tacoma
physician, who two yours ago’ gavo up
the practice of medleine ,to study the
reproduction of sound In’ an effort to
improve upon the present method of
cylinder and dtse records that will re-
produce but a few moments,
Dr. Goodale’y fnvontion 1s exceeding-
ly, almple in construction, and may be
operated by efther electrical’ power. or
spring motor. The cellulold film, which
ig the ordinary film used in moving plc-
tures,‘ and try be purehnsed for 85
cents par thousand feet, prases from nr
reel at tho back of the machine, under
a sapphire point connected with the
diaphram at the small end of tha horn,
ang onto a reel nt the front of tho ma-
ehine, © Ses :
The manufactura of 2 motallic
@aphragm sufficlently delicate to re-
roduco the sound waves from a cellue
old fim has proven the — stumbling
block in the path of every Inventor thus
far, An ordinary talking machine has
a diaphragm that $s perfectly fiat and
in’ the centor of thla and in direct, con-
nection with It Is a noedle, Tho Gond-
ale machina fa different. Its dlaphriggm
igs convex on both sides. It nlso has
multiple Iovorage instead of direct, as
in other machines. Thr¢e miniature
levers Join ench other, ohe end helny
attached to the thick center of the
dlaphra: and tho other to the. miniature
doorknob-shaped sapphire, which corras-
onds to the neodle in other machines:
his combination ts tho feature of tho
new invention, With this combination Dr.
Goodale belleves he hrs solved the mys-
tery and made possible the uso of
celluloid: film for tho perfect reproduc-
tion of ‘sound,
Groat Possibilitics in Now Film.
“On a roll of film.100 fect long and an
inch in width 1 have successfully mado
sixty records,” sald Dr, Goodale today,
in describing — tho machine. “Each
record plays about fifteon minutos. This
explanation may, convey some idea: of
the possibilities with n film’ 1,000 or
more fect In length, The cost of the
film {s.a-nierg Item. A machine, or
rotary ‘cutter, for cutting the ‘film Into
any desired width, may bo” purchased
for about $8.° Tho .total cost. of tho
phonograph when {t-1s placed on the
marke wilk not. be over $25,, ,. °
“As an-:ald to the. business man ‘its
worth :.cannot. bo ostimated.’. . Machines,
that wilistake up no more space than
the ordinary paper. weight, ard that
mny be used for correspondence with
the use.of a film flve-sixteenths of an
inch in width, and but a few feet In
length, and that may be mailed for 1
cent, will prove of much yalue to the
busy office.man. Recording one's con--
versation is ‘simplicity ‘itself. A‘ thin-4
dinphragin inthe maciiing viabrates when
struck by the waves produced by sound,
These vibrations operate’ a very small
unge-ike Knife, that. Is.in reality a
iny and nicaly-fasliloned tool, made of
n Httie sapphire jewel. The -snpphire
funge ‘cuts the impressions deep or
shallow, xx desired, .on- the -cettulold
film passing beneath: it. ! ; <a
“In reproducing a small lover permits
of eight degrees of wound without
lensening the | speed. of the machine,
while by turning still‘another lever the
record mnay:be. given fast-or slow,. nH
deslred. A amall diat hand permits one
to reproduce any record on tho film, or
may be set so ng to automntically re-
peat the samo one fg many tines as
desired. | , Fas ah
Perfects Moving Picture Outfits, :
“This'means ‘the attainment of all that:
js desirable In talking - machines: us
operated. simultaneously - with » moving
pleturea-as 1s now belng.done in Europe,
and the larger: cltles .of: this. country.
At the present ‘time: two muchines aro
used in doing this. With my invention,.
by the use of an attuchmont,-. the -phono-
graph may-be plactd at ‘the sido of: tho:
moving picture,-machine:: Tha‘. plioto-
graphs maybe taken’ upon the: talling’
machine record’ at tho fname time that
the songs and speeches arg: recorded
ee ag
-on. the: same- film. “Both. may then bo
reproduced simultancously.” ,
for the ;manufacture= y,machines.
‘The inventor ts 46° year: ds and fn.
native of Iowa, but” camé™ West*alghs:
i ears Ee He Neves with his daughter,
fiag Pearl Goodale, at. 963+ South - Bj
r. Usegjale last: week. procured four-,
teen pate i he" invention’ and* tn
now endeavorin® ‘auf capitallats
Street, Tacoma. de
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REFER TO THIN NUMBER FRANK L, DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY ORANGE. Ne
MEMORANDUM
809 ,
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ur. Dolbeer! 6/28/09.
Tohave carefully considered the attached Letter from
i, Davega oud the proposed talking mzchine inverited by Dr. F.C.
Gocdale of Tacoma, bul T do not think the suggestion is one in
which “ec would be at all interested, since lS. AyLsworth telle ma
that difficulties would be encountered in making a record on
celluloid flim that would be practically insurmowitabie.
EuD/rwyt Be te De
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Form 280
[FROM FRANK L. DYER]
Y\ P, ~ dala - eee |
NATIONAL PHONOGRAPH COMPANY
Mr. We. Y. Wheeler,
Superintendent Surcau of Inventions,
ALaska-“ukon-Pacific tiposition,
Seattle, Wash.
“iv, dison nas cexerred to me your Lettay of the
2460 dnst., ith enclosed vewapaper- clipping desceripiig a new
phonograph invented by Min. FF. OO, Goodale. Luis matter hud been
Previously Vrougit to ow ebiention, and artes cavorul considerae
tion 1% was concluded that Ghe device is of no interest to us.
Yours ysry truly,
Srp /TWw President,
“=
Members Exeoutive Committee: .
The following are the names. which have been suggested
fér the Talking Picture Machine, ‘Please indicate your first, second
and third.choice and return to me so that I can tabulate them __
Dramaphone Photophone
Kinetophone Projectograph
Vivophone ini te
Phonoscope
Photophonograph
Musico-Dramatic
Sceneoscope
Depiotophone
Phono-kineto
Vistonphone"
Talkosoope
Phonokinetograph
Mation=Picture Phono
Kinetophonograph asl
Graphosoope ,
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August 12, 1909, I. W. Walker,
[ATTACHMENT]
NAMES FOR TALKING-PICTURT MACHINE
ER ACE NE
First Choice
Kinet ophone
Musico-Dramatic
3
1
Vivophone 1
Dramaphone L
1
Phonoscope
Second Choice
Kine tophone
Phonogcope
Dramaphone
2
L
1
Photophone a
Phonokine tograph 1
1
Talkoscope
Third Choice
Photophone
Kinet ophone
2
1
Phonos cope 1 ’
Kinet ophonograph 1
1
Visionphone
Zotal
Kine tophone 6
Phonoscope 3
Photophone 3 ’
2
Dramaphone
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¢ ‘third choice and vretura to me to be ) tabulated:
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vs The following names have been suggested for the Higham
Haa.pp eeaking Phonograph, "Please indicate your firet, second an
Jupitor
Peerless:
Edisona:,
Edison ia:
Direotor
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Clarion.
Heroular
Troquoir
Rehasesdor
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Sonido Oryptophone
Vox-Magna Oryptaphone
Perfection Choralophone::
Wonder ... Charister...
Gl . Selon ..
Faithful Cabinetta
Beauty 4
Delightfu2 wy. sstio
Unique .. — Climax.
Chorus: Synfon
Society Advance
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Supe ‘ogress
Invino ible Popular
prepped ee ee
Anpl iphone
iphone
Opera. ...
Operapjone
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Colgnel
war. —
General
Regent-
Regal.
Crown
Orphean
Bard ...
Harmonia
Bellg. ..
Merrinent
ea ehon i
Euphonion
Dulocatophone
Uranophone.. .
Cabinet Grand
I. W. Walker,
ree eee
Menbers Exeoutive Committee. 2%
The following names have been suggested forbthe tornless
Phonograph, Please indicate your seabed, “second and third
ohoice and return to me to be tabulated?
Opera. Uslodto
Q Edisona
Uaglo Edisaia
Myst Amphion
Famous Orphens
Attractive Duloetone
Select - Nestor.
Progress Magnus
Aoourate Stogan
Concise Stentor
Special Jupiter
Complete Aome
Popular Buraka
Yohorn Winner
Superba Ss eeny
. Q
Majestic Fon
: Bapoco,.
Symfon e- Lux
Advance Star
Salon . Overall
Cabinetta Leader.
Nonpare ii Sanspareil
Iroquois. Arion. a
Aubassador Bard.
Sonido. .. Harmonia
Vox. Berle -
Perfection Regent
Perfect ..
ny Crown
bei Orphean
0
Faithful Dulogtophone
Beauty Urano @.
Delightful Cabinet.Grand
ique Crytophone.
Merr iment Choralophane
Soprano Chorister..
Favorite gael eon.
Chorus.
_ Boalety
Grand
Operaphone
Royal...
Euperor
Sympho:
dara eg
Symphon ic_
Monarch - - .
Symphonic I, W. Walker
biciied 12, to02,
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LAW OFFICES OF
CHURCH & CHURCH,
MELVILLE CHURCH,
4. HW. CHURECH,
A. 8. BTEVART.
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| va MAIN 2146, A. B,C. Cour .
NU Fa WASHINGTON, D. c. September 15, 1909.
Frank L. Dyer, Esq.,
|
i. McGILL BUILDING,
put it 908 G STREET N.W.
Orange, Ne J.
Dear Mr. Dyer:-
I have come across an application ,filed
in 1880, now pending in the Patent Office, which con-
tains fundamental idens and basic claims in arts which
I think may make it of material value to one or more
of your companies. Spencer B. Prentiss, whom I have
known for years, is attorney in the case and has brought
it to me for advice and with a view to submitting it
for sale.
The invention consists in recording and re~
producing sound and othor phenomena by means of Light
(and other radiant energy), and a ribbon-like ‘translucent
photographic film. This film is wound on reels and
moved at the proper speed to receive the impressions,
which latter are made by light controlled by a shutter
carried by a diaphragm which vibrates in accordance
with the sound to be Tecorded. Reproduction of the sound
is effected by projecting light through the translucent
photographic recora upon a sensitive receiving device,
such as a selenium cell, included in circuit with a
telephone receiver.
Frank L. Dyer, Esq., --2
Vary broai claims stand allowed on the
apparatus and combination of elements, and also on the
record strip. Clain 50 reads as follows:-
"650. A record of pulsations in sound con-
Bisting of a stip or band photographically
affected in accordance with said pulsations
and capable of reproducing the sound."
Many elaborations and modifications of the
broad idea are described upon which divisional appli-
cations could doubtless be prepared.
You will, at once, see the bearing of this
case on the phonograph and movirg picture arts ard the
possibility that dominating claims might be obtained
which could be used offensively and defensively. The
early filing date, 1880, makes the finding of pertinent
references practically impossible.
If you would Like to look into the matter and
will appoint a time for an interview to hear the appli-
cation read, Mr. Prentiss will go to New York for that
purpose, or I will bring the application over to you.
Two hours would,probably, be required to dispose of the
matter.
Frank L. Dyer, Esq., -~3.
The application has been submitted to me
with the understanding that if it is not purchased no
disclosure will be nade to any other person and no
act done to injure ‘or prejudice the apvlication.
I know. of no one so competent as yourself
to pass upon the probable value of the appli cation.
Yours very truly,
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Sept. 16,1909.
Melville Church, Esq.,
908 - G Street,
Washington, D.C.
Ey dear Mr. Church:-
Yours of the 15th inst. has been
received in reference to the application of Mr. Prentiss,
if the application is limited to the recording of sounds
or similar phenomena by means of light, it would be of
interest to us, but if the claims are broad enough, in
your opinion, to cover moving pictures, it might be very
interesting, although we must not forget that broadly
_. Speaking, the moving picture idea was suggesting many years
before 1880. At the same time, there would certainly be
no harm in my looking into the application providing Mr.
Prentiss has not some impossible idea as to its value,
and I would suggest that you bring it over. There are
always enough things here to be discussed with you as to
make it worth your while to come on whenever you can.
Almost any day next week would convenient to me except
Tuesday and Thursday, when, as you know, I am in New York.
Yours very truly,
President.
MELVILLE CHURCH,
4. B. GHUACH,
A. 8, OTEVART,
PATENT Causes.
LAW OFFICES OF
CHURCH & CHURCH,
McGILL BUILDING,
908 G STREET N.W.
Came ApDacas “CHUncH.?
A.B. C, Conk Vero,
Lona Distance TetePHone
MAIN 2t46,
WASHINGTON, 9.c. September 17, 1909
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Sep PS lus ‘
Kia ci DET )
Frank L. Dyer, Esq.,
Edison Laboratory, ’ f
Orange, N. J. \
Dear Mr. Dyer:- ke
Yours of the 16th instant received.”
I will come over to New York Sunday night and be at
your office in Orange on Monday morning. Will bring
the application controlled by Kr. Prentiss with me and
you can then decide whether there is anything in it
worth while. I make this early appointment in order
that it may not conflict with later ones. I hope it
will be agreeable to you.
Truly yours,
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.~ October 13, 1909.
Mr. Dyer i-=
In accordance with your instructions, I took
up the matter of making the model of the Baldwin sound
amplifier, shown in the accompanying patent, with Mr.
Pierman. The latter said that he was very busy on some
work for l&, Edison end suggested that Wolke Was capable
of doing the job, and as Pierman expressed it, would
be free from any prejudice. fr, Wolke, however, is
doing some work. for Hr; Edison also, and I thousht it
would be advisable tor you to take up the matter with
Mr, Hdison te have him euthorize Wolke to do the job.
G.F.8.
GIS/ARK,
Form 539,
EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY
Nov. 22, 1909,
Mr. Norace G. Plimptcn,
Sronx. Studio,
Dear Sie:
copuLtion in order shat he oan now start in
telkiue
sungject
time,
if any,
Will be
BLD/TW
Se, Wighai is anxious to obtain «. camera in Tivsteeless
pictures. Pleaso advise me how vou i
ox Cameras and whether you cag spore ens at the present
ALSO ascertain faery oy. Oliver nnd advice we how muny CEN VAL,
ase now Yelng Mnishedoun im the faetemy and when they
completed,
Yours very truly,
Vice-President.
THOMAS A. EDISON, FRANK L.OYER, C.H. WILSON, A.WESTEE,
eneMoOENT, VICE-PREDIDENT & GENERAL couNsEL. GENERAL MANAGER. SECNETANY © TREASUNEA,
EDISON MANUFACTURING CO.
MAIN OFFICE AND FACTORY
ORANGE,N.J.
EDISON PROJECTING KINETOSCOPES AND FILMS.
Roman OL Edison : 10 FirTH Avenue, New Yorn CABLE AODRESS
304 WABASH AVENUE,CHICAGO. "KURILIAN, NEW YORK"
IN REPLYING ADDRESS THE COMPANY NOT
THE INDIVIDUAL ANO MENTION THESE INITIALS.
AODRESS YOUR REPLYTO BISON STUDIO, 7826 DECATUR AVE, DEDFORD PARK
we, (J
er aa Mar Gor , Nove 15, 1909.
Mr. Frank L. Dyer, Vice-President,
Feet.
NOV 1G gus
PRIN ie hf
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Edison Manufacturing Co.,
Ovange, N. JZ.
Dear Sir:- care
Referring to your letter of the 12th about cameras,
the way the matter stands at present is as follows:-
We have eight cameras of which five are in use by our
regular Camera Operators, and one in the possession of Mr. Chester.
This leaves two cameras to provide for the camera to be used to re«
place the one turned in each week by the Camera Operator, and one
other in case of any breakdown, necessitating repairs at Orange.
If we should take one of the above cameras for Mr. Higham, you
will see that it will only leave one camera beyond the amount in
daily use, and we should hardly be on the safe side.
I understand that the camera Mr. Porter took West is now
in Mr. Weber's hands some small parts being missing. Mr. Oliver
is to see Mr. Webex to-morrow, and if this camera can be put into
shape immediately, we can then be able to give Mr. Higham one,
without any loss to the regular business. I will advise you about
this to-morrow or Wednesday.
~ Q2-
In addition to the above, there are four more cameras
being built, one of which I understand is expected to be ready in
about five weoks, and the others, I presume in two ox three months.
Referring to your letter of the 12th in regard to lengths
of special pictures, this will have attention.
Yours very truly,
Edison Manufacturing cot,
Kinetograph Dept. ,
Sivas tesflec
ay
RB/BB Mer. , aed: Production.
Form 539.
Y EDISON MANUFACTURING COMPANY : ; ‘s
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Nov. 16, 1909.
Mr. Horace G. Plimpton,
Bronx Studio. 3
Deur Sir:
Replying to yours of the 15th inst., let me know ag soon
as the Porter cemora ig fixed up in order that one of the other
cameras cun be turned over to ir, Higham. I have urged Nr, Weber
to-day to push the congtruction of the four additional cameras
aa rapidly as possible.
Yours very truly,
FLD/IVY Vice-President,
: Sota me eee
Memo. ee (a JF)
See Mr. Plimpton tonight and tell him that ir. Higham is now
ready te take pictures. These pictures will be taken at the 21st
St. Studie and Mr, Higham will be given the use of the Studio
a8 much as he wants, provided he Gives ifr. Plimpton two or three
days notice beforehand, Also have Nv. Haddock co-operate with Mr,
Migham in picking out desirabic Yecords to ba illustrated by
means of pictures. Ur. Haddock con ve of great held to Hr. Higham
in connection cllh the making, of the pictures, Me. Wighan will
Algo have the use of Mr. Haddockts Canera Man when the pictures are
being taken; in othr words, until Me. Highun makes a sufficient
nuriber of pictures for stock, he wlll have tha right of way at the
cist St. Studie.
ie, Highan proposes to start in at flst St. on Friday morning
if convenient to ifr, Plimpton; if not, if. Pli::pton will telephone
Mr. Hisham tomorrow.
1//s. FOL. D.
1909. Patents (D-09-39)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to
foreign and domestic patent applications, patent litigation, and other patent
matters. Among the items for 1909 are letters concerning patent legislation in
the United States and Great Britain, patent jurisdiction in the Panama Canal
Zone, and the possible commercial exploitation of two Edison patents. Most of
the letters are to or from Frank L. Dyer, president and general counsel! of the
National Phonograph Co.
Approximately 40 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include routine letters of inquiry; receipts; Edison patents
enclosed with selected correspondence; routine letters concerning taxes;
accounts with attorneys; and items that duplicate information in selected
material.
Related documents can be found in D-09-32 (Legal Department).
¥eb. 10, 1909.
Charles >, Bruch, @sa.,
Postal Telegraph-Cable Co.,
253 Broadway, New Yovic. af
My desr Sirs ‘
ir. Linon has suggested thet I shonld bring to your
attention the enoloned patent, No. 909,877, dated Jenuary 19, 1909.
He would like te have you read this patent over and advisu me
whether or not you think the invention 4s one in which the Postel
Telegraph Co. would be interested. He states that hig soovinente
with the invention have turned out very satistactorily ond he
regards the schene os entirely comercial, Should you deaire extra
copies of this patent I will be glad to let you have them,
Yours very truly,
PLD/LW . General Counsel.
Enec-
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Postal Celegraph-Cable Company
Exerutitie Offices
253 BROADWAY
CHARLES P.BRUCH
THIRD VICE PRESIDENT Netu Darl: February llth, 1909
Teneral Counsel,
Thomas A Edison, i
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Orense, Nie.
Dear Sir:
Your frvor of the 10th instant, enclosing a copy of
=r. Edison's patent 10.909,877, of vanuary 19th, 1909, has been
received and referred to our Electrical Engineer, with the re-
quest that he examine it and report as to “hether or not the
device is likely to be adaptable to, and of use in, our service.
Upon receirt of this report, T will communicate with you fur-
ther.
Themcing ir.EGison end vourself for bringing the mat-
ver to our attention, I am,
Yours truly,
rresident.
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Feb, 23, 1909,
Joseph R. Bdson, sqe,
Washington Life & Trust Building,
Washington, D. G:
My dear Mr. BEdgon:: 9.8 ;
I. thank you very much for your letter of the 17th
Tnat +) enclosing ‘the proposed Patent Court of Appeals bill. It
seems tomo that this is-a most exoclicnt suggestion and one that
,¢annot help from doing much ood.
I know iit, Edison's ideau, as I have often discussed this mat-
tev vith-him,, ond the suggestion mects with his emphatio and hearty
‘approval. You Imow, of course, that in past years, he has oriti-~
icised our patent system in various ways, largely because of the
discouraging delays and difficulties which are, encountered in
-having oases finally disposed of, and I believe the new Court would
inn large measure remove these objections. = 2. |
; Thanking you for your very -kind. porsonal.words, I an,
ae ive
Yours very truly,
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JOSEPH WU. HNSON RSTARLISIND 1806 Gvonan A. HUTCHINSON
EDSON BROTITERS
ATTORNEYS AT LAW AND SOLIOrrors OF PATHNTS
PATUNT AND TRADE-MARK LITIGATION
WASIINGTON LOAN & TRUST BUILDING
WASHINGTON, D. Cc.
March 6, 1909,
Frank 1.. Tyer, Faq.,Presiaent, etc.,
Wyn.
( RECEIVED. }
MAR & 1909
Orange,
New Jersey.
My deac Mr. Dyer:-
I thank ycu for ycurs ef the 23ra ult. Altncugn the
Committee on tne Judiciary made a favorable report on cur Patent Ceurt
ef Appeals bill, following a sinilar cepert of the Senmittee on7 Patents,
owing tc the shert sessicn and the amcunt of werk . before the Hour@y
we were unable to secure the passage of the Bill at this session, We
feel cenfident of favcrakle action - ‘by - Congresscat its next general
eession. May I, as a representative of the Committee or Patents, etQ.,
expect some assistance from Mr. Fdison in support of this saia Bill,
especially in the Senate. I will be glad te senda you, or Prof, Faison
any literature at my commana which woulda tena to further secure his
cenoperation in support;of: the Bill. il..
Very truly ycurs,
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REFER TO THIS NUMIEE FRANK L. DYER,
re ie ee MEMORANDUM ORANGE. N. &
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Mr. Holden: 3/9/09.
I hand you herewith lettor of Feb. 23rd, fron Harris &
Mills, which has disturbed me a good deal. I hnve always understood
that under the new British Patents Act working in Great Britain
was compulsory anly when a demand existed in that country fer the
patented article, and when that demend was supplied by importation
into Great Britain from a foreign comtry--in other words, while
the battery was btill in a more or less formative state, we would
be fairly safe so long as we did not supply British customers
from America or Germany. Harris & Mills seem to feel that this is
not so and that we ought to commence manufacturing in Great Britain
imiediately. If they are right, I am efraid the advice I have
given ir, Bdlson may not be correct. I wish you would look into
this matter immediately bo far as possible and alvise me. You
will find that I have had some correspondence with Mr. Marks on this
subject, and possibly his lett-rs may be helpful.
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\ ite. Dyer:
: I have gone over the decisions sent by Harris &
Wills, regarding the working of British patents under the new
lav. I do not Pind any case in which it appears that there
had been no importation whatever of the patented ariicles into
Great Britain, and in which the application for revocation
waS opposed on this ground.
I should not, however, consider it a valid defence,
or in dase there had been minufacture outside Great Britain,
pecause the British law provides for revocation in case the
patented article is manufactired exolusively or mainly oute-
side the United Kingdom.
If the artiole is manufactured at aiid outside of
Great Britain, then it is covered by the "exclusively" pro-
vision, whether it is imported into Great Britain or not.
Some patentees have endeavored to save their patents
by showing that the article was manufactured in Great Britain n
as well as abroad, but where the number of articles imported
excecded the number of articles made in Great Britain, the
Controller has held that the article was manufactured mainly
outside of Great Britain and he therefore revoked the patent.
It seems that the only way to avoid revocation is
not only to manufacture in Great Britain but to make more of
the articles there, that is, a greater number of the articles
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there than are4imported into Great Britain, - ‘ ree
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In an application foe revocation granted in Pebruary
last, the argument was made for the patentecs that thore had
been no manufacture any where of the patented article, but
this argument was based upon a fanciful interpretation of the
words "patented articles", the patentec claiming these yvords
to mean an article for which protection is claimed by the
patentee, and that if the patentee does not Labol the articles
as being made under the patent, he is not claiming a protcc~
tion under the patent and is not using the patent, This .
view is not taken by the Gontroller who held that what is
& patented artiole depends upon the specification and o12 ims
of the patent, which seems to be the true view. In this
case it appeared that the patented device was made in Great
Britain only to a small oxtent and there were large importa-
tions, and there Meee also a great many infringing lanps made
in Great Britain. The Controller held that even if 69 per
cent of the lamps that were sold in Great Britain were theres:
manufactured and the remainder imported, this would not go to
show that the patented &rticle was not manufactured minly
abroad, because it would leave altogether out of account ;
the number of lamps which are made abroad and not imported ine
to Great Britain. I do not see how the court could sustain
any such proposition as this, pecause this principle the
Supplying of all the British demands with goods of British
manufacture would not save the patent in case such demand was -
smaller in comparison with the demand in foreign countries
Be
supplied by manufacture in such countries.
However, from reading the decision in this and
_other cases, I am of the opinion that the only way to save
British patents which are being worked at all in foreign
countries, is to supply the entire British market, or at
least more than 50/3 of it, with articles manufactured in
Great Britain, and that such manufacture means the making of
' the several parts there as distinguished from the importing
of the parts and the assembling of them in Great Britain.
-DH/ANTL
Postal Celegraph-CableGompany
Executif Offices
253 BROADWAY
GHARLED FP ORU CW a a: Neu Dork
7/9
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ay 6th, 1909,
uy, Frank L.Dyer,
“RECEIVED.
MAY 71909
FRANK L. DYER,
General Counsel,
Edison Laboretory,
Orange, Hed.
Dear Sir: i
Referring to your letters of February 10th and April 7th:
ly delay in replying has been due to absence on account of illness,
On my return to the office a day or two since, I fing a
report from our Electrical Engineers to the effect that, in their
opinion, the improvement likely to result from the application of
rectifiers to our quedruplexes would hardly be sufficient to war-
rant their adoption,
However, if you desire us to give them a practical trial,
and will send us the necessary apparatus for that purpose, we will
be glad to male the trial, and advise you as to the result.
Yours truly,
Seb OwhKD
Vice President,
enb-mnv
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REFER TO THIN NUMHER FRANK L, DYER,
. IN YOUR REPLY ORANGE, Ne i
sé MEMORANDUM
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Mr, Holden: 6/28/09.
a
T cail your attention to the attaches reissued patent to
Miller, Wo. 12,963, dated lay 25, 1909,“ Running over the alain
hastily gives me the impression thay’the Victor Company have
broadened the original patent tuA tromendous extent. Iowish you
would make #3 Goon as passiblge’a proliminary report on the claims
of this patent, and later on I will have you make a final report,
because T am af
requested Bacon
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REFER TO THIN NUMBER FRANE L. DyER,
OUR REPLY MEMORANDUM ORANGE. N.
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Mr. Dyer Smith: 4s 1/8/09.
You will find t i about 23 years ago, as I remember,
Mr. Edison ohtained two or ‘ceed patents relating to the mamfacture
of plate glass by squirti the liquid glass through a die, and
these patents were assigndd to a number of individuals. After
you have found these patents, bring them to the attention of Mr.
Harry FP. Miller and sce\¥f he can locate any contracts relating
to their use. Mr. Edison tells m that this process is now
being extensively employed in Ohio and he thinks there was a
contract ponder which he was to be paid royalties. I want to
look into the mtter and see if there is anything coming to him.
FLD/TWY Fo. D.
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TO THIA NUMNER PRANK . DYER,
ORANGE, N. J
cans REPLY MEMORANDUM
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Mr. Dyer Smith: 12/20/09.
There is some possibility that the Government may put in
an infringing Giant Roll. Crusher in the Canal Zone. Look up the
patent question and see if it is necessary for us to register our
patents in the Canal Zone in order to give protection,
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Dec. 20, 1909
Mr. Dyer:
In answer to your memorandum 1085 referring to the
possibility of the Government putting in an infringing Giant
Roll Crusher in the Canal Zone, I would say that the patent,
trade mark and copyright laws of the United States were extended
to and made effective within the Canal Zone to the extent that
any patent or copyright issued under the laws of the United
States, or any trade mark duly registered in the Patent Office
Shall vest in the person to whom it is issued or in whose name
registered, his assigns and licensees, subject to the pro-
tection of the Circvit and Supreme Courts of the Canal Zone,
the same exclusive right of property therein that such person
would possess in the United States. This was done by execu-
tive order by authority of the President and signed by Secretary
Taft to become effective April ae. 1907. Apparently, we have
as much protection against the Government under our patents in
the Canal Zone as we have anywhere in the United States. It
seems to me, however, that this is not a great deal of pro-
tection. If they infringe or threaten to infringe, we might
Perhaps enjoin some of the officers of the Government from
infringing further, but I do not think we could ever get any
accounting or any relief except an order preventing the Govern~
#2
ment from using the apparatus. The only way we can make
anything Sit of the Government's desire to use the rolls in the
Zone, if they do a0 desire, would seem to be to meet them
partway and make some arrangement which the Government would
accept.
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Nov. 19th, 1909.
Mr. Selwyn Aucker,
Edgerton, Ohio.
Dear Sir:-
We have received yours of Nov. 15th, and shall i
be pleased to receive your instructions together with the
first fee of $10. at your earliest convenience.
IL. you do not hear from the party-to. hon. you.-- ee
wrote relative to us, please let us know at. once, ‘giving us
his name if you have no objections to doing 50+ There is
of course a chance that some of these ‘inventors have move d ;
or that they would not have time to. answer inquiries reléting
to us, and should you fail to get @ reply ig your letter, we
would suggest that you write to. others. We believe that Mr»
A a Willey, . of Versailles, Tlie, can: give you. an. ‘opinion’:
“as to our ability, ¢ and ‘also Mr. H. H. Dickson, of f Orlando,
Fle. ; ; : ; m Ghe ters oe :
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We note your statement “that. you, contemplate writing _
to Mr ‘Thomas A. Edison for verification of: the sta toment -
that ho. toosivea $36, 000. for. his first. invention. Please af
bear. in nia, “however, thet we do not ‘vouch for the state
ment. thet Mr. Eadpon. Teceived’ $36, 000. for his. invention.
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1909. Phonograph - General (D-09-40)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
technical and commercial development of phonographs. Among the
documents for 1909 are items pertaining to the process of making cylinder
records and to plans for developing diamond reproducing points and disc
phonographs. Also included are letters suggesting new applications or
improvements for the phonograph, to which Edison responded with marginal
comments. Among the correspondents are Edison; Harry F. Miller, his personal
secretary; Frank L. Dyer, president of the National Phonograph Co.; George F.
Scull, assistant to the president; Carl F. Wilson, general manager; and Alphons
Westee, secretary and treasurer.
Approximately 90 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include letters of transmittal and acknowledgment and items
that duplicate information in selected material.
Rie seo
REFER TO TILIN: NUMBER Cer mana FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY
, MEMORANDUM ORANGE. N. J
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Wr. Westee: 1/8/09,
I hand you herewith trial balances of the English,
French and German Companies for the months of September and Octo-~
ber, 1908, just received from bir. Graf, Please let me have a
brief report as to what these shew so that I can submit the same
to Hr. Edison and give him an idea of what the Foreign Companies
were doing during those morths.
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Jan. 12, 1909,
Desr Sir,-
The
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enclosed correspondence will explain it
out
Can you suggest anything to help me
in this matter?
Kindly return the correspondence I have
enclosed with this latter, and oblige
Yours very truly,
asph SMBtong
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Mr. Thos. A. Edison,
Bust Orange, HW. J.
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REFER TO TIN NUMBER FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY ORANGE. N. &
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vr. Harry 7, Miller: DIL 1/18/09.
I hand you herewith Letter from ir. Aylsvorth
asking for an additionul advance on the amount to be padded hin for
his patents when the Ambarol record was siuec esulul, awino a note
from ie. Wdisen explaining hin present understanding of the
arrangenent. I think you had batter keep these for future refer
ence, in case the question ever comes up again. tie. Bdison has
endorsed on lir. Wkavorth's Letter a note to pay him an additional
$5,000.00 on accom t ‘of the patents, and I wish you would make
arrangements with Mr. Edison to have this done. The moncy will
be pid by the New Jersey Patent Co, F.L. D. Enc-=
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Feb, 25,1909,
Prank L. Dyer, Esq.,
o/o Marlborough~Blenheim,
Atlantic City, N.J.
By dear Mr, Dyor:-
I have the honor to report that Mr,
Aylsworth has already put into practice the vecuum method of
withdrawing records from the molds. He believes that it is
a thonoughly practicable conmercial operation, This is being
done, however, without the polygonal cores, but he is working
on these cores, although he does not believe that it is practi=
cal commercially to use them,
Yours very truly,
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Dear Mr. Edison:—
; I am writing to enquire whether it is practicable to record
1 by the phonograph the various sounds of the heart and of the lungs; to
magnify these sounds so as to render them audible in a lecture-room; and to
' use such records for teaching purposes, to illustrate to medical students
the various types of cardiac and respiratory findings obtained by means of
auscultation with the stethoscope. The sounds to be recorded, though not
intense, are fairly clean-cut and of a comparatively simple character;they
can be readily magnified, with an amplifying stethoscope (phonendoscope)
before their direct transmission to the blank record of the phonograph.
. If you regard this scheme as feasible, I.am anxious to
undertake the recording of a series of both normal end pathologic sounds of
the nature above specified, and will be grateful to you for any advice you
may care to offer as to the technio of so doing. :
With thanks in advance for your trouble in this matter,
Thomas A. Edison ip wtON BLY pe
Orange, N. 6 ian 'S
| Very truly yours,
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BARNEY ANDERSEN COMPANY
FEED AND FUEL
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Kindly pardon me for the liberty I an taking
in addressing this letter to you. The reason I write is
that I have a plan for a machine in which your Bhonograph
will play a most important part. :
One of these machines could be installed at every
Penny Arcade, Amusement Park and other public places.
It is on the slot princepal but will be oapable of earning
twice if not four times the amount taken in on the ordinary
slot machines using Song and speach records,
It is some thing that would surely TAKE and it would
be worth your while to investigate my plan.
In return for my plan, providing you can use it, I
will want in your first letter a written agreement that
you will give me free of charge One Edison Home Phono-
graph , Combination Type. and every thing to go with out-
fit priced at $52.50 complete. Also 100 Edison Records
my own selection.
On receipt of such an agreement properly signed I
will write you explaning in full my plan which I am quite
sure will not only be a good money maker for the Edison
Company but also for those in whos places this new machine
is installed.
I have given you the first chance and if I don't hear
from you inside of ten days I will make some other Company
the same offer.
Aug.
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, N. J.
Dear Sir:-
Very truly yours
G. A. LUNDBERG,
i7oo=11th Ave. Zo,
MUNNBAPOLIS, = BMNN,
Phnne*
Op~end
W. R. WILLS
LAPIDARY AND WATGHMAKER
MANUFACTURER OF
ALL KINDS OF FINE JEWELS AND STONE WORK FOR YY
SCIENTIFIC AND MECHANICAL PURPOSES 4“
DIAMOND ORILLS AND CUTTERS A SPECIALTY
BOSTON, MASS........... AVE 0-9..20.5..1909 6... 19
Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
Orange, N.d.
My dear Mr Edison:-—
In regard to the diamond tracker , I
would say that I have been experimenting with it since I
wrote you. I find that they can be made complete ror
about $3.50. Of course, you are well aware that it is
almost an impossibility to put a fine polish on a dia~
mond bali. We can put an extra polish on a diamond
cup and bring it up to a very fine edge. I would suggest
that you make a diamond cutter to out your roll;I think
if it is properly made that it will cut vour roll so
smooth that it will not wear your sapphire ball.
In stating the above price, would sav
that $3.50 would be for large numbers( of course, a small
number would cost more) and this would give you the thing
complete already for the machine.
I would like a small piece of the
material to experiment with,~- that is if you have no
objections.
Yours very truly,
WK Wiley
y . yet
POD Pos Ge fer oS
i. ee Sept. 22,1909,
Mr. Dyer:-
In re. your memo. 869: Hr. Wrady wishes to know
the phonograph which you recommend for the purpose of record-
ing the language of some Asiatic Tribe, which he is about to
investigate, and after consultation with Messrs. Hird and
Zaremba, I think he should be advised that a Standard machine
with a recording horn and reoorder, would fill his require-
ments,
He makes certain other inquiries as to our Asiatic
records, which I can answer, but he also wishes ifr, Edison's
photograph and autograph for the purpose of inserting it
in a book which he igs about to publish. Shall we give him
these latter?
G,F.8,
GTB/ ARK.
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TELEPHONE
Cante Aoatesst” ZYMOTIC,NEW YORK"
‘es 1352 STUYVESANT.
1, A,8.C..COMMERCIAL, LIEBER'S, HUNTING AND WESTERN UNION CODES USED.
Noe
FOREIGN DEPARTMENT
OF THE
Soa NATIONAL FHONOGRAPH CO. on sferonies:
0 Edin. EO TSN MANUFACTURING FO. Saxe
BATES MANUFACTURING EQ.
10 FirtH AVENUE.
EDISON PHONOGRAPHS LONDON, PARIS, BERLIN,
AND RECORDS,
BRUSSELS, SYONEY,
EDISON PROJECTING KINETOSC ges NEW YORK, NY. MEXICO city, :
ANDO ORIGINAL FILMS. BUENOS AIRES.
EDISON PRIMARY BATTERI s
AND FAN MOTOR OUTFITS}
BATES NUMBERING MACHINE ev Mae hy (aA {WY KC Oct. 12-1909,
SUBJECT: INCREASED DUTY ON SAPPHIRE BLANKS.
Mr, J. F. Scull,
Legal Department,
Orange, N. J.
Dear Sir:--
In accordance with your instructions, I have tow
day ineteua ted our Custom Brokers Messrs. Niebrugge & Day, to pay
the advanca duty on the ‘Sapphire Blanks under protest, and have ad-=
vised them that we are placing the matter in the hands of Messrs.
Comstock & Washburn to contest same for our account. The
last mentioned concern‘ are willing to handle the matter upon the
basis of the usual contingent fee ( 50% of the amount recovered).
T enclose herewith, copy of communication ‘received from
Messrs. Wiebrugge & Day, also copy of a letter received from the
Treasury Department addressed to the Collector of Customs, having
reference to this matter. °°
Rarity aah Yours vary a); i
ence/ i ees ee, ie Department.
ADDRESS ALL COMMUNICATIONS TO THE FOREIGN DEPARTMENT.
[ENCLOSURE]
(Copy)
Hiebrugge & Day,
New York, October 8th, 21909.
Mr. Yalter Stevens, Wanugor,
Yoroign Departnont,
National Phono. Co.,
New York City.
Dear Sir:s-
‘Te beg to enclose herewith copy of decision of freasury
Departnent dated October 6th rolative to your Sapphire blanks.
“e obtained an opinion ?rom tiie Collector as follows:=-
Hexrchundise not being seni precious stones-vwould not seen to
be covered by paragraph #112 a 50% Advaloren.
Kot being suitable for use in cannufnaoture of Jewelry: donb
lets, artificial synthetio or reconstructed pearlo, rubies or other
precious otones, would not oeom to be covered by pnragranh £449 at 10
or 40% Advaloren.
Not being ready for ueo as parts of phonogrephn, gyramaphones
graphophones and similar artioclos vould not seem to be covered by
paragroph #468, at 45% Advaloron.
Sho proper rate would seen to be 35% advalozen under paragray
495 as arvicles~--composed of--minerul subataneas<-not deaovratad. ®he
Appraiser roported as Lollovs:~
"Value and beauty make prosiours stones. There ts no herd an
fant rule as to what to prectong or secisprocious. Thig norchandise te
unfit for u gem stone and in the opinion of this office Paragraph #112
ANAEWLYYdad NSISZSHO4
ANVdWOO HdYHDSONOHd IVNOILYN
[ENCLOSURE]
NATIONAL PHONOGRAPH COMPANY
FOREIGN DEPARTMENT
“Be
is proper olassification".
In viow of the decinion of? the Treasury Departnent vill you
kindly take tp the matter of placing this in the honda of your legal
department or Comstock & Washburn upon the basis of usual contingent
fee as it seoms to be clearly intimated by the Troastry Departrcnt
that the matter will have to be trrashed out in the courts and it is
advisable to have tho protest oxzamined by thé attorneys be fore Piling.
Until final decision dutieo will be assessed at the rate of
50% advaloren.
Yours faithfully,
Niebrugge & Day.
[ENCLOSURE]
NATIONAL PHONOGRAPH COMPANY
FOREIGN DEPARTMENT
COSY
90969 69186
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treasury Department,
Office of the Socretary, Yeashington, Oatober 6, 1909.
GK,
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fhe Collector of Custons,
Now York, N.Y.
Sir:e
fhe Departuent is in receipt of your letter of the &7th ultimo.
in whioh, transmitting consular invoice #1753 covering cortain sapph-
ives said to be intended for use in the construction of phonographig
instunent you invite gttention to the appraiser's return of tho merehan:
dise as "Mfrs. Sapohires - 50% - Par. 112".
You suggest that sapphires are procious atones and are accomingly
dutiable under paragraph 95 of the tarif? act of August 5,1909, which
provides for articles composed wholly or in chic? value of oarthy or
minoral substances, it being adsitted that the sapphires in questton
are not suitable for nse in the menufaature o? jewelry.
“hile the dopartuent concurs in your view that ;rocious stones
are dutiahble either méder paragraph 95 or paragraph 449, it is not
seti:fied that the sapphires under congidoretion are in fact precious
stonea, and by reference to the Board's docision of July 16, 1903, Gv.
5362, T.D. 24677, you will observe that it was held that sapphires were
dutiable as procions stones oithor directly or by sinmilitude.
If these stones are only dutiable as precious stones by sinil-
itude und are not in fact precicus atonos, there is sono merit in
the return of the appraiser as secdprecious stoneg under paragraph 112,
anc to the end thnit this questicn may be roviewed by she board, and if,
deexed expedient, by the Courts, you are hereby directod to aesess duty
upon tho sapphi:es covered by invoice #1763 under paragraph 112 at the
rate of 50% advulorem.
The inclosure of your letter ig herewith returned.
Raspectfully,
(Signed) C.D. Hilles,
4eting Socretazy,
C.P.U.
(1 inclosure)
SOV». /Pert-es
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Mr, Dyer :-
October 13, 1909.
Your memorandum herewith: On June 15th,
1909, Mr. Wm. Pelzer, Mr. Westee and yourself, were
elected directors d the La Compania Idison Hispano
Americana, On the same day you were elected Bresi-
dent, Wm. Pelzer, Vice-president, and Mr. Westee
Secretary and Treasurer.
G.F.S.
GFS/ ARK.
Tt wd eee
aul October 19th, 1909,
Mr. Wilsonie
I return you herewith correspendence in
reference to the duty on sapphire blanks. ‘The duty of
50% fixed by the custonna authorities has been protested
and the matter is now in the hands of Comstock & Washburn
on the usual 50% contingent fee.
In reference to your query as to the duty to
be charged on rough sapphires, 1 consulted with hr.
Wiebrugge, one of our custom brokers, and he hus assured
me that rough sapphires would come in free, under Para-
graph 555, "diamonds and other vrecious stones, rough or
uncut and not advunced in condition or value from their
natural state by cleaving, splitting, cutting or other
process, including glaziers' or engruvers' diamonds not
pet." I agree with ir. Niebrugee.
lt sees probable that tne best we can do with
sapphire blanks would be 55% ad valorem.
G. FB, Soull.
GFS/ ARK.
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LAPIDARY AND WATCHMAKER
MANUFAOTURERA OF
ALL wi iS WORK Fi :
SCIENTIFIC AND MECHANICAL PURPOSES
DIAMOND DRILLS AND CUTTERS A SPECIALTY iw Int)
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[ENCLOSURE]
My Mitral Value.
The doctors tell me that my mitral valve has got a little leak,
That the hinge is old and rusty and it has a little creak.
They tell me that the blood regurgitates
Because my little valve don’t closely shut its gates.
They tell me that my heart is big and crowded out of place;
That I must go it very easy and slacken up my pace,
They tell me to go so slow and easy and to keep so very cool
That the world will look in wonder and take me for a fool
They tell me, and sad is it to relate
That if I live to be an hundred, I'll die as sure as fate.
O, these doctors are so funny and yet so very good.
They wouldn't hurt your feelings, not even if they could.
The substance of their story when plainly, frankly told
Is, they gently want to tell me that I am‘ growing old.
Well, I'll admit the facts and allow them to be true
But it does n’t cause me worry, nor does it make me blue;
I've had many years of labor, I’ve had many days of fun,
And the years I've left behind me, they number Seventy-One.
And the years I have before me no prophet can foretell
For I'm feeling young and kiddish, yes, I’m feeling very well.
And so my little valve, just do the best you can
While I conceive and formulate a plan.
You have been so very faithful and been so very true
That I'll go a little slower, and try to favor you.
Yes, I'll go a little slower, I’ll not run up the hill
When I travel on the level, they'll think I’m standing still.
Whatever that I do, I'll not do it to excess
But will imitate the schedule of the B, & A. express.
If I’m due today I'll be along tomorrow,
If I’m not on time no trouble will I borrow;
But be assured my little valve, I will do my level best
: To be a little lazy and let nature do the rest.
WR. Wills.
179 Summer Street,
Boston, Mass.
REFER TO THIN NUMBER
IN YOUR REPLY
MEMORANDUM
973
Nr. Harry FP. Lier:
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Arnone
PRANK L. DYER,
ORANGE. N. de
u/r13/oo.
In connection with tiie perscnal contract betwecn Mr. Bdison
and Fred K, Eavson, which you have on tile, Mr. Babson has vilready
advenccd $10,000 for Mr. Edison's account and has asked me to
have this’ acount pold. Please Let him have a cheok of your early
convenience. Tove explained the matter to Py. Edison and be
approves of this payacnat.
BLD /TV i. Lb. De
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Mr. Weber: 12/15/09.
The following is Mr. Edison's memorandum on the subject
discussed this morning; which you will please keep most confidential:
1. Use top floor of Glen Ridge factory.
Re Start up boiler for heat. Get a fireman who is an engi~
neer, so that when we want power he can run engine.
Be See that there is a Lighting dynamo there when we start
power plant.
4. John Ott will design graphiting machine.
5. John Ott will mkke drawings for copper-plating apparatus
from instructions of Albert Wurth.
6. Walter Miller to give John Ott sketches from which to
design a good recording machine. One will be made, and if 0. K.,
make six more.
7. Walter Willer will make all experimental masters at
Glen Ridge.
8. Design three styles of regular machines, one of which
shall be mounted in a cabinet of a different type from the Vic- ;
trola.
9. Edison to keep at diamond points.
10/: Either purchase the dise machinery of Leeds & Catlin
and ship to Glen Ridge; or if not possible, purchase accumulator
and one press and probably rolls and mixer for regular diso stuff
for experimmt only.
11. Edison and Aylsworth to work up diso with new material.
12. Aiken to be in charge at Glen Ridge, calling upon Pettit
for expert advice and assistance.
As to points 2 and 3 above, I wish you would give them
immediate attention. As to point 10, I am looking up the advis-
ability of purchasing the machinery now and if unsuccessful I will
let you know so that you can order the mohinery direct.
be. LL. D.
(Copy to Mr, Wilson)
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1909. Phonograph - Edison Business Phonograph
Company (D-09-41)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
Edison Business Phonograph Co. Included are items pertaining to company
stockholders and directors, taxes, and sales. Also included are memoranda
concerning research and development and a circular by Edison explaining the
motor sold with the business phonograph. Among the correspondents is Frank
L. Dyer, president of the Edison Business Phonograph Co.
Approximately 80 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected consist primarily of letters of transmittal and
acknowledgement.
—_
[FROM FRANK L. DYER]
fegah
[pe
ee
Board of Assessors of Cook County,
Chicago, Ill.
gentlemen: =
This Company has recently paid taxes for the year
1908, on the valuation of $5000. I write this letter to inform
you that since September 12, 1908, the Wdison Business Phono~
graph Company has not ween engaged in business in the State of
Illinois, and since that tine has owned no property in that
state, having disposed of all its assets in Chicago, which
were all it had in the State of Illinois on the date I have .
given.
I would thank you very much to acknowlddge receipt
of this letter, and also to let me know if your reoords have
been changed to correspond with the facts above set forth, 80
that ‘there will be no assessment against this Company for the
year 1909.
Yours very truly,
President.
HED /MH
Jan. 27, 1909. ©
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Har. &, 1909.
Thomas A. Elison, Wsq.,
LT anclose report on the Edison BSuginess Phonograph
Co.
the mouth of January, 1909, shoving net profits of $601.32.
Of course aba Loss, but there to be a larger
prorit sn total sales of over JL 3090.00. iore and more T an become
dng convinced that in owt cagarness in She pest to meet the ice of
improvenents without corsespondineday
ank vy mldin:
Rnorcusing bho sel#ine price we
otfering too umeh or te moley
4
and offering dealers sutfteiont profit to cuuble thom to
SLL the
evorsPfulle Apndle the business. Tt is eas: cnough te s
T
machines, put the diffieulty is to keep them sold after they are
once pus out.
Yours very truly,
FLD/IWY
Ene-
UVLIOUNT BHOMOCHYBH COWbYMA
REFER TO THIH NUMDER v FRANK L. DYER,
MEMORANDUM
ORANGE, N.
Pa
Mr. Dura 0 3/15/09,
O vou herewith a memorandum from Mr. Walle r’,
br ing up PB algce sion of Mr. Westee, that the Edison Business
onogray eco. should be brought back as a department of the National
Phonoggl is Co. You will remember the separate corporation was
a in order t aa with various State laws when we were ~ : i
Fa rat in cee in different cities. The necessity for
a sepafifte company does not now exist, but my personal opinion
Fh Baas although we might save so-e expense, it would be unwise to
nge back now. However, I would like to have your views in full.
yp FLD/TW . Fei. Dey. an
\eyy ih
Enc- Ms
[ENCLOSURE]
“Myr. Dyer:
Some time ago the matter of discontinuing the Edison Business
Phonograph Co. and simply making this a Department as it was
Me bugger kL
previously. “ir. Westee asked me whether anything had been done.
I believe the idea is that this would do away with a lot of book
keeping and other separate records, thus reducing expense.
3/10/09. I. W. W.
FRANK L.O0YER
230
.
PRESIDENT & GENEMAL COUNSEL,
C.H.WILSON, A. WESTEE,
VICE-PRESIDENT & GENENAL MANAGER. SECHETANY & TREASURER,
EDISON BUSINESS PHONOGRAPH CO.
oi
ORANGE,N.uJ.
MANUFACTURING APPLIANCES FOR THE
EDISON COMMERCIAL SYSTEM
DICTATED TO THE
EDISON BUSINESS
PHONOGRAPH
Cini GE VB June the 7th,
__C.L.H. st ee f “a ate
Mr. Frank I. Dyor,
President.
MR, DYER:
As the proposition which has
peen offered me by another coanpany seens
to be one in which I can wake e much larger
Selary than T am now making, and where it
will undoubtedly benefit me physicully, I
wish to tender my resignation to txuke effect
next Saturday.
I am sure you will not blame me
for taking this step, as it is a watter of
money with me just at present and bright
prospects for a good investment.
Thanking youn for the way you have
treated we in the past, and sincerely trusting
that you will heve tne sane friendly feeling
toward me, I beg to ramain,
Yours very truly
Row $40
Re
June 9, 1909,
i, Charles =. Hibbard,
Factory.
My dear ir. Hibbard!
Your letter of the 7th inst. has been received,
aa, as you have evidently made up your mind at'ter careful consider-
ation, to sever your relations with us, I will have to accept
your resignation. | N
Iovish you svecess in your new field, and an,
Yours very truly, ‘ -
\
PLD/IWY - President. | [
as vvyLiounyr BHOVOCBYbH COWBYNA
Oct. 21,1909 rece fe
Mr. Frank L. Dyer:
Desr Sir;-
I_ quote from a letter just received
from E. C. Barnes, Chicago dealer.
"I understand that the New United
States Phonogreph Company (lr. Hibbard) are
ready to put our their eight minute records
within thirty deys. They have elready begun to
Solicit for commercial machines in Chicago,
Are not promising delivery but just saying
"Wait for it", I haven't seen the men nor have
I heard his name, but several of my customers
have told me about it, "
In this connection I would like to Bey
thet certainly as we have discussed it before
we should have a man designing a complete new
machine for us realizing that it will take a
long time for us to satisfy everyone in regard to
& new Model and try it out,
Is there any hope of heving a person
detailed on this work?
N.C Durand.
GPW
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— Lome GF Odlisore
Qnanges Mp December 15th, 1909,
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
The Universal Electric Motor sold with
my Business Phonograph has been designed
to operate on any class of commercial a
lighting current--whether direct or alter-
nating—-110 or 220 volts without the
substitution of sevarate wire resistances
for different electrical conditions. By
means o€ the one resistance on my Uni-
versal Motor having a sliding contact to
vary it,. all conditions are taken care
of making the motor strict? universal.
Under all of these electrical conditions
the amowmt of. current ordinarily con-
sumed by the Universal Motor has beon
found to be less than one quarter of
anvampere, which is about half of the
current consumption of former motors
Sold with the Businoss Phonograph.
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— Decenber 17th, 1909.
Hire Frank L. Dyer,
President.
Dear Sir;
I understand frow “Mr. Schiffl that he
is about to remove his work to the Laboratory, end
will await instructions from vir. Hdison or yourself
in regard to new work that he is to underteke.
Nothing kas been done es yet upon-my new
Business Phonograph, end I mention this to you so
that one of his first tasks vill be to £0 on with the
design of our new machine.
Yours very truly,
TaLSON o. DURAND.
HOD/aL ny)
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REVVER TO Parikh NUMBER FRANK L. DYER,
IN x6un REPLY ORANGE. Ne be
EMORANDUM
4100 iis
Mr. Durand: coo a 12/27/09.
I hand you herewith a memorandum from Mr. Dyer Smith,
dated December 24th, in which he reports on the patents relating to
alternating current motors. He reaches the conclusion that no
patent exists that contains claims which would be infringed by the
manufacture by us of the motor that Mr. Bliss hes invented. He
refers to a number of patents in his memorandum, and I suggest that
you have him order copies of these patents and submit them to Mr.
Bliss for his examination. _ Possibly Mr. Bliss may be familiar
with them. In view of this memorandum, I do not see any reason why .
you and Mr. Bliss should not go right ahead and formulate your
plans, and after you have done so, bring them up to me and we will
| (2)
: talk them over. What I mean by this is that you and he want to
drav up a complete report as to exactly what you propose to do,
what typos of motors you propose to build, how much machinery
you have to buy, the number of employees that wild be necessary _
and the character of dravings which will have: to’ vo made; and when
you have done this we can take up the matter for ‘Pinal and definite
instructions and then submit the whole thing’ to ur, Edison.
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Deo. 31,1909,
Mr. Dyer:=
Your meuo. No. 1093; I find that according
to the by-laws of the Business Fhonograph Company, the vice-
president must be a director, and therefore, a stockholder.
The only stockholders of reeord are yourself, & shares,
Mr. Wilson, one share, and ‘fr. Westee, one share. The eas-
jest plan to make ifr. Durand vice-president would be to
have ‘ir. Wilson's share transferred to him, and have lr.
Wilson resign as direator, 28 yell as vice-president. If,
however, you wish to eaeaeh Mr. Wilson as a director, we
ean either nomend the by-laws , which san be done by vote of
the directors on thrae days! notice, to ereuide fora
fourth director, or we can remove the condition that the
vice-president shall also be a diractor. nder the laws
of lew Jersey, tha President must be a director, and though
nothing is said of the vice-president, it would seem that
unless you wish Mr. Durand to be Viva=prabident in name only,
he snould have the some qualifications as the president, in
case it should be, necessary for him to act as, president.
I would advise that either ny first suggestion that
fr. Wilson resign as director, or my second suggestion, that
four directors be vrovided for, he adopted.
G. I. Soull. : |
GFS/ ARK. *
1909. Phonograph - Edison Phonograph Works
(D-09-42)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
business of the Edison Phonograph Works. Among the items for 1909 are
memoranda by Peter Weber, superintendent of the Edison Phonograph Works,
regarding shop orders, production schedules, and specifications; letters by
Frank L. Dyer, general manager, concerning stockholders; and a list of
storekeepers by J. M. Zaremba, manager of the Stock Department.
Approximately 40 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include routine memoranda regarding shop orders and
routine letters of transmittal and acknowledgment. Also not selected is
correspondence about labor unions and proposed employee liability legislation
in New Jersey.
wey
. ; é Jan. 14, 1909.
Ur, Watersant Foy Dhow : = Nov :
F - Beginnin; at once, arrange Lor +he Folloring schedule
of maciinas, atsacimants ana partsi-
Si TIACEINSGS:
> Garry 1,000 saecrines in stock, produce parts for 750 ma~
chines (but go slowly on those parts siiat may be changed on a new.
model) and basa tne asserbling of maci:ines on the snipnent of pren~
vious ‘sak.
STANDARD MODIL Bt
This machine will be superseded by tie Hodel C (The Model
C machine is‘ also to be furniaied on orders from the Tecnnical Sup-
ply Company). =- . S :
: .- Hereafter, all top plates for iiodel CG machines saall be
drilled for the comoination attaciment, so thot the Hodel C can be
converted into a Hocel D macnine at any tins.
Arrange tol bring up the regular stock to 1 000 machines,
produce varts for 500 machines, and base tie assenbling on previous
week's siipment. ;
; : 2
STASDARD MODS. D:
Carry in stock 7,500 machines. Produce parts for 2,000
machines per week, and govern the asserbling by previous weoelk's
shipments; so that wns stock of 7,500 zaci.ines pneall be kept in-
tact.
The storelseper sust arranrse tie stock of maciiuines in
suc. a manner ‘M® the oldest mactines will be taken out first
for snipment.
.
Hold MoDaL B:
Wa now have 700 of these in stock. Discontinue making
new main shafts, as we neve a large stock on wand, and we expect
& great many refurned in exchenge for tne 2°87 attaciments. Also
discontinve ‘drilling bodies. : ; 3
The following parts are used exclusivaly on the Hodel B’
machine, and the Assexvly Stock Room has tne following quantities:
Swing arm contercenmsc mene 300 .
Hain shalt centernsenennenccr= 1,000
Lils levers tren =~. 5,500
Tift lever screws & washers-~~10,000
(Taese screws and washers are
also used on tne Business
_ phonograpn) nak
Locking devicennsrtet errr rr 2,000
Locking device springs-~r---2> 1,500
Locking device studsecs--995> 300
Back rodiennw cer cssssecsrr cen 500 ;
Discontinue assembling until stock is reduced to 500; then base
va
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ir, Watarman: Jan. 14, 1909.:
the asserbling on aninmients of pravious week, to keap tris stock
intact,.,
The production of rarts nas. to be governed by tie orders
for oxtra Farts, in addition to sia n ber of machiuinas sizipyed.
HOM MODE C:.
. Acbumulats a stock of 100, auc maintain dts.
TONG MOTMEL DD:
Carry a stock of 3,000. machines. roducs parts for 1,560
machines. per week, and basa the asservling on pr eviews. veel? 8 Bhip-
ments.
Storekeener also arrange is stock so tuat the oldest ma-~
chines. will be the first snipped out.
.
TRIUPH NODSL 3 .
We hava in stock 139 machines.
Discontinus pater re ing or. making parts. until stocl: is re-
duced to 25, unless the filling of repair orders renders it neces-
sary t> make varts heroes G cat tine.
TRIUPHE MODSE Ct
Carry 25 in stock, and only. make parts Sor rapair orders.
TRIUPH MODEL D
Carry 500 in stock, and bring tlroug:. parts for 200 ma-
chines par week, and base asseiubling on previous week's snipnents,
Bo as to maintain a stock of 500.
STANDATD ATTACISALTS :
Discontinue asseribling until stock is reduced to 20,000,
Bring parts tnurough for 5,000 nar week, and govern tha asseribiing
so that tne ‘stock of 20, od0 attaciaents shall be maintainsd.
HOS ATTACH CTANTS 5
Gat vp a stock of 10, ,;000, then produce parts at ture rate
of 2,500 pay week, and base assembling on siiprents of previous
waek.
TRIUPE ATTACIZ ITS:
Get stock ux to 1,000, then produce parts 1% the rate of
500 Der weelt, and asserble bo raplecs srisnents oz previous week.
IDSIA ATTACH ITS
Carry 25 in stock; and base tgmoork asselbling on sniv-
ments of provious sveolc. ‘
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Jon, 14, 190¢
llr. Vaterpionie
HODID FH MEP ie wis:
ee “A ee
Mg We nara avout 30 000 in stock.
. Assalivla at rave ost 5,000 a week.
bbs
Bring parts threw at tha rate of 7,500 ner week.
TODS C Reser onue 375:
Keep up 2 stock o2 10,000,
Ges out borts at tho rate of 5,000 nar week, and base
assertpling on previous wets: aeons e.”
ea oe
SEUL Dovel AP TwsEs O'CLOCH OF SATUTDAYS, and in casa tio schedule
of any of tiiese machines or parts sl.ovwld 2 larga: tlien can be car-
riec out o1 a strictly day-work basis, Lorevien vill please advise
ma abouts it.
ALL WIGHT WORT I9 TO Md SPOPPSN AID Ti UACTONY VILt
tte y
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P. Wainm.
- ee,
Cop; to all Loreen, iessrs, Yowrens, hee: ‘is, Hird, Van Winkle,
Zarariba and Rodfearn.
' Also to Messrs. Dear and ilson, '
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LIST
Not found
Mr. Bradley
ir. Dishaw
iy. Moore
Mr. Hopper
Mr. J. Hooper
ir. Norris
Mr. Holer
Mr. Cuenin
‘
JAN. 25-09,
OF STOREREMPERS,
from Nos. 1 to 4 ind.
" 5 "2250 (8
i 12521 " 2500 "
2 2501 "3750 "
" 3751 "5000 "
" 500 =." 6250 "|
" 6251 "7500 " |
" 750L "8750
" 8751 10000 "
J. M. ZARTMBA,
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Jan, 29, 1909.
TO ALL FORMAL: -
This is to advise you that I have appointed ir. C.
Schiffl my essistant in all engineering work. :
Hereatter all designs of articles nanufacturad will
be made under ‘ils supervision in the Enginesring Dept.
All experimental work must be done in strict accord-
ance with drawings or other instructions supplied by Nr. Schiffl or
myselZ, and under no circumstances snould changes be made in experi~
ales work until such changes have been recorded by him and approved
y me,
As soon as the experimental :iodel has been finished
and accepted, a manufacturing or production order will be placed in
. the shop covering ‘the quantity to be manufactured.
All work necessary to manuzacture products of any
kind must be done in strict accordance with drawings, specifications
and assembling lists furnished by the Chief Dravghtsman, by. HT,
Oliver. :
Should 4% be desired to make any change in.a model which
is being manufactured, tne matter must ba taken up With moe The
change must not be made, however, until you receive from slr. Oliver
a nev drawing, specification or List showing the change.
' PRTER Weber,
Copy to Messrs. Dyer and Wilson. —
PUA TB
vt
909 Fob. 2, 1909.
{ om eas ys (VWQopree
:
Referring to the factory schedulo for machinss and
parts called for by my memorandum of January 14, please note that
the same is hereby withdrawn and that tho following schedule takes
its place:-
Mr. Waterman! ~
Gif PHONOGRAPHS: Carry 500 in stock, ready for snipment,
and 500 more in Testing Departmant, ready to be daliverad to Stock
Rocm when required. Carry finished parts in stock sufficient to as~-
Berible 1,000 machines, but go slowly on such parts as may be changed .
when the combination machine is’ adopted. Base assembling on ship-
ments mads during previous week.
STANDARD PHOMOGRAPHS, i10DSL C: Carry 500 in stock, ready
for shipment, and 500 in Testing Departn2nt, ready to be delivered
to Stock Room when required. Carry finisied parts in stock, suffi-
cient to assemble 2,000 machines. Base’ asseribling of machines on
shipments made during the previous week.
- STANDARD PHONOGRAPHS, WQDEL D: Carry 1,000 in stock ready
for snipuent, and 1,000 in Testing Department, roady to be delivered
to Stock Room waen required. Carry finished parts in Btock, suffi-~-
cient for 5,000 machines. Base assembling of machines on shipments
mads during the previous week. , :
HOME PHOMOGRAPH, MOD B: Carry 150 in stock, ready for
Bhipment, and 100 in Testing Department, ready to be delivered to
Stock Room when required. ‘Garry sufficient finished parts in stock
to assemble 1,000 machiness Base assembling of machines on ship-
ments made during previous week. :
HO? PHONOGRAPH, MODAL C: Garry 25 in shag ae | ready for
shipment, and 25 in Testing Department, ready to be de ivered to
Stock Room when required. Carry finished parts in stock, suffi-
cient to assemble 250 machines. Base assembling of machines on
shipments of previous week.
HOM PHONOGRAPH, MOD#L D: Carry 1,00f) in stock, ready
for shipment, and 1000 in Testing Department, ready ‘to be de~
livared to Stock Room wien required. Carry sufficient finished
parts in stock to assemble 5 000 machines. Base assembling of
machines on gaipmantsof previous week.
TRIUMPH PHOHOGRAPHS, MODEL B: Carry 25 in stock. Base
assembling and finished parts ¢n shipments of previous week.
_ TRIUMPH PRONOGRAPHS, HODSL ¢: Carry 10 in stock ready
for shipment, ard 10 in Testing Departient, ready to be delivered
to stock waen required. ‘Carry sufficient Pinished parts in stoc
to asseuble 100 machines. Base assembling on snipments made dur-
ing previous week. 7 : :
TRIUMPH PROSOGRAPHS, HODEL Ds Carry 100 in stock, ready
for siipment, and 100 in esting Department, ready to be. delivered
bo stock Wien required. Carry sufficient finisbed parts in as
to assenble'1,000 machines. Beno-aaseubling on shipments ma
during previous wealce :
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Mr. Waterman:- Fob. 2, 1909.
STAHDARD ATTACHYENTS: Discontinue assembling altogether.
until present stock of finished attachnents is reduced to 5,000.
Then baso assembling on weekly shipments. Carry sufficient Pinished
parts in stock to asserble 10,000 machines.
HOMH ATTAGIZIEITS: Discontinus assembling altogether until
present stock of finishad attacimants is raducsd to 5,000. Base
assembling on weekly siiipnents. Carry sufficient finished parts in
stock to assemble 10,000 machines.
TRIUHPH ATTAGIENETS: Discontinue assembling altogether un-~
til prasent stock is reduced to 500. Base assembling on weakly ship-
mants. Carry finkh&nod parts in stock, sufficient to assemble 2,500
machines. ;
RAPRODUCINS, MOMd, C: After providing for all machines
complete excent reproducers, We nave a stock of 10,472. This is
sufficient for zrasont require:ients, therefore, the quantity to be
gotten out weekly sould ba based on shipments, so that the amount
in stock can pe kept up to 10,000. ,
REPRODUCERS, MODEL H: After providing for all machines
and attaciuaents conplate excapt reproducers, we have a stock of
9,979. Tais is pufvicient for prasent requiranents, therefore, the
quanthty to be gotten out weekly snovld be based on Buiipments, s0
that thus amount in stock can be kept up to about 10,000.
In arranging to carry and accwiwlate the diffarent quanta~
ties of machinas and attacimien
tities already in stock should be taken into consiceration, and if
thers ava more in stock than the number called for, no more sould
be assoeriblad until stock is reduced to quantities specified, or if
thera im are less in stook tnan called for, only a sufficient addi«.
tional numbar suould bs’ adsenbled to bring the total quantity up
to the amount specified. Ags quantitios galled for, to be kept in
stock, ara neducad by waekly shipments, additional ones should come
tarough to keep the stock up to the specified numbsr.
‘PATE WEBER.
Copy to all foramen and Hossrs- Hird, Zaremba, Leeming, Youmans,
Redvearn and Van Winkle.
Also Measra, Dyar and Wilson.
i
ts above specified for stock, the quan-
~~
alg San
TO ALL FOREUEIH: ~
‘Please note that the fol
rea Sat |
ba closed February 28, 1909.
b TAE, One. —Or9
1909 Feb. 26, 1909. J
lowing shop ordars will
cate
tee ee
The name opposits avery nunber signifies to whom the order
bearing that number was issued:~
3388, Brodie,
3389, Jamison,
3390, Schiffl,
3392, J. Riley
722, Driscoll
Driscoll, 723,
732, Goodwin
733, B. L. Williams, 52
734, Driscoll,
736, J.Riley,
Schize1, 737,
738, A. Wurth,
739, A. Wurth,
740, Nehr,
74%, Nehr,
742, Nonr,
743, Sturm,
144, Sturm,
745, Sturm,
746, Sturm,
747, Sturm,
748, Sins,
2291, Driscoll,
2408, Gall,
2487, Baldwin,
2488, Luhr,
2492, Loder,
2517, O. Weber,
2518, O° Weber,
251.9, QO. Webar,
2520, Watsrman,
2521, Watorman,
2523, Goodwin,’
2524, Goodvin,
2525, McCulloch, 2953) NeCullouch
a
EDISON HANUPACTUNII'G COMPANY:
5593, Dishav,
5594, Brodie,
5395, Brodie, . 5410, Dally,”
2396, Brodis, 3411, J. Pelzer;
NATIOFAL PHOWVOGRAPH COMPAXY:
3597, Googrin,
3398, Dishaw,.
749, Digshnav, 827, Nehr,
"50, ¥ H. llier, 842) Yurth
rol, VW. E. Miller, ee Goodwin,
V. H. Miller 847) Goodvin
53) Mehr, i 853, Goodwin;
"54, C0. Payne, 856, lHcCullouch,
"55, Goodwin, - : 860, Dempsey, _.
"56, A. Wurth, 870, B.:L. Williams,
57, HeCullouch, bie Ni das er
‘59, Byrnes 87 o Le ¥ ems
a, ten, i 3 875; one y :
é2, Wurth Bl, Goodwin
"41 Wy H, Willer, 85, Hird, ’
poe HeCvlioucn, Hn ao
VE, EROS 2) Sins
"66, Aylesworth, 896, Nottie
"OL; Walter iiller, | 899) Driscoll,
r93, Moyar
£4, Go odwin, ;
“SDISON “PHONOGEAPH WORKS ;
900, Goodwins
2640, Requa, £887, Dempsey,
2¢47, Nehr, 2890, Lubr, |
é739, Nehr,. 2391, Luar,
2799, Nohr, 2894, 0. Weber,
2847, Dr. Tessier 2992, Driscoll. |
2849, buhr, 2903, B. lL. Willaams, 9
6935, Ajleacorth 2904, Traghagen,
2947, Bil. Williams, £909, Hepworth,
9948, 3. L. Willions, 2913, Driscoll,
2249, B. L. Witiona, 2017, W. Willidns, |
Z9SL; NoCullouch, Basa) Lahr,
2350, Dero
2952, NeCullouch, pe eas
Anna,
25
. (2) Feb.
TO ALL FORGET:
2526, NeCvil1 ouch, 2978, Tlivbard,
2527, >riscoll, 2595, Driscoll,
2528, Dempsey, 2522, Wurth,
2529, Helone, 2633, Nottie,
2530, Parkuarst, 2630, “aserman,
2552 Parkhurst, 2638 HeCullozeh,
2533, Parkhurst, 2656, 0, Webor,
2554, Barber 2662, Goodwin,
2535, 2679, Oliver
2536) 2685, Driscoli,
2537, 2690, Goodwin
2538, 2696, Lune,
2540, 3 2697, Otto Veber,
2541, 2 2710, Eilar,
2542, | 2728, O3t,
2543, 2729, Luor,
2544) 2738, Lodar
2545, 2745, 3. 2. Willians,
2546, 2750, Baldwin, ;
2547, 2757, Schifs1}
2548, 2764, Scnirs1,
2549, i 2767, Reaua
2550, Heri2ton, 2772, 0. Waber,
£551, Bradloy 2786, Baldwin,.
2553, 3. I. Wliiiaw2788) Nenr,
2554, NeCxllowc:, 28207 Halot
2555, intwistle,' 2824). tuenstor,
2559, Doda, 2833, Goodwin,
2561, Traphagen, 2835, 0. Veber,
2565, Requa, 2850 Driscoll,
2564, Disuay, 2842, Luhr,
2577, Gall, 2862, Coodvin,
2636, Barbor, 2363, Luhr,
2637, Raqua, 2872, Nottie,
2639, iorris, 2880, Baldvin,.
‘
26, 1809,
2963, Driscoll,
2965, 0. Weber
2967, Goodwin,
2973, 0. Wobar
2976, 3, 3. Wiliiene,
2984, HeCullouch,
2985, Luur
Ly _ 8012, Espvorth,
30L6, Gall;
3026, 3. I Willians,
3042, BT. Williaus,.
3054, Otto Webar,
3057, Goodwin,
4002, Lodar,
4003, Sins,
4004, Driscoll,
4006, 3. I, Vellans,
4008, Loder,
4020, 3. T. Williams,
4014, Waterman,
4015, Goodwin,
4016, 0. Weber,
4020, Driscoll,
4021 ,. Oliver
4026,. Driscoll,
4029, Driscoll,
4050, Driscoll,
4034, Driacall,
In future, no Labor or material ean ba charged on. the .
ZL0p ordars enumorated anova.
If any ong or riove of theso shop orders B20uUld not be
closad, that-.is, 12 the work coverad by any of these shop orders
has not yet den conplatad, notify this offics at once. :
Also turn into this oftics all other Bop orders that
you may
plotad and wiich can be closed,
ava in vour possession on waieh thea work has been com
Strict attonsion mast %3 given to the abova.
PTeR VWEBin,
Gan!l Supt.
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Wax
[FROM FRANK L. DYER]
a pr nee oe
REFER TO THIN NUMBER AR Shine. eltrenedgs
aU MEMORANDUM ORANGE. N.
478
Mr. Westee:
Regarding the attached Letter from
of New York, EI suggest you write Mr. Ney
and saying:
"It does not appear from the buoky/of the Edison Phonograph Works
that the Guevantee Trust Co. of New Y4rk is a stockholder of record
and hence no stautgasnt of ow Lincikglal condition coula be properly
given you. I would sey, however, /that since August, 1907, no
such statement has been issued, cfeept to the reguiar Cormercial
Agencies, from whom you can obtsuAén s copy of thea renort, or, ve
would be glad to send youfea coyY ahould it appesar that you represent
a bonn fide stockholder ."
Do you see ay ovje
Street having a report o
undoubtedly get a copy f
you, let me know,
%O saying the above? Dur and Brad-
e Works, the Guarantee Trust Co. could
them. If any objection occurs: to
FID/TW! Boi. De
Ince
>
FITCH, SLATER & RANDALL
ATTORNEYS & COUNSELORS AT LAW
FRANCIS FITCH 30 BROAD ST.NEW YORK
SAMUEL S.SLATER
ELEPHONE CONNECTION
FREDERICK S.RANDALL & MONE S
CABLE ADORES® “FITRLARAN NEW YORK
BeBe
October 29, 1909,
Frank L. Dyer, Esq.,
Edison Phonograph Works,
Orange, HW. J. j
FRANK Lo vysy j
Ly dear Mr. Dyer:~ | - went
I am preparing some affidavits in the case of the
_ Guaranty Trust Company vs. Lynch relating to the Edison Phonograph
Works stock and desire the following information:
What are the numbers of the stock certificates
representing the 1440 shares, which were held by the Guaranty
Trust Company prior to January, 1909? How many were there of
them and how many shares did each represent.
You will nave no difficulty in giving me these numbers
with reference to 1430 shares and the other ten shares were
represented by two certificates, one of which was issued to Paul
C, Morf and the other to E. D, Phillips, each for five shares,
I have learned that the gentleman, who came and demanded the
transfer of five shares to himself and requested a statement
as to-the condition of the company, is an employee of the
Guaranty Trust Company. Inasmuch as you have issued this
statement showing generally the condition of the company to
these people, I see no reason why I should not ask you to send me
a copy of it. I desire to inspect it so that I may discuss the
matter intelligently and I do not want it for the purpose of
using it in any contemplated action against the Edison Phonograph
Pe ee
Works.
The matter of adjustment with the parties involved of
our respective interests so that a sale may be made of the Works
stock is proceeding slowly and I am a good deal discouraged over
it. Any you can possibly do this for me to-morrow, so that I
may have it here Monday, I will be grateful.
Very truly yours,
~ “a
FA —Hited HMK
a Fk
any Arcepebagebons Qo wn,
4
ie foul, Vaan if Ss oy / / 7. Cgern fony ha
Poe Jee ifiiae we Ne J23
D3 Pheer, a 4 > a?)
Form 21
ae EDISON PHONOGRAPH
Francis Fitch, Esq.,
3C Broad Street,
New York, N.Y.
My dear Mr. Pitchi-
Yours of the
WORKS.
L
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eas
D OW, oe i 4
Nov.1,1909.
29th ult. was duly
received, but I was away from the office on Saturday
and could not answer it then.
shares of Edison Phonograph Works stock, standing
in the name of the International Graphophone Company
I find that the 1430
are divided into two certificates, the first Mo. 77
for 520 shares, and the second No, 84 for 910 shares.
Certificate No. 119 was originally issued to Mr.
Paul C, Worf for 6 shares, but wae cancelled and a
‘new certiticate No. 127 was issued to George R. Kissan.
Certificate No, 120 for 5 shares wos issued to H.D.
Phillips.
in giving you this information, I do so
with the understanding that it is not to be used for
the purpose of any oontemplated
Edison Phonograph Works, but solely for the purpose
of effecting, if possible, an adjustment of the stook
action against the
question, concerning which we have already had some
correspondence.
Yours very truly,
FLD/ARK. S
_.. General Manager
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1909. Radio (D-09-43)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
technical and commercial development of wireless telegraphy or radio. The
items for 1909 consist primarily of correspondence with the Marconi Wireless
Telegraph Co. of America regarding the renewal of notes held by Edison. Also
included are letters of inquiry and items pertaining to former Edison associate,
Patrick B. Delany, and his "telepost" system.
Approximately 40 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include unsolicited inquiries and most of the
communications of the Marconi company.
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ALL COMMUNICATIONS SHOULD GE ADDRESSED TO THE COMPANY, c
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wcerenMARCON'. Ladi bourt Building, TELEPHONES, 2243 } BROAD.
1ON AND A.B.cC, 4 Vaya 4 yy e 5546
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Thomas A. Edison, Esqe, ik . € we | i »
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Llewellyn Park, fb yy ; \
Orange, Nede Q ee d 4
Dear Sir: (\pue a :
When in October last I wrote you aekend that the note of
this Company held by you and due November lst, should be extended
for a year, I fully expected that long ere this certain work, par-
tially arranged for by Come Marconi and which would have brought
in a large amount of money from the equipment, would have been com=
pleted, and that therefore no trouble would have arisen in meeting
this note due May lst,
For reasons which it is not necessary to give to you, as
an inventor, my expectations have not been realized, and while I
am about able to take care of the running expenses of this Company,
extra matters, such as your note, are today slightly beyond me,
/ I am therefore writing to ask if you would kindly renew this note
TAB, -2=
falling due May lst for one year, provided that interest is paid
at the rate of 6% per annum.
The equipment which I spoke of above is, for the present,
not a matter to place on paper, but if you desire I will personal-
ly communicate it to you.
As I expect to be called to England and to be away dur-
ing the month of April, I write at this early date so that I may
be apprised of your good will prior to sailing.
Yours faithfully,
MARCONI WIRELESS TELEG: Cc OF AMERICA.
- ee
Vice-Presidente
[FROM GEORGE F. SCULL]
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:
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fir. A.C. Clebel,
Old Curiosity Shop,
Vauchula, Florida.
1 Dear Sir:-
Mr. Dyer has received yours of the 15th inst.
‘in reference to the value of shares in the Marconi Wireless
Company of England, and directs me to say that Mr. Edison
is not interested financially in either this company or the
corresponding company of the United States, although he has
sold them an invention. Myr. Dyer is of the opinion that
the value of the shares in the Wireless Companies is largely
a speculative one, although of course, there is a possibility
of large a6eaene if the plans of the promotors work out
successfully, the risk in regard to this, however, being
a large one.
Yours very truly,
OfPresident .
GPS/ARK. .”
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1909. Reiff, Josiah C. (D-09-44)
This folder contains correspondence by Josiah C. Reiff, a longtime
associate of Edison who was involved in protracted litigation (George
Harrington, Josiah C. Reiff. and Thomas A. Edison v. Atlantic and Pacific
Telegraph Co. et al.) arising from Edison's telegraph work during the 1870s.
Among the items for 1909 are requests for loans and other favors from
Edison, as well as updates on the progress of litigation. Some of the letters
contain marginal notes by Edison, agreeing to loans or discussing other
matters.
Approximately 30 percent of the documents have been selected. The
unselected items consist of letters from Reiff that duplicate information in
selected material or that discuss the progress of the litigation but do not
involve Edison directly.
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oMvice, No. 10 Mitth Ave., on Ehuved any
Alth, at $ o'eleek, in order tink va on
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Mr, Dyer Smith: 6/5/09.
Regarding your memorandum of yesterday, I suggest
that you telephone Mr. Reiff that Mr. R. N. Dyer is not doing
regular work for us and therefore wo have no control over his
time and that I do not see very well how he could be asked
to look into the matter for Mr. Reiff.
FLD/LWW Fo. De.
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J.C. REIFF,
20 BROAD STREET
TELEPHONE, 754 RECTOR.
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1909. West Orange Laboratory (D-09-45)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
operation of the West Orange laboratory. Included are items regarding drilling
equipment, other instruments, and chemicals and supplies, as well as letters
from suppliers acknowledging the receipt of Edison's notes in lieu of immediate
payment. .
Approximately 10 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include statements, price quotations, acknowledgments and
receipts, bills of lading, and routine correspondence pertaining to supplies and
equipment.
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Tags on dy. tts
THE DIAMOND DRILL CARBON Co.
DIRECT RECEIVERS OF CARBON (BLACK DIAMONDS) °
BRIDGE ARCH 17, (FRANKFORT STREET) iiq|o4
NEW YORK, N. Y.
A.B. Sina apie sae LINNNIs New York, Jan. 15th, ie
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pi oer hed owe bod ee
t ig? a) okie
Mr. Thos. A.» Edison, to th DD tecarernats et Pe. eee Abe
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Dear. Sir t= Zh. Lor.ll. a meee
reg tes 60
We Deg to advide you that we have thie~day receizad e
He PO He SOE Pe OEE RU BE EOE RK
shipment of carbon on which we quote the fellowing: the
ere tal
1 karat ~—— $40. per kt. Coew C
wb” — 50, 0 » ¢
13 &@12 kta. 60. 4 18
2 to 3 " m2. "
Your attention is respectfully called to the fact that while
these price 8 are positively know by us to be from ten to fifteen
dollars a karat lower than others are selling these same goods for,
we wish particularly to impress upon you that they are équal in every
particular to the very best that oan be had and, in proof, we should
gladly submit for your approval a parcel of such sizes as you may
feel interested in.
Trusting to be favored with your future orders, we are
Very truly yours,
THE DIAMOND a 00.
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W. B. Gitmorg, Pres. Joun E Hxtat, V-Pres. A. Wustnr, Sec*y-Treas.
RT PRINTER OS
STATIONERS
ann PVBLISHER.S
SwoStundred and Siteen Market Street”
Lelephone No 530
February 234, 1909,
Mr, Peter Brady,
Edison Laboratory,
Orange, NH: J,
Dear Sir:-
We will be pleased to furnish
2 bill heads, form 10, not padded, for $4.50,
Loy! Form 1, Daily Time Tickets
padded in 100’s, for $12.50, Subsequent lots
$11.50.
Hoping these prices will bo
satisfactory, and we shallbe favared with your
order, we remain,
Very truly yours,
THE ESSEX P s§,
EME /AMS GEN'L MGR,
oie b gent ADDRESS ALL COMMUNICATIONS TO THE COMPANY.
Gedordl Sieel Loundifbeny CLL, L) -
AManufactarersiof,
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KLE lan Lice D-D bhodtet: Sz Merch 9 > 190 9,
ir. HF. Miller, Secretary,
ir. Thoma A, Edison
Orange, NJ,
ear Sin
Wa bez vo aclnowledge receipt of your favor of the 8th inst.,
and no & tnat you have forwarded notes maitioned to Mr, Edison, at
Florida, forhis sig mture, and trust the same will arrive sip rly,
Yours very truly,
ie GY CO.,
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etations cubjnt torhange withgud neti.
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Lebovetory of Thomas A, Baison, fit
Orange, I. J, :
Gentlemen; ant
We have your letter of the 19th by Nr, Miller
and observe note has been sent South to Mr, Edison for hig
Signature, We ‘hope this will come through. quickly, As
Stated in our letter, we wanted to use this naper Saturday,
We have some heavy metal bills to pry this week and we hope
you'will be able to let us haye it ut the firat possible
moment,
Yours truly,
Ete hon TSH
Phra: Beak
Chamber of Commerre of the State of New Pork
Founded April 5th, 1760, Incorporated by George IIL., Alarch 13th, 1776,
Re-Incarporated bg the State o& New Pork, April 13th, T7B4;
J. Epwann SimMONS, President,
Vice-Presidenta,
Conne.ius N. Bi1s3, Josern H. Cioate,
WiLttam ButLen Duncan, Gustay H. Scrwan,
Sern Low, GroraE F, SEWAnp,
Joun Crospy Brown, CLEVELAND H. Dovag,
WILLiaM Bavarp Curtina, JAMES J. HILt,
Gxronoe F, Barn.
Wittiam H, Ponren, Treaaurer. N ris Pork, 24th March 1909 .
Sereno 8. Pratt, Secretary.
‘Dear Sir:
IT beg you to accept our thanks for your letter
of March 22nd, with enclosures and information concerning
the samples of sapphire handed to you some time since.
We have written to Mr. P. J. Monahan of Clermont,
Australia, and suggested that he communicate with the
National Pnonograpn Company direct.
Yours very Of,
H. FP. Miller, Hsq., Secretary
Laboratory of Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, New Jerseye
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OABLHY ADDRESS: NORLOM DENOKLA BUILDING
WESTERN UNION cop Ne W. COR, limt AND MARKET STS.
THE NORBOM ENGINEERING CO.
INCORPORATED
ENGINEERS AND CONTRACTORS
PHILADELPHIA, Paw kivvch 30, 1909.
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Orange, N.d.
Dear Sir:-
Referring to our invoice of Februucy 27th for accowt of?
Thomas A. Zdison, and agreement to accept three and four months
note thirty days after date of invoice, we hope it will be
convenient for you to let us have these by Thursday, as we have a
number of heavy abiipabiona to ineet, and would like to discount
the paper on that date.
Youry very truly,
THR NORBOM SNGINUERING Co.
Ceuta Qopiceye
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CREOSOTE OIL, TAR AND PITCH, DWIAY ‘TAND“TITLE-BUILDING? PHILADELPHIA,
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the fractions obtained in the first ig illation of coal vat
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Dear Sirs:
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two fractions in their cnstiniatlf per ae tee peing thd itght oll, orf shat |
Which is of a lighter gravity tna 3 Sr) ey the ses being taken off
as creosote or heavy oil. A small amount of coal ta present is being
distilled with three fractions of the oil; in these cases, the first part of
the heavy oil is collected separately, Kindly advise us whether these are
the oils of which you wish samples. You must bear in mind in this work that
these oils would vary considerably, depending upon the tar they were dis-
tilled from, and this woulda depend on the works from which the oils were ob-
tained. Therefore, a sample of these oils obtained from us at this time
might not represent the materials you would obtain at some future date, if
purchasing in large quantities. We await your further advice before send-
ing you any of these products.
Respectfully yours,
BARRET? MANUFACTURING CO.
ys 57 Asst. Mgr.
BANG , a ci ee : LA
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BEOFORD MCNEILS, W.U.T, + CABLE ADDRESS "TRAYLORIAN”
< TRAYLOR ENGINEERING COMPANY, commeco..
O (INCORPORATED) FOR DOMESTIC OR
MANUFACTURERS, CONTRACTORS AND CONSULTING ENGINEERS.
WORKS AT ALLENTOWN, PA, CYANIDE MILLS
ORE AND STONE CAUSHING PLANTS
FUEL & COAL BRIQUETTING ,SUGAR
& CEMENT MACHINERY.
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MADE CONTINGENT OFON COMPLETE SMELTING AND
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CAUSES BEYOND OUR CONTROL. ‘ COMPLETE ERECTED PLANTS
QUOTATIONS SUBJECT ‘he IMPORTANT. 7
CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE, Aadrese: Yous Re a
Ply to the Company f
and refer fo the Writer, ALLENTOWN, PA. June end/09. wg
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, N.J.
Dear Sir:~
We acknowledge receipt of note dated May 22na
due August 20th-09 for $1028.97 and note dated May 22nd
due Sept. 20th-09 for $1054.04, same'to take care of°
invoices of April 15th and 22nd and interest on notes
at the rate of 6% per amum until the maturity of seme.
We have credited this remittance to your account
with thanks and appreciate very much your prompt response.
Very truly,
TRAYLOR ENGINEERING COMPANY.
Peg One
Assistant Treasurer. eer
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CREOSOTE OlL, TAR AND PITCH. SCANDZTITLE-RUILDING<RHMILADELPHIA,
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Laboratory of Thomas A, Edison, (ue as fe j :
Orange, NeJ.
Dear Sire:
We bez to acknowledge receipt of yours of the 4th inst., ex-
Plaining the substances which Mr, Edison is anxious to obtain in order to
do further work upon,
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products are high boiling ones, and would come principally from very high
boiling Creosote Oils, more properly called Anthracens Oils, <A very small
amount of this oil is Obtained in this country, and our branch at Johnstown,
Pa, Probably has the heaviest oil of any. We should be pleased to send
you whatever quantity Mr, Edison may need of our Light Oil and Creosote Oil,
and suggest that you obtain the heavy Anthracene Oil from our Johnstown
branch. Kindly advise whether you wish 20 gallons each of Lignt O11 ana
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DOCUMENT FILE SERIES
1910
1910. Automobile - General (D-10-01)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the design and
operation of automobiles and the use of storage batteries in electric vehicles. Among the items for
1910 are documents pertaining to Edison's research into the number of electric vehicles on the road
and the experience of their owners with lead storage batteries. Other letters deal with Edison's
promotion of trucks using his storage battery. At the end of the folder is an undated draft in Edison's
hand of a circular for an “Electric Automobile with the New Edison Battery." Among the
correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president and general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery
Co., and William G. Bee, sales manager. There are also numerous letters by automobile
manufacturers such as Babcock Electric Carriage Co., Electric Vehicle Co., Studebaker Automobile
Co., and Waverly Co.; and by individual owners of electric vehicles. Invoices and account sheets that
pertain to the upkeep of Edison's automobiles can be found in D-10-42 (Glenmont).
1910. Automobile - Anderson Carriage Company (D-10-02)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the use of Edison
storage batteries in electric vehicles made by the Anderson Carriage Co. in Detroit, Michigan.
Included are notes by Edison regarding the weight and efficiency of the vehicles, as well as
correspondence with William C. Anderson, president of the company, about the outfit, performance,
and promotion of its Detroit Electric automobile.
1910. Automobile - Lansden Company (D-10-03)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the
Lansden Co., a manufacturer of electric wagons in which Edison possessed a controlling interest.
Included is an audit report prepared by the accounting firm of Lybrand, Ross Bros. & Montgomery.
Also included are memoranda and financial statements and a summary of orders completed and
received. In addition there are numerous documents pertaining to the promotion of Lansden
vehicles. At the end of the folder is an undated draft in Edison's hand of a promotional article
regarding the use of the Edison storage battery in Lansden wagons. Among the correspondents are
Frank L. Dyer, president of the National Phonograph Co. and vice president of the Edison Storage
Battery Co.; Leonard C. McChesney, head of the Advertising Department; and John M. Lansden, Jr.,
and other officials of the Lansden Co.
1910. Battery - Primary (D-10-04)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the primary batteries
produced by the Edison Manufacturing Co. The items for 1910 pertain to the manufacture and design
of batteries and to sales arrangements with licensed dealers and agencies. Among the
correspondents is Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.
1910. Battery - Storage - General (D-10-05)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the commercial and
technical development of Edison's alkaline storage battery. Among the documents for 1910 are
numerous items in Edison's hand, including a 20-page draft letter to Samuel Insull urging him to
promote the battery among "our central station people" and a memorandum regarding the proposed
guarantee on his battery. There are also documents pertaining to the manufacture of batteries and
the finances of the Edison Storage Battery Co., along with letters concerning the use of the battery
in submarines, buses, streetcars, railroads, and other applications. Some of the letters refer to the
proposed use of the battery with the Klaxon automobile horn invented by Miller Reese Hutchison.
Also included are numerous unsolicited requests for information about the battery, some with
marginal notes by Edison. At the end of the folder is an undated typescript containing "instructions
for the proper care of Edison storage batteries" and comparing the Edison battery to the Exide
battery manufactured by the Electric Storage Battery Co. Among the correspondents are Frank L.
Dyer, vice president and general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co.; William G. Bee, sales
manager; and business associates Ralph H. Beach, Cornelius J. Field, Miller Reese Hutchison,
Samuel Insull, Frank J. Sprague, and Walter E. Holland.
1910. Battery - Storage - Federal Storage Battery
Car Company (D-10-06)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical and
commercial development of battery-powered streetcars by Ralph H. Beach and his Federal Storage
Battery Car Co. Included is correspondence by Edison, Beach, and Frank L. Dyer, vice president and
general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co., pertaining to streetcar design, performance,
manufacture, sales, and promotion. Some of the letters express Edison's concern about the
exaggerated claims made by Beach regarding the life of the Edison storage battery.
1910. Battery - Storage - Foreign - General (D-10-07)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the patenting,
manufacture, and sale of Edison storage batteries in countries other than the United States and
Germany. Some of the letters refer to the marketing of storage batteries and the promotion of the
streetcar business in Japan. There is also a reference to the battery business of Edison's former
secretary, Alfred O. Tate, in Toronto, Canada. Among the correspondents are Herman E. Dick, John
T. Morrow, H. F. Parshall, J. P. Morgan & Co. of New York, and Morgan, Grenfell & Co. of London.
Also included is correspondence with W. R. Grace & Co. and Agar, Cross & Co. regarding sales
tights for South America.
1910. Battery - Storage - Foreign - Bergmann, Sigmund (D-10-08)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the manufacture and
Sale of Edison storage batteries by Sigmund Bergmann and his Deutsche Edison-Accumulatoren-Co.
Included are items pertaining to machinery and material for the batteries, the outfitting of the
Bergmann Electrical Works, the finances of the Deutsche Edison-Accumulatoren-Co., and the use
of storage batteries in streetcars. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president of
the Edison Storage Battery Co., and O. A. Rogers, who was sent to Berlin to assist Bergmann in
preparing machine tools for the improved battery.
1910. Battery - Storage - Foreign - Moyes, John W. (D-10-09)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to John W. Moyes of
Toronto, Canada, and his negotiations with the Edison Storage Battery Co. for the manufacture and
sale of storage batteries in Canada. Included are versions of an agreement between Moyes and
Edison, correspondence between Moyes and Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Storage
Battery Co.; and items pertaining to Moyes's interest in obtaining the Canadian rights to Edison's
cement patents.
1910. Battery - Storage - Metals (D-10-10)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's interest in
obtaining metals such as lithium, cobalt, and bismuth for possible use in his alkaline storage battery.
The correspondents include American Smelting and Refining Co., E. Schaaf-Regelman, and Merck
& Co. There are also letters from individuals possessing information about sources and prices of
bismuth. Some of the letters contain marginal notations by Edison.
1910. Battery - Storage - Promotional (D-10-11)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the promotion of Edison
storage batteries. Included are "talking points" and other promotional descriptions, many in Edison's
hand; advertisements printed for the Edison Storage Battery Co.; and material regarding an “ideal
tour" up Mount Washington in New Hampshire made by two automobiles equipped with Edison
storage batteries. Also included are items concerning the plans of advertising executive, Converse
D. Marsh, to promote the use of Edison batteries in cooperation with electrical manufacturers and
central stations. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president and general counsel
of the Edison Storage Battery Co.; Leonard C. McChesney, head of the Advertising Department; and
William G. Bee, sales manager.
1910. Battery - Storage - Tests (D-10-12) [not selected]
This folder contains reports and memoranda concerning tests made on Edison storage
batteries. Included are requests for chemical analyses of solutions along with reports of road tests
performed with electric vehicles. Most of the laboratory memoranda are addressed to Ignacy
Goldstein, laboratory employee and chemist, and concern the composition and specific gravity of
electrolyte solutions. The road test reports contain information on equipment, routes, and the
performance of cells.
1910. Cement (D-10-13)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the
Edison Portland Cement Co. and to the manufacture and sale of cement. Included are letters
concerning competitive bids, litigation, and efforts to cooperate with other cement manufacturers in
controlling prices and supply. There are also items regarding negotiations with John W. Moyes to
manufacture cement in Canada and a letter announcing the death of the company's president,
Robert H. Thompson. Among the correspondents are Walter S. Mallory, vice president (later
president) of the Edison Portland Cement Co.; Frank L. Dyer, general counsel; and E. Meyer,
manager of sales. Related material can be found in D-10-09 (Battery, Storage - Foreign - Moyes,
John W.).
1910. Cement House (D-10-14)
This folder contains correspondence relating to the widely publicized development of Edison's
poured concrete house. Much of the material consists of unsolicited inquiries regarding the unique
nature, quick construction, and low cost of the projected house. Also included are requests to view
or display Edison's one-quarter scale model as well as correspondence concerning concrete
construction generally. Many of the unsolicited letters contain Edison marginalia, usually indicating
that a prepared circular be sent in response. Related material can be found in D-10-32 (Edison, T.A.
- Unsolicited Correspondence - Business - Cement House).
1910. Copyright (D-10-15)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to copyright matters
involving Edison and his companies. Included are items pertaining to copyright legislation, film
scenarios, and recordings. There are also letters concerning a copyright dispute involving the title
of the film /n the Nick of Time produced by the Edison Manufacturing Co.
1910. Edison, T.A. - General (D-10-16)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to a variety of subjects.
Included are documents that deal with more than one subject or that do not fall under the main
subject categories in the Document File. Among the items for 1910 are general expense reports for
the Edison companies; minutes of the companies’ centralized Manufacturing Committee; and a five-
page report sent to Edison while he was vacationing in Fort Myers, Florida. One letter acknowledges
Edison's donation toward the erection of a statue honoring the French author, the Comte de Villiers
de I'lsle-Adam. Another suggests a meeting between Edison and Wilbur Wright. There is also a letter
from Edison's sister-in-law, Alice Stilwell Holzer, announcing the death of her husband, William
Holzer. In addition, there are items pertaining to Edison's interest in a hearing aid called the
“acousticon" and documents relating to his attendance at the convention of the Association of Edison
Illuminating Companies. Among the correspondents are Booker T. Washington, Hudson Maxim, and
Charles M. Schwab. There are also letters from longtime Edison associates, including Herman E.
Dick, William K. L. Dickson, William J. Hammer, Edward H. Johnson, Thomas C. Martin, James
Ricalton, and Charles P. Steinmetz. Related material can be found in D-10-13 (Cement).
1910. Edison, T.A. - Articles (D-10-17)
This folder contains correspondence requesting Edison to write articles, correspondence
relating to books and articles about Edison and his inventions, and letters from journalists seeking
to interview Edison or soliciting his statements for publication. Among the items for 1910 are
numerous letters pertaining to the two-volume biography, Edison: His Life and Inventions, by Frank
L. Dyer and Thomas C. Martin. Also included are letters regarding a proposed biography of Edison
for young readers, items concerning the sale of a notebook of escapement drawings executed by
Edison in 1872, correspondence from Hudson Maxim and Samuel tnsull, and a draft by Edison of
an article on "the flexible wealth of the United States."
1910. Edison, T.A. - Book and Journal Orders
(D-10-18)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the ordering of books
and journals. Included are renewals for Edison's journal subscriptions, as well as book and magazine
orders for members of the Edison family. Among the documents for 1910 are items concerning
works on religion and spiritualism and on electric railways.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Clubs and Societies (D-10-19)
This folder contains correspondence relating to Edison's membership and activities in social
clubs and professional societies. Among the documents for 1910 are several letters from the
American Institute of Electrical Engineers, to which Edison donated a diary by Samuel F. B. Morse.
There are also several invitations to the annual banquet of the Ohio Society of New York, which
Edison declined on account of his deafness. In addition, there are letters from the National Electric
Light Association, the Committee of One Hundred of the American Association for the Advancement
of Science, and other professional societies; automobile and booster clubs; and religious, civic, and
philanthropic organizations. Some of the items contain marginal notes by Edison.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Employment (D-10-20)
This folder contains correspondence from or about employees and prospective employees.
There are also letters soliciting Edison's opinion regarding former employees seeking employment
elsewhere. Most of the correspondence consists of requests for employment at the West Orange
laboratory, some in answer to newspaper advertisements. Among the items for 1910 are documents
pertaining to the employment of Sydney W. Ashe, Donald M. Bliss, Newman H. Holland, and violinist
Arturo Nutini. There are also letters concerning the estates of Charles Batchelor and John Kruesi.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Family (D-10-21)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the health, finances,
and activities of Mina Miller Edison and other family members. Among the items for 1910 are letters
pertaining to the financial difficulties of William Leslie Edison, the legal problems of his Edison Auto
Accessories Co., the finances of Thomas A. Edison, Jr., the many charitable and household
activities of Mina Miller Edison, and the redemption of her bonds in the Edison Electric Illuminating
Co. and Edison Phonograph Works. There is also material concerning an automobile accident
involving Charles Edison and the expenses for a summer camp attended by Theodore Edison.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Financial (D-10-22) [not selected]
This folder contains routine correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's
personal investments and other financial interests. Included are letters pertaining to bond
transactions; the dissolution of the Ott Manufacturing Co.; and Edison's holdings in the Edison
Portland Cement Co. and its subsidiary, the Pohatcong Railroad Co. There are also items concerning
the Burroughs Adding Machine Co. and the Edison Chemical Works.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Insurance (D-10-23) [not selected]
This folder contains routine correspondence relating to insurance policies held by Edison and
his companies. Included are requests to inspect buildings, inquiries concerning Edison's life
insurance policy, and notice of a $10,000 settlement paid for fire loss at Edison's plant at Silver Lake,
New Jersey.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Name Use (D-10-24)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the use of Edison's
name, whether authorized or unauthorized, for advertising, trademark, or other purposes, Among
the items for 1910 are several letters from detective Joseph F. McCoy regarding plans to establish
a company to manufacture Edison's Polyform. Also included are letters pertaining to storage battery
trademarks and to a hearing aid called the Edison Electric Ear. Related documents can be found in
the Legal Department Records. Items concerning the use of the name "Thomas A. Edison, Jr." can
be found in D-10-21 (Edison, T.A. - Family).
1910. Edison, T.A. - Real Estate - General (D-10-25)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the purchase, rental,
and sale of land and buildings. Among the items for 1910 are letters by Frank L. Dyer, general
counsel of the Legal Department, pertaining to the land on which the Bronx studio was built and to
the phonograph plant at Glen Ridge, New Jersey.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Real Estate - Factory Location
(D-10-26) [not selected]
This folder contains correspondence that Edison received in response to newspaper reports
that he was seeking a new location for the manufacture of his storage batteries, electric vehicles,
or electric streetcars. A few items contain perfunctory notations by Edison indicating that those
reports were incorrect.
1910. Edison, T. A. - Religion and Spiritualism (D-10-27)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to Edison's interest in
religion and spiritualism. Included are letters from and pertaining to the spiritualist, Bert Reese, as
well as unsolicited responses to published statements made by Edison denying the immortality of
the soul and expressing other religious opinions.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence -
Advice - General (D-10-28)
This folder contains routine correspondence suggesting improvements in Edison's inventions,
asking him for advice on technical matters, or requesting his assistance in improving or promoting
inventions. Also included are unsolicited letters from inventors about their work.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence -
Advice - Aviation (D-10-29) [not selected]
This folder contains unsolicited correspondence relating to technological developments in
aviation and aerial navigation. Many of the letters were inspired by newspaper reports that Edison
was interested in those fields. Some of the items contain Edison marginalia refuting the newspaper
accounts.
1910. Unsolicited Correspondence - Autograph and
Photograph Requests (D-10-30) [not selected]
This folder contains routine correspondence requesting Edison's autograph or asking for his
photograph. Some of the items contain perfunctory Edison marginalia granting or refusing those
requests.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence -
Business - General (D-10-31)
This folder contains routine correspondence from individuals or companies requesting
agencies for Edison's inventions or seeking to do business with Edison. Related material can be
found in D-10-07 (Battery - Storage - Foreign - General).
1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence -
Business - Cement House (D-10-32) [not selected]
This folder contains routine correspondence from individuals requesting agencies for the
construction and sale of Edison's concrete house. Some of the items contain perfunctory Edison
marginalia.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence -
Deafness (D-10-33)
This folder contains correspondence relating to Edison's deafness and to devices for the
hearing impaired. Included are requests for Edison's opinion of existing hearing aids as well as
inquiries concerning his plans to invent such a device.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence - Foreign Language (D-10-34)
[not selected]
This folder contains untranslated letters to Edison. Foreign-language documents
accompanied by translations or English-language summaries can be found in other "Edison, T.A. -
Unsolicited Correspondence" folders and in the appropriate subject folders.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence -
Holiday Greetings (D-10-35) [not selected]
This folder contains holiday greetings received by Edison from friends, family, acquaintances,
associates, and others.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Unsolicited Correspondence -
Personal (D-10-36)
This folder contains routine personal requests and fan mail. Included are letters asking
Edison for educational advice, personal information, information on lightning rods and x-rays,
charitable contributions, loans, and other favors.
1910. Edison, T.A. - Visitors (D-10-37) [not selected]
This folder contains routine letters of introduction and routine requests to visit Edison or tour
his West Orange laboratory. Substantive letters from individuals who visited the laboratory or
company shops on business can be found in the appropriate subject folders. Some of the items
contain perfunctory marginalia by Edison, granting or refusing requests. Among the documents for
1910 is a formal letter of appreciation from the Honorary Commercial Commissioners of Japan, who
visited the United States in 1909.
1910. Edison Crushing Roll Company (D-10-38)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the
Edison Crushing Roll Co., which licensed and installed Edison's crushing rolls and collected royalties
for their use. Included are statements of expenses incurred and royalties due, as well as
correspondence regarding blueprints, patterns, licenses, and inspections.
1910. Edison Manufacturing Company (D-10-39)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the
Edison Manufacturing Co. Among the documents for 1910 are items pertaining to corporate taxes,
advertising, material for primary batteries, and a contract with Nelson Goodyear. Also included are
comparative statements of general expenses for 1909 and 1910.
1910. Exhibitions (D-10-40)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents concerning electrical and
industrial exhibitions. Among the documents for 1910 are items pertaining to the Ohio Valley
Exhibition and the Boston Mechanics Exposition, as well as the Panama-Pacific International
Exposition planned for San Francisco in 1915. There are also items regarding the Japan British
Exhibition in London and the Travel Exhibition in Glasgow.
1910. Fort Myers (D-10-41)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the maintenance of
Edison's home and property at Fort Myers, Florida. Among the items for 1910 are letters regarding
remodeling of the house, storm damage, plantings, and materials ordered. There are also letters
concerning travel plans and electrical supplies ordered from the West Orange laboratory by Frederick
P. Ott in Florida.
1910. Glenmont (D-10-42) [not selected]
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the furnishing and
maintenance of Glenmont, Edison's home in Llewellyn Park. The items for 1910 consist primarily of
bills, statements, receipts, and account sheets itemizing household expenditures in the name of Mina
Miller Edison or her husband. Included are statements of account detailing automobile parts and
repairs; cost estimates on remodeling work proposed for the house; and numerous bills for coal.
1910. Legal Department (D-10-43)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the activities of the
Legal Department, a centralized office for the consideration of legal matters involving the Edison
companies. Included are items that pertain to litigation or to the organization of companies, as well
as items that address general concerns of corporate structure and financial and legal responsibility.
Most of the documents for 1910 consist of letters and memoranda to or from Frank L. Dyer, general
counsel of the Legal Department, concerning settlements with injured employees, the proposed
annexation of the Silver Lake section of Belleville to Newark, the organization of an engineering
department at the West Orange laboratory, and Dyer's personal investment in the Condensite Co.
of America,
1910. Mining (D-10-44)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to mining and ore milling.
Included are items pertaining to mining property in Canada and mining equipment in Australia, as
well as correspondence enclosing ore samples or inquiring about Edison's interest in ore milling,
mines, and ores. Other documents deal with prospecting work paid for by Edison and the progress
of litigation against the Allis-Chalmers Co., which Edison was suing for infringement of his crushing
roll patent. One letter concerns the plant at Dunderland, Norway, constructed by the Edison Ore
Milling Syndicate, Ltd.
1910. Motion Pictures - General (D-10-45)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the production and
commercial development of motion picture films and the manufacture of projectors. Included are
items concerning photographic and production quality, advertising, sales, film distribution, and the
activities of exhibitors. Among the documents for 1910 are letters pertaining to the employment of
actress Pilar Morin and others at the Edison studio in the Bronx, the facilities of the studio, and
foreign markets for films. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison
Manufacturing Co.; George F. Scull, assistant to the vice president; and Horace G. Plimpton,
manager of negative production.
1910. Motion Pictures - Censorship (D-10-46)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the activities of the
National Board of Censorship of Motion Pictures. Included are letters between Charles Sprague
Smith, executive chairman of the National Board, and Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison
Manufacturing Co., concerning censorship activities, the exhibition of films on Sundays, and the use
of motion pictures for educational purposes. There are also numerous reports that “pass,”
"condemn," or require modifications in individual films, along with a statement of receipts and
disbursements for the period June 1909-May 1910.
1910. Motion Pictures - Experimental (D-10-47)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical
development of films, cameras, and projectors. Included are items pertaining to the experimental
work on color photography contracted to Charles L. Brasseur; other experimental work conducted
at the West Orange laboratory by Willard C. Greene; and the development of the "Household
Projecting Kinetoscope," a small projector for home use. There are also assessments of
improvements submitted to the Edison Manufacturing Co. by outsiders, including evaluations of the
color photographic process developed by Florence Warner and John H. Powrie. Among the
correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Manufacturing Co.; George F. Scull,
assistant to the vice president; and Horace G. Plimpton, manager of negative production in the
Kinetograph Department.
1910. New Jersey Patent Company (D-10-48) [not selected]
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the New Jersey Patent
Co., a patent holding company for the National Phonograph Co. and other Edison concerns. The
items for 1910 consist primarily of routine statements, receipts, and letters of transmittal and
acknowledgment.
1910. Patents (D-10-49)
This folder contairis correspondence and other documents relating to foreign and domestic
patent applications, patent litigation, and other patent matters. Among the items for 1910 are letters
concerning federal patent legislation; Edison's involvement in the patent activities of his Legal
Department; and various storage battery, cement, and phonograph patents. Many of the letters are
to or from Frank L. Dyer, president and general counsel of the National Phonograph Co. Also
included is a 21-page report containing abstracts of patent applications abandoned by Edison during
the period 1876-1885. A draft of this report, in the hand of William H. Meadowcroft, appears in
Thomas A. Edison Papers: A Selective Microfilm Edition, Part |, 8: 526-547.
1910. Phonograph - General (D-10-50)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical and
commercial development of phonographs. Among the documents for 1910 are items pertaining to
the development of diamond reproducing points, inexpensive phonographs for foreign markets, and
disc phonographs. Also included are a general report on the American phonograph market; a
comparative report of general expenses for the National Phonograph Co. for the period June 1909-
June 1910; and letters to Edison about the phonograph, to which he responded with marginal
comments. Some of the letters are by Frank L. Dyer, president of the National Phonograph Co.
1910. Phonograph - Edison Business Phonograph
Company (D-10-51)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the Edison Business
Phonograph Co. Included are items pertaining to general expenses, sales, company directors,
advertising, and other promotional concerns.
1910. Phonograph - Edison Phonograph Works
(D-10-52)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the business of the
Edison Phonograph Works. Among the items for 1910 are letters to and from Frank L. Dyer, general
manager of the Edison Phonograph Works, regarding complaints against purchasing agent H. T.
Leeming. Also included are shop orders and comparative reports of earnings and expenses for 1909
and 1910.
1910. Radio (D-10-53)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the technical and
commercial development of wireless telegraphy or radio. The items for 1910 consist primarily of
correspondence with the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Co. of America regarding the renewal of notes
held by Edison. Also included are letters of inquiry and items pertaining to Patrick Delany and his
"telepost" system.
1910. Reiff, Josiah C. (D-10-54) [not selected]
This folder contains correspondence by Josiah C. Reiff, a longtime associate of Edison who
was involved in protracted litigation (George Harrington, Josiah C. Reiff. and Thomas A. Edison v.
Atlantic and Pacific Telegraph Co. et al.) arising from Edison's telegraph work during the 1870s.
Among the items for 1910 are requests for loans and other favors from Edison, as well as updates
on the progress of litigation. Some of the letters contain perfunctory Edison marginalia.
1910. West Orange Laboratory (D-10-55)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the operation of the
West Orange laboratory. Included are items regarding the formation of an engineering and
experimental department at the laboratory and the invention of a drying apparatus for photographic
plates by Alexander N. Pierman. There are also letters concerning the forfeiture of the charter of the
Ott Manufacturing Co., as well as memoranda and other items pertaining to equipment, scrap metal,
chemicals, and supplies.
1910. Automobile - General (D-10-01)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
design and operation of automobiles and the use of storage batteries in electric
vehicles. Among the items for 1910 are documents pertaining to Edison's
research into the number of electric vehicles on the road and the experience
of their owners with lead storage batteries. Other letters deal with Edison's
promotion of trucks using his storage battery. At the end of the folder is an
undated draft in Edison's hand of a circular for an "Electric Automobile with the
New Edison Battery." Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer, vice
president and general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co., and William
G. Bee, sales manager. There are also numerous letters by automobile
manufacturers such as Babcock Electric Carriage Co., Electric Vehicle Co.,
Studebaker Automobile Co., and Waverly Co.; and by individual owners of
electric vehicles.
Approximately 60 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include correspondence with Cryder & Co. and others
regarding orders, bills, and automobile parts; letters of transmittal; unsolicited
inquiries; and documents that duplicate information in selected material.
Invoices and account sheets that pertain to the upkeep of Edison's
automobiles can be found in D-10-42 (Glenmont).
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THE Paciric TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH COMPANY
HENRY T. SCOTT, PRESIDENT. 506 Shreve Building. lustre)
LOUIS GLASS, 10
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THOMAD &. SHERWIN, auoTTOR. SAN FRANCISCO April 12, 1910. jax
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Dear Mr. Edison:- Co Yo a omatt So mer
Mr. Anderson, of the Anderson Carriage Company, Detroit, is in
Que etwvfrk, - Hig {3 Sine La ww ee oe
San Francisco and represents to me that fie is manufacturing drays and
tie etn. a ¢- PO Spretary a Ce
express wagons which are equipped with 2 fea baat ae e offers to ar-
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range with me for investment of $20,000 vin his be gee for a five Year
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agency at about the following rates for chased with motor, without bate
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1200 lbs to 1500 lbs.......... 1600 oe
2000 ibs to 2500 ibs.......... 1800
2500 Ibs to 3000 lbs.......... 2000
Mr. Anderson states that he will be able to deliver these machines
equipped with your battery as fast as they may be ordered.
I notice in the pamphlet of the Edison Storage Battery Company
of Orange, New Jersey, that the Eastern parties are using a Lansden wagon
and it occurs to me that perhaps the Lansden people have your preference
in the matter of handling your battery for this purpose. I simply
write this letter, asking confidentially that you put me right in the
matter. Mr. Anderson claims to have visited you at the Laboratory at
Orange, to have talked over his business affairs with you, and to have
a satisfactory arrangement for the supply of the Idison Storage Battery.
If you feel at liberty to do this for an oldtime employee, I
shall very much appreciate the favor.
Very truly yours,
GE Veti¢e
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Organized “ for the soctal, moral and commercial betterment of its members”
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THOS. H. BREWER, Third Vico President
F, P, GREENE, Fourth Vico President
W. R. COOLEY, Treasurer
G. B. DRESHER, Secretary
Telephono Riverside 112
The Pennsylvania Society
HEADQUARTERS
ASSEMBLY ROOM, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
HUTTON BUILDING
Mey IOth, 1920,
Spokane, Casbington, tt 190.
Mr, Thomes A. Edison,
Orange, New Jersey. wat 16k MY
My Dear Sir; --
I have read with much interest, the article of Henry . Jevons,in
May Teehnivel World, in relation to your wonderful success in the Storage
Eattery StreetCar. Your trials of the Greyhound, the low cost of mainte-
nence you have secured, ufter the many yeurs of work, the results ere very
remerkable, By the low cost of overetion, your cers ere well edepted for
the short lines desired to reach the Irrigetion districts cdjacent to our
larger cities and towns, If you remember the writer for I7 years wes con-
nected with the old Locul Telegraph Compeny, or Henry Bentleys compeny,
and it was my pleasure to meet you and your interesting fumily, when you
mude your visit to this city lust year, I being one of the Publicity Sec-
reteries of our lively Chamber of Commerce, and of which you expressed many
good things. I have always remembered with plezsure your visit to this vert
of the Northwest, as it showed you the wonderful opportunities existing
for capital, brains and ective men, I em now ina position to commend any
amount of Capitel to organize 2 Compsny for any good enterprise, und the
money is right here, do not have togo Bast for it, and I am writing you, to
inquire if I can seoure the Pacific Northwest States, under en exclusive
working contrect for the sale or lecse, as you may detefmine, of your cars?
The opportunities of this wonderful country are limitless, «nd Millions
Of dollars
of Eastern and Middle ¥est men, are coming here for investment, in orchards,
Executive Comnuttter
WILLIAM H. ACUFF, President
A.M. LUPFER, First Vico President
J. GRIER LONG, Second Vice President
THOS, H. BREWER, Third Vice President
F. P. GREENE, Fourth Vico President
W. R. COOLEY, Treasurer
G. B. DRESHER, Secretary
Telephone Riverside 112
HUMBER TiO,
Organized “ for the social, moral and commercial betterment of Its mombers"
The Pennsylvania Society
HEADQUARTERS
ASSEMBLY ROOM, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE,
HUTTON BUILDING
Spokane, asbington, = t90_
Irrigation vlants, Colonization, lurge wheut f.rms, mines end other im-
provements, The opening of the Reservations lest year brought « lurge
number of people here,who h&ve gone back home and spread the word, and now
we ure welcoming » large classof the better educuted men, with money,
You hhve solved a greet problem for the short hauls, The cost of con-
struction of overhee# transmission systems, Power Stetions, end equipment,
is so hecvy, it nesrly prohibits the extensions to the smaller growing dis-
tricts, which even now ere trebling their populution within five or ten
years, Within the
City limits, one gusoline cur, connects the end of an
electric line with u large sub-division, at « very low cost ner mile por
pussenger, My long and intimete acquéintance with the leuding finencial
and commercial men of this City und vicinity, pluces me in « position to
be eble to curry out your proposition, if 1 shall huve the honour to rep-
resent your interests in the Northvest country, which we heve ulvays known
es Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana, The Railroad Commissioners have
told our Chamber, thet the high cost of equipment, etce,., brought from the
Eastern factories and foudries, has grectlt hendicapped the railroad de-
velopment of these States. Your proposition will not require & great num-
be: of interests to purchase from,
I trust that I shall have the pleasure to hear from you, and learn if I
cen be of service to you as well es myself, Awaiting you consideration, I
em,
Very truly yours,
. 73 .
Spokane, “ashinston,
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Mr. H. F. Miller, Secretary,
Labratory of Thos. A. Edison,
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My dear Sir: wth 6 fin fo”
Lega see
I received your favor of april Sth, and am obliged 7c Cie,
pore e. wer, 23
for the information contained. I have fae ed stent a Detroit
Electric the price for which is $600 more Rem ig PY ak ac is used
Eee oe
I do not know whether that means an A4 or Brent ue ry ¢
thi
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the Detroit Electric I was getting the best equipment in th yofa e
Lo Lk. or boner em
battery that I could have. am per rip re satiafied “that Mr. ard 8° 7
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battery is all right as to e to au o— to be sur
that in getting the Detroit Lec tri} ae em eottin t y best electric \
vehicle that I can purchase a Lye ww fe Ce Cheaper nas fe —
A co hte Dead Ber 4 T,
I would be greatly obliged mers Mr. Edison or-to you for—any _
peta 5g
advice that you may be willing to give baa this score, which, of
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to yourself, I am ae Te lee, f
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TRIFSTATE "PHONE 2414 N
THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE (0.
FACTORY REPRESENTATIVES
TEMPORARY HEADQUARTERS
MAXWELL SALES ROOM
HENNEPIN AVE, AND 87H ST.
— NOW BUILDING —
SHOW ROOM AND ELECTRIC GARAGE
HENNEPIN AND 15TH ST,
MINNEAPOLIS, MINN.. May 17, 1910.
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Mr. Thomus A. Edison, yt 20 ace
c/o Edison Storage Battery Co., Si
Orange, N. J.
Dear sir:
We are trying very hard to convince the vinneapolis
Public that the Edison Battery is absolutely right and ha t :
you huve solved the storage battery problem to your own Ot knoe
to the satisfaction of those who know storage batteries best.
Our competitors in the electric vehicle business here
are,as you know, not prepared to equip their cars with Edison
Batteries, and are doing everything in their power to discredit
the same. Among other things, they are very industriously
circulating the report that you have not finished with the
storage battery problem and that the statements ana claims for
the Iidison Battery made by the Edison Storage Battery Co. in
their literature and letters, do not bear the stamp of your
authority. To be more specific, Prospective purchasers assail
us with the proposition that we have nothing authoritative
from you on the subject. Under the circumstances, will you
not write us a letter over your own signature stating that the
Claine made for the battery in the literature of the Kdison
Battery Cc. are the claims which you, personally, make for it
and that you have perfected the battery to your own satisfaction
Trusting that you will grant us this favor, we beg
to remain,
Yours very truly,
The WLECTRIG VEHIOLE co.
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hes submitted e design of a demounteble rim applicable to
wheels for both pneumatic and solid tires}. . The scheme seems
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but I would deeply appreciate receiving y: opinion on the
subject before presenting the matter Company. «Mr.
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In Reply Refer to Alex. Churchward,
"PRINCIPAL OFFICE
SCHENECTADY, N. Y¥.
West Lynn, Mass.
June 7, 1910.
Mr. Thomes A. Edison,
ORANGE, N. J. Ai. S_-
My dear Mr. Edison: - Qo
I am enclosing a list of standard automobile
motors which we are designing to be used in conjunction with
your battery. They are the same kilowatt capacity as the 85
volt motor but have been laid out for 60 volts so that they
can be used in conjunction with 58 to 64 cell battery.
You will also notice that we have two special
motors for use in conjunction with your storage battery car.
We will send you speed, torque, efficiency ourves
of these motors very shortly. | .
Yours very truly,
tile: Yorpehevetd
A. Churchward-P,
The Writer was obliged to
leave before signing the abov~
letter dictated by him.
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85 Volt Stendard Motors.
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in case 100 cells of Edison Battery are used in the car.
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June 10, 1910.
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Llewellyn Park, Hew Jersey.
Dear Sir: .
Generel Healey directs ws to hand you
the enclosed as he thinks it will be of interest.
Very truly,
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JUN BAL 191
PUBLIC LEDGER—-PHILADELPHIA
SUNDAY MORNING. APRIL 17, 1910,
ELECTRIC AUTO'S FINE RUN
Travels From New York to This City
in Quick Time.
1 An unusual feat of endurance was re-
;corded yesterday when an _ electric
| broughain, welghing 3846 pounds, with
passengers, manufacturer by Healey &
Co., of New York city, covered the dis-
tance of 1041; miles from that: city to
the Philadelphia City Halt in 7 hours
ind 15 minutes, with a single Dattery
charge. .°
The auto, which is of the ordinary
stock type erected hy-the concern, was
driven by Charles R. Phillips, who was
accompanied on the trip by Wiliam
padul and W. H. Douglass,. of New
York. e . .
‘I'he route covered led througir Staten
Island, New Brunswick and Camden,
was made at Hightstown for dinner.
arriving in this city at 6:30 o’clock,
! ‘The run, which was made merely for},
“test and exhibition purposes, was ac-
jcomplished with an original charge of |i
+88 volts In the new type Edison storage [°
‘battery, with which. the Healey ma-
ichines: are equipped. At the end of the
‘trip i€ waa found ‘that the battery till
{yetained 71 volts, which would have
enabled It to have gone 15 -miles fur;
ther.
According to automobile men, the or-
dinary storage battery fs calculated to
ycarry a machine 45 miles without re-
jcharging.. - e pay
and a stop-off of en, hour and. a halt]
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CARL W.S. ROTHFUSS
AUTOMOBILES
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245-2641 Ww. THIRD StecKT es
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Wittiameport, Pa. , June 13, 1910. |
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I am comtemplating buyin ae Klectric Car,
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and every dealer haa given, the fjg0n Battery. ld shoulder
and have tried to Alagoursge mo in getting a car ery” this /
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
I have been yunning a Pope Waverly Electric for ee
che rf taka Nace a co ey e0r.
six yoars with good results wi ide Battery, but it/is u.
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about time to get a nee car. in lookins up the price, I fina
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quarantea do you givo? Ecetuwm— © aOR. 7 me
There is no Edison Bdttery in this town and I would
like to ride in a car ana think of my Fis are Rriend the
Battery Man. \7hiate wv ae oe unm Baul”
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FRICTIONLESS ROCKER JOINT CHAINS,
HIGH SPEED SILENT RUNNING FLEXIBLE GEARING
fy FOR POWER TRANSMISSION.
WORKS
ITHACA,NY. JN 18 ela 6/15/10
My. Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, H.d.,
Dear Sir :-
We have your favor of the 14th inst, and as we read your .
, the
axle at 350 R.P.M., and that there will be four 150 HP motors
a
letter understand that the motor is expected to run at 1050
employed. We regret that we cannot give you a satisfactory trans-
mission with a motor ranning at this speed, but could give you one
provided the shafts are maintained in substentieal parallelism with
the motor running at 750 R.P.M. or thereabouts. Kindly advise if d/
motor of this speed is feasible in connection with your work.
4s to durability, for your information would sey that we
have sold upwards of 100 drives to the MoKeen Motor Car Co. who use a
200 HP gasoline engine running from 350 to 650 R.P.M., and driving direot
from the crank shaft of a sixecylinder engine to the driving wheels of
their motor cer. These cars are used quite extensively in the West on
short branch lines, and some of them are now being sent into the East
for the same purpose, we believe one being run on a branch of the Brie
Railroad between the main line and Chautauqua Lake. This service woe
think would be much more severe than the motor drive which you mention,
provided the shafts are held in parallelism as stated above.
We are pessing your inquiry to our New York office, 50 Church
8t-, and trust you will be able to substitute motor of the slower speed
B CHAU Cor,
UFACTURERS OF
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FRICTIONLESS ROCKER JOINT CHAINS,
HIGH SPEED SILENT RUNNING FLEXIBLE GEARING
BY FOR POWER TRANSMISSION.
WORKS
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Thos.A-Edison-2
s0 we will be able to quote on a drive that we feel will be most
efficient and entirely satisfactory.
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THOS.W, HARVEY, M. bd.
463 MAIN STREET, yw
ORANGE,N.J.
dune 15, 1910.
My dear Mr.Hopkins,
In accordance with your request I send you a short account of
my experience with the old Ratton Electric Car that I have used since .1905, just
five years to this date. The car had been used about one year but had new batteries
put in just before I bought it. It was good for about forty miles a charge. I put
in new batteries about every 2500 miles. ‘a ran one car about 2000 miles a year,it
cost me about $500 a year, but t iad the Satinfaotion of knowing that only the
wealthy oan really enjoy life,and I took great comfort from the fact that even
if a five thousand dollar limousine did ‘whisk past me ata forty mile gait, ea
when I was laboriously doing four miles an hour,still my ride was costing me so
much more thaa the other fsllow’s that I could look down with disd/ain upon hin.
For all that,slow as it is,expensive as it is, whenever I get up in a Winter
night to make a professional call I turn to ths old money~burning snail of an.
electric, and am at my patients sides before I could have gat my gasoline car in
Shape to run; and then when I come out there is a cold engiae to orank back
to life. i ahr AS nbs ort { % charge Mrw-
Yours respectfully,
Mr.C.Hopkins,
171 Valley Road,
West Orange. ~
NORTH ORANGE BAPTIST CHURCH
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ORANGE, NEW JERSEY
WILLIAM M. LAWRENCE, PASTOR
“The Alvord," East Orange, N, J.
PASTOR'S STUDY... June... LBth.»... LQL0 «
My dear Mr. Edison:-
A few days ago, one of your representatdveioaldea on me,
desiring to know what ginertenos I had had with my Studabacker
Eleotric. As I know nothing about electricity, I cannot make my
answer in any scientific form. I do not mean that I have not
tried to learn, but I fear I am incapable of understanding many
points, so that certainly I neve had to depend for all information
and suggestion upon Mr. Hilsinger, of the North Jersey Mortor Car
Company, at whose garage Mr. Colgate stores my car.
As you know, my car was a present from Mr. Sidney Colgate,
and he is kind enough to bear all the expenses pertaining to it.
Once during my summer vacation, the oar is taken down to the
factory and the batteries receive attention. dust what that at-
tention may be, I cannot say. I think I am using new patteries at
present.
I have had the car five years. It was guaranteed to go
forty miles on one charge. The greatest run I have ever made with
it on one charge was thirty-five miles. This year, the greatest
run I have made was eighteen miles, but that is altogether exception—
al and special care was exeroised in making the run, the controller
being in the third notch and the current. turned off whenever the :
grade was down. This run was made last week to Upper Montolair. I
was misdireoted and found myself on Upper Mountain Avenue, which
ig
was a@ pretty good pull on the car.
If I were asked in a word what is the main difficulty, I
would say the uncertainty regarding the length of time the car will
go on one charge. Sometimes this year I have not gotten more than
eleven miles. That is the main difficulty,— its uncertainty, so
that the batteries are sometimes charged more frequently than they
should bee I do not speak of this uncertainty in the light of a
complaint, for the car has served me very well, because I have not
attempted long distances.
Another thing that has been disagreeable, and of course
necessarily so, has been the effect of the acid upon the mechanism
of the car itself. Another thing which I have noticed has been the
variability of the strength of the car. Under equal conditions, I
have been able to do some days what I could not do other days. I
mean by that, that the var would go faster. Upon my notification
to Mr. Hilsinger, no adequate cause could be found, but it certainly
was true that the current was stronger at one time than at other
times.
I am afraid I have not done very much to answer the
questions of the young man. I was very much pleased with him and
would be glad to give any further information possible.
Yours very sincerely,
ET ee tien cermenemns ce ais
THOMAS A. EDISON FRANK L. DYER E. G, DODGE H. F, MILLER
President Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Seeretary-Treasurer
y Epison Storace Battery: Co.
Telephone, 998 Orange ORANGE, NEW JERSEY June 20/10
Mr. Frank L. Dyer:
Enclosed please find a list ef
@lectric autemebile manufacturers, with the name
ef the sales manager or seme ether of their
principal efficers:
ANDERSON CARRIAGE CO. This concern you are familiar
with. :
BABCOCK ELEC.CARRIAGE CO. The attitude of these people
teward the Edisen battery has been very unfavor-
able, although recently they stated that they
heped the Edisen battery weuld preve 0.K. Their
main objection has been that the battery occupies
too much space and is of course not designed for
the Edison battery. They bought 60 A-4 cells and
Claim to have tested them out, but that they were
not satisfactory owing to the voltage falling off
at high speed. We have since loaned them 42 A~6
cells, but up to the present time have not made a
test. They told our Mr.Doty last week that Mr.
Babcock was going to put this battery in his own
testing car as soon as he could have it changed
over.
BAKER MOTOR VEHICLE CO. They have purchased 6 sets of
A-4 betteries, 48, 50 and 64 cells. We have a
letter from one of their customers in New Hamp~
Shire, who writes that his battery of 64 A-4 he
ig very much pleased with. Their New York re-
presentative is knocking the Edison battery every
opportunity he gets. In fact, the only agent the
writer knows anything about who is boosting the
battery, is their Boston agent. He told the
writer the last time I was in Boston that he was
very much pleased with the results obtained. We .
have never put any into their trukks. The Amer- ae
ican Express Company in New York, who own a Baker
truck, have written us this morning that they
would like to have us figure on putting a new
Edison battery in same. This shows that the Amer-
ican Express Company are dissatisfied with the
lead battery.
BROC CARRIAGE & WAGON CO. Have never purchased an
Edison battery. a
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S. R. BAILEY & CO. This concern you are familiar with .
CHAMPION WAGON CO. ‘They have never purchased an Edison
battery.
COLUMBUS BUGGY CO. They have purchased 1 A-4 battery
of 40 cells. Have never heard anything from
them in regard to it. They also tested out a
40 A-6 cell battery in a rig that was sent to .
Boston for the Boston Edison Co., who report that
the battery is 0.K., but that they have recently
had trouble with the vehicle. The Columbus Buggy
Company have recently gone into the gasoline cer
business and are not pushing the electric.
COMMERCIAL TRUCK CO.OF AMER. Have bought one Edison
battery which they sold to John Wanamaker for
one of their trucks, and have recently placed an
order for another.
COUPLE GEAR FREIGHT ¥HEET CO. Recently sent us an
order which is not yet shipped.
ELECTRIC OMNIBUS & TRUCK CO. Have not yet built any
rigs. Have two or three orders on our books for
batteries, and will be ready about the last of
the month.
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CO. The president of this concern
mumikiiedt sabes wickie we ware in the wast rex
muntix is president of the Electric Storage Bat-
tery Company of Philadelphia. They have recently
gone into a combination with the United States
Motor Co., which is the Maxwell-Briscoe com~
bination.
FRITCHLE AUTO & BATTERY CO. Have never purchased/
GENERAL VEHICLE CO. This concern you are familiar with.
' They have recently placed an order for two more ; !
batteries.
IDEAL ELECTRIC CO. The president of this company com~
mitted suicide while we were in the west recently.
Think they are pushed for money.
C. P. KIMBALL & CO. They have never purchased any bat-
teries of us, although Mr.Frayer reports that :
their attitude is a little more favorable. :
OHIO ELECTRIC CAR CO. Have purchased one battery. Re-~-
ceived a letter this morning from the purchaser
asking for instructions as to care of the battery.
I have been told that they have sold several rigs
for Edison batteries, but they have not placed
their orders.
5.
PITTSBURGH MOTOR VEHICLE CO. They have purchased two
batteries.
RAUCH & LANG CARRIAGE CO. Have purchased 40 A-4 cells.
uy The writer prove& to them that this battery was
too small. They then purchased 40 A-6 cells, and
I understand that this battery is in Detroit. They
returned the 40 A-4 cells and we shipped them
anothed 40 A=-6 battery. They really have two AW-6
batteries, 40 cells each.
STUDEBAKER AUTO CO. They have demonstrated 64 A-6 cells
in their truck in New Yor, Chicago and Boston. We
also shipped them 70 A-4 celas but have not heerd
report of test.
WAVERLEY CO. We loaned them a battery. Fizgst put in
48 A-4 cells. While I was at their factory we got
them to let us send them 6 cells more. Have not
heard result.
“WASHINGTON MOTOR VEHICLE CO. Bought 4 sets.
WOODS MOTOR VEHICLE Co. Bought one set 60 A-4. Have
not- heard result.
HEALEY & CO. O.K.e. They build a special brougham for
Edison batteries. They recently made a test
from New York. to Philadelphia on one charge, and
from Philadelphia to New York on one charge, 104
miles. They have sold several of these broughams
equipped with the Edison battery.
- Very truly yours,
Ki de
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Avderson verriage vo.,
Niopelle & vUley Sts.,
wa
Detroit, mich, W.C, Anderson, vsdt,
Geo, Mm, Bacon, Vesigner.
Babcock Wlectric Carriage
Co.
226 W, Utica St.,
Buffalo, WY.
B, G. Peck, Designer.
Baker Motor Vehicle Co., {
West 80th St., v
Cleveland, Ohio.
F.R. White, President,
Broc Carriage & Wagon Co.,
1665 Hest 40th St.,
4021 Payne Svenue,
Cleveland, Ohio,
S.R, Bailey & Co.,
Amesbury, Mass.
1 O.F, Fisher, Psdt,
S.R, Bailey, Psdt,
E.W.M, Bailey, Treas, & G.M,
Champion ‘agon Co,.,
Oswego, N.Y,
Columbus Buggy Co.,
Dublin Avenue, W,, i.
Columbus, Ohio, C,D.Firestone, Psdt.
Commercial Truck Co,
of America,
1222 Arcade Bldg.,
Philedelphia, Pa. E.R, Whitney, Ch. ing,
F,E, Whitney, Supt,
Couple-Gear Freight=Wheel Co.,
Grand Rapids, Mich. M,B. Church, Psdt,
J.W, Brown, Manager,
Electric Omibus & Truck Co,
135 Broedway,
N.Y. City,N.Y. C.J, Pielad, Psat,
Electric Vehicle Co,,
Park & Laurel Sts., H.W, Nuckols,
Hartford, Conn, Secy, & Receiver,
(Under control of U,S.Motor ‘Sfx Co. )
Fritchle Auto, & Battery Co.,
1449 Clarkson St.,
Denver, Col. Oliver P, Fritchle,
General Vehicle Co,., P.D.Wagoner, Psdt
Long Island tity, N.Y. @.w, Wesley, Supt,
Ba ban Sook, Fsdt, & GM,
O.B,Henflerson, Sales Negr,
E, Gruenfeldt, Designer.
pleasure
Pleasure
Pleasure
and vtomnel,
Pleasure
Pleasure,
Commercial,
Pleasure,
Commercial,
Commercial,
Commercial,
Pleasure
and Commel,
Pleasure,
Commercial,
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Ideal Electric Co., S.H. Peterson,
Chicago, Ills,
C.P, Kimball & Co.,
315 Michigan Ave., V
Chicago, Ills, Chas.F,Kimball, Psdt.
J.5, Gorham,
Lansden Company,
Newark, NJ, John Lansden,
F,A, Whitten,
Ohio Electric Car Co.,
Toledo, Ohio. H.P. Dodge, Gen. Mgr.
Pittsburg Motor Vehicle
Co,
5722 Ellsworth Ave.,
Pittsburg, Pa, Chas. A, Ward,
Rauch & Lang Carriage Co.,
2180 W. 25th St., Chas, Lang, Secy. & Treas,
Clevelend, Ohio, D.C. Cookingham, Supt.
J.H.Hertner, Designer.
Studebeker Auto. Co,, /
South Bend, Ind, Hayden Hames, G.Mer.
v H, Robinson,
The Waverly Co.,
139 South East St.,
Indianapolis, Ind. Herbert H, Rice, Vice-P,
W.C,. Johnson, Secy &
Asst, Mgr.
Washington Motor Vehicle
Co.,
213 "L" St., S.W.,
Washington, D.C. W.H,Conant,
Woods Motor Vehicle Co.,y
2515 Calumet Ave., JLouis i, Burr, Psdt.
Chicago, Ills. Fred. J, Newman, Designer
& Supt.
R, S. Fend.
Healey & Co,,
Broadway & 5ist St.,
New York City,N.Y. Gen.W.M,Healey.
Pleasure,
Pleasure,
Commercial,
Pleasure,
Comme rGial ,
Pleasure.
Pleasure
and Commel,
Pleasure
and Comnel,
Commercial,
Pleasure,
Pleasure,
THOMAS A, EDISON
President
TID gn eet a et ES it a a SS a aed a Fe cee ee
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Epison StTorAGE Battery Co.
Telephone, 908 Orange
ORANGE, NEW JERSEY June 20
1910
Mr. Frank L. Dyer:
of Jersey City have recently equipped one of their
Studebaker 5-ton trucks with 70 A-8 cells, and while
work, and wanted to lmow if we could fill promptly
Frederick Loeser @ Company of Brooklyn have had an
FRANK L, DYER E. G. DODGE H. F. MILLER
Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Secretary-Treasurer
Edison battery in one of their trucks since last September.
They recently gave us an order to replace six lead
batteries. This they did after a very severe test of
the Edison battery through all the winter months.
The truck equipped with the Edison battery was the only
One they could absolutely rely upon to make the trip to
New York and get back to their store without boosting.
Loeser trucks were made by the General Vehicle Co.
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Repiying to vour i roevaraiig lay dxperionee
with the use of an oliectric antomwonile, would say thas all
my trovble, when T had ona of those oars, was with she
batterigg, T am yabisfied that if these tronbiss conld
have heen elininated at the time, an electric gar vouhi bo
a greater pieasure to run than any gasoline car, owing to
the fact that thay vould always be available when wanted,
less attention required and woudd run nore gL.oOothlLy anc
nolse Lossly. T am now the omer of two gasoiina carg,
but Wouid much prefer a reliahle Oleatric, but this can only
be when the batteriag ara such that they wilh stand un ami
serye the purpose for which they are intenlad, which vas not
the case at the tine I owned wy electric.
I trust that you may gone day mect this roquireamwent and
then T shall be glial to again consider the purchase of an
electric car, as may wife could run my slectric car and find
considerable onjoyment with it, which she could not do with
a gasoline car.
Very truly yours, :
feed
Those A. Edison Esq.,
Orange,
New Jersey.
Dear sir:-
In reply to your inquiry through your representative
Mr. Hopkins as to my electric run-about would say it is very
satisfactory except its limited distance capacity with one charge
of electricity. It has an acid battery and will run on our
ordinary roads about sixteen miles. I Pind it particularly
convenient for the lady members of my family who use it with perfect
safety and without any other attendant. .
Should the further development of batteries increase the
one charge distance to say 75 to 100 miles for an ordinary carriage
seating four persons I predict for such a vehicle a great demand.
Very truly yours,
To/V iy as
Orricr or SOUTH BEND,!INDIANA
Ma.Caruiste UNITED STATES OFAMERICA
June 29-1910
& Hon, Thomas A. Edison,
Llewellyn Park,
Orange, HN. J.,
Dear Mr, Edison:-
It is a pleasure to have your letter of the
2end instant and we are interested in the comments that
you make, That certainly will be an interesting record
that you are developing with reference to the owners of
electric automobiles and I am sure it will develop or
rather it will emphasize the importance of. organization ,
. The Exide people have a strong organization,
It is their ability and their facility to look after
the electric car locally that makes their product
attractive, I do not know what the electric vehicle
manufacturer would do if it did not have this protection
back of it, particularly so out on the Pacific coast and
in the middle west where electric vehicles are occasione-
ally dropped in for use here and there, '
We know from our own experience that the.
battery of an electric vehicle requires intellectual
care, and we find all the difference in the world when
these batteries are looked after by a man who understands
his business and who gives to it thought and care vs, the
man who does not care and lets somebody else pay the bill,
Our experience has brought us in contact with all kinds
of conditions,even in garages where expert experience
is presumed available,
We are making some pretty fine developments
in New York, but we must confess the battery proposition
has been more tnan a passing discouragement, lir, Redden
manager of our automobile department in New York, told
me some time ago that they were vatching the development
of your battery that they are now experimenting with
closely, and of course we all hope for a brilliant
success, :
Hrs, Carlisle joins with me in greetings and
best wishes to you and all members of your family, and
we often wish that we might have the pleasure of a visit
from you here at South Bend, ; ary
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With greetings and best wishes, believe ue, 7 ‘
Cordially yours, ; :
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June 30th, 1910
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, N. J.
Dear Sirs="
One of your representatives called here to get some
information regarding batteries. We took on the Waverley
electric line eleven years ago and received the oars at first
with the National batteries in. These were made in Buffalo.
After about four months use the batteries dropped from a
mileage of about 35 miles to about 9 or 10, After a lot
of work on the batteries the Waverley Co. exchanged all of
them for new sets of Gould batteries. These batteries
gave a little better service but we had the same trouble over
again and finally the Waverley for half price replaced them
for Ekide batteries. These gaye us the same trouble as the
others and at last as you know like a great many ether
agents we gave up the eleotric business in disgust. ‘The
-oars themselves were absolutely reliable and we did not have
any trouble with them in any way. Our whole trouble lay
in the batteries. The connections between the jars broke,
the jars themselves broke and the sedement from the positive
Plates would shake loose and drop in the bottom of the jar
and short oirouit the cells. These troubles were :
continually arising from the time the batteries had run
from a thousand miles up. We delivered about 26 cleotrics
in Jersey Oity but up to the present time there is only one of
them left and it is very doubtful if there will be any more
“eleotrios here for a long time. Battery troubles have left
@ very bad impression and I think to get any ecleotric cars
in here you would have to give them to them and allow them
to pay for them at the end of twelve months if satisfactory.
Respeotfully yours,
G E, Blakeslee.
Cresoent Automobile Oo.,
2565 Boulevard,
Jersey City, NJ.
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July 7th, 1910.
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Menlo Park, N. J,
Dear Sir:-
In response to your inquiry by Hr. Marcus G. Hopkins,
in regard to my exnerience with an electric automobile driven
by a storage battery, I beg to say that I did have such an auto-
mobile at one time and so far as the machine itself was concerned.
I had ne fault to find with it. The weakness, however, lay in
the source of pnower which was storage batteries. These batteries
I found not only very short lived for such service but they also -
gave considerable trouble on account of short circuiting in var-
ious ways and indeed they caused me so much trouble that the car
was practically useless on their account and I felt obliged to.
Yours very truly,
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re and in conversation with him, requested me to write hese
in reference to my opinion, as to an electric motor C3
which I owned three years ago. eet
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My experience covered a period of one year with
a Pope-Waverley, with which I probably covered two thousand
miles. Since that time I have been operating gasolene
ears, and between the two motive powers , there is no com—
parison.
The electric motive power is easy manipulation;
no noise or excitement of any kind while operating; so
easy of manipulation that after running forty-five or
fifty miles, that you feel no fatigue whatsoever, which
is the direct opposite in running a gasolene car.
I think that the Motor car is an ideal car for
pleasure trips, and if I could be assured that sufficient
power could be stored in a car, which would give continuous
aa from one hundred or one hundred and fifty miles,
I would prefer it to ali others. ; 7
I have been interested in reading the artidves
evidently written by yourself or your representatives,
regarding the battery which you have perfected for use
in electric vehicles, and sincerely hope it will »e success—
ful, as I pelieve the electric power is. the coming motive
power, not only for pleasure menos ens: ‘but ee other
things.
Yours. very truly,
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‘Mr. Insull, as“he ‘was ‘Leaving the it - asked¢me~to . 5
p with you directiy ‘the ‘question-of “sp £tions for et
en Wagons for this: ‘Company a’ use “to which he refered” "in er
Wis letter of June 254, - ee aac Oe
In general terms we would want these wagons capable
of carrying 3,000 puunds, although‘ they ‘would rarely be load«
ed with very much over one-half this amount. We would want
them capable of going fourteen or fifteen miles: per hour on
good roada. We wiuld want the bodies to be of the open express
wagon type, similar to those of the wagons now in: use by us,
and last, but not least, we would want the batteries to be
Edison batteries of: just whatevér type you would recommend
for this class of service. Bees Wises
We have figured with the Lansden Company once or
twice, but as yet have bought ‘no“wagons of them, . They may
for this reason not’ feel’ disposed to’spend’as much time on
working out the details ‘of’ our requirements “which they other«
wise would, Mr. Insull, however, aske me to state to you
that we will buy two of these wagons immediately from them
if their price is right.
As to our service in general, I might for the :
information of yourself and the vehicle people, say that we
do a general wiring construction business and also a jobbing
business in supplies in connection with our Central Station.
FORM oe e20-08 BOM
COMMONWEALTH EDISON Company,
EoIson Bunoins, 139 Avams STREET,
CHICAGO, Itt,
ADOMESR ALL COMMUNICATIONS To THE COMPANY
T. A. EB (2) July 19. 1910,
This resulta in our maintaining a large warehouse in the
center of the city and branch warehouses at three or four
points in the outekirts, There is a great deal of hauling
done between the main store and branches and also to custom.
ers premises, The loads, while at times they may be heavy,
are generally speaking light, and it is very essential that
these wagons should be able to make the speed referred to.
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Dear Sir:
I have had four electric vehicles since
1900 for ny private use,
I have two at ny place at Bernardsville at the
present time, one a& Columbia Victoria and the other
& Baker Victoria. lis. Kuser and I use them for
short runs every day during our stay at Bornardsville,
which is nine months out of the year.
They have given very good satisfaction and the
only drawback, if any, that we find with the electric
vehicles is battery trouble and lack of mileage. ‘The
limit that I can get out of a now battery is about forty
miles on a full charge on the Bernardsville hills.
; oC eee,
Very truly yours,
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
West Orange, New Jersey.
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I would report on my visit to the Keystone Vehicle Co.,
at Reading, Pa., as follows:
The plant is of fair sizc, employing ©85 men. ‘Tne
Concern i8 maneged by Mz. Joha L. Coxe, who seems very capable
and intelligent,
The Saiple wagon way nearly completed, and wald huve
bean shipped Saturday, had I not given them instructions to put
on tho signs, which will delay shipment until Monday.
Vhe capacity of this plent as for as our proposition is
Concerne&, would be 20 wagens per week, and four weeks to complete
the first 20, after which 20 could be shipped each week. At
present they ero quite busy manufacturing automobile bodies. One
of t+hoir customers is who Yerminel Vaxicab Comany, “washington,
D. c., who have ordered ten bodies, in thich the Idism Rattery
is to pe placed.
These people have made over 1500 wagons for the frand
Union Vea Company, and 500 for The Great Atlantic and Pacific
fee Company, all of which are used on about the same roeds end
under the séno conditions of our scheme. I have brought photo~
graphs of these wagons vith me.
They say that ® saving in freight could be made by
shipping to difterent points in carlioad lots, end then meke
distribution from the point ghipped.to. The cost of e cer with
Seven wegons from Reading to Chicago is (55.00.
It will be scen in the photographs of tho Tea wagons
thet there is great opportunity for advertising on the side
panels. This lessens the cost of the wagon to us, and increases
the advertising valuc , tome, I think we will save about {:8.00
on each wagon by this Tea Company construction. ‘Tho panels are
solid, but are finished by putting the lithograph (backed by
canvass), on the outside. When this is varnished, it is servic~
eble and very bright in appearancé, and is certainly ea great
advertising opportunity.
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The Rauch & Leng Carriage Co.,
Clevelend, Ohio.
Gentlemen:
One of our salcsmen while recently in Detroit
hed occasion to call on your agents, Neumen & Co., and,
without disclosing his identity, sounded them out on
the subject of the Kdison battery. ie hac made it
quite clcar to us thet Neumon & Co. ere not making
efforts to introduco the Edison battery, nor are they
limiting thomselves to the making of tests, but on the
contrary ero going out of their way to discredit tho |
battery end ‘abepicragos t as disparagingly as possible.
When I was in Clevolend, your Mr. Weiber told mo that
Neuman & Co. had tho battory in Detroit solely for the
purpose of tosting it and that thoy had partiouler instruc-
tions to give it a porfootly fair show and under no cir-
cunstences to ettempt to discredit it. It is clear
to us that Noumen & Co. are not carrying out your instruc-
tions and we must therefore insist thet tho battery be
roturned to gu at Cleveland, or, if this is not con-
veniont, returned to us, and we will sive full credit
for tho same.
Ieter on Messrs. Neuman & Co. mey change thoir
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attitude regarding the Edison battory, ond in that event
thore would bo no objoction to your letting thom have
ears equipped with the battery; but et the present time
they are cortainly doing no good for the Rauch 2 Leng car
48 8 vehicle for the Edison battery. @he fact that
Newnan & Coe have not sold this single car, while the
inderson Cerrisge Company ere Selling vehicles by the
dozon oquinped with Edison betteries is a very go00a indi-
cation thet your agents in Detroit are enverently not
making the prope offorts to agvence either your inter-
eSts or our own.
Yours very truly,
pip/ ry Vice-President.
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Understanding that you are interested in the service
rendered by electric pleasure vehicles, I em vlad to give you
my personal experience.
In key, 1908, after inspecting a number of makes,we
decided upon a Baker Victoria Pheeton, it being equipred with
an Exide Battery of 24 cells, 9 NV, and up to dete have not
regretted the purchase.
Outside of tire troubles we have hed splendid suec-
cess, the car has been in the shop but once; in April 1910
Sie plates were washed and acid renewed at an expense of about
40.00.
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Dear Sir:- Wo I ponte fue
In March, 1909, the two reer tires were replaced by
Dayton airless tires, which, the Beker people claim has caused
the mileage to decrease, but the added comfort of feeling that
they at least would not puncture more than makes up for the
loss of 5 or 6 miles on 2 charge. We had 55 miles, and down
to 48 before changing tires; since then it has rm down to
42. For awhile before washing plates we could not get much
over 56 miles.
We charge the car ourselves now (for awhile it was
done at a public garage ) running it up to 61 on high amperare
end again to approximately the same on 9 or 10 amperes, gener-
ally discharging to 40 to 42 volts. The Mercury Arc Recti-
fier (G. E.) has been tested a number of times, but it still
takes from 12 to 14 hours to charge the car, end as there is
not an automatic starter it is necessary to keep pretty close
watch so as to start the rectifier up again whenever the
Public Service people see fit to change engines or interfere
in any wey with the current.
The last of August, 1909, I left Rest Orange on
account of sickness, returning lest of April, 1910; the car wag
Jacked up to spare the tires, but was not touched otherwise.
Upon return, Lir. Platt, of Baker Company, felt sure the bat-
teries would need considerable attention, but I fed them very
slowly at about 10 emperes for 25 or 50 hours, and had 33 mileg -
tried this two or three times, but not for so many hours, with
same results, after which a mechinist came from the Baker Co's,
shop, went over everything carefully, but dia nothing seve clean
aa old oi1 and renew the lubrication, and expressing his sur.
prise. ;
We have had 40 to 44 miles on each charge since then,
and if it did not take go terribly long to get the car ready
for the road, and coulda get more miles out of a charge, there
tet eee cee ee ee sth is | te aa en le nt td
No, 2. To Thos. A. Edison. DATE 8/6/10.
would not be the slishtest complaint. ly wife also runs a
gasoline car, but she clings to the little vheeton as her first
and best love.
Yerdon length of this letter, but your Mr. Hopkins
stated you would like to know my experience and what I thought
of electric vehicles for pleasure, so I have spun out this tale.
Yours truly,
MEsoRereher——
of 46 Chestnut Street,
East Orange, Il. J.
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TELEPHONE MAIN 638
LAW OFFICES OF
VAMES K.JONES
621-622 COLORADO BUILDING
WASHINGTON,D.C, September 19, 1910.
‘Frank L. Dyer, Esq., Vi
Orange, N. J. i
My dear Mr. Dyer:
I am figuring on getting me a new electric car, and have been
discussing with the agent the question of buying a car containing the
new. Edison battery.
You may remember that I have asked you about this battery
several times. The agent for the automobile company does not seem
to have any very definite idea what this vattery will do - about its
Mileage performance as well as its lasting qualities.
I am considering installing in this car a battery of the type
known as "A 6", and I write to ask if you will not have some one
connected with the company give me information concerning the mile-
age performance as well as the probable liffe of such a pattery.
I am voxe by the agent of the automobile company that the
literature sent out by the nakesfs of the battery give no light upon
these two subjects, and as the bateeny is a new one, I don't like to
go to the expense of having it instailed without move information
then I now have. From what I am told, it would appear that it will
cost some $600. or $700. more to have the Edison "A 6" battery in-
stalled than the Standard’ Exide pattery now used in these cars.
Thanking you in advance for your courtesy in the PESmTnees |
fore. ae
i.an,
Yours very truly,
}} ri Sept. 20,2910,
Jas. K, Jones, Esa.,
621 Colorado Building,
Washington, D. G,
iy dear lr. Jones:-
Your favor of the 19th inst. has
beon received, If you purchaso on cleetric car that has
been roasonebly well designed I an sure that you will have
very satisfactory servico from the Edigon battery. Let mo
Imow what car you propose buying end I will tell you whee
thor I think it is all right. If you heve never had any
experience with storege battories you probably will not
fully appreciate the good points of the Faison battery,
but I am sure if the bettery is given proper attention
that you will heve no occasion Lo rogxet buyine an clectric
machine, Washington in fact is en ideal city for machines
of this type. There can be absolutely no comperison betweon .
the clectric automobile and the 28 car so far as economy
of operation, convenicnco, cleanliness, and goneral all
around service are concernod, all of these fectors being
enormously in favor of the electric machine, With an A-6
Edison battery on the streets of Washington you ought to
be able to get a mileage of from 75 miles to 150 miles per
"we
#e2- Jas, K. Jones, Esq.
charge, or cven more. Wo heve run Anderson end Bailey
cers over the roads of New Jersey, encountering protty
good hills with mileages up to 140 miles and the Beker
Company rocently opereted one of their cers ovar the
streets of Cleveland end obtained a mileage of ovor, 200
miles, We ere gueranteeing the Edison bettory when used
in commercial trucks to last at least three yearp, and
Since the service in e pleasure vehicle is not go hard
on the battery you ourht to get considerably longer life,
The ordinary lead battery cannot be derended upon for
much longer than one year, I believe thet then the public
comes to an approciation of tho Edison battery it will be
used exclusively in the operation of olectric vohicies,
Yours very truly,
PID/ ARK, Vice-President,
TELEPHONE MAIN 828
\ "1 LAW OFFICES OF
ry UAMES K.JONES
qo 621-G22 COLORADO BUILDING
WASHINGTON OSs September 21, 1910.
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Frank L. Dyer, Esq., . p
The Edison Storage Battery Company, vo
Orange, N. de
My dear Mr. Dyer:
Your letter of Sept. 20th is received. I have had a Columbia
electric car for about three years - or, to be exact, I have had two
ot these cars. The one I now have I purchased in May 1908, and the
garage people teil me I must have a new battery put in. It therefore
‘occurred to me that instead of putting a new battery in this car, Tf
would buy a Columbia cay of the 1911 type, which is made so that the
‘Hdison battery may be instatled.
The agent of the Columbia car tells me that the lead battery in
the 1911 car will make about 75 miles on a@ charge. The battery in
use in the present cay when new will make about 50 miles, but if the
Hdisoi battery is a decided improvement over the old pattery I want
to use that instead of the lead battery. It was for this reason that
I wrote you for the information which you so very Kindly sent me in
ia your lettor of yesterday.
na This Columbia agent tells me he can deliver a 1911 carwith an
-exide pattery which will make about 75 miies on a charge for $1750,
-" put the same car with the Edison 6 A battery will cost about $2400.
It would appear to make the Edison battery cost $450. more than the
J” Exide vattery, though you get more mileage out of the Edison pattery
& E
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and it would probably last longer.
I note you state you guarantee the commercial truck for a
period of three years, and that you think a battery in a pleasure
vehicle ought to have a longer iife. I assume from this, there-
fore, that you do not guarantee a battery when in use in a pieasure
vehicle.
I nute that the Baker people have operated one of their cars
over the streets ol Cleveland and obtained a mileage of something
over 200 miles. I do not care for the Baker car, however, but I
am very partial to the Columbia. It would seem, though, that the
battery ought to perform in‘a Columbia car fully as well as it does
in a Baker or in an Anderson & Bailey.
With many thanks for your courtesies in this connection, I
am,
Yours very truly,
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DR. FRANK G, LIGHTNER,
Sabin, Ohio,
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Sept, 2lst. 10.
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Mr. Thos. A Edison, | G9 Ge. Geo,
Orange ry NeJe
Sir:
reer T am an Fx. Tel. Opr., and several years ago worked with
you in the Cintie Ofe. (0) I am wanting a good used Elec. Auto. if
ean find one costing me not over $600.00 and thought perhaps you
might help me to fing it? IP SO THE KINDNESS WILL ALWAYS BE
REMEMBERED
Hoping to receive word from you, I am
Yours frat?
Ver
Sept. 23, 1910,
James K, Jones, Esa.,
621 Colorado Building,
Washington, D.C,
“My dear Mr. Jones:-
. Your favor of the 21st inst, has
been received, So far as I know the Columbia car is oe
entiroly satisfactory and I understand the 1911 type
has been built to take the Edison Battory. We have not
made any tosts with the Columbia car, but I see no
reason why it should not work as satisfactorily as ony
of the other cars with which we have made caroful testa,
I am informed that tho menufacturers of the Columbia
oar are very closely affiliated with the Exide people
in Philadelphia, so that I do not think they sre partic-
wlarly anxious to put in the Edison battery unless they
have to. If you cannot make a satisfactory arrangemont
with the agent of the Columbia car in Washington end
still feel that you would like to use the Edison battery,
I would suggost that you purchase a car without batter-
ies end have them make a suitable allowance to you for
tho battery. An allowance of at least $200 should be
- Bee thet you receive every consideration, and I am quite
: I kmow thet you will bo more then pleased with the conormous
r ‘PLD/ ARK, j Vice-Prosident,
CE ae ore
#2 —- James K. Jones, Esq.
_imade and perhaps more, which would bring the cost of the
car to you 31550 and perhaps less. You could thon purchase
the battery d§rectly from us. The cost of forty A-6 colls
of Edison bettery would be }800, It is a fact that while
. we guarantee tho battery for use in commercial trucks we
ao not make a guarantee for use in connection with pleasure
“. vehicles, for the reason that in tho caso of trucks we
can keop a reasonably close supervision over the instella-
tion, but in the case of pleasuro vehicles it is impossible
to do this. However, in view of our own personel rolations,
should you purchase an Kéison battery, I would, of course,
“gure thet you would not be disavpointed with it. With the
experience you have had in the operation of clectric cers
‘adventages of the Edison battery.
Yours very truly,
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My dear Mr.Edison: . YY peri ;
I and some of my friends have become ixfter-
ested in the development of an invention of 3
Chas,R,Pratt, with whose reputation as mech
engineer you are perhaps familiar.
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The device is known as, "rotary piston unit",
and is applicable to all the principal forms of pow-
er tranamission, among them power driven vehicles.
I remember when you were here some months ago
you said something about being interested in power
driven vehicles for hauling freight, I think Mr.
Pratt's device would be well adapted to that kind of
vehicle, He has just completed and is about to in-
stall a unit for trial on a London bus.
He would like you to see the device,or his
drewings,and to have an opportunity to explain it to
you. He expects to sail for Europe the latter part '
of next week. I feel sure that you will be interest- :
ed in the device and that it would be worth your
while to look into it. Would you be willing to make
an appointment for Mr.Pratt at Orange on Monday,
Tuesday or Wednesday of next week? I will endeavor
to accompany Mr.Pratt if you have no objection,
With kind regards,
Yours very truly,
iMir. Thos. A.Edison,
Llewellyn Park,
Orange, N.J.
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A.B.C. FIFTH EDITION,
Mr. John R. Anderson,Jr.,
The Edison Laboratory,
Orange, N. d.
Dear Sirs-
Your letter of Nov. 4th at hand. I beg to say that our test Victoria in
New York is equipped with a 4S volt motor, and I have sent material to our New York
representative with which he oan inorease the speed of the motor on short notice
sufficient to obtain a greater number of miles per hour on any test run Hr, Edison
cares to have made. As I stated to Mr. Edison before, I gladly will consent to
any test he suggests, and have issued instructions in this respect to our New
York agent.
Yours very truly,
The Baker Motor Vehiole Co.
G,-No.1,.
November 26th, 1910,
Mr. Frank L. Dyer.
Dear Sir:~
The Columbus Buggy Company up to the present time have only
bought one A~4 battery - 40 cells, This they returned to
us and we sent them in exchange 40 A+~6's which they paid for.
We know they have made a-.test as our Mr. Frayer was there
when some of it was going on. They agreed to send us copies
of it but they have never. done so0 and we have not heard any
further from them in regard to Edison batteries, and we don't
expect very mich from them, but if you are in Columbus it
would be well for you to call on Mr. Firestone, Sr., and have
a talk with him, and you might mention that we have received
from Anderson since last February $136 000.00 for Edison
batteries.
Regarding the R & L situation. They or their agents are still
knocking Edison batteries very hard, and they have paid for,
up to the present time, seven sets 40 A-6's. T have been told
that they have renewed their contract with the Exide people
for 1911. Also have been told that Mr. Rauch was @ stock.
holder in the Electric Storage Battery Co., this may be simply
hearsay, however.
Studebaker I think we had better let rest. The delivery wagons
in Edison batteries, in fact we could not do so to good ad-
vantage. We have recently refused to accept orders for batteries
with which to equip their 2,500~1b. vehicles. ‘here are all
sorts of rumors about these people, some are to the effect that
they are going out of the electric vehicle business, another is
that they are going to build a large Plant in South Bend and
were going to push electric vehicle business. What I should
recommend is not to bother with them at present and when we are
in shape to get out our orders promptly then we might push them
through other channels, viz., Morgan & Co.,
Woods Motor Vehicle Co., I think is out of the question as we
camot interest them further with Edison batteries; better let
them rest until the public demand. that they furnish vehicles —
. equipped with. Edison batteries,
Strongly recommenda, 1f you go to Detroit, that you call up Mr.
a
Anderson on the 'phone with a view to getting a general talk with
him regarding the situation.
WGB/p3 ae Gee
‘ 7 aay
BN FA - Mae
Philadelphia, Pa; November 27, 1910,
‘ Thenas A, Edison sq,
Orange, No J. (ua
Dear Sir:-
A shoxt time ago a Philadelphia paper published that
you intended to put an Electric Fanily Pleasure Car en the
market, which would he a car fer the niddle clbs@arcygerle,
inexnensive te maintain and low in price,
If I an net imposing tee uuch upon yaur valuable tine and
genorisity , wauld you kindly let me knew what the selling price
ef this Electric Vehicle will he, and hew soon yau will put it
upen the market, how nuch it will cest me to run it, and hew
many miles it will run before it reay ‘au recharging,
e
CN tie as
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Quem, tol 2
F.A.BABCOCK, Prasidant & General Manager. FRANK L, BAPST, Vice President HARRY YATES, Traasurer.
OFFICE & SALESROOM,
226 W.UTICA ST,
NY Dec. 7, 1910,
F. LL. PERLEY, Generar manacer ot sates,
Mr. Thomus A. Edison, President,
The Edison Storage Battery Company, ae _
Orange, NW. 7. Hep Ee)
near Sirt-«
The weiter has just returned fron his vacation of several
weeks, and notes that vou are doing guite considerable advertising
in the papers relative to vour battery and the Electric vehicle muan-
ufacturers that are using it, and we observe that our name is not
included in the list of those that are ready to install vour hatte-
ries when wanted, and we feel that this is hardly fair to us.
We will agree that we have not been able thus far to pro~
duce the results with our cars with your battery, that we are so
anxious to do, but that we are ready and willing to equip any of our
cars with your battery, is a fact, and we feel that in justice to
ourselves, the least you cun do is to include our name amongst the
other makers.
We assure you that as soon as we can make some changes
in our electrical equipment (we refer especially to the motor » we
expect to be able to dispose of a goodly number of sets of your bat}
teries. In the meantime we are advising our agents and all inquir-
3
ers that we are ready to furnish Rdison batteries where wanted.
With the writer's personal regards, we are-
Yours very truly,
BABCOCK ELECE
FRANK L. DYER,
ORANGE, Ne ie
REPER TO THIS NUMBER
IN YOUR REPLY
‘ MEMORANDUM
- AGBIS__
lr. Boo: 12/13/10.
When in Detroit on Thursday I met the Treasurer of the
Lozier Motor Car Co. and had a little talk with him. I mentioned .
particularly our new sparking batteries and told him that at the
price the Lozigk. cars were selling thoy should be equipped with
the very best end highest type of accessories and that they shoulda
use the Edison baettories. He said that they had thought of doing
s0, were interested, and would be gled to look further into it.
I wish, thereforo, that you would errenge to send one or two trial
sets of sparking battories to Mr. Anderson as soon as possible and
heve him turn them over to the Lozier people in order to tost
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them out. Of course this wants to be done just as coon as possi-
ble, and you went to be certain that the betterics are in good
shepe.
F. LL. D.
TON oe momen eae RTE,
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22il PARKWOOD AVENUE
TOLEDO, OHIO.
December 26, 191C.
Mr. Thomas A. Edison, ;
Crange, lie Je ee ee ae
HEU toes ae
Dear Sir:-
I regret exceedingly that before leaving
Orange, I did not have an opportunity tc thenk you
for the much appreciated photcgraph which, thru your
kindness, reached me by the ccurtesy ef Mr.Hutchison.
This photograph, as it hangs in my study,
will be an ever present reminder of the greatness of
your works, and will add tc my desire tc help make
the Fdison Battery and the Battery Car one of your ”
greatest and most successful aids to ccmmerce and
humanity.
Your caution, as to not overloading any
Battery Car installation financially, will be strictly
observed, sc that our record will consist of paying
propositions and not of failures.
Assuring you of my greatful eppreciation
of your kindness and the courtesy of your assistants,
“I an,
Very respectfully yours,
. Auadtey
; ELECTRIC
; CARRIAGES, DELIVERY
ho ‘ Ys : WAGONS AND TRUCKS
"THE Waverey (Ompany
INDIANAPOLIS, IND.,U.S.A.
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December 29, 120.
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Dear Mr. Edison: D edee 15 freeearege yom heat bt
A very interesting article
by you appears in the "Carriage & Wagon
Builder" for December, and I hope you wild
not take offense if I take exoaption to Y
the article to thie SEietbeg
You rebhe 5 CP Wen CR, ioe 1
delivery wagons a: to the fact that the
commercial vehicles now being manufactured
costing from "32,000 to $3,000 each are
absurdly high in priced, i A s that,
Mr. Thos. A. Edison,
Orange, N. d.
We build our oy, ontroliefs, &
motors, and in fact nearly wll the ca
except the battery, but taking the standard
prices for these articles and addins there-
to the price of the battery, it does not =
seem that the time is ripe when a one ton ;
wagon can be sold for much lessé A really 7
light car such as you are talking about
woujd, of course, be considerably less,
but even then the component parts, in-
cluding tires, would run the price way
above $600 or $700. :
How can we who are trying to
displace the horse and create a wider
market hope to do so if such a great
authority as yourself makes a public
statement that our prices are too high and
that it never can be done. Prices can
only come down as the output is increased
sufficiently to bring about lower manw-
facturing costs. It seems to ma the only
THOS. A. EDISON....0-#2.
vay that the output can be increased is
y talking up the present cars until
both you and ourselves can reduce the
cost of our product because of our
greater output.
I only call attention to this
matter as one equally interested with you
in popularizing the electric delivery
Care
I hope I may have the opportunity
of meeting you again at Show time. I en-
joyed exceedingly my call at your labor.
atory last winter.
Yours truly,
THE WAVERLEY COMPANY.
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Vice-Pres. & Managers
HHR-S
ARTHUR WILLIAMS
FIFTY-FIVE DUANE STREET
NEW YORK
29th December 1910
Thomas A Edison Esq
Llewellyn Park,
New Jersey
Dear Mr Edison
It gives me a grect deal of pleasure to
acknowledge the receipt of your favor of the 24th instant.
The garage question has been receiving considerable atten-
tion, though as yet nothing definite has been done. I
shall bring the matter to Mr Brady's attention at the earliest
possible moment.
You will be interested to know that Mr Brady
has taken the chairmanship of the Advertising Committee of
The Electric. Vehicle Association of America. One meeting
hea been held, from which I am strongly of the opinion that
the movement is going to be very successful.
With best wishes for the New Year, believe
me, |
Sincerely yours
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1910. Automobile - Anderson Carriage Company (D-10-02)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to
the use of Edison storage batteries in electric vehicles made by the
Anderson Carriage Co. in Detroit, Michigan. Included are notes by Edison
regarding the weight and efficiency of the vehicles, as well as
correspondence with William C. Anderson, president of the company, about
the outfit, performance, and promotion of its Detroit Electric automobile.
All of the documents have been selected except for duplicates.
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MAKERS OF leo.
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OUR ELECTRICS WILL RUN FARTHER ON
ONE CHARGE THAN ANY OTHER IN THE WORLD
Detroit, Mich. seny. 8,1920
Thos. Edison,Esq.,
Orange,N.J.
Dear Mr.Edison:
I am much pleased to acknowledge receipt of
your beautiful catalogue and I have carefully read the same
and in return take pleasure in mailing you our catalogue
describing our proposition and illustrating our nine models.
The writer leaves for New York to-morrow and shall
arrange in some way to call upon you before returning, as I desire
to have a personal interview with you and also have both of our
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engineers accompany me.
ours very truly,
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Thomas A, Edison,Esq., or Sy
Orange N.Jd.
Dear Mr. Edison; we" By
I am enolosing you herewith a page taken from
The Central Station magazine and would like to call your
attention to the manner in which the Electric Storage
Battery Co. strike us between the eyes. You will note
every maker of electrics in this country is mentioned in
this ad. They have kept up this method of trying to
blackmail us for more than a year because we refused to
sigm their contract which you are familiar with.
=:
We are compelled to use a few Exide batteries.
Last year we paid them about $30,000. but this year we
doubt if.we will call on them for over $10,000. You will
note they have exceeded the limit in order to get a long
list of makers, Below we will estimate for your information
the number of cars each one of these makers build.
Baker Motor claim (and I guess it can be depended
upon) they will make this year, 600;
Bailey, you are familiar with his output and
I doubt if he has ordered from them more than
3 sets of batteries in a year;
Broc Electric, Possibly, 753
Columbus Buggy, 500;
Champion Wagon, possibly, trucks, ‘50;
Couple Gear, 50;
Columbia Motor Car, estimate, 100;
eae. Carriage have never built an electric
as yet;
General Vehicle, you are familiar with;
Ideal Electric, started to build 100 and
Chicago papers claim they are in receiver's hands;
Kimball, Chicago, built 9 cars last year and is
out of business this year, bea | R&L of
Cleveland;
THE ANDERSON CARRIAGE Co.
Thomas A, Edison : . Page -26
Rauch & Lang claim they will build, 800;
but we doubt if they exceed. 500;
Studebaker, pleasure end, if possible, 100;
Waverley, between 500 and 600;
Woods, 350.
This advertisement is a strong appeal to the people
and we are frequently asked why we don'tt use the Exide
battery, but we determined upon the open door policy ,namely;
not to tie up exclusively to any lead battery. We are the
ones they are fighting in their periodical ads,claiming to
supply 90% of all the batteries used in electric cars.
They know our output will equal two of the largest builders
they advertise and it makes them feel awfully sore and it also
makes them feel sore to think they can hypnotize or tie up
all of the other makes but the Anderson garriage Co.
On the opposite side of this page, you will see
our ad. We regard this as a pretty strong appeal. It isa
hard thing for them and no doubt makes both the storage
battery and electric car builders feel terribly sore but
it is just as the writer stated when down there, you will
never get your battery on the market unless you advertise it
and make the public demand the manufacturer to put it ina
car. We have taken the lead and are willing to do so0 but
we want your conoperation in every way and you ought to assist
us to the extent of at least $15,000 to put half page ads in
all of the leading deéily papers in New York, Cleveland, Buffalo,
Rochester, Detroit, Toledo, Chicago, Denver, in fact covering
the whole country. A large well written ad filled with cuts
of the battery and saying to the world, you are ready to
deliver batteries. yt need not be stated in the ad, if you
do not wish it, that we and Bailey build a line of cars that
will receive your battery,- we are not particular about that,
but tell the world that your battery is ready and is being
used by several of the leading manufacturers or something
along that line,
Every day and hour that I mix with our home people,
I am asked the question, what is this I hear about Edison's
battery? Are they ready to say. it is all right and are they
ready to make deliveries? The public has been lied to by
reporters for the last 5 to 7 years to the effect, you had
built a battery and got it well in their mind that on account
of its not being followed up and used as it is now being used
by us, that it was a failure. fake it you are in touch with
what the public feeling is, A strong well written ad, setting
forth what your position has been in the past and is at
TuE ANDERSON CARRIAGE Co.
Thpmas A, Edison Page =3.
present, would start up a demand here that would just
everlastingly stop this nasty talk. jf they cannot stop
an intending purchaser from buying on the claim you have
not sufficient voltage and you could not gp up a hill,
they will start the story now in Summer, that in Winter
your battery freezes and it is impossible to use it in
cold weather and so on. They have a dozen or more ways to
embarrass us and keep us on the defense all the time.
To review the silly inquiries we received would confince
you that the public is as ignorant as a flock of sheep. .
; If my idea appeals to you as being right,
that instead of spending a large portion of your money in
tne periodivals, that a good share of this be thrown into
the public press, would like you to advise me. You can get
large and extended write-ups in every paper with a fair sized
ad. Hundreds of thousands of people will see it and read it.
and it will start them to talking your battery and will toa
great extent stop the infernal misstatements. A guarantee
“such as we put out in our advertisement can be so worded that
it will protect you and protect us. Here in this city when
a man questions the battery, I immediately say to him, we
are repponsible and our warranty is good when we sign it and
we are ready to sign it upon certain conditions, to the effea
that the Edison battery will give you 50,000 miles without
expense other than the renewal of the solution, etc.
Mr. Dyer has been here and looked our facilities
over and can explain, and no doubt has by this time, that
we are in a position to handle the business. yf he has visit
ed the other makers, he can undoubtedly make some compari sons
that will be of interest to you. Our selling agencies through
out the country are made up of the highest class dealers and
we are in a position to give you a volume of business that
will surprise you. we can just as well sell 100 sets of
batteries a month as to be selling the number we are now,
if two things are done, namely;
A reasonable amount of judicious advertising
through the daily papers and it is done now and let us
co-operate with you.
; Second; Keep us supplied with batteries. The idea
of our trying to handle our business on a stock order of 25
batteries is ridiculous. We have lost the sale since I was.
in Orange and held up shipments of several cars. Only one of
the three shipments that was booked for us has arrived.
Orange is located badly for Detroit so far as railroad
connections are concerned. [t is reported that you have only
a local depot and it takes longer to get a shipment out of
THE ANDERSON CARRIAGE Co,
Thomas A, Edison Page -4-
Orange into Buffalo than it takes from New York to Chicago
not only account of your depot being a local one and but
one freight a day, but the fact they run them into Buffalo
and there they are transferred and delayed and held up
and then they strike another local out of Buffalo instead
of a through freight. I am going to: have our commercial man
look this up. our opinion is now that these shipments
should be routed, now that navigation is opened, via Buffalo
c/o D & B boats which leave Buffalo every afternoon at four
o'clock and arrive here the next morning. Furter information
regarding this we will have sent to your company.
Hoping this will have yours and Mr. Dyer'a
careful consideration and we will hear from you by return
tiail as to what your ideas are in the premises, we remain,
Yours truly, pee aan els yas wey
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52 THE CENTRAL SLA TION.
This Car Convinced the Experts
A more sincere tribute was never paid to the high
standard of this electric than its choice by fourteen
makers of gas cars for their private garages.
The luxurious trappings, the generous proportions of
the Detroit challenge your admiration ; but these manu-
facturers demanded more than grace of line—they had
to be convinced of the mechanical worth of the car.
The Detroit is not merely a thing of beauty—it is a
Every one of our:-nine models
comes to you completely fitted for
your comfort and convenience. .
They range in price from $1650 to
$2500.
The Wizard used nickei and steel
and made a battery of lighter weight
and greater ampere-hour capacity,
mileage efficiency.
Good for 50,000 Miles —
‘The Edison Battery
Anderson Carriage Company, Dept. CS, Detroit, Mich.
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joy to depend on for pleasure and service over town and
country.
In the Munsey Tour the Detroit, the sole electric —
entered, won the only official certificate ever issued
to an electric in a reliability run. The Detroit will
carry you anywhere an-auto may go with a mileage
radius on a single charge faster than you will care to
tour in a day.
This battery is indestructible. It
cannot deteriorate or sulphate and:
may stand indefinitely without re--
eheraing: All the care it needs is to
“water it” and “ feed it” once a year:
with a solution of caustic potash.
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Let us send you literature that will /
convince you as {o the possibilities of
pleasure and service you may get out,
of a Detroit. ~ : |
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Sixty-Seven Million
KA OW. OH:
to be furnished
~ This will be the approximate demand made this year upon Central Stations
for charging current to supply 10,000 Electric Vehicles that will be sold.
These vehicles ‘are bound to be used in the towns where the greatest c
efforts aré made to popularize the ¢¢ Electric,’ y
Many Central Stations have been active in aiding 10 sell «* Electrics’? and
have earned big incomes from charging them. One station Jast year sold
“$22,000 worth of current for this purpose alone. Remember the Electric
Vehicle furnishes an ¢* off peak’? load. :
“ Here is a list of the leading electric vehicle manufacturers, They all use ace
our battery——the «¥Exfde” : The “Exide” Battery
"Baker Motor Vehicle Co., Columbia Motor Car Co., * C, P. Kimball & Co.,” ;
S.R. Bailey & Co., Inc., Elkhart Carriage & Harness _ Rauch & Lang Carriage Co.,. -
Broc Electric Vehicle Co., Mfg. Co., Studebaker Automobile Co.,
~. Columbus Buggy Co., General Vehicle Co., The Waverley Co., -
Champion Wagon Co., - Ideal Electric Co., < Woods Motor Vehicle Co.
Coupte Gear Freight Wheel Co., ; :
; Would it interest yeu to know what other Central Stations are doing to push the electric? Write us and
-we will show you how to popularize the electric in your town. ‘ ee ae oie he Lhad
THE ELECTRIC STORAGE BATTERY CO.
1888 PHILADELPHIA, PA. 1910
New York Boston Cleveland San Francisco Chicago _— St. Louis
: Atlanta Detroit Denver Toronto
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Busi Builders for th ] i
usiness Builders for the Central Station
Can you think of a possible user of an electric vehicle whose
particular requirements would not be met by one of the ten
shown in the accompanying cuts? ‘These are business builders ‘
for the Central Station worth thousands of electric bulbs,
hundreds of flatirons and scores of arc lights,
Why don’t you go after the business? ;
Exide, Waverley or National Batteries :
Address for full particulars. . j
THE WAVERLEY COMPANY, |
Indianapolis, : : INDIANA. {
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OUR ELECTRICS WILL RUN FARTHER ON
ONE CHARGE THAN ANY OTHER IN THE WORLD
Detroit, Mich, May 19th, 1920
Thos. Edison, Esq., MAY 28 jo10
Orange, N.J.,
My dear Sir:-
Since writing you the longer letter enclosed my
attention has been called to the two copies of advertising which
the Waverly Company have sent out, which are enclosed. Both of
these advertisements carry as far as the public is concerned your
indorsement of the Waverly car. One advertisement is a reported |
direct expression of yours, and the other, a strong recommenda-
tion by reason of the fact that youdrive a Waverly car.
What concerns us in this matter is the fact that
here is a competitor of ours getting the benefit of your standing
in the public and at the same time you are getting no benefit.
from these competitors by reason of their using your batteries.
We are advertising you and your batteries without a personal rec~
ommendation on your part of the Detroit Rlectric being in our
advertisement.
, We would like to be able to Place your indorsement.
of the Detroit Electric in our advertisement in connection with
our indorsement of your batteries. What suggestion have you to
make?
Yours truly,
W.C.A.
[ENCLOSURE]
THE INDIANAPOLIS STAR, THURSDAY, MAY 5, 1910.
“Now that’s the way to build a controller”--Thos. A. Edison
This was the exclamation of the veteran wizard of electrical science after cnrefully examining
the Waverley Patented No-Are Controller.
Mr. Edison himself is an owner and constant user of a Waverley Electric Carringe at his beau-
tiful home, Llewellyn Park, N. J. He has two Waverieys,
‘Fhe Control Js the soul of your safety fn an electric car. It must be instantly responsive and
absolutely dependable.
There are four speeds forward and four reverse in the Silent Waverley. The Interlocking Device
makes it impossible to start the car on any speed except the low, or to reverse the car with the
power on,
No tampering with the handle—whlle you are out of the car—no carelessness whatever,can cause
4 sudden starting of the ear.
So slmple is the Waverley control that you can learn it with one demonstration. And your little
girl can run the car as well as you.
The Silent Waverley Shaft Drive Has
Years of Use Behind It
The silent Waverley is the shaft driven electric carringe—the product of 14 years of electric car-
i tlage manufacture.
‘ The Waverley High-EMmcleney Shaft Drive (Patent applled for) is In its fifth year of road
test, and third year of actual use in the hands of owners.
Let us prove Its efficiency by taking you for a drive about the clty. Let us demonstrate the
Waverley Silent motor. bullt {o stand the greatest overload—the herring-bone sears with an efficl-
ency of 99 per cent, against 65 to 90 per cent In other electrics—the Waverley solld one-piece drop
forged steel front axle made In our own factory. .
Let us show you the beautiful Waverley bodlea with patented drop sill, and unusual window
space. Try Its ensy riding full elliptic springs.
The Silent Waverley is the only electric espccinily designed for solid or pneumatic tires.
Exide, Waverley or Natlonnl batteries as desired,
| THE WAVERLEY COMPANY
H For 14 Years Exclusive Builders of Electric Carriages
139 South East Street Indianapolis, Indiana
i Also sold by HEARSEY-WILLIS CO., 113 West Market Street
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THE INDIANAPOLIS STAR, SUNDAY, APRIL 24, 1910.
—FElectric
_ The Car that Tho
A Waverley Blectric built in Indianapolis. This fact is convincing
ne evidence that the mechanical and electrical features of Waverley
construction satisfy the critical Judgment of the highest electrical
authority in the world, Speaking of the new Waverley Controller at
a recent exhibition in New York Mr, Edison exclaimed, “Now that is
ny the way to build a Controller.”
Thomas J. Fay, another electrical expert, and Editor of The Auto-
mobile, made a careful examination and analysis of the performance
of the New Waverley Motor and wrote of the results of his study:
“A well balanced motor is what is desired; this characteristic as pre-
sented in the Waverley is of just such a well-balanced motor.”
The mechanical effictency of the Waverley Shaft Drive received
u striking tribute the other day when the herringbone gear, which
is used [n this construction, was adopted by the Westinghouse Company
for use in marine turbine engines. Some experiments conducted by
that Company developed the extraordinary results of 98.7 per cent
as the mean average efficiency of this gear, a result that attracted
marked attention from engineers and was fully described and llus-
trated In the Sclentific American,
Waverleys passing Harrison Mon-. re,
6 4
ument, Industrial Parade of nal
April 1st "
CREE!
Mr. Edison's Waverley Leaving Ia Garage.
ampled satisfaction to its users,
the use of this gear,
sUghtest accident or mischance:go wrong.
ton in the country now building electrics,
Phone or call for a demonstration,
Exide, Waverley or National:Batterles sed. ~
The Waverley Company
For 14 years exclusive builders of electric carriages,
139 S. East St, Indianapolis
Also Sold by HEARSEY-WILLIS COMPANY, 113 W. Market St. |
mas A. Edison Drives
The Waverley experts have obtalned equal resalis from the gear
In use with their Shaft Drive, a system of transmission that has been
in use on hundreds of Waverley carriages in the hands of owners in
all parts of the country for nearly two years, and has gtven wnex-
The problem of transmitting power from the motor to the rear
axle with the least possible loss of efficiency (the most important
Problem of electric vehicle construction) has been finally solved by
With these high tndorsements of Waverley efficiency in mind con-
stder the important fact that the Waverley factory {s In your home
elty. The expert advice and assistance of Waverley engineers and
electricians: are always at your service if anything should by the
The Indianapolis owner of a Waverley Electric 1s never at the
mercy of an inexperlenced or careless repair man, but may have at
his call the skill, the science, the training of the oldest factory organiza-
[ENCLOSURE]
This Is One :
This is one of the delivery wagons that we are building for the department
store of the Newcomb-Endicott Co. in Detroit. A number of others of similar
design are being made for Carson, Pirie, Scott & Co. of Chicago.
My - fo ; ; ‘
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The capacity is 1000 Ibs.-the wheel base 84 inches. The equipment consists
_of our specially designed motor with Edison Batteries. This car fully loaded for
the entire distance has been run 93 miles on a charge about the streets of Detroit,
at an average speed of over 12 miles an hour.
Here are a few advantages of The Detroit Electric Power Wagon for you
[ENCLOSURE]
Important to Merchants
to consider in solving your delivery problem:
1.
2.
It cuts delivery cost in two. |
Requires no chauffeur; may be handled by any driver of average intel-
ligence.
Does not need a skilled mechanic to care for the car,
The Edison Battery is practically harm-proof due to its construction of
nickel and steel. With ordinary care it will outlast the car. :
It is free from insurance limitations; may be loaded on docks, in ware-
houses or shipping rooms; and may be garaged on the premises,
Anywhere that an electric may be used, the Detroit Electric Truck is
the ideal delivery vehicle considered from the standpoint of low cost,
cleanliness and care.
Ask our Agent or write direct to
Anderson Carriage Co. y 4
DETROIT, MICH.
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ELECTRIC
OUR ELECTRICS WILL RUN FARTHER ON
ONE CHARGE THAN ANY OTHER IN THE WORLD
Detroit, Mich, Kay 2lat, 1910
Thos. Edison, Esq. )
Orange, N.J., May a
Dear Sir:;- ’ ™ (Of
We thought possibly you would be interested in the way
in which we ran an advertisement in a good many of the papers
concerning yourself and the Hally comet:
We believe the results of the advertising materialized
greater than Hally's comet, which certainly goes to make the
public feel that you are greater than the comet, very one feels
that you have done more to make light shine upon the earth and
heen more successful in that regard than the comet Was.
Yours truly, .
-THE ANDERSON CARRIAGE CO.
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687-689 Woodward Ave.
[ENCLOSURE]
AERCURY
‘Thomas A. Edison, with the arts of peace, has done
as: much to revolutionize the social conditions of - his
times; as did Napoleon in his day with the sinews of war. i aa
It rieeded‘a car like the Detroit, of national prestige, we /
of flawless: construction, to demonstrate convincingly to’ /
the world the revolutionary advantages of his last inven-
tion—the Edison: Battery. . }
The, original nickel-steel batteries tried out. seven ;
years ago are still giving service with undiminished ef: |
ficiency. i :
But the success of the Detroit with this improved yo
. From all ‘points of ‘the compass—from Shanghai,
Manila, Berlin—eager inquiries have;flowed into our fac-
ory- wing the’ world wide interests .created by. anne.
efforts. fet he 4 ook os PEGS cana tere :
- Right at_your doors you have the facilities of our fac- —
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Colle Mdress CdisourNuYothe”
Onange Mb June 2st 10.
Vy dear Anderson:
. The copy of a letter which you say
was sent out by the Manager of the Atlanta office of
a Lead battery company ioneiveds I wish to say that this
is a first class sample of the lengths that the. managers
of modern methods of business will go to in disparaging
a competitor. For mendacity and untruthfulness this
Letter may be considered the limit.
I will, for your benefit, analize their
‘statements to show you how dishonest it is, and what a
“silly attempt it is to think they can any longer make
dishonorable statements to the public without being
found out. —
"Anderson Brougham-=
Weight chassis 1685 pounds,
Weight with Edison battery "40 A-6 2400 *
This battery will drive this vehicle 132 miles on a
fair MacAdam road, with some hills and low grades
when the battery is fully charged,- and 110: miles over
the same road when rated capacity is taken out.”
Now take out the Edison and put in the Lead
battery of the same weight, s0 that the chassis: shall
not be overloaded. This wiil be 24. cells of M.V. 11
plates. This battery gives 6720 watts, which at 96
[THIS LETTER, LABELED AS "CONFIDENTIAL," WAS SENT ON
JUNE 22, 1910, SEE LETTERBOOK, LB-083, PAGES 216-220.]
W.C.A. a ee
watts per carriage mile just gives 70 miles instead
of 112 at my rating, and 132 full capacity.
Now what do these people do to make a wiowiee
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They put in 40 cells of ne battery in their figures
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knowing ‘iat the motor is only made for 24 Lead cells
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shoxénz.
- Byen if they could put it in and changed. the
motor so carriage could be controlled, pir they run
up against the weight. They understate their weight by
leaving’ out their heavy trays, put leave them in the
Edison and make other false statements as: to ‘the number
of Edison. ‘cells, by ‘making it 43 whereas based 40.are used. .
Now about the weight!-—
Raison weight with trays - 14 pounds,
40 MV 12° with trays e ae 14p0* ah
Now oe Anderson carriage is right for 40 "A6" metas : .
cells. “ach putting in 40 Lead cells there would be 2
676 pounds overload. This is like adding four extra evel ees
Persons dn addition to the two or three ore Seige
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[THIS LETTER, LABELED AS "CONFIDENTIAL," WAS SENT ON
JUNE 22, 1910. SEE LETTERBOOK, LB-083, PAGES 216-220.|
W.CoA. -=3-
; te Waele © Commnptancor
Their average efficiency, is about the same over the
whole. wire of the battery as the Edison gives over
several times the period of the life of the Lead battery.
er ~ A Lead battery commences to deteriorate
Efron we velive fa mechanically the moment you buy it. aaa
was tonsil make this statement themselves.
Cer Pyle
te 4 Whe a Witness Instructions Appended Heretot-
uss (en Gia ke
+ at the Under article on "Condensed Instruction for the Operation
‘ «at ya of Exide and Hycap-Exide Batteries."
coals * boa n As a battery is used, a deposit (sediment) collects
en 4" in ‘the bottom of the jars, due to the gradual wear ‘on .
X. “057 the. (Plates. Great care should be exercised that: the
be . wie wtf" sediment does not touch the bottom of the plates,
le Bebe” n
\ Ket thereby short. -edroudting them and materially | shortening
: thé life. of the battery. Before this cours, the cells
(eebee". joeor
4 lk of # ee shquild’ be cut apart and the sediment rémoved. It is
” yess eae impossible, to state definitely at what interyala.the
Asien’ Ms ae ‘sediment ‘should be. removed, 28 this depeng on the work
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JUNE 22, 1910, SEE LETTERBOOK, LB-083, PAGES 216-220.]
WGA. a
bottom one and three-quarters inches high, the sediment
should be cleaned out when it becomes one and one-half
ios ek, OY — so, if, after having been charged fifty
(Ware ws Rae 5there is found one-half inch of sediment, then,
at the same rate of deposit, cleaning should be done
» phelaore vo after the battery has received 100 additional charges,
or a total of 150; but on account of the more rapid rate
of deposit ‘with age, it 4s necessary to make an allowance,
- say 20 per-cent, which would mean Cleaning after a total
of 120 charges. If, after 60 charges, three-quarters
x “dich of sediment be found, then the battery should be
“Cleaned after a total of 100, less: 20 per-cent, ox
stent charges, Cenarty ‘he addition to the ofiginal firty).#
bases Freee tees nie
boy a privile eum
cane never Gonnied oS cannot be. ‘compared. . The. Lead battery is a running
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ome ot)
ie ve va Ue carriag The. ‘Badson battery will outlast several Lead
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{hs perwetier off sbaaysriony: and, ‘do the. stated mileage for many years;
weed wy Gh whereas, no ‘dependence whatever can be put on a Lead epehll,
ae ~<a co fame
es ps "battery when used in a sarin ph | AR apres
wart é t wnve Ea Avy rt st
aes be Lip amat ere So uncertain: are ther,” ‘that Tiffany & Ce, wil, an pan
a Martti ae rew. them ‘aut, and now Hearn} ‘’ Ge. the large deparseent Poe ;
he pe
"Hoganding the cost ef the two batteries. . They
whereas the EAdegon is an investment like the
vente
“people manage their business 1 Dereon than .
Yepartment stores, and this. fact ‘confirns. ae
[THIS LETTER, LABELED AS "CONFIDENTIAL," WAS SENT ON
JUNE 22, 1910. SEE LETTERBOOK, LB-083, PAGES 216-220.]
W.C.A. - 5 e
that I say. ;
I make it a rule not to attack competitors,
but this case is 80 outrageous that I really cannot
help it. |
Yeurs very truly,
Te W. C. Andersen, Esq., Pres.,
Anderson Carriage Company,
Detroit, Michigan.
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Condensed Instruction for the
Operation of "Exide and Hycap-
Exide Batteries
PART II
le SHESE (4) successive hydrom-
eter readings on each of these
cells should likewise show no
change. If they increase, showing a
rise in the gravity, the charge should
be continued until there is no further
rise for two (2) successive readings.
Note, however, that the charge
must be temporarily stopped if the
temperature of the battery gets
above 110°, and must not be started
again until it has dropped to 100°
or lower.
Keep the level of the fluid in the
cells one-half (14) inch above the
top of the plates. When it falls
below this point, add pure water,
never acid.
Do not charge the battery if, from
experience with the vehicle, it is
known that the next trip can be made
without charging.
On the other hand, never allow
the battery to stand entirely or al-
most entirely discharged. When in
this condition, it must be charged
immediately.
If a battery is not to be used for
several days, it should be fully
charged before standing. If it con-
tinues idle for some time, a small
charge should be given every two
weeks, using the low rate given on
name plate. Stop this charge when
the cells give off gas freely.
As a battery is used, a deposit
(sediment) collects in the bottom of
the jars, due to the gradual wear on
the plates. Great care should be
exercised that the sediment does
not touch the bottom of the plates,
thereby short-circuiting them and
materially shortening the life of the
battery. -Before this occurs, the cells
should be cut apart and the sediment
removed. It is impossible to state
definitely at what intervals the sedi-
ment should be removed, as this
depends on the work the battery
does and the care it receives.
To determine when to remove the
sediment, it isadvisable, after the bat-
tery has been charged fifty times,
to cut out for inspection one cell
from the center of the battery. Then,
from the height of the sediment,
estimate when it should be cleaned
out, making the estimate safe by a
sufficient margin to insure cleaning
before the sediment can possibly
reach the plates: The sediment
should be removed when it has accu-
mulated to one-quarter (14) inch
below the bottom of the plates. As
an example, suppose the jars have
tibs in the bottom one and three-
quarters (134) inches high, the sedi-
ment should be cleaned out when it
becomes one and -one-half (14)
inches deep; so, if, after having been
charged fifty times, there is found one-
half (14) inch of sediment, then, at
the same rate of deposit, cleaning
should be done after the battery has
received 100 additional charges, or a
total of 150; but on account of the
[ATTACHMENT]
a
more rapid rate
of deposit with
age, it is neces-
sary to make an
allowance, say
20 per cent,
which would
mean cleaning
after a total of
120 charges. If,
after fifty
charges, three-
quarters (34)
inch of sedi-
ment be found,
then the battery
should be
cleaned after a
total of 100, less
20 per cent, or
eighty charges,
(thirty in addi-
tion to the origi-
nal fifty).
On applica-
tion, the Com-
pany will advise
you where the
above inspection
can be most con-
veniently made,
and the battery,
cleaned when
necessary,
which can. (be horse-power in motors
determined only
_by an inspection, or, if one of our
own inspectors should be in your
vicinity at the time, we will arrange
to have him call upon you, inspect
your battery, give you a report on
its condition and give you general
information as to its care and
operation. For this service we make
no charge.
GO Bechstein, Ouwner.
Franklin Baylies, Architect
The New Franklin-Hudson Building, corner of Hudson and Franklin Streets,
This building will use Edison Service for 2,000 incandescent lamps and 350
In case, for any reason, it should
ever become necessary to take a cell
of the battery apart, the following
points should be carefully noted in
reassembling it:
The negative group (gray plates).
contains one more plate than the
positive group (brown plates).
Each positive plate is separated
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General Vehicle Company's Truck Used by a Large Manufacturing Company
from the adjoining negative plates
by a perforated rubber sheet and
a wood separator grooved on one
side. The rubber shects must al-
ways be placed next the positive
plates and the wood separators next
the negative plates with the plain
side next the negative plate.
Throughout the. battery, the posi-
tive group of each cell is connected
to the negative group of the adjoin-
ing cell, thus leaving a free positive
_ terminal at one end and a free nega-
a
tive terminal at the other end of each
tray, and of the complete battery. In
connecting a cell into the battery, this
point must be carefully observed.
Increasing Use of Electric
Autos
VEN to the casual observer, the
BE great number of electric com-
mercial vehicles on the streets
at the present time must be a convinc-
ing fact that they are the wagons of
the future. From a comparatively
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Petroit,Mich, jury 20,1810
A. J. Dyer,peq.,
Edison Storage pattery Co.,
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Dear Mr. Dyer;
I have your favor in regard to Grinnell Bros.
and beg to say, we were . not grouping in the dark in
making this complaint to you without knowing exactly where
we stood. It was not only my friend but Mr. Bacon had a asimi-
lar experience. It is an absolute fact that the Grinnells
are not in harmony with your instrument. To give you the name
of this particular party would in no way benefit the situation.
Take it from me that it is true. I would not mislead you if I
could on this proposition.
Yours truly, THE ANDERSON CARRIAGE CO,
WeC.A. LE Lise skced ore
By oe Srosident.
[FROM FRANK L. DYER]
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duly 22, 1910.
Hr. W. ©. Anderson,
Anderson Carriage Co.,
“Detroit, Mich.
Dear Sir:
Roplying to yours of the 20th inst., regard-
ing the attitudo Grinnell Bros., ara shoving toward the sale of
our machines, please accept my thanks for the vory great interest
you are showing in this matter, which interest should eortainly
rosult in bonefit to our business.
. _ I can well understand thet divulging the
names of your friends might result in some annoyance to them, and
I believe woe cun handle the situation with the facts you have
given us without going into details. |
Thanking you very much for tho information
provided, I remain
Yours very truly,
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Detroit, Mich, July 26, 1910,
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Thomas A. Edison, Esq., ph he
Edison Storage Battery Co., m “O Leth ue,
Orange, New Jerse, . ociel by oN OB, aod ed
My dear Mr. Edison, aN \ on see Gell ‘fel
Evidently you have not quite _unders oe my Ce ies
Lay b a)
tion. The apparatus that you sent me epactiicaos ns on wot
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what there is a large demand on. that Ta iq wan is sea aokd a
If there is anyway that you could nut some one
job. and produce a rectifier at a nominal price, it wo | double
our sales not only in large cities but in small cities. They
all have electric current and they can. buy it at a satisfactory
price, but after they buy a car and are asked to put up an
enormous price for an apparatus of this kind, it stops the
sale of many a car. .
I take it you are too busy on other matters to give
this your attention at this time. Hops you are not working
yourself too hard and that the New York deal is now going to
materialize so as to give us all some benefits.
I await with much interest the papers to be forwarded.
If we knew what papers had the advertisements in of course we
Would be glad to subscribe. I wrote Billy Bee on that subject
and take it he is taking care of it and that we will have’ the
papers sent us,
THE ANDERSON CARRIAGE Co.
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Awaiting a reply, we are,
Yours very truly,
Luhunror
WoC. A.
MaNacern.
WE
MAKERS OF y
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OUR ELECTRICS WILL RUN FARTHER ON . LARGEST PLANT OF ITS KIND
ONE CHARGE THAN ANY OTHER IN THE WORLD CAPITAL STOCK $1,200,000.
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AteencWearneney, DIRECT FACTORY BRANCH <
2236 BROADWAY
COR.BOT™ ST. NewYork City October 6, 1910.
Mr. John R. Anderson, Jr.,
Private Labatory,
of Edison Storase Battery Co.,
(Orange, He de
Dear Sir:-
Mr. FP. TF. Plate, Vice President of tie American
Express Company, 65 Broadway, ll. Y. C., would like some de~
tailed information about the Nt. Washington trip. He
called HeAD on the phone, but I was unable to give him
enoursh information to be of any value, They are watching
the Edison Battery, and mey be large users of it. Please
play this up in the very best way, and give the "DETNOIT
ELECTRIC" a boost.
Mr. Louis A. Voorhees, of 111 Carroll Place, New
Brunswick, N. J. has written us asking for details of the
Atlantic City, Philadelphia, Port Jervis run that was made
with a "DETROIT ELECTRIC" and Edison Storaze Battery, also
information of the run over the Ideal Tour.
If you will write these parties, it will be
greatly appreciated.
Very truly yours,
THs ANDERSON CARRIAGE CO.
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Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
The Edison Storage Battery Co. ehr Vv) AX
Orange, N. J. : wy, (eal oe rN
Hy dear Mr. Edison, we a
When I was last with you, you will recall hai A
I left with you a letter and copy of Mr. Weatherby's
letter, which was simply somewhat of a model that I wished
you to write, and you laid it on your desk and said you 49
would write him a letter that would be pleasing and answezx*,
the purpose. Therefore, if you have not done so, the yY %
sooner you can drop this into Mr. Weatherby's hands th ef ow
better. This man Harris is certainly. working his head 7 Ay
off, and has in view several sales. Therefore, just the
simplest little letter as coming from you, will simply
urge him to work his head off, as the saying is.
V
WAVERLEY. i” a
You also suggested that you would write me‘a pe
letter to the effect that you were not a user of a
Wavebley electric, or something that we could use to
counteract the advertisement that he is handing out to the
people. Every periodical in the country has a long story
about what you said of the controller and that you are a
user of two of his cars, etc. :
I should think a letter simply stating that a
number of years ago you purchased such a car and you have
added to and improved it, etc., would answer. We do
not want anything very severe; we simply would like
something to counteract this in some small degree if
possible,
Of course if you do not think it possible to
do it, we shall acquiesce in your thoughts.
Hoping that thie will find you well, and that
your developments are coming your way, we are,
W.C. A.
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ONE CHARGE THAN ANY OTHER IN THE WORLD.
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Subject; Your “Le
You will pardon us for hurrying you on
this proposition, but it is’ really a serious one as we
see it. To iltustrate: We have under construction a third
station in this city in the alternating current district,
The garage gas a capacity of 40 cars+ To equip this new
with the present apparatus, the investment totals not less
than $3500.00, and it not only applies to this garage but
to several others that are now being built in other cities
under our supervision and advisement.
My dear Mr. Edison:-
It is our plan first in making an agency,
to get them interested in an exclusive électric garage, and
what stops many from going into the proposition is this
nasty investment for the equipment changing the alternating
current. Now, if your rheostate are going to come forward
and are a success, it would make an entire change in this
proposition, and it would be the most helpful thing that
we can imagine for the electric car, and would aid us in
getting more agents to handle our car, as the investment would
cut down considerably more than one-half. This would aid us
in getting a little more interest in the electric car.
Now, I appreciate that it is hurrying matters
to urge you for a definite statement on this matter, but I want
you to write me by return mail advice in the matter, Shall we
go on and buy this expensive equipment, or can we afford to wait,
and in waiting is it a sure thing that you will have the equip-
ment for us? That is the point, you will note, we want settl-
ed if possible,
: Yours very truly,
W. OG. A. 4
A REQULAR STOCK CAR Move. “A” “DETROIT ELECTRIC," RAN FROM DETROIT TO ATLANTIC CiTy (1060 MILES) WITHOUT A BROKEN
PART AND ENTIRELY ON ITS OWN POWER, AVERAGE DISTANCE ON A SINGLE CHARGE 84 MILES, THE ROADS WERE VERY MUDDY
OWING TO RAIN, AND THE GAR CARRIED TWO PERSONS AND THEIR BAGGAGE. THIS 18 THE WORLD'S BEST RECORD.
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Dear Sirie
satan eis letter gf the 23rd, enclosing
us the copy of tn. advertisement /which you intend to
run in the Chicago, “Deriverand! Kansas City daily papers,
would say that we ‘hear$!ly;appréciate the benefit that
this ad would be to “the-Edisor Storage Battery cause.
There are only a few suggestions that we
would make in the wording of the ad; for instance:
in the first paragraph where you use the word "cheap"
lead battery. We believe the ad would be stronger if
you left the word "cheap" out of it, as then it would
not be referring to anything but a lead battery, and
that is exactly what you are driving at, whether it
is cheap or expensive. The lead battery people might
very reasonably say that they did not make a cheap
lead battery, but made the best there was, and for this
reason your advertisement had no bearing on their producte
The expression "half the mileage" might be
changed to read "a great deal less mileage", because
we often sell an Hdison Battery to people who do not
get twice the mileage that they have known lead batteries
to furnish.
There are other features that you could put
in the ad which could be of a positive nature, rather
than state the exact comparison between what an Edison
Battery will give on a mileage basis and a lead batterye
In the next paragraph you might make it read
stronger by substituting the word "first" cost instead
of "total" cost, and inserting the word "first" before
the word cost, making it read about: "is first cost:
the only thing?" eto.
THE ANDERSON CARRIAGE CO, PAGE 2 oonte «= Nove 26, 1910.
Mr. W. G. Bee,
The strongest feature of the Edison Battery
is the saving of the upekeep of the car from the
battery standpointe
In the paragraph where you refer to the
seven years that Mr. Edison has been working on the
battery, it might be well to write this to show that
these seven years were spent on a battery that did
not have lead as part of its composition. It is only
by inference in the closing remarks of that paragraph
that a person who does not know what an Edison Battery
is made of, would catch the idea that it did not have
any lead in ite F
The writer's experience is that there is
a great amount of ignoranceamongstthe public to-day
as to what is in an Edison Battery, and for that
reason, if this advertisement were illustrated with
some of the plates of an Edison Battery with the
expression to the effect that no lead to deteriorate
or sulphate were used in its construction, it would
possibly show the situation up stronger.
Yours very truly,
CEP THE ANDERSON CARRIAGE CO.
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1910. Automobile - Lansden Company (D-10-03)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
business of the Lansden Co., a manufacturer of electric wagons in which
Edison possessed a controlling interest. Included is an audit report prepared
by the accounting firm of Lybrand, Ross Bros. & Montgomery. Also included
are memoranda and financial statements and a summary of orders completed
and received. In addition there are numerous documents pertaining to the
promotion of Lansden vehicles. At the end of the folder is an undated draft in
Edison's hand of a promotional article regarding the use of the Edison storage
battery in Lansden wagons. Among the correspondents are Frank L. Dyer,
president of the National Phonograph Co. and vice president of the Edison
Storage Battery Co.; Leonard C. McChesney, head of the Advertising
Department; and John M. Lansden, Jr., and other officials of the Lansden Co.
Approximately 70 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected consist of memoranda, letters of transmittal, and financial
statements that duplicate information in selected material.
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The Lansden Company
Aub PASSENGHE AEAV ICE cH Electric Wagons
EDISON STORAGE BATTERY EQUIPMENT
54 & 56 Lackawanna Avenue
Newark, N. J. January 10, 1910.
RECORD OF ORDERS RECEIVED, BILLS RECEIVED, AMOUNTS BILLED & BANK BALANCE,
ORDERS RECEIVED: - None
BILLS RECEIVED: ~ $1935.39 ot
AMOUNTS BILLED:— $3663.00 sek ¢
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BANK BALANCE: $2422.10 Ge C 3 nk
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THE LANSDEN COMPANY, NEWARK, N. J. .
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Unfilled Orders and Contracts
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SUMMARY OF VARIOUS ITENS AS SHOWN ON THE FINAYCTAL AND OPERATING
STATEMENT FOR MONTH ENDING DECEMBER 3lst, 1909.
COMPANY'S MACHINES
One Electrette
One Delivery Wagon
COMPLETE MACHINES
One Electrette 2 Complete
One 4~wheeled Baggage Truck
One Taxicab
One Fanel Wagon (Show)
One Type 46 Express Wagon (Show) incomplete
One Standard Express Wagon Body
Three Type 356-A Exp. Wagon Bodies © $147.88
Two Type 36-H Side Rack Bodies & $192.84
One Type 46-G Body
Two Type 46-A Express Bodies @ $187.83-
One Taxicab Body
One Type 36 Chassis (Grey Wagon)
One E. V. Express Wauon
One Type 56 Platform Body for testing (grey)
One E, V. Chassis from Macy
One Type -3 wheeled Truck
One Type 86-A Ad. Express Wagon
One Type 167-E Wagon No. 364 (Wagner)
PLANT
Machinery
Instruments and Tools
Furniture and Fixtures
Patterns, Templates and Dies
Drawings and Designs
ACCRUED EXPENSE
Wages due Pay Roll
Wages due flight Watchman
Wages due Sotre Keeper
1860.00
1000.00 2850.00
1459.42
1124.56
2766.77
1480.00
1000.00
450.00
443.64
385.68
155.14
375.65
582.00
788.68
300.00.
121.00
200.00
1106.21
1824.89 |
1470.00 " 16033.64
3198.74
2778.27
3151.91
2219.97
8528.26 19877.15
812.00
12.00
34.60 858.60
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ORDERS IN PROCESS #OR MONTH ENDING DECEMBER 351, 1909,
2168 1756.63
2387 1676.12
2530 1249.46
2534 260.71
2542 1077.21
2546 85.00
2597 3123.71
2601 714.32
2602 2124.24
2755 108.13
2766 6.21
2813 46.16
R814 6.47
2821 B32
2833 48.68
2834 39.52
2887 20.40
2852 29,64
2854 17.20
2861 1067.90
2862 452.78
2866 7.62
2869 ald
2870 015
2871 5.61
2877 29.11
2880 18.59
2888 68
2889 1306.56
2890 230.26
2891 15.00
2892 99.40
2896 30,39
2906 725.29
2907 368.08
2908 565.56
2909 _ 1y59672
2910 ' 891.24
2911 17.02
2919 6.41
2922 29.64
2923 1.68
2925 13.50
2926 35.65
2927 24.63
2932 12.20
2935 10.92
2936 van 85 250
$20388.26
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SUMMARY OF ACCOUNTS PAYAELE AS OF DECEHBRR 3let, 1909.
Ame Wood working live do.
Ae & Is Me Anderson Mee. Coe
Lathrop Andoxson
Ambcewg File 8 Indox Go.
Ame Rollor Booring: 54 Whol Co.
Achviillo Bataille & Go.
Balloy & Alling
Banista: & Pollard Co.
The Barlov Pamdry Go.
Baldvin Ohain & MPE. Go.
BockvitheChandlor Co,
de Ge Baitl
Ae Hall Borvy
Betton & Bbsen
Briscoe HLS. Goes
The BLllingy & Srencar Coe
Brown Lipe Gear Oo-.
dno, Boylo & Coe, Ina.
Bdvard V. Brokay & Broe
Wane He. Buehler
Carolina Pine Products Co.
Cary Springs Yorks.
Cartay Wnlto Load Go,
fac Cincinnati Ball Crank Go.
fhe We tf. Cranc Cawiiage Hdwoe Co,
Centar Motor Wo.
Jane Ae Goo & Co.
Gontinon:al Pibro Go.
Ae GO, Gourtor & do.
Ce. Gowlos & Go.
Potor Cooper's Gluo Facto ry
The Crosby Co.
De Forge: Belting Coe
De Voursnoy BroBe
Re Ee Diets co.
Gustav A. Dingolar
' Diamonl Rubiier Go,
Drivere-Harriag VWiee Go.
Thomas A. Fdi son
Edison' Phonograyh Works
The Electro Dynamic doe
Tio Hlesctric Storase Battory Co.
J03. F. Hherimrd & Son Ince
Edi ton Storage Batiovy Co,
Willian H. Edvards
Bieec., Nalntenance & Rapnaiv do.
Enapibee Auto Supply Co.
Tn0 English & Mervaisk Co.
Tne Envlish & Movsick Lamp & Fdary. do.
Estate of Willian Havkins
The Fatrbanks Go.
Faltouto Ivon & Stocl co.
Poter A. Pransa & Co.
Fivestone Tire & Rubber do.
Gonoral El eotric doe
THO PeHe Gill & Sons Porge & Meche Vorkoe
Ge Ae Goldsmith.
Tuc Goodycar Tlro & Rubbor Co.
Croebo-Me Govern doe
Gorton & Lidgerwood Co.
Hardingo Brotuerse
Edmund #.. Heath & Son
Geargo A Hebb.
Goorge Hoaly
Holler Brotinrs Co.
Tho Horseless Agoe
Tno Fe We. Hortamann Co.
T. P. Howoll & Go.
Ue fT. Hungerford Brass & Coppor (oe
Hyatt Rollor Boaring 00-6
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SUMMARY OF ACCOUNTS PAYABLM AS OF DROEKBER
Zlst, 19096
Brt Fude -- - = 1784S 6 75
Jo Je Hockenjos Coe
Honvy FP, Howard
Intornational Time Resordint; Go.
He Ae Jacgar
Phineas Jonos & GO6«
Vine Ae Jonos & Son
Koewffol & Esser Co.
Re B. Loonard
Tie Light MP&e & Faye Co.
The Lockwood Goes
Ludlow & Squier
Lybrand, Ross Bros. & Montgomery
E. Re. HMorvill Spring Coe,
HMassaciusetts Cnomical Co.
Mockor Foundry Coe
Lilllow Hloctric Goe
Murphy Varn ci 06
Tne National Lock Wags hoy Co,
Newark Goar Guiting Hao itine Coe
Tno New Devertiure MPS. COs
Tne Hey York Poelephono Co.
The National Saw Co.
Newark Dosk Co,
Howark Glass Coe
New York Transportation Coe
Tio Poitasote Cos
Gnose Re Partdvidge
Patriarche & Bell
Hatbhiag Plun |
Tne Post & Lester Coe
P, Se GC. or Ne. de
We Potorcon
Pratt & Whitney Co. -
Tho Retlay Salo: Go.
Riverside Stoel Castin. Co.
Roo & Gonover
Tne Roberts Conl Co.
Re Be Rodcigvws,
Searls NPg. Co.
De. FP. Sogolke
Sler-—Bath Co.
Singoa Sewing Machine Co.
Ae Se Shomvood
Standaz) O41 Co.
Thomas A. Sandfard Co.
Strieby & Foote Co.
Spring Porci CoO.
Gno Sahtvarg Wheel Coe
Tne Soovilia & Pook Co.
Cornoliussten Rick
Thormoid Rubboy Company e
20tn Century Auto Touring Coe
Irving Underhill
Ue Se Mo Adam:ito Motal Co.’
The Veoder Mf&e GOs
Oo Te VOGLlLar & Sone
Tuo Westbury Lemp Co. ;
Weston Hleotric Instrument Joe.
Ge Ae VWilloy Co.
The Whitney MP&e Cos
Frank Ase Whitten
Ward Loonard Electric do.
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SUL ARY OFNACGOUN.... RAGHLVABLE AS OF DECHUBE:. Jjlat, 1909»
Adans Expresc Go. & 1930.90
Adars Voniole Co. 13.50
Aitken Son & Co. 2.65
Central Smelting Works 174-,.02
Ghamberlain Auto Co. Hed
Dockor Hlootrisal Mfr. Co. 5.20
Thowas Ae Edison 253 661
Rdinon Phonograph vVorks 183.66
Faivfield Dairy Co. 1-79 90
Javes P, Fesnsy 099
Janes A.» Hoarn & Son. 101689.
Ae G@. Hydo & Sons 2625
Job Re Kinsey é° L
Lidgerwood MPa. Go. 50
Re He Macy & CO- "120053
Jot, de iandary : Lietd:
Hotropolitan Opava do. 2673 «10 -
John Hilliken 14.28.
FP. J. Newcomb Mfg. Co. Bpate:
Natinn Mtge Coe: . deo
Nev York Tolepnone Co. ; 10299
Tho Now York Edison Go. 355.
New York Hospital 275 10355:
Mortimer Norden 54,60
Now York Transpo vtation Co. 15 200
Pacific Improvement ‘Go. 152098
Ee He Pike & Broa 3408
MN. ¥. & Springfield Desap (T. SHEA) 2520.39
Je le Streat . 5785
Springfield Waste Coe 5.50 -
Oscar Taras 6542:
20th Century Auto Touring Co. 20,00
Je We Brunbridge (Hotel St. Georga) 435°
Ue Se Expitoss Coe 58 ef5:
We Fe & COs Bxproms 6900400
Wychoti-Church & Partdvige 206250
Coorge Enrot ; 1,20
United Blectric Go. of Ne J. 25 000
” $2285 8690
[FROM FRANK L. DYER]
Momorendum of F. L. D. for discussion with Mr. Edison.
Mr. Hansen of the Gencrel Vehicle Company called to see
mo with W. G. Bee on Friday afternoon, January 21st. He
first said that personally he had no objection to the Edison
battery but believed that it had alroady won out, at least
in some respects. I seid that we mew that representatives of
the Electric Vehicle Company had made more or less disparaging
remarks regarding the Edison battery and had called attention
to the fact that it was practically a new thing, that it had
not been sufficiently tried out and that its efficiency and
durebility were not gueranteed. He replied that if these
statements were made they must have been made by their sales-
men, ond that they had very little control over what the
salesmen seid. He asked me if we wented the Electric Vehicle
Company to use Edison batteries and I said that of course we
did. He then said that they would be willing to enlarge
their battery boxes so that the vehicles of the Electric Vehicle
Company could take the Edison storage battery provided we made
some concession to thom. I asked him what concession he
wanted. He said that the Lensdch Wore talcing edventege of the
publicity and advertising of the Electric Vehicle Company and
were selling vehicles at a lower price then the Electric Vehicle
Company could afford to sell them for. I asked him if it was
his idea that we should raise the price on the vehicles end
he said it was, although he did not want us to raise the
price so that the vehicle itself without the battery would
be the same as theirs. According to his statements, the ve-
hicles of the Electric Vehicle Company are better then the
Tansden and show a superior result in practice. I told him
(2)
that we would not change the price but that we did expect to
go into the business more extensively and do some advertising
_end general publicity and therefore that his objection would be
largely taken care of. I said the time would come when they
would have to use Edison batteries and that it would be better
for them to meke provision for them now instead of being forced
to make provision for them later. He then asked if we would
be willing to sell out the Lansden Company, and I said that
possibly later on we might do so, although at the present
time we could not do so on account of contracts. I told him
I would think over the matter and that later on I might have
some proposition to mateo to him.
1/21/10. FP. L. D.
PorsonoL Oronge, I. d., Jan. a1,1610.
Mr. dJobn ii. Lonsden, Jr.,
.@he Lensden Company,
Newark, bi. d.
Dome Saxe:
I bog to confirm the suggestion made lest might, ot -
De. Wdicon's request, thet in ordor thet the business of the
Bonscnn Compeny mv be cerricd on as economically nc pos:cible,
ond o satiofaetory showine vwltinvocly mede, all omacrimontal
work be discontinued ond thot tho work of the company bo
limited to the production of stock: mechines. Loter on when
the compony gots in better chore, wo my bo in o nonition to
teke un oxnorinontel Worl.
Rogerding tho suggestion made by you ond Ti. Whitten
thet the conpony chovld trke up a limited line of ndvortising,
Iwill discuss this netter with te. Edison a: coon ap possible
t
ond lot you Imow whet he deeides to do. Yersonally I think
tho ougcestiongis a. vory good one, snd fron whet he hes said
tO mo I believo ho will epprove of it.
' Yours vory trely,
PRD/ Lu t -Brosidont.
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GO. ‘Glue. “enee me wav hoes bean done with this mat-
for om how soon you tlyint: the ectrlogme esn be prevsred.
po cble te give you cs lot
Me. “MeChesnoey ¢
Yours very truly,
FuD/ TW ‘ Yrosident.
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The Lansden Company
VARIOUS TYPES YOR COMMRRCI - |
AND PASSENGER SERVICH, pee Electric Wayans
EDISON STORAGE BATTERY RQUIPMENT
54 & 56 Lackawanna Avenue
Newark, N. J. Feb. 7th, 1910.
Mr. F. Le. Dyer,
Edison Phonograph Works,
Orange, N. d.
Dear Sir:~
Replying to your favor of the 4th inst., would say,
that we have been working on the hansden Oo. catalog for some
time.
We have in hand now practically: all the written matter
requtred but we are not satisfied with its present form. We
are engaged in rewriting now and should think this part of tie
work mignt be completed inside of two weeks.
We have a sonsiderable number of cuts already finished
and are engaged in getting other photographs inade.
It was our intention to have gotten the catalog out
in January but we hald back in order to see what sort of a
publication the Storage Battery Company was going to issue,
as we did not wish to duplicate their matter in any way.
You may be sure that this matter is receiving our
best attention.
a pce
Very truly yours, ; je
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The Lansden conf I oe
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Orange, ¥. d., Fob. 8, 1920.
lire FP. A. Whitten,
Mho Lensden Company,
Mewark, UU. d.
Yours oF tho 7th inst. has been rocoived on the subject
of the catnlogue for the Lancden Conpanyy. Please keep right
after this and get oub the cotalogue as somn as possible, be-
eause iwent to heve the metter entirely finished before Ur.
Ndison roturns.
As coon as you got the thing written up you might tale
it up with liv. NeChesaney, wrose ideas on these subjects ero gon-
erally very good. If necessary I ern then consider it before it
Linelly goes to pross.
Yours very truly,
PLD/ IW President.
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: Telephone 840 Branch Brook
The Lansden Company
VARIOUS TYPES VOR COMMERCIAL €lertrirc Wagons
AND PASSENGER SERVICE, THE
z ‘ONAGE UATTRRY RQUIPMENT
par ae i 54 & 56 Lackawanna Avenue
, + Newark, N. J. Feb. 26th, 1910.
Mr. Frank L. Dyer,
c/o Edison Phono. Wks.,
W. Orange, N. d.
Dear Sirs-
We received advertising estimate from the
Wagner & Fields Company some days ago, but have not sub-
mitted it, as we Learned from Mr. Me Chesney that he had
not yet gotten anything from Colkins & Holden.
Mr. Mc Chesney has today informed us, however,
that he has received this proposition and we are therefor
writing to inauire if it will be possible for Mr. Lansden
and I to have an interview with you on Monday next at such
time as may best suit your convenience, in order to lay
this matter before you.
Not having been able to reach you by 'phone,
we are weiting, but hope that you will telephone us as
soon as possible as to what time we may see you so that
arrangements may be made in order not to conflict with other
engagements
ai ea
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{ er e The Lansden Coe, o¢ '
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Ue Js, Pob. 38, lors.
ure Thomes 2. Edison,
Port iyers, Florida.
Dear ir. Edison:
It scoms protty tough to nnkko Ing suggestions ro-
gerding tho Lancden Cormany by reason of which OXponses will be
inervesed, especially in viow of the rottcan showing this month,
whon not a single ordor was obboinod. jliot only this, but
Bencden tolls me thet they did not roeeive 2 single incuiry
rogording vehicles nor 2 ingle request for printod mother.
Toam sure that so fur as thoixr cbilitios eo they are doing e121
0
thot they en-to got riders, because when I see then they ell,
fron Lansdnar dom, secon to be nyerchensive and herreassod, and
I belicvo thoy are really trying thoir best. the situation, however,
is thet whon orders come they are in relativoly large smounts but
aro very infrequent cnd they arc obtained only citer herd fighting oné
much delay.
, ii. Hanson has resigned from the General Vohicle Co.
end I havo. scon him a numbor of tines, nd ho has told me sono of
his ovm oxporionces end the difPicultios in gotting orderg. He
was tolling ebout he possibility of his taking over tho Lansdon
Company, putting some eddit: onal capital into it ond trying to
dovelop the proposition, but his idea vas to have sone sort of an
exclusive arrangement for a limited period for the “discon battery.
iain aaa ad ge rg Sh SE OR tues
@, 4. Rdison. (2) 2/ac/20.
I told hin to put his vro osition an writing end thet I would cub-
mit at to you.
. Rogercding the Tensdon Company, it seems to me that what
Wo sre up egelinst is lock of public:ty. fhe vercontage of ovders
obtained from prospeete is vory Lov, cond it is obviously neccosary
thet +
20 Vehicles should be brourtrs to the attention of muny more
Ne!
prosmoective purchasers. fhe other vehicle peorle erc advertising
eulte oxtonsively, and Y th
nik wea should. By dolag some novspeaper
advertising ond onphasising the Peet thet tho Maison battory if
used beliove that we would hear Pron a very large number of
people who may have bean vutting off using cleetric vehicles
until the Edison battery caue and that we would :1s0 hoor trou
other poople who would be interosted becouse of the bettory.
Such persone would be in adgition to prosnects vho night bo intber-~
ested in tho olooteie voliicle prenosition alone. Aggmuning this
Wo would teke up on advertising campaign involving on oxponditure
of about 431,000 nor nonth, I heave obteine. tyo propositions, one
from Calkins & Holdon and ono from tho Wognor-Fiold Co., which I
snd you under separate cover.
Calkins & Holdon pronogo going into the New York om Lor
throo months, once a wook, with odvortisoments tives colwms wide
by twolve inches doop. With this publicity they would continue
for nino months on oxpensive eircularizing compaign, Which, of
courso, could bo mado very comprohonoivo at en exponse oF 1,000
per month. Thoy ovidontly figuro thot by advertising in tho
Hew York sun for threo months, circular mettor would be probably
acoopted with intorogst by buoinerss mon.
ir. 2. . Bdison. (3) 2/28/10.
Sho Wagnor-Field Company pronvose a more comprohonsive
phen AMP coing into the Now Youle Timos, the Now York Sun end the
Brooklyn Regie, with edvortisencents two colume wide ond about
throo and ono-leif inches deap, end wlso in the Commoreicl Volicle
and tho Mowor Wagon one page cach month, and fLinelly threo nages
ner year in tho Hloctrien] Vorld, Carriage Dealors Journel end
The Carriage tonthly.
It sooms to we thet the proposition of the Vopner-Piold
Conpeny ia much more sensible end that by Serrying it out with gocd
displey motter we ought te bo eble to work vp &® reasone.le cmhount
or publicity. £ hedicve thet now is the timo to do tixis, becouse
the publie herve beck hoaring Lor yoors abows iho Buigson battery,
and with oll the reading mother thet we have been heving recontly
on tha bettory cay I think that there would be many prosnoative
purchesers who vould ot lLoeat be muePiciontly intorcsted to mate
incuiriog. If thin is not done I velieve she dovelovmant of the
Irnsden Comvany will be discouragingLy slow. Myen if you conten.
plate polling out ho Lansdon Company, thio advertising would
probebly vopay itself in tho added valuo to the businoss.
I wich you would think over those quostions snd lot mo
have your viota.
Yours ‘vory truly,
PLD/ I
REFER TO THIN NUMBER FRANK L. DYER,
IN aoe REPLY MEMORANDUM ORANGE, N. a
ALTO
3/3/10.
Mr. Holden:
At the present time the principal office of the
Lansden Company is in the Laboratory Building, and Mr. Harry fF.
Miller is the person named Upon whom service shall be made. For
business reasons it may be desirable to have the head office changed
to Newark and Mr. John M. Lansden designated as the person upon whom
Service shall be made.
I wish you would prepare the necessary papers to have
this change put into effect, and after they ‘are drawn up, I oan
then consider definitely whether or not to put ¢ through. ae
ty oe
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MEMORANDUM
S kr. iioChosney: 3/1A4/lo.
5 I hand you horowith two memorandums from lr. Péicon
on tho Subject of Lensden advertising, snd I have written hin
to-day that ve have decided to go choad with tho plen proposed by
Wagner & Plelds, limiting our advertising to nevwepeporsgin nOoW
York City ond Brooklyn and to one or tro trade papers, the whole
to cost not more than 31,000. per month. I wish you vould c
right aheed with the deteiits of the vlan in concwltation with
ir. Lensden cond Mr- Whitton, kooping mo advised is to progross.
Pop/ In Po hed. :
Ene-
tre,
we o Orange, U. J., Merch 14, 1920.
ily. Thomas 2. Eeison,
Fort Myers, Plaride.
Deer on Edison:
Your two memorandums on the subject of the Lensden
Comp.ny heave been rocoivad. I havo gone into tho matter ey;cin
with Lar. MeChesnoy and ir. Eancden, ound wo believe that we should
adopt the proposition submitted by Messrs. Wegner & PFiclds,
spenging about (31,000 por month ond limiting tho advertising to
iow Yorks and Brooklyn papers with the addition of one or tyvo trade
papers.
Lansden always has on hend one or more wagons for. domon-
stroting, clthough he seys thet prosnective customers seldom ro-
quire domonstrationg te bo madc.. this annerently moans thet the
poople Lansdon has 90 fer been in tovch Sotiga heve had sono on
porionce with olectric wagons cond Imow whet to expect from them;
but if our cdvertising is effective end results in incuirics, thero
would no doubt be many concerns who have had ebsolutely no ex-
perience with motor vohiclos and who msy be very gGled to havo a
dononstration made. This is undoubtedly tho right idea, because
lir. Manson told me thet sometimes the Eloctric Vehicle Compeny
went so far as to actuclly build special wagons end put them in
on @ month's trial, with the right to return thon if unsatisfac-
tory.
Ordors from James A. Hearn wore roceived a few drys ago
f. %. Edison. (2) 3/14/10.
amounting to (321,000, comprising, as I remombor, two S-ton trucks
and about 15 chessos, exclusive of bodios, Ravag and battorien.
Hoarn intonds to uso 01d bo&ics Lor thoso chasses and to omploy
old load battories in thom wtil thoy are worn out and thon to got
Edison br-ttoriop.
Yours very truly,
yuD/Ive
ete he amet ne ene inna
orm No, 260. ,
/ THE WESTERN UNION TELEGRAPH COMPAIY.,
SIN AMERICA. CABLE SERVICE TO ALL THE WORLD.
ROBERT C. CLOWRY, President and General Manager. Sane
24,000 OFFICE
Check
Recelver’s No. Time Filed
4
(Wight Letter)
SE ND the following message subject to the terms
& hereof, which are hereby agreed to. :
ieee fe April 1, 1920.
‘Thomas A. Edison,
Port Myers, Florida.
Steinway sold all horse vehicles and in. markot for ten trucks.
General Vehicle Company offer to guarantee battories for throe
years. Steinway probably accept offer unless we make similar
guerantoe. Do you object Lansden Company guarantooing
our batteries three years? Even if we did not guarantee we would |
make good. if batteries failed within three years. Guarantee
would be based on observance of best treatmont. Think we should
-do this. Do you approve? .
( Teetan. ek eee oe :
Chg. Lansden Co. ar, ;
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THE WESTERN UNION TELEGRAPH COMPANY.
24,000 OFFICES IN AMERICA. GABLE SERVICE TO ALL THE WORLD.
OO This Company TRANSMITS and DELIVERS messages only on conditions Umiting its Hability, which havo been assented to by thesendor of the follow: in ge mi
Etre r
my can be Meo ate last only by repeating non, bayou back to tho sending station for com) pariso nn. and the Company willnot hold itself Hable for errors or d. lelays
Is not presanted In writing within sixty days
p lf J (
Orenge, U. J., April 5, 1920.
J. ii. Lensden, Jr., Esa.,
She Lansden Comrany, |
Nowark, UW. J.
The bearer, wr. Richard 2. Dyer, is my nenhew end is the
young mon I spoke to you bow some time apo who wents to start
in ana acquire & busines: exporlonee. . You sada thet you had
an opening for him, and I will be much obliged if you will teke
him on and give him something te do. i leave the matter of
and duties entirely to you.
Yours very truly,
‘ BLD/ Ivy
1 soe etetnataaind hi: be ,
Orango, UW. J., April 12, 1910.
Whitten,
The Lensden Company,
54 Lackawenna Ave. , Newark, NH. gd.
Dear Cir:
Yours of the Oth inst. hes boen recoived with onclosed
guarantee Which you propose to make on the Edison battery for
Steinway & Song. I have gone over this ouarenteo vith itr. Holland
and we have made a number of changes, as shown in lead pencil.
As thus changed, I have approved the cuarantec. I think these
changes will vo anite clear to you end will not in ony way affect
the effectiveness of tho guarantoe.
_ It is not cloar »het the guarantee means by the oxpres-
Bion "Full. working capacity as rated". It might mean that we
guarantee the battery to drive tho vohicle the rated distance
por charge and it might mean thet wo guarantee the t:.ttery to
Give tho rating adopted by the Storago Battory Company. It is
just as well, hovever, that this indefinitonessa should exist,
because it gives us the opportunity of adopting cithor intorpre-
tation.
I slso bog to roturn herovith tho copy Of the Steinway
contract.
Yours vory truly,
BLD/rwy
SS ee a oe t \
[FROM ISAAC W. WALKER]
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Memo.
t I called up Mr. Whitten of the Lansdnn Company this
- morning and asked when the catalogue would be finished. He said
he would heve it ready to submit to the printers in a few days
80 thet they could prepare a dummy, after which it would take
about three or four weeks to print up the catalogue. We said
the deley was caused by the fect that they had to got new motors
to be operated by the new storage battery due to the lover voltage,
and that these motors necessarily had to be testod out and new
ratings obtained with their use.
4/19/10. I. W. W.
THE LANSDUN COMPANY
Report upon Examination of Accounts
for the period Ist December, to 28th February, 1910,
SE
LYBRAND, ROSS BROS. & MONTGOMERY
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS
NEW YORK a PITTSBURGH ’ PHILADELPHIA
165 BROADWAY : UNION BANK BUILDING _ LAND TITLE BUILDING
CHICAGO
FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING
Lil CON a. Fiovs Bros. thon “you al? °F
cz Za t
SES oF ELIS ACCOR NI ANTS PHILADELPHIA LAND TITLE BUILDING
NEW YORK 16% BROADWAY
PITTSBURGH UNION BANK BUILOING
WILLIAM M. LYBRAND = 7. EOWARD ROSS
AQAM A.ROSS. RODERT H.MONTGOMERY CHICAGO FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILOING
JOSEPH M.PUGH
New York, 25th April, 1910,
Mr. Thomas A, Fdigon,
Orange, New Jersey.
Dear Sir:
We submit herewith our report on the
audit of the accounts of the
LANSDEN COMPANY
for the three months ended 28th February, 1910,
While the locs for the last three months has been
$4,670.30, this is a very material reduction from the loss
of the preceding three months which was $10,430.77,
The decrease in loss arises from the fact that the
volume of business has about doubled, while the fixed charges
and other general expenses have remained substantially the
Same as for the preceding period,
The usual statements are annexed showing the Orders in
Process and the Completed Machines. It is doubtless under-
stood that the earlier numbers of the orders in process include
costs of work which was largely experimental. As these
orders are finelly disposed of there will necessarily be some
loss in the process, but this loss will be absorbed in the
current accounts from month to month,
A statement is annexed showing the unfilled erders as
of 31st March, 1910, which aggregate $65,312.50,
Among the assets appears the cost up to 28th of February
of improvements at 233 and 235 High Street, This account
has been added to since, but it is proposed that ultimately it
shall all be absorbed in the cunrertt operating by charging off
apart of it from month to month,
Very truly yours,
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Comparative BALANCE SHEETS, 30th November, 1909 and 28th MFebruary,191o.
ASSET 8:
19210
28th Feby
Plan t:
Machinery . 1. 2. «© «© © © © © «@ 8 & 5,806.11
Wools, Jigs, &c. . .« « «© «© «© «© «© « 3,096.11
Office Furniture, &c. . . .« « © « -¢ 3,403, 12
Patterns, Yemplates, Dies, &c. ., . . . 2,248.62
Drawings, Blue.Prints, &. . . . 2. . 8,545.12
23,089.08
Gompleted Machines . . 2. 2. + 5 «© © 15,516.70
Orders in Process . . . . «© 6 «© «© + 25, 258,39
Materinls, Supplies and Finished Parts . . 25,212.61
Accounts Receivable Bs we Abs abr ue GR ee 31,132,13
Csaoecn, fe G8 eo ee “ae ee. cde Ae ek 1,492.79
Improvement Account 233 - 235 High St. . . 926,41
Prepaid Wxpensep . . 6 4 + ew ee 313.55
Goon Waid. Gar Bs ce Ged Mow ww ae ___ 3,000, 00
Total Assets $125,942.66
LIABILITING:
Notes and Accounts Payable . . . . oo. . $36,960.60
Accrued Wages, &C. . 6 6 ele le ls 1,370.64
Louns from .A,Edison and Natlonal Phonograph Co. 93,500.00
otal Liabilities $141, 831.14
xcess of Liabilities $ 5,889.48
CAPITAL STOCK and SURPLUS:
Capital Stock Ba Joa was ees. Ca - ae TWA Gy “a a $30,000,00
Deficit . . . 2... a ae 35, 889, 48
$ 5,889.48
§ 3,198.74
2,713.64
2,984.01
2,210, 42
8, 524.30
19,631,11
20,022.59
22,148.63
23,928, 37
9,936.04
1,176.91
456.99
3,000.00
$100, 300,64
$20,014. 27
505.55
81,000.00
$101, 529, 82
$ 1,219.18
$30, 000.00
31, 219,18
$ 1,219.18
rami SA es
PRODUCTION ACCOUNT
3 Months to
Credits:
Valuation put on Finished Parts produced ~- . & 1,960.42
H * Completed Hachines produced 40,758.29
Increase in Orders in Process . . . . « « 3,109.76
$45, 828, 46
Debits:
Cost of iiaterial , including batteries - « © $25,540.27
" “Direct Labor . . 2. .« 5 © 6 2 8,953.32
Part of kxpenses added to costs approximately 50%
of direct lebvor and material after cx-
cluding Dntteries . . . . 2. « «2 11, 334,88
$45, 828.46
SALES ACCOUNT
Credits:
Sales of Machines . , .o 7
“ " Yparts, Repairs, &c, a? he
s+ 6 + $44,352.50
oe 1,917.27
46,249.77
Cost of Sales . . . 6 1 ee ee ee 44,202.54
Profit on Sales § 2,047.23
PROFIT and LOSS ACCOUNT
3 Wonths to
28th Feby 1910 30th Novr 1909
$7,773.91
16, 543,195
2, 846, 36
$27,163.42
$15, 203.45
5, 924, 83
6,035.14
$27,163.42
$21,760.00
4,940.50
26,700.50
23, 839.18
$ 2,861.32
Profit on Sales an above, . . . 6 © eh Ue CUS 2,047.23 % 2,861.32
Expenses, including Salaries, Advertising,
Maintenance, Experimental, &c,
as annexed $18,052, 41 $19,327.23
Less: Part of Expenses charged
against cost of product
asp shown in Proluction
Account 11, 334.88 6,035.14
Balance of Ixpenses charged off 6,717.53 13, 292.09
Loss for three months to
26th February, 1910 $4,670.30 $10, 430.77
3
HxperimentaL , ,
woin tenance oo.
Shipping, Reeeiving,
Rent * 8 .
Supplian os 8
Power. , .
Heat, Light, Vater,
Insuranes . . ,
Labor... .
Freight and Cartage
faxes. . ,
Salnries eo te, te
Guaranteed Naintenance
Advertising oo.
Photographs oe
Commission es
Stationery & Printing
Sales fxpense , ,
Miscellaneous . ,
travelling .
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Telephone and Telegraph
Fos tage o 8 4
Discount and Exchange
.
3 Honths 3 Yonths to
28th Feby 1910 30th Kovr 1909
$1,175.14 $1,346.95
1,890.93 1, 276,36
397.74 435.90
845,00 545.00
294, 68 338.33
192,21 272.71
391,40 235.36
189,24 181,61
191.69 157.69
230,61 132.96
13.86 25.54
6,003.07 5,541.53
1, 662,58 3,586. 26
549,84 1,849.81
96.69 862.41
1,725,295 726.03
223.36 457.64
492,30 450,00
1, 304,00 621,81
184.05 337.60
68.99 92.79
52,25 90.75
1203.67 40.61
$18,052.42 $19, 327,25
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Electrette , . . .« 2. « «
Delivery Wagon. . . 2. «© « -
Electrette 3/4 complete. . . .
Four Wheeled hageage truck . . .
Taxicab ., . 6. 6 «© 6 ew ew
Panel Wagan (Show) i ae, Ser AB
Standard Express Yagon Body a as
Type 46 G Body Agape Nee Che
" 36 A Bxpress Wagon Bodies © $147.88
" 36 H Sides Rack Bodies @ $192, 84
" 46 A xpress Bodies e $187.83
® 36 Chassis (Grey Wagon) . ,
#. V. Express Wagon . .. «6 «6 «
Type 36 Platform Body for testing
BE. VY. Chassis from Macy, . . .
Yype 34 wheeled truck eo ei 48
at 167 B Wagon (#364) on al
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COMPLETND MACHINES
$ 1,850.00
1,600.00
1,459, 42
1,124, 56
2,766.77
1, 480,90
450,00
155.14
295.76
385,68
563.48
788,68
300,00
121.00
200.00
1,106.21
1,470.00
$15,516.70
ORDERS in PROCESS, 28th February, 1910,
Order No. Name Amount
2168 Red Touring Car . . . . . yy, ‘ % 1,756.63
2357 Disassemble Brown Touring Car. , , , 4, 1,676,12
2530 lo Taxicab Bodies. , , . . ee ee 1,249.46
2534 ll Taxicab Chasses . . . | | ( , 260.71
2542 5 Chasses Type 46 , , , | : hPa 1,077,21
2597 Taxicab Test Car , . een at eis Yat eh Ga 38 3,123.71
2601 1 taxicab Body - F, L, Dyer ae “is epee 714,32
2602 1 " Chassis " Mel gee en a ee ag 2,124, 24
2755 1 Body for Runabout , . , Bb meow “108,13
2891 Body for J. CG, Meyers Co, a? gues +O, cas Ch. & 259.24
2892 Chassis ., . , Wl WOR sty Wiig Oe. tae a. Poa 880.96
2895 Repairs on Wdison Blue Car Pat ey eee 262.92
2927 25 St. Gear Sectors ., , , Re ode, Ol Ge? 144,4
2936 3 Chasses for Higbee Company . . . . 4 3,534.71
: 2937 3 Panel “lagon bodies for the Higbee Co, < 717.75
' : 2938 2 - 3 Wheel Industrial Trucke for
i Hamburg American Line aS 26% Lae. Ves Pe 2,771.13
2944 Chassis for Robert Gair, , . Bee ok 896.41
2945 Body " " Meee fat Se0 ct ah doe yh ae 298, 26
2946 Chessis for Columbia Storage Warehouse Co, 549.46
2947 Body " rf " ' 4 126, 30
2973 1 Chassis for wdison Chemical Co, ghee 866.64
2975 10 Chasses for Abraham & Strauss . SN tn oe 1,074, 36
2976 10 Bodies 4 a " Nose am at Ae 185,74
Miscelianeous , ., , . . . . lle 579.53
$25, 258,59
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Unfilled orders and contracts 31st March, 1910,
Columbia Storage Warehouses, N.Y.City
1 type 36 EB Panel Wagon & 2,817.50
Edison Chemical Works, Silver Lake, N, J.
1 Type 46 G Truck 3, 450,00
Abraham & Strauss, Brooklyn, WN. Y¥.
10 Type 136 i Ponel wagons 29,000.00
Otis Elevator Co., Yonkers, N. Y.
1 Type G Warehouse Truck 2,200.00
2 W " " 3,050.00
Jas, A. Hearn & Son, New York, N. Y,
2 Type 66 H Trucks 4, 395.00
16 " 36 Chasses 16,800.00
Steinwny & Sons, New York, N. Y,
1 Yype 46 H Piano Wagon 3,600.00
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LANSDEN & LANSDEN
DISTRICT COUNSEL
MOBILE & OHIO RAILROAD COMPANY
814 COMMERCIAL AVENUE
CAIRO, ILLINOIS, JUly 5, 1910,
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Edison Laboratory,
West Orange, Neds JUL 8- ig{9
My dear Mr. Eaison:-— 1/4
Leaving, Newark last Saturday a few days before I had
expected I wan not able to see you regarding a letter to Mr.
Samiel Insull, After a short visit with my relatives here in
Cairo I am going on to Chicago and I think it would be well
to have our man there meet Mr. Insull, If you will give me a
letter of introduction and forward to me here in Cairo, I will
call upon ure Insull with our man Klingelamith, who has a number
of good "prospects" in Chicago,
I expect to be back around the middle of the month.
Incidentily, cairo is not the coolest place for a visit, but
was & g00d town in which to receive returns of the recent,
mich lamented prize fight.
Yours truly
Mies Da Seth oe wt.
Yiu ێ2 ace
Are Cw ihy Lo hae ae
Way ME erm Oo. ed, a of Gee leans 2 ێ, bea Cine a You
rtd Yung aa | R anf ene e
ae deca GleBCpve eae willie tes 6. y
tens é
Bitwter, Gates & Lk etn. rm wl h ae tone: enon! Stas ef ty~
Chem, Me hae. Ca Ane, tae Bh. ee ads. Rune ele
Vr ,o' a fee wahtan af
REFER TO THIS NUMBER FRANK L. DYER,
MEMORANDUM
ORANGE. N J
Novembor 4,1910,
Mr, Holden: ~
Referring to my memorandum of Octobor 21st
to lir, Churchill, you will note that lir, Lansden has
now carried out all the conditions of the Original ar-
rangement with Mr, Edison, so that I can now transfer ss
the stock I hold as trustee to Mr, Edison. Please see ;
that this is done. Of course, I want to retain at least
one shere to qualify me as an officer end director.
After the stock has been transferred to Mr. Edison,
please return the original letter to lir, Miller, dated
August 31, 1908, The matter of contknuing Mr, Lonsden
as general manager will be held in abeyance.
FR. 1. D
FLD/ ARK,
\ Stet THE LANSDEN COMPANY, NEWARK, N. Jd.
Financial Statement at Close of Month Ending December 31lst, 1910. 5
ASSETS Paes z = an
Cash . || ray 090. i : | a anal
Accounts Receivable , £006 CHS. } J b NS . ae
Notes Receivable aa : | | i | “ 7 eu
Plant 289 CAPS. | ae ne
Company's Machines 285000. a : ! H
: -poralie
73H0193.
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Materials and Supplies
Orders in Process .
Complete Machines .
Premiums on unexpired Insurance
Undistributed Taxes
Improvement Account at Hifh Etreet
Frahk LL. Dyer, Trustee
LIABILITIES TORT
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Accounts Payable i 76q321¢.. | mine oy one
H i | i { ,
Notes Payable il 7 1.000, Oo} |. |
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P . sok d : Accrucd Expense i 4802, | J at
' . : Capital Stock \ 1300.00.00. ! . | 42
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New York Edison Company .
| Hamburg=Anoriean Line
@. 0. Olson Cartage Co.
Rorle Varehouse & lype
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Storage Co.
Brooklyn, ye Y.
Yew York, O. ¥.
4 Type
Nobolron, Ue Je
1 Zype -
Chicugo, 121i. ;
i Type B6-E Ve.gon
216-% fiagon
606-G Doc Prueks -
AZ6-6 Panel Vagon
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Unfilled Orders and Contracts : “ ; Pe eta :
oe eae A “| gidado ||)
-. Home Geos Parsonea .. 1 Type. 616=8 Car + | @25000 , neces
Ly aH Cairo, Tlie. a LPS ta hy el
°4" Robort Guiry COs 1 Sype 3-E 6 ton truck 1 GBAOO LLY ah..
a Brocklyn, N. Ye eu eee
'« _ Gimbel Brothore 4 fyp0 WVG-F Delivery Wagon. 1060000) |) |)
Yow York,5.¥. 4 Typo 136-"% Delivery “agon. 1110710 OO.) |i | : |
7 ; 4 Type 1362) Nelivory “agon 10 20,000: ee
Rugene =. idee . 1 fype B6-Avagon 7 te
oot... .. *hiladolphia, Yoo “ 2
Pioneor Verehouses 1 Gyno 216 Checsis
is Broozlyn, H. Ye :
is f. He Orton . 1 ?yre Baker Vegon .
7 ae Bridgeport, Conn. _
Boston Rubber “hoo Co. L Syve 46—4 Truol _
~ Malden, Meso. —_
Goorge Ehret ee. &, Habuilt Truoke
i How York, le Yoo: |.
| Armour & Company 1 type 66 Chassis
hs Chicago, Ill.
SUMMARY OF VARIOUS ITEMS AS SHOWN ON PINANCIAL AND
OPERATING STATEMANT FOR MONTH SIDING DECEMBER Sist, 1910.
COMPANY'S MACHINES
One Electretta
One Delivery Wagon
COMPLETE MACHINES
One 4 wheeled baggage truck
One Luxtoab.
One Standard Express Wagon Body
One Type S6H Side Rack Body
One Type 46A Express Body
One Type 36 chassis, Grey Wagon
One E. V. Express Wagon
One Type 3 wheeled truck ;
One Type 36 Platfarm body for testing
One E. V. Chassis (Hacy}
Type 136~-H Rack Truck somplete #455 (Shov)
Type 168-J Patrol Wagon Comp. #476 (Phila)
Type 136-E Panel Wagon Comp. £446 (Boston)
One Type LS6@E Panel Wagon Comp. #448 (Chicago)
One Type 256-M Truck Complete 7454 (Cleveland)
One Type G wheeled truck "Kelly" Comp. (Show)
One Type 3 wheeled truck (no battery
One Type 136 Chassis 124" wheel base (no Batt)
One
One
PLAHN®
Machinery
Instruments & Tools
Furniture & Pixtures
Patterns, Templates & Dies
Drawings & Designs
$1850.00
1000.00 $2850.00
1124.56
2766077
450.00
192.84
187.82
788.68
300.00
1106.21
121.00
200.00 ’
1534.94 no batteity
3000.02
2854.07
2716.18
2641.41
1399.77
1075.76
1548.44. $24008.47
9294.87
4257 89
4218.18
2673.59
8540.32 $728984.85
IMPROVEHEN®
Interior Buildings ,fittings,ete.. at High St.
ACCRUED EXPERSE
Wages due Pay~-Roll
z " Night-watchmen, Janitors, Ete.
4 " Store-keepers
¢ " Garage-man
wT ’
Demonstrator at Chicago
878.06 $878.06
1281.71
68.84
76679
“28.57
25.71 $1480.62
ORDERS IN PROCESS, DECEMBER Slst., 1910.
2357 . $1676.12
2530 1136.66
2634 261.88
26420 600.00
2597 $123.71
2601 714.52
2602 ; 2124.24
2756 108.13
2814 | 1828.60
3252 142.38
3328 764.59
3330 . 2863.54
3331 Z : 568.01
3400 e 254.86
3461 1724.11
3459 87018270
3460 5.65
3465 185.18
3464 Boe 201.15
3490 11465.70
3517 . 313.37
3518 1926.95
3529 : - ..1-LQ 008
3547 4002.86
3562 588.36
3570 217.35
3579 28.10
3580 25.51
3581 155.69
3585 — a 57.04
3586 162.12
3588: 96.99
3589 ; 86.33
3590 - 33.78
3591 Rin - 66.39
3592 © sgt” 112.82
3600 : 17.56
3602 233.93
3603 Ss 1169.13
3605 — fo 1860.07
3609 a 6.24
3610 6.24
3615, 51.03
3614 ; 154.92
3617 . 7 3Be65
3624 468.37
3627 | ys 457.51
3628 | .. 1271.09
3637 180.74
3662 « 5.85
3666 107.05
3667 1044.80
3669 171.61
3671 817.67
3676 2,20
3679 1.15
3680 12.06
3681 52.40
3885 3.93
3684 | 525.74
3685 126.00
3686 18.31
3687 3.40
3688 095
3689 4.28
3690 6,03
TOTAL ORDERS IN PROCESS : $73401.93
SUMMARY OF ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AS OF DECEMBER Sist, 1910.
Abraham & Straus 38.01
The Acme Garage 8,85
Adams Express Company 39.90
Adams Vehicke Company H.H. & Phila. 194.33
Adams Vehicle Company Ind. & Rochester 50.06
Adams Vehicle Company 3.¥. & Washimton 1307.00
The Arlingtom Company 3.00
Bayonne Hospital : 3000.00
Balievue & Allied Hospitals 1.50
California Electric Garage Co. 2,85
Central Smolting Works (Samuel Rosen) 174.02
Chamberlin Auto Company 27.55
Carew Manufsucturing Co. 6.00
Columbia Storage Warehouses 3260
PF. L. Dyer 32.65
Thomas A. Edison 306.94
Rdison Chemical Vorke 169.44
Edison Phonograph Yorks 122.98
The Empire State Dairy Co, 1.20
Fairfield Dairy Company 53.420.
Federal Storage Battery Car Co. 18.35
Firestone Tire & Rubber (Go, 76
Forbes & Wallace 4.05
Gimbel Brothers 56.20
Robert Gair Company 10.00
Globe Storage & Carpet Cleaning Co, 9.20
Green Car Sight Seeing Co, 7225
The Halle Bros. Go, 147 ,45
Homburg~American Line 39 435
James A. Hearn & Son 402.17
A. G. Hyde & Sons 14.15
A. Luchow 096
R. FB. Macy & COs 319-11
Nondel Brothers 2960.00
John G. Myers Co, 4.50
New York Telephone Company 15.46
New York Transportation Comp: ny 11.50
T. Shea (U.Y. & Springfield Despaton) 19,16
Eiegle Cooper Co, 28.05
J. Ie Street 60.60
J. He. Small & Song $100.00
Spaulding & Co, 135.00
Springfield Waste Company 4.80
Steinway & Song 61.01
Paiess eee ‘ 96.10
nite ectric Company of New Jorse
United States Eaveesa Consens m ree
Wells Fargo & Company Express 166.63
The Williams Printing Co, 3262.25
Winchester Repeating Arms Co, 34.50
“vight-Dickinson Hotel Company 3500.00
¥. d. Newoomb Migs Cos 8.00
TOT A L+--~~--§80066.43_
SUMMARY OF AOCGOUNTS PAYABLE AS OF DE
i ey
Aome Drill Co.
Amberg File & Index Co.
The Berger Msenufacturing Co
Achille Bataille & Co.
Banister & Pollard Co.
The Barlow Foundry Co.
Baldwin Chain & Mfr. Co.
Bettes & Ebsen
Briscoe Ufe. Co.
The Billings & Spencer Co.
Brown-Lipe Gear Co,
Edvard V. Brokaw & Bro.
Cr Spring Works
Carter’ iinite Lead Co.
The W.T. Crane Carriage Hardware Co.
James A. Coe & Co.
C. Cowles & Co,
The Crosby Company
Deforge Belting Company
Diamond Rubber Co.
Driver-Harris Wire Co.
Thomas A. Edison
Electric Motor & Equipment Co.
The Electric Welding Products Co.
Joseph F. Eberhard & Son Ine.
Edison Storage Battery Co.
Empire Auto Supply Co.
The English Mersick Co.
Paitoute Iron & Steel Company
Peter A. FPrasse & Co.
The Firestone Tire & Rubber Co.
Freight Handlera'& Railway Clerks' Journal
General Electric Company
C. A. Goldsmith
The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.
Groebe-NcGovern Company
Habne & Co.
The Halle Bros. Co.
Walter J. Harper Yo.
Edmund BF. Heath & Son
George Healy
The Hess-Bright Nanufacturing Co.
S. B. Howard
T. P. Howell & Co.
U. &. Hungerford Brass & Copper Co.
Hyatt Roller Bearing Company
Jd. Je Hockenjos Co.
Industriel Wire & Metal ‘orks
International Engineering Co.
International Time Recording Co.
CARRIED FORWARD~
RCEMBER Slst, 1910.
2.58
4.50
108.15
14.00
14.70
160.78
429.75
5.30
61.75
146.20
342.40
16.25
45.00
37.50
486.19
4.23
68.79
"10.80
14.80
6510
17.66
1570.62
41.39
89.66
17.34
51048.14
7.81
12.00
$48.28
201.42
740.13
15.00
8689.22
345.18
544.72
3375
5.00
18.75
16.85
73.85 |
3.90
56.10
170.00
167.42
60.53
20.40
23.41
77.260
9,88
2.00
“66347.16
SUMMARY OF ACCOUNTS
Hy 4. Jaeger
Phineas Jones & Co.
William Af Jones & Son
Ve. He Kemp Coe
Keuffel & Esser Co.
The Kuebler Foundries Inc.
Lebanon Steel Casting Company
E. B, Leonard
The Lockwood Company
Ludlow & Squier
Lybrand, Rogas Bros. & Vontgomery
Manhattan Electrical Supply “Oe
Massachusetts “hemical Yo.
Miller & Company
Murphy Varnish Company
Nanz Clock Company
Newark Machine Company
The New Departure Mfg. Co.
Naw York Telephone Co.
The National Saw Company
Newark Glass Co.
New York Transportation Co,
Eugene E. Nice
The Hoera Manufacturing Company
The Oelkers Mfg. Co.
oi K. Orton
Charies R. Partridge Lumber Ca.
Public Service Electric Company
Public Service Gass Company
We Peterson ;
Rising & Thorne
Riverside Steel Casting Co,
Roe & Conover
Royal Ribbon & Carbon Co.
Royal Typewriter Co.
R. E. Rodrignez
Sangamo. Electric Company
Searls Manufacturing ~ 0.
D. F. Segelie -
Shaw & Potter P
Singer Sewing Machine Co
Standard O11 Co. ea ta
Thomas A. Sanford Co.
The Standard Welding Co.
Strieby & Foote Co.
Spring Perch Company
The Schrars Wheel Company
The Scoville & Peak Co.
J. He Sliker
Frederick N. Sommor
S. A. Stephens
The Rea Resy Co. of Newark, He J,
Tolar, Hart & Co.
United Manufacturers
The Veeder Mig. Con
QO. T. Vogeler & Son
The Wagner~Pield Co,
Warner Instrument Co.
The Whitney Mfg.Co.
Magnus Wilson Company
Joel H. Woodman
Orlando W. Young
PAYABLE AS OF DE
POD A Ty mmm one!
HUBER Slst, 1911. (continued)
BROUGHT FORWARD------- -- 66547.16
6.00
21.85
1089.24
17.40
13.70
943.52
1739.57
275400
£20.30
67.350
13.97
35.28
119.09
8.14
5.50
12.40
350.00
345.63
269.88
4,00
68.52
25456
3.51
312.65
29629
2.00
5.60
874.80
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line if success depended on a battery euploying the lead sul-
phuric acid combination. That the dissatisfaction expressed
by so many owners using this kind of battery radiating out in
éll directions opinions that the electric truck was not a success.
sut upon the advent of the original Edison battery they reslized
that if the battory soul accomplish what the inventor pear
or come anywhere near it that a permanent busiviess could be built
up based upon the "satisfied customer" idea of doing business.
1.
At the time the Lansden Srothers antered the field
there were only three or a nenuzecturers of eleotric trucks
end most of those sold were soon abandoned by their ovmers not
on account of the vehicles themselves at the uncertsinty and
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excessive cost of maintenance of the lead betteries: some few
of the trucks continued to give fuir service where a firm head
Several in use, end employed an expert and took care of the
batteries in their owm gerage ~- but ee majority in isolated
places were in almost all cases abandoned. The vehicles, while
well made and Serviceable, wore too heavy end stiff; the idea of
their desiener probebly being thet the moce rigid end solid the
construction the longer they would last. She Lansden urotners
perceived thet tiis was an entirely wrong view , thet no mechinery
gets more jolts end jars than a repid moving truck heevily loxud-
ed and. thet elasticity of construction with a derge factor of
sefety, wes the key to the construction of dong lived vehicles.
The extreme lightness of weignt of the Edison Battery was a great
advantege in such a construction.
The Lensden Compuny were the first to use a deep trussed
frame, in fect trussing of #rames is even now not used in auto-
mobiles, elthough universal in every reilway car- bridge
roof) or construction where strength and lightness is required.
.gein, the Lansden Company never used driving gears
on their vehicles, only cheins sre used, geers cennot be kept in
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pitch line excevt in rigid constructions, end this class of
construction has no plece in vehicles. The high and violent
stresses which must pass between the teeth of a small drive gear
is too much for any metal, they in meny cases reach the tearing
point, the gear wears, gets out of pitch line end becomes noisy,
and finally breaks, generally the construction is such that it
ceunot be put in where the accidont occurs, hence it must be haul-
ed to & gerege. Vith ohein driven vehicles you have the elas-
ticity of the chain to reduce the sudden high stress to one
spread over a longer time. ‘The grein engages several large teeth
in the sprocket; no amount of stress will break these teeth and’
the only thing to break is the Chain - when this occurs a new link
can be put in anywhere in five minutes. This practice is now
after many years followed by our competitors. In the sesolene car
most of them are shaft driven by a bevel gear Simply beceuse the
public wented the car more noiseless, but oy high power and racing
5.
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trucks heaving bell noamhawe on their axles - and the reason is thet
tests heve shown Just the contrery to the popular belief that
there is no gain from their use, but on the contrary there is a
complication. Ball bearings are good in their plece where the
pressures are not high, but on the axles of an electric truck
they are of a positive disedvantege. Tt is probably assumed
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thet because two vehicles, one i as one without bell bearings,
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the former is easily pushed across the gerage floor, while the
latter requires considerable force, that there is a great advantage
in ball bearings. They forget thet with the plain bearing the
metals are in contact at these slow speeds and only when running
does the oil lubrication come into play. Then, owing to uneven-
ness of road, oil lkbrication is at its best, which explains where
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two vehicles of exactly the same weight, one with and one without
bell bearings, the one with plain bearings will give the greatest
mileage for the same power. They also assume that the pressure
on the ball bearing et all times is only the weight of one-fourth
of the vehicle. This is very far from the case. If the vehicle is
going over & rough road the blow delivered to the solid rubber
tire and wheel, and thence to the bell bearing gives high stresses
amsunting at times to many times the whole weight of the vehicle
end load. Under these stresses the balls deform because they
' are hérdened and under ereat internal strain, and the Supposed gain
is not made, but becomes a source of trouble. The proper place for
ball beerings , if used, is on the: motor or jack shaft.
The letest steel cars of 100,000 pounds capecity, now
so largely used on railways, for heuling coal, weigh only 39,000
pounds - which figures out one pound of car heuls two-and a half
pounds of load. While the Lensden Company have not reached this
point, they have come fairly near it, more so than one of its com-
petitors who have built for one concern 25 vehicles each weighing
4,000 pounds, and which, owing to the nature of the business. conduct-
ed by the concern could never by any probability be called upon to
cerry over 500 pounds. If this factor was used on the coel car
bpagey &
we would heve 39,000 pounds of car Nenling pounds of coal.®
Take the Lansden one-ton truck which is designed to carry
60 cells of the Edison A 4 battery rated et 10,800 watt hours and
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If we substitute a light weisht lead battery of 56 cells, giving
12,000 watts and weighing 1550 pounds, ea eves losd the vehicle
the difference between 870 pounds EDESEREY pounds, to-wit: 680
pounds. Evidently, if we are to keep our stresses the same we oan~
not cerry a ton but only 1520 pounds - but supposing we overloaded
the vehicle 680 pounds, end the vehicle with Edison battery weighed
2 tons, then at eee per ton mile we shall get a maileeee from
the 10,800 watts of 54 miles; whereas with the substitution of the
lead bettery, we get with 12,000 watts a-mileage of 51.2miles -
but if the vehicle was strengthened on the principle that one pound
10.
of vehicle pulls a pound of freight, then the vehicle would heve to
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be increased 680 pounds, and this, with the 680 pounds <a bettery
gives 1360 pounds to-use tue lead betteny, it would weigh losded
5360 pounds instead of 4,000 pounds, and the mileage would be re-
duced from 54 to 44.7.
4s the present prices of cms vary from 70 to 90 cents
per pound, and as 680 pounds of extra Geeks must be built to carry
the extra weight of the lead battery, it will be seen that the low
price of the battery is only apparent - as a matter of fect its
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1910. Battery - Primary (D-10-04)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to
the primary batteries produced by the Edison Manufacturing Co. The items
for 1910 pertain to the manufacture and design of batteries and to sales
arrangements with licensed dealers and agencies. Among the
correspondents is Frank L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Manufacturing
Co.
All of the documents have been selected except for routine
memoranda concerning orders and a payment to Eben G. Dodge, general
manager of the Edison Storage Battery Co.
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Dear Sir, a
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Y beg to hand you a repring of a publication relating to my
Primary Dry Cells I have also w nice arrangement for Accumulator
Plates’ which reduce the weight about 15% and more,+~-~
The primary cell however is fully experimented and finished
and is 30% in advance of every maker in the world in capacity,
The construction is cheaper and: more convenient,
t havedbhe German and American Patents,
Could you help me in your Country? ,,
Yours faithful ly,
~Larheel Peers | rou Greeny . MIRAI ASE Lecownt:
patroybreo| 4 Rn 2a kk , or onlricd Snes an Anan cy “~
Reet ao ll, Ww, cer wHkemad Ad Aroume hay
alo opi a she Run iLts roa “Ug Hanne oash
Any cold ats ye ; fered, S hoes ~ttrkeel eer |
of) Une rkow mils ee 4 fe anol cont of pnrodag
nf Anrcet UwAracion » Wd, MN Morurol
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Messrs. Hudson= Leaming- Jubsrt- Rieshl- Redfearn- Eckert- Burton.
Mr. Rishi will take inventory on Juno ist of the raw matsrial on
hand at Silver Lake used in ths making of batterius. Genaral expenses
iteu wili not bs included.
From June lst all material with ths exception of sxpynse items
recsived at Silver Lake will be charged to "Silver Laks Btock" for
which an account will be opened on tha books.
Mr. Hudson will receive a daily report of material used which
will be entered and priced on Material Transfer Sheats. Upon come
pletion they will be feurwarded to the Accounting Department to ba
vouchsarad, Silver Lake Stock boing credited and Battgsry account
cnargod. .
Mr. Leaming wi1l furnish Mr. Yudson with a dally list of bills
passed through his department, showing material, quantity and pric?
of goods charged to Silver Lake. This information is for ths purpose
of pricing the Material Transfar Sheets.
If Mr. Rishl racsives goods from stock at BMIXWSOOE Orangs
such items as belonging to the Manufacturing Co. will be entered on the
Material Transfers crediting Battery and charging Silwer Laks.
ALl requisitions for material required at Silver Lake will be
forwarded by Mr. Rishl to ir. Hudson who will approves same and pass.
on to Purchasing Department.
5/280. WY. J. Bushisr.
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REPER TO THIS NUMMER RET re ; SYorage FRANK L, DYER,
In eee MEMORANDUM ORANGE, N
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po
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July Sth, 1910.
Mr. J. We Aylaworth:
I return, herewith, letter to you of the Sra ultimo,
from Mr. He. Ge Aylsworth, of San Francisco.
Tha matter was referred to Mr. Hudson, who raports
adversly on the proposition. I, therefore, cannot do anything
in the matter, and wish you would write Mr. Ayisvorth to this
effect, explaining the situation to hin.
Mr. Edison suggests that if the storage batteries
for sparking purposes develop in future, this night be a thing
thet Mr. Aylsworth could get something out of, in connection
with Mr. Nestor.
Fe. i. De
Enc,
[ENCLOSURE]
sae Pete sneha at nt
June 20; G 919s oar
AGMST tad |
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MR. F. L. DYER: -
Vith the return of the attached letter from the Aylsvorth
Agencies Company, San Francisco, I would advise that I would not consider
it good policy for us to make an arrangement with any manufacturers’
agency to handle our business on the Pacific Coast. Our Pacific Coast
business was hendled in this manner about ten years ago with decidedly
unsatisfactory results. The chief objection ta this kind of an arrange -
ment is that we are dependent almost wholly upon the activities of the
manufacturers' agency to develop the business in any perticuler terri-
tory, and it frecuently happens thet such concerns are unable to do busi-
ness with some of the biggest buyers, for personal or other reosons, and
that the manufacturer is unable to get the business direct because of
guth agency arrangement. Furthermore, we are at present doing business
with railroad companies, large gas engine manufacturers and jobbers on
the Pacific Coest, some of whom buy through headauarters in the Rast, and
the methods of hendling the business are go complex that it is @ifficult
to have the business handled by an agency in just the manner desired by
us. ;
It would be necessary to allow a commission of from 5% to
7-1/2% on all sales made by such an agency, and, as our business on the
Pacific Coast is rapidly approaching the “100,000 mark, we could put a
representative in the the territory, representing us exclusively, at a
smaller cost than if the business were handled through a manufacturers!
agency and with much better results, as we would then be in direct con-
trol of our business and would not be so likely to lose our grasp on it
as if it were handled through an outside concern. I believe further
that the larger jobbers with whom we are doing business would prefer to
deal with us direct, especially if we had a representative on the Coast,
than to place their orders through an agency.
BEH/DB.
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(Copies for Messrs. Wilson & Hudson)
Oct. Lith, 1910.
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Messrs. Edison & Dyer:-
Herewith you will find Photographs of the New
5 & 7-Plate Pocket Type Battery, and also data relating to the same,
including list of parts and the approximate manufacturing cost of
assembled elements: A 5-plate cell of 400 A--H capacity consists of
the following:
Noe 1. One Suspension Plate 1-7/16" x 1-5/8", soft cold rolled steel,
copper-plated, with rigid riveted brass threaded stem in same.
Ho. 2. Two Interchangeable Porcelain Separators.
No. 3- One Iron Zinc-plate Suspension Bolt, 2-7 /_" long, copper-
plated and amalgamated.
No. 4. Pour Iron Nuts for No- 3, copper-pleted and amalgamated.
lo. 5. One Copper Washer for No. 3, amalgamated.
No. 6. One Vonnection Wire for No. 3 (size #11) copper, tinned,
covered with rubber insulation, the latter being stripped
from the ends, which are amalgamated.
Hoe 7. Iwo Outside Zine Plates, each with copper hanger, amalgamated,
270 grams zinc, net, each.
Noe 8. One Inside Zinc-plate with copper henger, amalgamated, 400
grams zinc, net.,
No. 9. Two Oxide Pockets consisting of iron. wire frame with end of
stems threaded, beidge piece; the whole copper-plated with
perforated sheet steel retainer; pressed in frame and ribbed;
the same containing 350 grams of roasted copper scale, net,
in each. Bach pocket is treated by being dipped in caustic
soda bath and baked.
No. 10. our Iron Nuts, copper~plated for No. 9, two for each pocket.
No. ll. four Thin Copper Washers for No- 9, two for each pocket.
The finished renewals, consisting of above perts assembled and
ready for shipment, cost approximately, per 100, as follows:
Cost of Cost of Foremen & Total
Material Labor Inspection
Zine plates complete with
Separators, bolt, nuts, washer
and wire, . 1... 6 1 ee 26.95% 2.462 232 29.66
Pockets with frame, nuts and
washers, loaded with oxide,
pressed, ribbed, dipped and
baked, 2 05s ew bw 6 ew 23.86 4.62 48 28.96
Suspension Plate & Bolt, 1-34 48 005 1.87
Assembly, . 2. . 1 6 «1 4 oe «50 *05 255
Total, -.... 52.155 8. 06g sole 61.04
One 5-plate renewal thus costs approximately 61d.
In comparison a BSCO 400 A--H renewal assembled with suspension
bolt costs 43%¢.
Both cases being without soda, oil, Jar, cover, and suspension
bolt nuts.
(Page #2)
A Y-plate cell of 600 A--E capacity consists of the
following parts:
No.» 1. One Suspension Plate 1-7/16" x 2-11/16", soft cold rolled
steel, copper-plated, with rigid riveted brass threaded
stems in same.
No. 2. Three Interchangeable Porcelain Separators.
Noe 3. One Iron Zine Plate Suspension Bolt 3~31/32" long, copper-
plated and amalgamated.
No. 4. Five Iron Nuts for No. 3, copper~plated and amalgamated.
No. 5. One Copper Washer for No. 3, amalgamated.
No. 6. One Connection Wire for No. 3 (size #11), copper, tinned,
covered with rubber insulation, the latter being stripped
from the ends, which are amalgamated.
Noe Ye Two outside Zinc Plates each with copper hanger, amalgamated,
270 grams of zinc,net, each.
No. 8. Two Inside Zine Plates each with copper hanger, amalgamated,
400 grams of zinc, net, each.
Woe 9. Three Oxide Pockets consisting of iron wire frame with end
of stems threaded, bridge piece; the whole copper-plated
with perforated sheet steel yretainer,pressed in frame and
ribbed; the same containing 350 grams of roasted copper
scale, net, in each. Hach pocket is treated by being dipped
in caustic soda bath and baked. ;
No. 10. Six Iron Nuts, copper-plated for No. 9, two for each pocket.
No. 11- Six Thin Copper Washers for No. 9, two for each pocket.
The finished Renewals, consisting of above parts assembled
and ready for shipment, cost approximately, per 190,as follows:
Cost of Cost of Foremen & Total.
Material Lebor Inspection
Zine plates complete with
separators, bolt, nuts, washer
and wire,. . - « 6. © «© 6 6 6 3%.70 3.22 31 41.23
Pockets with frame, nuts and
washers, loaded with oxide,
pressed, ribbed, dipped and
baked. 2 2 6 6 6 2 es we eo ow e) 635679 6.93 072 43.44
Suspension Plate & Bolt, 1.45 «54 -06 2.05
Assembly, / .. 6 1. 0 1 a oe 075 .07 82
Total, -..... . 74,94 dle T.16 T.
One 7%~plate renewal thus costs approximately 87i¢., i
the same being without soda, oil, jar, cover and suspension bolt
nuts.
As the 400 A--H BSCO Battery is the largest size at present manufactured,
there can be no comparison with this new 7-plate cell as regards
cost. j
Both the 5 and the 7-plate assembled elements are designed to be used
in connection with present stock sizes of jars.
(Page #3)
The estimate outlined herein indicates that the new 400 A--I
assembled elements cost approximately 17 cts. per cell more than. the
corresponding size of BSCO, considering labor, material and the same
percentage for overhead expense.
In addition to the marked improvement of these new elements over
the present BSCO, as far as mechanical construction and appearance
are concerned, the following advantages of the new type were indicated
in a report sent to My..Edison by ir. W. H. Holland under date of
4/27/10.
MECHANICAL ADVANTAGES,
1. Oxides of the loaded type have great mechanical strength, so
that the heavy losses due to breakage (both during manufacture and
afterwards) will be entirely overcome. >
ge This construction mekes possible the building of oxides as thin
and as large as is desired, and thus makes the multiple-plate design
practicable.
3. The oxide plate,being practically integral with this support,
precludes the possibility of bad contact between the plate and the
support.
4. The rigid support of plates in the new design allows of spacing
the plates closer together without danger of short circuit.
1. Uniformity. Oxides made in the new way, being machine loaded,
will necessarily run very uniform in weight and dimensions, and there-
fore will have’ practically identical electrical characteristics:
This is decidedly not the case with the present oxides; as the factors
of weight, moisture, pressure, baking temperature and surface reduction
all vary considerably, making a great difference in the quality and
electrical working of the product.
Page #4.
2. Reliability. Great trouble is experienced with the present
BSCO cell because of reoxidization of the copper layer at the surface
of the oxide plate. This reoxidization occurs when oxides are kept in
stock too long, and also in assembled cells when used infrequently or
allowed to stand some time without use. It has been found by experi-
ment that the loeded oxide plate absolutely eliminates this bad
feature; the perforated container performs in a positive and reliable
manner the functions of the copper surface layer, bringing the CuO
in all parts of the plate into good metallic contact with the connect-
ing support.
3. Experiment has shown that at constant temperature the capacity
of a given volume of the caustic soda electrolyte, that is, the ouan-
tity of zine which it will dissolve, depends unon the current rate per
square inch of active zine surface. In the 5~-plate cell the active
zine surface is doubled, and in the 7-plate cell it is trebled.
Therefore at the same discharge rate per cell the current per square
inch of active zine surface would be one-half regular in the 5-plate
and one-third regular in the 7-plate. This makes it possible to
realize much higher capacity in a given size cell.
4. With the same spacing of plates the internal resistance of the
5-plate cell would be about one-half and the 7-plate cell one-third
of that of the regular type with vlates of the same dimensions; but
it is possible with the new construction to diminish the distance
between plates to two-thirds of the present standard, thus decreasing
, the internal resistance by one-third more.
5. The working voltage of the multiple-plate cells will be much
higher than the regular at the same discharge rate, on account of
their lower internal resistance; or, to put it another way, these
cells can be discharged at a new high rate and still maintain good
Page #5.
voltage. AS voltage is the weak point of the Lalande type of cell,
this increase is very desirable. It is large enough in amount to
allow of replacing a 16-cell battery with 15 or perhaps 14 cells.
Ge On a 4 ampere discharge of regular and multiple-plate cells
all in "SS" jars with 4 liters of 20% NaOH each, the results compared
as follows:-
Ampere Hours, (to saturation of solution):
Regular 363 4-H 100%
5-plate 452 " 124.6%
Y-plate 533 u 146-8
Average Yoltage.
Regular .518 VY. 100%
5-plate .570 " 110%
7-plate .587 +" 113.3%
Watt - Hours.
Regular 187 100;
Biplate 258 . 13873
7-plate 313 167. 4i
Consideration of plant maintenance and losses in manufacturing,
show to the advantage of the new type cell. For instance, the present
method of manufacturing oxide plates for the BSCO requires a series of
special ovens designed to withstand the high heat necessary to bake
the plate (about 1570° FP.) with a limited period of usefulness,
necessitating the rebuilding of ovens at comparatively short periods.
In addition a loss of plates running as high as 60% has been met with,
the defect being in broken plates, buckled plates and a non-uniformity
: .
Page #6.
in shrinkage. Also the consumption of fuel necessary to produce and
maintain the high heat is an added expense.
In baking the new type pocket an ordinary japanning oven will be
used requiring heat of from 250°to 300° P., unlimited life to the oven,
and a period of approximately but four to five hours for the baking
process. The dipping of the plates preparatory to baking requires but
about £0 minutes; and as it is anticipated to place about 24 pockets in
a crete, dip same and load 16 crates on a truck, which it is intended
to wheel into the oven, a great saving in time can be made in thus
finishing the oxide plates. In addition there will be no loss of plates
as all plates loaded and baked will be assembled.
The following is a comparison between time required for 5 x 5 BSCO
Oxide Plates and those of the new type, in which it is assumed that the
grinding, mixing and pressings of the former about equal the loading and
pressing of the latter and that the oven for handling each type occupies
“the same floor space.
BSCO.
Number of plates handled, 2400.
drying on steam table after
pressing, » »-........ 20 Hrs.
hoading oven, ......4-
Baking, 40 to 60 Hrs.Average, 50 "
Cooling oven preparatory to
unloading, ......... 8 "
Unloading, ......+.s.. 2 *
Soaking, Reducing, Burnishing
and Drying, ....4..+44. 48
Total, 150 Hrs.
No- of pletes per hour, 16.
4 loss of 50% in oven would further
reduce the rate as the periods of
loading, baking and cooling, also
unloading, would be factors involved.
The condition of the new cell is
New Type.
Number of plates handled, 2400
Period of soaking, dipping,
loading on trucks, wheeling
in and out of oven and
cooling, .......... 2 Hrs.
Time in Oven, ..... 210
Total, Te
umber of plates per hour, 200
such that orders for the necessary
raw materials and machines and equipment for plant may be placed, also the
H
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lay-out of plant prepared and the requisitions issued for making the
special machines and handling appliances, etc., mentioned in memo. to
aire Dyer, under date of Sept. 16th, if, in view of the cost, it is
decided to start manufacturing the elements substantially as the
photograph shows.
. G. Schiff},
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REFER TO THIH NUMBER FRANK L. DYE
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Referring to your momorandum of the 19th inst., I
heave gone over the proposed agreement with the Waterbury Battery
Company and so far as I can sce this agreement is correct.
I presume you observed the point thet the Watorbury peorle
will have a license after November 1, 1915, but will not be
bound to any amount for minimum royalties. Assuming that
the agreement is approved by Mr. Hudson and yourself, please
make the necessary arrangements to heve it executed by Mr.
Schoenmehl.
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Edison
Primary Batteries
Formerly known as
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For Stationary and PortableGasEngines, ©
Slot Machines, Fan Motors, Railroad
and Mine Signals, Phonographs, Sewing
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1910. Battery - Storage - General (D-10-05)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
commercial and technical development of Edison's alkaline storage battery.
Among the documents for 1910 are numerous items in Edison's hand,
including a 20-page draft letter to Samuel Insull urging him to promote the
battery among "our central station people" and a memorandum regarding the
proposed guarantee on his battery. There are also documents pertaining to the
manufacture of batteries and the finances of the Edison Storage Battery Co.,
along with letters concerning the use of the battery in submarines, buses,
streetcars, railroads, and other applications. Some of the letters refer to the
proposed use of the battery with the Klaxon automobile horn invented by Miller
Reese Hutchison. Also included are numerous unsolicited requests for
information about the battery, some with marginal notes by Edison. A sample
of these letters has been selected. At the end of the folder is an undated
typescript containing “instructions for the proper care of Edison storage
batteries" and comparing the Edison battery to the Exide battery manufactured
by the Electric Storage Battery Co. Among the correspondents are Frank L.
Dyer, vice president and general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co.:
William G. Bee, sales manager; and business associates Ralph H. Beach,
Cornelius J. Field, Miller Reese Hutchison, Samuel Insull, Frank J. Sprague,
and Walter E. Holland.
Approximately 50 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include letters and memoranda regarding company board
meetings, purchasing, and inventory; reports on the use of lead batteries in
submarines and streetcars; unsolicited requests; letters of transmittal; and
items that duplicate information in selected material.
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By J. H. Adams.
: 66 HAVE Téund the mietaty” said Thomas
A. Edison, “and the problem has
oo [ been. solved." : bd
nee The great inventor was speaking
to me of ‘his wonderful new battery which is des-
tined to revolutionize transit facilities and drive
horses off the streets of all large cities. ae
Running the gantlet of the high fence about the
laboratory, the guard at the «wicket gate and the
humerous Sentinels in the form of workmen who are:
always on guard to keep’ the intruder from en-
‘croaching on the time of the busiest inventor in-the
world, the writer bearded the lion in his den up ‘on
the second floor of the great. laboratory at West
Orange, N. J., and after persuading him that the
world was anxious to learn of his latest discoveries,
eSpeclally in the line of storage batteries and cement. -
Mr. Edison talked with: great freedom.
“Singularly -enough,” ‘said Mr. Edison, speaking -
of the battery, “after years of study and hard ta-
bor, to say nothing of.the enormous expertise, it
all came out’ right one day and now it is an ac-
complished fact. ‘1 have found .the metal; that
solves the problem." ' . :
Mr, Edison was speaking of his new cobalt pro-
‘cess, which .has produced a metallic compound
that, revolutionizes the: making of electric ‘storage
_ batteries, It ‘was to find the necessary ‘cobalt’
that “Mr, Edison made his recent extensive journeys,
especially in the South: -* bed aa yk :
_. Water Does the Trick: ¥* ™
Tn the Edison battery the ‘aetive materials are,
oxides of nickes and of iron respectlvely in the
bositive and negative electrodes: tho’ electrolyta’
—the Hquid in which the electrodes aye tm-
mersed—being a solution of caustic potash. in,
wator. The retaining cans aro of sheet stent
electro-plated ‘with nickel, fused so that they
are practically one’ metal. The battery is prac«
Heally unlimited in {ts life. As only the water in
the potash solution evaporates, so only water
need be added to keep the electrolyte in the right
condition. ‘There are no acid fumes to destroy
the fron work of a’ truck or wagon and eateat
away,, 18 in tho old style hatterles whero sul-
“phurle acid is used, The Edison battery weighs
about half-as much as a lead ‘babtery for the
same output, and, in addition <iq; this, it wiu
save about fifty per cent. of its weight In tho
construction af tho truck itagit. “ePhe - battery:
dak Bi atlary
cannot be injured by overcharge eae not
deteriorate when. left disehac’ ‘otters acces.
sibillty to each ecli, makes “ble ‘tor ahy
cell to be romoyved, and’ giv ¢ twiee the
output or mileage of a leatl:; of the sate
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Pennsylvania Packet, 1771: Daily Advertiser, 1784
United States Gazette, 1789: The oldest Daily
Newspaper in America
Philadelphia
January twenty-first
29]0,
Mr, Thos, A, Edison
West Orange
New Jersey, wee ft
Dear Sir:
We believe you wil] be ins
terested in the attached clipping
which appeared in our issue of
January the twenty-first,
Please accept same with our
compJiments,
Yours very truly,
THE NORTH AMBRICAN
A! 7 ey /
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Advertising’ tlafiager.
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STORAGE. BATTERY CAR |
HAS SUCCESSFUL TEST,
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RUNS 20 MILES AN HOUR
Special Dispatch to The North American.
“WEST ORANGE, N. J, Jan, 20,
Testa wore made today of Thomas A.
Edison's storage battery car on the
tracks of the Publ Servica Company.
Among the interested observers were a
number of men of the Public Service
trolley systems, and thoy agreed with
Edison thet ho has made great strides
toward the perfection of o street car
that can bo run cheaply and practically
without the use of current wires,
When tho first tests were mado Edison
was not present, so confident was he
that .ho would get a favorable report
from tho mon who ran the car. He
told them to go ahead, and he would
not leave his work. in the Jaboratory,
Later, however, ho visited the scene of
the experiments and took a ride in
the car, ‘ : ‘
As he rode over tho stretch of track
Edison waa tooking out of the car wine
dow, He saw two youngsters pointing to
the car going along without a trolley pote,
Edison siniled, and turning to the men
who sat nt his site, satd: /Whon you
were a kid Ilke those your eyes were just
as big when you saw your first car going!
along tho street without horses, /Those ,
youngsters will Hve to see the day when i
thero will be no cars but this kind on the!
tracks of street railways,” < ‘i
The,car attained a maximum speed of-
twenty ‘miles an hour, and reaponded fn!
every way to the tests put upon {t. The!
experimental car ts twenty-six feet long |
and soven fect six‘ inches wide. It is |
equipped with two 7%4-horgepower motors, |
and charged to the full capacity of the
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weighs five tons, or halg of that of tho!
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10 FIFTH AVENUE TELEPHONE
EDISON BUILDING GRAMERCY 1352
NEW YORK
New York, Jan.21,1910.
Ur.Thomas A.Edison,
Orange, N.J.
My dear lir.Edison;
In accordace with my understand-
ing with you on the building of electric onmibusses
to operate with your storage batteries I have about
completed the organization of my syndicate to back
me in the matter. We are going to push the building
of the first demonstrating bus and hops to havo it
ready for your inspection and test by the first
part of May.
I have found it necessary, in order to
satisfy the interests, to incorporate a small com
pany vhich we propose to call the "Electric Onmibus
and Truck Company" wrtese—yorswere—rieling.to—het.
wowcall it the lidisonElostuicOmibuc Company.
Awaiting your favor and approval of these
matters I am
Yours respectfully,
c. J. FIELD
10 FIFTH AVENUE
EDISON BUILDING
NEW YORK
New York, Jan.21,1910.
My.Thomas A.Edison,
Orange, N.d.
My dear Lhr.Edison;
In reference to the bus motors I
understand from Nr.Beach that you propose later to
take up tho building of the motors for the cars and
busses for us.
In the mean time I assume that I will have
to purchase G.E. or other similar motors for our
first bus.
The size motors I have settled on have a
normal capacity of 30 Amperes and 75 Volts at
730 RPM, with 200% overload capacity for a half
hour. This is the size and type on the plan I last
presented with two motors for a bus with direct
drive by single chain to each wheel.
Yours respectfully,
TELEPHONE
GRAMERCY 1352
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I hand you horewith letter from Mr,
William J, Rich, the Examiner in the Patent office
who has charge of the Storare Rattories, and vho
hes acted on almost all of our Battory Applications,
he has always been thoroughly interosted in the Edison
patterics, and I wish therefore, if you have any reports
or printed matter that I could sond him rolating to
your experimont you will let mo have thom, end I will
forvard thom to him,
of course I do not mean anything personal
oy confidential in cheracter, but anything thet you would
be setisfied to have the genorel public Imow. I think
it elways wool] to cultivate friondly relations with the
Petent Uffice Ufficials,
Yours vory truly,
Vice President,
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Mr, Williem J, Rich,
Room 175, Patent office,
Vashington, D.C.
My dear Mr, Nieh;
Your fevor of the 22nd inst, hes beon
recoived. I havo not kept very close track of the
experimonts Which have boen made in installing Edison
BZattorios in stroot cars, and I only know very genorally
what these experiments are.
I underotand however, that Mr. Edison
hao been able to construct a streot car of such great
lightness, that when equipped with « full supply of
Edison Batterics, tho entire outfit weighs only about one °
half us much as an ordinary motor car. And this is dono
without o sacrifice of strength and durability. A number
of Railxoad Companies hava shown © great deal of interest
in this enterprise, and the ontire proposition seema to
be one thot appeals very strongly to them,
Ihave referred your letter to Nr, Beach
who hes charge of these experimonts, and have ceked him
to'lot mo have any renorts or publications relating to the
Page 2,
Mr, William J, hich,
Jan, 24, 1910,
same, and if ho doos so, I will sona them down to
you. I Will give Mr. Raison your good wishes, which
I mow he will appreciate,
Yours very truly,
Vico Progident,
HH
“Mp JOHN OP TULETAER,
Le 5 Now York , Janz, 28, 1910
COPY.
Caldwoll, Ne J.
Hy DEar Sir:
. Mrs Faison has referred to mo for attention
the clipping sent him in reforonce to yoar proposed Omtbussos
aromd Caldwelly
‘.¢ ‘The writor is in charge of tho building
of busses operated with the Idison battery for the service you
require and I would be pleased to take the matter un with you.
I could meet you at my office by appointment or #0 out to Caidwoll
and meet you and your people with the plans of om busses’
We have just what you want . Capacity 25 to
ar) passengers, & pay as you enter go the moterman can operate
Itsy x
You have a splonted. dletrict there to operate
fron & good route & I would bo pleased to take tho mattor up. with
you at your a convenience
,
Yours very traly.
(signa) Cy Js Field. ; eo are ey
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February 4, 1910.
PERSONAL
Mr. Frank L. Dyer,
Edison Laboratory,
Orange, N. J.
My dear Mr. Dyer:-
I beg herewith to enclose a letter from
Mr. Willard P. Reid, which I would ask you to note and
return to me, and to keep the contents confidential. If
Mr. Field is the same one to whom Mr. Reid refers, it would
be wise for you to have the information.
Kindly return the (remorse as sonn as
you have finished with it.
Yours very truly,
WSM-RBS
ENCLOSURE: -
[ENCLOSURE]
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'Tuoman A, Enison, W. Be Maria, a. RANDOLON, AWWirara Dy laser
PUwRIDENT, VIG PHT, THAME, HHOUKTANY,
= The Edison Portland Cement @.
Inte gf ont’ We P, O. Address, STEWARTSVILLE, N. J.
Telegraph, Freight and Passenger Station, NEW VILLAGE, N. J.
Peandition ty Nuc) yt wils
The potlce found ‘that the slot 1.
had been ‘opencd with o ,heavy bigthy
amith’s file. . . “Db,
* EDISON RAILWAY FORMED, [*'°.°.
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+|Company to Employ New. Storage Sys- secalli
tem Encouraged by Jersey Towns, | Cowle
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2 Special to The New York Times, you y
MONTCLAIR, N, J, Jan. 31—A. tempo-| OPK,
rary organization of the Caldwell com-| “Di
horge, | pany that fs. planning to operate a strent | COW!
spent | ar line Jn that section, equipped with the} «15;
well | Edison storage battery, has heen effected | Co
‘ive In| by the selection of Willlam Shears, a
contractor, as President; Witbur B, Guild
1: his} Vico President, and John J. ‘Ottenhelmer | ler's
gn to Secretary, ‘he interest in the project Is[,"N
eclde| such that it is sald that $100,000 can be| {hat
= the | raised 1¢ necessary, St Fletde 2. rop- ske
¢pera-| resentatlve-of Thomann Edison, Ras | photc
f municated with Secretary Otten-| Nett, -
> dis-{helmer saying that Edison can furnish | Gow,
nflrm j just tho atyle of vehicle required—n " pay- 7
tlends | as-you-enter’ car which could be pore aid, a
iy tOl ated solely-by the man In charge of the] “Di,
hi 3 motor, ¢ | ao a of yo.
: y Tho Cedar Grove Improvement Associa-| tho plc
id. tlon has Just been Informed by the Publlo] “1d
Service Raflway Company: that tho ser-]| Att
fortys| vice company has abandoned the project} WwW. Hy
which| to run a trolley railway to Cedar Grove, | tho cc
1 th and Cedar Grove residents aro - anxious |.by twe
a the} that the new Hno be oxtended to. their | resont:
t has| town to give needed connections with| who i
& Cole! Caldwell, Verona, Montelalr, and other. was o1
serva-| towns, 7 . | the ot!
i te 3 destre¢
" MAILLARD'B BREAKFAST COCOA the or
‘R. . .| Makes for health and strength: Quickly miged,j of tho
Ady. | delicious, pure, and very easily digestod.—Adv.| Tr
c. J. FIELD
10 FIFTH AVENUE TELEPHONE
Edison BUILDING
NEW YORK
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GRAMERCY 1382
New York, 2/11/10.
iy. F. L. Dyer
iy dear Sir:
Your favor of the 7th & #1285
addressed to Ur, Beach has beon reforred to the writor to ans.
I enclose you copy of letter sent to Mr. John Oppenheimer of
Caldwell, N. J. I” references to Busses not cara.
The matter had been referred to mo
by ir, Hatann jee you probably Imow that I am desighige an Om
nidus to operate with the Edison Battery & then going ahead to
manufacture them the same asm Beach is on the Cars’ lr. Beach
& I are working in harmony on these matters’;
I have been working on the mat
ter for about 3 months & submiting the plans to Mr. Edison
from time to time & saw him last just befor he left for tho
south.
ly full name is Cornelius J. Field,
Thave lived in Brooklyn for a number of years & have been
connected with the old Edison interests as Chief Ing. of the
Edison United lifg. Cov then as Mer ~ of the Brlyn Edison Co.
&& . THe Caldwell people put the article in question in
the Bimes ,I have been very carefull as to what I have said
on thse matters. V8 are proposing to put the matter into
a small Co.’ with the approval of Mr; Edison‘.
I will go out monday & see y)
on thgate & the matter of room here (WH cohesl. AK Ack
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[ATTACHMENT: R.G. DUN & CO. TO
EDISON MANUFACTURING CO.]
sion
; Lira Please note 1. NAME, BUSINESS and ADDRESS correspond with your inquiry.
RV.(See RB X)
CORNELIUS 7, PIRLN--------4---4---- Bo meni ene enna BROOKLYN, W.¥.
_ 198 Pebruary 25th, 1910...Formerly 1294 Tean St.
Ne resided at the above address but the house is at present vacant
and is "To-let." Te is arsed ahout forty-seven and has heen identi-
fied with various enterprises for several years past and aprarently
- has not been successful in accumulating means. He was at one time
of the Field Engineering Co., at 143 Liberty St., New York City and
was supposed to have owned the bulk of the stock of that corporation
which failed. From time to time he allowed judgments to be entered
againet him. In the early part of 1902 he became President & Treas-
urer of the General Motor Car Co., at 2359 West 50th St., New York
City, a wew York State corporation capitalized at $10,000. That con-
cern did a storage and repair business and also acted as selling °
agents- In July 1902 he claimed that that company had a paid in
capital of $10,000 but declined further details. He was at one
time connected with the DeNion Bouton Motorette Co., of Rrookiyn for
. several years. We is a mechanical engineer by profession and some
years ago had an office at 39 Courdtlandt St. On October 18th, 1902
he filed a voluntary petition in bankruptcy, the schedule showing
Liabilities of $30,189 and assets of $2,492. te received his dis-
charge on necember Sth/ 1902. At this time nothing whatever is
learned regarding him or his affairs or where he is at wesent lo-
cated and he is thought to have but little if any financial respons-
ibility.
(N Q) C.U.M.
3700
[ATTACHMENT: BRADSTREET CO. TO
EDISON MANUFACTURING CO.]
4~-3-2-10--Con,
STHED GORNMLIUS Tutt ete Hi Soria eal eee oo BROCELYY h-¥.
Age wbout 47; married, . Formerly res ided--1394
; ‘ ; Bean gt,
we is a mechanical engineer and wag originally in the employ of
the Mdison @lactric Illuminating co, of Brooklyn ,W.Y¥, severing his
Connection there in 1889, we hes sinte haen interested in nunerous
ventures individually .ang with ofhers,nut does not appear £0 have
me4 with any puccess fo speak of and on a number of occasiong has
been made u Judpment daptor, He formerly resided ut this address,
his wife heing the Tepubed owner of the property ,but she recently
Sold if and the fumily moved away ebouk o jaonth ag0,the only uddress
he leaving in the neighborhood wus a business one,of the adigon
ifg,Go. at, 10-5th , Avenue jhe York City ,wrunhattan.. Ke ig aid quite
Capuble in hig ling ,bu4 repreagents no athuchuble responsibility and
the wore congervy tive wuthorities would encourege him to buy for .
Cash,
C880 SSO A She ea Be ~March 2,1910,
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THOMAS A, EDISON : FRANK L, DYER E, G. DODGE A. F, MILLER
President Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Secretary-Treasurer
EDISON haa Battery Co.
(¥ /
ORANGE, NEW JERSEY March 8, 1910.
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Confidential J hawt aoe Be egg “(
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison, gin al weer
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Fort Myers, Florida.
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Dear Mr. Edison: as cea see oe
4. never puck ¢ af bos
You mow, of course, vos oy man ss aaset) oe ornelius
Sid we Oe
J. Field is doing some work apparent rere tne direction an& in
Sie cae: evtun/ CoO
co-operation with Mr. Beac ‘In the |aeve foondat fe) ibuses for
use with the Edison battery. He is located a at the
4 Hew York Office. The enclosed leottor from Mr. Reid, datod
“6
“February and, to tir. Mallory was sent me with the nowspaper clip-
ping referred to, and upon receiving at I immediately dic whet I
could to investigate the matter. You will see that Hr. Reid
does not have a very high opinion of Field's honesty and ability.
Upon receiving this letter I- immediately wrote Mr. Beach:
and asked him if the Pield in question was the. Cornelius J. Field
thet ‘te: Roid speaks of, and I enclose ir. Field's lotter to, me
of February llth in which he speaks about himself.
I also have had a man ateonnt to interview tho men to
whom Mr- Reid refers, end he found that ex-Surrogate Church
would not talk on the subject and that Mr. Packard was away from
town. Mr. Cochen, however, without hesitation and in strong
lenguage referred to Field as a thief and utterly unreliable and
unworthy of confidence, and statea that such is his reputation
with all who havo had business dealings with him. this, however
?
T. A. Edison. (2) 3/8/10.
may be a very biasod opinion, beceuse I find thet the three men
to whom hir. Reid neues Lost about $300,000 in an Auto-Stage
venture that Field got them into.
I heve also had commercial reports obtained, which I
enclose, ond which are not very favorable.
To-day while in the New york office I find that Picld
is receiving mail addressed "Edison Blectric Omibus & Cab Co.”
and that ho is having stock printed for a corporation called
"The Electric Omnibus g Truck Co." with $100,000 capital.
It looks to me es if this man might be a sourge of
trouble to you in tho future. I cortainly think that it would
be most unwise to allow him to go ahead and organize @ corporation
with its headquarterg at our Office in Wew York and with his
apparently close agsogiation with you as & ready means of dispos-
ing of the stock. pergonally I do not think that you should
continue to have him go ahead with the work because a man of this.
reputation cannot bo a jeuakable person tO associate with the
Edison battery.
From what 1 gan hear about Beach he ig none too reli-
able, but this other man I think is a very dangerous person to
have around, at least go’ closely associated with us. I feel that
as sure as fate he will be using your neme to exploit his schemes,
if he is not already aoing so. ;
‘If you agree with me I will heve a talk with him and
tell him thet we consider it Undesirable that he should be lo-
cated at our New York office and thet he must get an office
Somewhere else, and I will impress upon him the ebsolute importance
of standing on his om bottom so far as his work is concerned
and that he can only announce thet the only relation he has to
T. A, Bdisen. (3) 3/8/10.
you is 68 & possible purchaser of Edison batteries when his
Bus is fully desvelopoed.
I thank this vould be a very moderate way to treat the
situation. I 40 not like to say anything further, because I do
not Imo hew fally you looked into the matter before taking Mr.
Field on.
Yours very truly,
CY
FLD/ TW
Enc- Peacck ZK. Hipan—>
‘THOMAS A, EDISON FRANK L. DYER E. G. DODGE H. F. MILLER
President Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Secretary-Treasurer
_-Epison Storace Battery Co.
hasaualaiisictotitatyi: +
Please refer to
Telephone, 908 Orange BF cee as Sy oom to ao
ORANGE, NEW JERSEY March eleven
1 9 °~«2W 0
Mr. FP, L. Dyer:
I hand you herewith your letter of the 28th
ult., addressed to Mr. Edison, and have carefully noted
his comments. I understand perfectly what Mr. Edison
wants, and we are doing all we can to produce flake as he
desires it. I feel satisfied that there is a slight im-
provement in each lot that we get out. The loading weight
on the last two lots of flake has been corredted; lot 31
was 4.2 and lot 32 was 4.3. I would state that the last
report from Holland shows that the tubes are higher than
they have been during my time.
Ge, fat /
Telephone, 908 Orange LP
[ENCLOSURE]
Bats Fi | Soran
THOMAS A, EDISON FRANK L. DYER’ E, G. DODGE H. F, MILLER
_, Grenier Vice-President and General Counsel General Manager Secretary-Treasurer
~Evison Storace Battery Co.
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ORANGE, NEW JERSEY Feb. 28, 2910.
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Dear Mr. Edison: tt pe ae ee ie mses Os
Your ee ong o ° Be ese of slat na Plake in
yet & Gy a.fee
the battery was duly received, Sat at the time Holland was avoy
a mas A. Edison
from the Laboratory for a couple of deys over Washington's Birthe
aey and in some way or other the matter was overlooked. I have
taken up this question with Holland end beg to ohelosé his report,
from which it would appear that the situation is not as bad as
you feared and: that so far ag he csn tell tho flake is coming ag
flet as can be expected.
I also have taken up the matter with ir. Dodge, 2nd he
has shown me his report to you of tho 18th inst. with your: endorae~ 1
ments thereon. This report wes evidently recoived by you after
you wrote mo, end since you do not say cnything reg arding the flake,
I assume that you are not so uneasy over tho situation. ib.
Dodge tells me thet he is doing 211 thet he can to get the flakes
as flet as possible ‘and thet there ip < absolutoly no intention ox
his part to omit doing anything thet you heva instructed him
to do. He says that in some of the cells on which you have yee
celyed reports the poor showing is probebly dus to another odatse,
Which ho’ will write you about. fully, immodintoly.
You, gery truly,
Phere KI POR ass [x
PLD/IWw
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vlerch 25, LOL.
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fe. Gorneliup J. Mield,
10 Fi2th Avo
y dear oir:
rs
Ioan cdvined by iy. Edileon thet he wanld profor to
ave you opteblish your office sonewheve else than at To. 10 Mith
ave., booouco he is af you continnse to be loested thero
sciscto betwee you end him will not be
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the omict reloatior
mderstocd by the public, particularly as I widerstand you axpeot
to form a commenyg for the oxplhoitetion of your cloctric busas.
tH
undorstend it, the only veletion between you and liv. Taisen
ac to the omvent thet iv the bur is developed by you and »roves
to ba a comversinl success ve cre
batterion for operating the cone. Your ‘boing at Ho. 10 Fifth
vb Lead the public to umepose that Mr. ndison had some
closer connection to your onterprise than this. It is very
imoortant thet his position should not be misinterpretod ond I
think therofore thet it would bo very mich better if you moved
your office to somo other placa. Of course such e change vould
not in ony wey affect tho arrangement which io. Edison hes with f
~ 4 te
you. I heve no desiro to bo miduly prossing in the matter, but ba
I would like to heve you arrenge to movo not leter then April 15th
nor.
Yours vory truly, ff
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THOMAS A, EDISON FRANK 1, DYER E. G. DODGE H. FP. MILLER
Peestent Vice-President and General Counses General Manager Secretary-Treasurer
Epison SToRAGE Battery Co.
i
Telephone, 908 Orange ORANGE, NEW JERSEY iferch 50, 1910.
meee
Cave U Ca be ere en, ae Ca o
~ LA UY Mlk we GHG,
Fort ilyors, Florida, ~ ~ Ra, [deo Gere
vers
Dear Mr. Edison: gat pre “f LWA se
In accordance w- tth your requ page Negte em O- Oud
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Ur ede lua
Field. asking him to givo up his quarters at the te pene office
not later than April 15th. We camo in eae me thet
tho only people who were interested with nee scheme who
owmed stock in his company were his father, his brother and tv70
or three personal friends. He said that they had no intontion
to attempt to sell stock until the bus had been fully tried out.
He said it was a very groat convenionce for him to bo located noar
ir. Beach because he was able to exchenge ideas with Boach and they
had an understanding betwoen themselves under which Beach could
uso Pleld's ideas on cars and Picld could use Beach's ideas on
buses. He also said that his Lottor paper and stationery was
all printed with the address on it and thet it would pe some ox-
pense to move. His finel request was that he bo allowed to stay
at No. 10 Fifth Avo. until the first bus wes completed, which
he said would not be later than the ond of May.
He scoemed to have some inkling of what the troublo Wag
because he said that under no circumstances had he attompted to
take advantago of your name and had always been most careful to
explain his exact relations to any prospective purchaser.
Are you willing thet he should stay until the end of
f. A. Bdison. (
tw
3/50/10.
Mey, or shell I insist thet no should leave by Avril 15th?
I am not supposed to mor why you wentod him to go,
so that I told him I would put the hatter up to you.
Yours very iruly,
FLD/IWy ee, aise ge Ze Fee
(uskeynobete,
March 51, 1910.
llr. Cornelius J. Fiold,
16 Pfth Ave. ,
Now York.
iy door Sir:
Wo have just rocoivod a letter to-day from the Dichl
Manwlacturing Co., of Elisebethport, molcing inquiries concorning
the Nlectrie Omibus 2 Bruck Go., in which thoy say:
‘Wo are wider the improssion thet the Compeny is good,
boing becked wo understand by Ir. Edison."
This is oxactly tho situetion that I foerod and sihioh I
presuno Mr. Edison also possibly onticipatod. Tho fect that you
aro located at No. 10 Pifth Ave. woulda naturelly load noople to
puppose thet lar. Edison in somo way hed fig root connootion with
you. I understood from you yootorday that you wore always caro-
ful in telling ovoryone oxectly what your connection with Mr.
Edison woo, but you can see thet in thia oase tho wrong impression
has beon created. i do not think it is foir to Mr. Edison that
this situation should continue, end acting on my orm responsibility
I must insiot thet you should male errangomonts for loaving our
office not later thon April 15th. Of courge you undorstand that
I heve no po sonal fooling whatover in this matter, but am only
actuated by e dosire to protect Hr. Edison's intorests as far as
possible.
Yours vory truly, He
BLD/ TW a _Vioo-"residont.. es
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Cc. J. FIELD
10 FIFTH AVENUE SS eroveial :
EDISON BUILDING Ete.
NEW YORK ee Aol
New York, 3/31/10.
Mir? Thos’ A. Edison,
Fort Mayer, Flo.
lily dear Kr. Edison:
ir. Dyer has notified me of your
wish for me to chacge iny office from 10 Fifth Ave. I went
out & talked the matter over with him & he said he would
write you & for me to do the same.
I want to appeal to your fairness
to let me stay hore ti11 I complete the first Bus & try
it out, which will not be later than the early part of
June. :
In reference to putting the Bus °11
business into a Co. I have only done so in a small way,
{n order to protect the intereste of these who are backing
me up in the matter)& privatly.; The ones in the matter
with me are my Father CV R. Field a retired Real Estate
operator; my brother, F. H. Field acooporation lawyer
& 2 personal friends one of whome I introduced you too
We are not offering the stock outside
for sale nor do we fropose to till afkesdeveloping a
successful”. Bus & then only privatly.
We are running matters on a strictly
business bassis. Our work is all being done for us in
outside shops & our assembling also so as not bother your
works at o1l.Mvery thing is being tammcc ordered in our
namo.’ There is no connecting you with it in any way, except
in so far as furnishing the batteries.
Beach Car business is in a Cov similar
to mine. We are working together on business & engineering
matters & it 1s a great advantage I think to us & the
Battery interests to have our location at tho same place’
I have an oppertunity of making a good
future fo%myself & also a large user fob the EdisonBattery
& all I ask is an oppertunity to make good on this first
car & then move my business to the works where I am build
ing them? It can make no serious difference, as I see , to
pospone action ti11 I complete & try out the first Bus in
dune, when I am sure it will prove satisfactory to yous
Awaiting your further commands, I am,
Yours respectfully? Fil, ;
R. H. BEACH
‘ 10 FIFTH AVE., TEL, 1352 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS
(USING ROISON STORAGE BATTERIES)
April 1, 1910.
sir F.L.Dyer,
Viee-Tresident, Edison Storege Bettory Compeny,
ORANGE, Wd.
wy dear Dyer;
Ihave been thinking over the possibility of c guarantea which
the Bettery Company could moke to its customers. Cf course i am aware
of the fret that ir Edison objects to moking cny euarentee at all, and
I guess it is «© safe proposition to sey that all guerantees rre bad;
perhaps I might go so far as to say thet they ere the fruitful sil
in which principally dissension and heart-ache tihrive.
. However, it is a eustom in the storage battery business to
moke some sort of a guerantee; in fact it is e custom of tho electrical
business in general, end I might go further and state that it is the
practice in 011 machinery manufacturing tredes to meke some kind of
a guarantee of life and performance.
I enclose herewith a suggestion as to the form of guarantce
which it aprears to me es though The Edison Storage Battery Company
would be perfectly justified in making, snd unless I have mede some
mistake in the technical wording of this, it does not obligate the
re) oT
Hw
hav
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Company to anything. You will notice that qualified the
form of guarantee to the effect that the ovmer of the bat tery i
must follow the instructions as prescribed; this means thet he must
follow these instructions absolutely; olso that he must show to the
satisfoction of the Company thet these instructions heve been Lollowed,
Now, of course, he will not follow these instructions and it will
cad
See eeeiSaentthts es Ae
v3 PRD-2.
furthermore be absolutely imvossible for the ovmer to be «ble to show
or prove that he had followed the instructions, even if he hed, but TI
am inclined to think that if we could have this snuarantee printed
end eecomveny every set of battery, it vonld cntirely eclinincte that
aveful difficulty wider which the selesman now labors.
I don't want you to think that I on “butting in" or offering
my “gratuitous advice” in this metter, but I constantly mect this
difficulty, end chile it is possible to sell batteries end cors without
1
Q guarantee, yet the customer doos fecl "that he ought to have something",
Tohave no doubt but that if the “Yorks sell a battery and it
should fail to perform every possible effort wowld be inde to do the
square thing, vhether there was any guarantees or not, but that is not
the point that Tam considering now. The point is that the Company
operating a lot of vehicles or a lot of cars, perticularly the Gencral
Moneagers or Purchasing Agents, must have at least something thet has
the excuse of « guarantee, in order to satisfy their board of direct-
ors, President, Stockholders or superior in authority as to whether
they heave exercised due diligence end serutiny in siving their purchase
the usual and proper business care.
I an not much of a lawyer, but this "thing" which I enclose
Ioen inclined to think vould do the business. It is very much Like the
Life insurance policies. Ordinarily the average person cannot tell
to
what their policies mean. I suppose very few Lawyers would bo able
tell the true meaning of a life insurance policy, and I suppose as a matter
of feet the policies do not mean much of enything, except that they satis-
fy the man thet wants to be insured, end somebody usually gets the money
when he dies; thet vas the idea I hed in mind in sketching out the
form for guarantee herewith. I did not intend that it should mean eny-
. a FID-5,.
thing, except that it relieves the seller of the battery from that very
unpleasant position of saying thet he simply cannot puerantee his owm
product.
Yours very truly,
(Enels) , ; h
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OD cece reece eee e cere e eee ee weer eee eb IO bearing the number. ....... ec eee ween
and hereby guerenteed against e1] defects of vorhmenship ond meterial,
and are furthermore guarantecé to receive and discherge current to
their normal rated capacity, which is.............., during © period
of three (3) years from the dete hereof, provided the printed instract-
ions vhich secompmy the bettery, end copy of which is attached hereto,
eve fulfilled. Should the bettery herein described fuil to perform,
as herein gueranteed to perfor, during the period above nomed, and
the buyer shows to our satisfection thet these instructions have been
complied with, this Comvany hereby agrees to replace the batteries
herein deseribed with new betteries of the same type and snecifications
as are herein set forth,
Edison Storage Bottery Comnany,
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ons think you, veme re fost that I vy; sbee your lace and made
v ee Yegea exe ALERY
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making of’ a sien D very, nial db reey much more
oer MF eR-tie ee Caevge
store very much ee Sey sloed £ than phe 2 “fe Bast) id.
understand you tte ie accomplished it cha was gi demonstration a few
investment in
gongl er iron Ore in
quettes. Unf
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days ago in a Detroit Eleotrdo which pleas ery much. I am.told. they
use your 8 torage battery and that it has a cpfacity for running from 160
to 200 miles on one charge; that it is prac ically ‘indestructible and
can be allowed to run down entirely before recharging: or can be recharged
at any period without injury.
I would like you to confirm the truth of these claims and ade
vise me whether I would be wise in ordering one of these machines. I have
great difficulty dn walking, and it would be of infinite value to me to
have a machine that met the claims that are put out for this one. The
price of the car is high. The car 4s: $1700. with $600. added: for veur store
age battery if used. I would be greatly Andebted to you if you would ade
vise me in this matter and shall be very glad to own @ machine which is
the result of your genius.
Very truly yours,
ae Oe SRN NE Tee fare tere rome SS Raf ® s 2 A " 2 ae RN ye So I nL a a Oat: ecg epee ae | a2 cat gu arth sate 4
Anvil 5, 19lc.
Mo. GR. WH. Booch,
LO Blfth Ave.,
Tew York.
iy dear Mr. Beach:
Yours of the Ist inst. has been received, on
vhe subject of guarantoeing Ndison batteries, ond I am gled to
have you veite me concerning this mueitter. AG oll times I an
amuxious to voceive suggestions end edvice from everyone.
The form of punrantoe you propose is substanticlly what
Ihave hed in mind if the time comes whon ir. Edison would be
willing to make ony kind of a Suarenypo. uy only criticion, and
in fact the only difficulty I have over hod in thinking over the
nettor is that the ordinery purchaser might consides the Bucvontoo
50 guarded os not to be worth vory much. of course I ecennot do
anything definitely witil In. Edison roturns, but this question
is bocoming moro ox less acute and IT propose to take wp the matter
with him then ho gots back. He is so thoroughly acquainted with
the oxact situation thet I havo no doubt when hoe is convineod that
a guerentoe should be made ho will hevo somo suggostion that will
oxactly covor the point.
Yours vory truly,
PLD/LWY Vico-Prosident.
THOMAS A, EDISON
President
Telephone, 9O8 Orange
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FRANK L. DYER ;
E.G. DODGE H. OF. MILLE
Vice-President and General Counsel :
General Manager Seeretary-Treasurer
Epison Storace Battery Co.
ORANGE, NEW JERSEY April 8 :
19210 :
Mr. PL, Dyer:
There is a slight change in the figures that
I gave you, owing to the fact that the record of cells
to be shipyed was dated Monday, and the orders on hand
dated this morning. The figures now stand as follows:
Cells on hand...... 7935 Cells on hand 7935
Shipping In. Orders " " 6391
structions....e... 1280
Bal..... .1544
Bal,on hand........ 6655
Mr, Barrett of the Adams Express Company tells me that he
will give me shipping instructions for about 2600 cells
next week, leaving a balance of 4055, T have promises of
shioping instructions for about 1000 more cells next week,
This leaves 3055 cells, which added to this week's outnut
of 1400 cells, makes 4455 cells on hand,
Judging by the way the orders have come in this week
we would be making a big mistake if we cut down the output.
We have received orders for 2282 cells, and I have every
reason to believe that we will receive more orders from
manufacturers next week, which with what we will sell to
replace lead batteries, from now on we will continue to
receive urders for more cells than we will produce,
YL
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: R.H. BEACH
10 FIFTH AVE., TEL, 1382 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS
(Cusine EOISON STORAGE BATTERIES)
April 12, 1910.
nr Frenk L.Dyer, :
Vice-President, Edison Storage Battery Co-,
Orenge, Nd.
Deer iir Dyer;
Referrine to your fsvor of the 5th instent; 1 have worked
out another form of guarentee, which might be better than the one sent
with my letter of the lst.
The idea I had in mind in making up this form was to make it
avrear to be a letter thet lir Edison had written, and it would seem to
me such a letter vould avnenl strongly to the average buyer as a simple
end candid statement ond promise on the pert of the Battery Comya ny
to chsolutcly guarantee the battery, vhereas, in point of fact, it only
guarentecs the battery vhen the conditions of operation es per our in-
structions (which would accompeny the guarantee, ere complied with precisely,
I have consulted a very eminent jurist on this point, cnd he
assures me that unless the user could prove that he hed literally com-
plied with the printed end eccepted instructions, he could never recover
under such ¢ form of guarentee.
I hend it 4 you Herewith, for vhetever it may be worth,
i
m pon very truly,
Pd er e
gee “} y, Kirt
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EDISOW STORAGE BAVTERY COMPANY
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Dear Sir;
Ve heve teken from the a-4 Type of Bettery 500 discharges,
ecnivalent to 40,000, niles, and the bettery has improved in capacity
about 10 (ten percent). This bettery hes been in use constently
for two and c half yeers. ‘This result hes been accomplished by a cere.
ful end Literal compliance with the instructions and directions contein-
ed in our book of instructions. MThese instructions are readily wder-
stood end cen be followed by men of ordinary experience in handling
thines cleetrical. “hen these instructions are thus followed our batter.
ies will lest three years. ‘This we freely guarentee, ond furthermore
guarantee the bettery against feulty operetion thereof due to defects
of workmanship or meterial, end this guorantee will be made good if our
obligation to do so should erise, by renlacing the batteries sent to you
herewith with new batteries of the same type and specifications.
Yours very truly,
bi ee
Fre sident.
MILLER REESE HUTCHISON
ENGINEER
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PRINTING.
BINDING.
STRATFORD, NEW JERSEY
April 22, 1910
Mr, Thomas A, Edison, i ag 9: 6
Dear Sir:- Guretprs he
A sanpany has been formed, of which I am a mem.
ber, to promote a trolley line from Millville to Ocean City, N. od,
and we aro somewhat interested in your svorage batlery car, which
if .practioal we Would Like to install, Gan a committba see you,
and have ono hour of your time to discuss the matter next Thuraday
@pril 282
araiting your faver I an
Yeurs truly
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\* ir. Dyer: 4/25/10.
Mr. Beach stopped in to see you and said thet Mr. Edison
hed agreed to guarantee the battery for 600 complete dischargos
and that at the ond of that time tho rating would not be lowered
more than 10%, If the battery is not completely discharged
every time, the battery will show up all the better.
He said that the Railway people figuro that a car runs
about 25,000 miles a year, but that in reality, the average
would not be more than about 14,000 miles, so that he figures
that it would take about three years for tho 600 discharges.
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REFER TO THIN NUMER
IN YOUR REPLY
1a6t MEMORANDUM
ORANGE, N. i
\w Beo: 5/2/10. *
I hand you herewith a proposed form o? guercutes thet vag
wovred out youtorday, the idea boing to adept it in the form of a
Lattor to be written to any prospoctive user of Rainon battorings
for commercial trucks and who may require & giarantee, conseanont-
ly, tho ontroductory part will have to be modified to meot cach case.
Mr. Edis:n has concluded not to guerantec the betterios
for use with ploasure vohiclea, beeauso ho believes to do g0 wculd
result in endless complications, and I ao not understand thet this
is nocossary anyway.
) I wish you would take this proposed guarantee and ada
(2)
to it such instructions as are strictly necossary to bo followed
for the proper handling of the battery. Do this in collabora~
tion with fir. Holland. ,
I will be beck fron UVrenton ebewt 5:50 this afternoon
and I wish you would hevo this done so that we can tele it up with
Ur. Mdison at thet tine.
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PROPOSED GUARAUPEE
ae
Gentlemen:
Regerding the installation of Bdison Storage Betteries
you propose using with trucks furnished by the Co.
the Edison Storage Battery Co. Guarantees that such batteries for
& period of three years shall be capable of devoloping within
10% of the reted capacity of the battery (fype A-4 ampere
hours; Type A-6 ampere hours, and Type A-8 ampere
hours) when a roagonable ineroase ih the charging current is used;
and should the battery fall below such guerenteed rating during
a
aid period the Comvany will rebate to the pureheser 2 pro reta
amount of the list price corresponding to the unexpired portion of
the guerantecd period of three years, provided always, that. the
following instructions as to the handling and use of the battery
shell in a11 respects be carricd out, and that eccess to the bat-
teries shall be allowed ¢o the Company's inspector at all reason-
able times; and the Company agroes tc renew eny deteriorated ole-~
mont of the battery for one-half tho list price of the complete
battery.
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THE EDISON STORAGE BATTERY COMPANY guaranteés that a
certain Edison storage battery No.......,consisting
Of,eeeeeC@lls Typecsevs> naving a rated capacity of
vesessampere-hours, shall maintain at all times during
a period of......years from the......day eee
192 , an efficiency of not less than. .....per cent, of the
above rated capacity, provided that the instructions of
the Edison Storage Battery Company, relating to the care
and operation of the battery, are complied with and fol-
‘lowed, and provided further that the Edison Storage Battery
Company shall at all reasonable times be allowed access to
the battery for testing and inspection.
It is understood and agreed that the terms of this
guarantee will be comphied with by the Edison Storage Bat«
, tery Company replacing the defective battery with a new
battery of equal rated capacity.
It is further understood and agreed that in the event
of such replacement the purchaser shall pay to the Edison
Storage Battery Company a pro rata amount equal to the
proportion which the service obtained from the original
battery bears to the full term Of. .seeeeyears covered by
this guarantee,
c.
Memo.
Mr. BKcison vishes to heve »a report made on the Battery
Compeny mede by Mr. Lybrend es of April 50, 1910, and Lybrand has
been directed to make this report.
As soon as the report ie received, call a meeting of
the Battery Company stockholders and put the report beforo them.
The Battery Company owes Mr. Edison in the neighborhood
of $1,300,000, secured by promisry notes. Edison proposes either
(1) That the company's indebt .edness to him be covered
by new notes falling due in two years, or .
(2) That the capital stock of the Compeny be increased
to $2,500,000. This would mean an increase of $1,500,000, and he
would accept stock at par in payment for his claim. This would
wipe out this large debt of the Company and would leave upwards
of $100,000 in stock, which could be sold to provide cash.
Although Mr. Edison controls 75% or more of the stock, he wents
to have the minority stockholders perfectly satisfied in this
matter and wishes to leave to them if possible the decision as
to which course to adopt.
5/9/10.
Gite ae nek ee, ae
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TO TIE STOCKHOLDERS OF THE EDISON STORAGE BATTHRY COMPANY:
\ ei The ossential purpose of the proscnt meeting is to dis-
cuss ways end meens for the liquidation of Mr. Edison 's account
ageinet the Edison Storage Battery Compeny and to agree upon a
plan for doing so-
liv. Héison personally controls moxve then 75% of the
capital shook of the company ond could therefore decide tho ques~
tion himsel® end his decision in the mottox could be quostioned
only in case of fraud. Hevertheless, he dosives to have the
‘situation leid bofore oll of the stockholders in order that he
mey have tho bono?it of theiy advice oven though in justice to
himself? he may not bo eble to agree with their views. Tho
stockholdexs may, however, bo veminded of the Lact that all of
tho outside stock, omounting to 25% of the totel, was seoneniea
by iy. Edison as a bonus in connection with the sale of the bonds
of the company and docs not represent moncy invostod, at least
by the original outside gtockholdors. So Yar as the bonds off
the Compeny are coricorned, Imowing as we do the porfected condi-
tion of tho Edison battery and tho groat domand 1t must inevitebly
havo, thore is no roason for the slightoot uneasiness or doubt as
to the valuo of these socuritios.
The experimental developmont of the Edison Storage
Battory involved such enormous difficulties that if Ur. Hdison
nod had any idee as to their extont he probably would not heave
undertaken tho work. When the original bond issue was made, by
which a cash capital of $500,000 was provided, Mr. Edison folt
confident that that cepital would be sufficient to conduct all
(2)
experiments and put the bettery on the markt as a commercisl
proposition. It is not necossary to refor to the oxtent of
those experiments oxcept to say that thoy numbored many thou-
sands. As is well Imowm, the first form of battery that was put.
on tho market developed defects which were not anticipated, and,
elthough thet battery was superior to eny compoting device, it did no!
not realize Mr. Edison's expectations, and it was therefore with-
dravm and its menufaeture stonped, excopt to the extent of mak-
ing replacements. Hollowing the withdrawal of the first tyne of
battery from the meriket, a sreeter muanber of experiments vere
made, resulting in the production of the present perfected Edison
Battery, which hes nov been manufactured and sola for ebout 2
year ene which hes more then veelisged My. Eé¢ison's most ardent
hopes. whe intyodnetion of the new bites has no doubt beon
somewhat affected by the unfortunate experionce with the. cerlicr
type; and by the very vigorous ond in some cases questionable
methods of the Jenad Battery pooplo to prevent its introduction.
Furthermore, most of tha electric vehicles made in this count=y
were especially designed for lead battories and required modi+
fications to fit’ them most effectively for Raison potteries;
and, finally, wo found that many of the vehicle momufacturers
were bound by contrects to uso lood betteries only, but these
contracts are now oxpiring and nono, we believe, runs beyond
the prosent year. I an gicd to say, however, that the demand
for the now battory is slowly inereesing, electric vohicile mani
facturers ond other users are recognizing its morits end cre
designing thoir present modelo for its use. At the present
timo the output of the factory is equivalent: to about 160 A-4
cclls por day, o11 of which ere being sold, and the interest
(3)
Which is belng menifestod on all sides in the battery convinces
us thet the demand will very largely inercase within a short time.
Even at the rete of 150 A-4 cells per day, the Leetory is almost
-eblo to pey its operating and solling expences, including the cost
of menufecture, so thet with an inereace in tho buginces profiteble
results may be expectert.
At the presont tine, theretecre, the situotion of the
Edison Storage Battery Company is thot it is in possession of a
perfected storage bettoxy with all the petconts thereon, with
Seeret processes et its command and with a ‘tremendous oxperience
' that hes been acquirea during the past nino years together eiso
with a plont Lully equipped to turn out the batterics at oa suffi-
cient rato to mnko the business o profitable one es soon ag the
donend slightly increases. 468 to the ultimato snosees of the
enterprise woe do not entertain the Sli’ tent doubt.
The esspense in connection with the development of the
porfectod battery wo to the present point, including exporiments
and plont,with ite cauipment and for carrying on the businoss
Since the introduction of the bottery ebowt 2 yoar ago, has beon
upwards of 22,500,000, && appeers from tho report of Messrs.
tybrand, Ross Bros. & Montgomery, cortifiod public’ eccountants,
for the your onding Fobruary 28, 1910. On that date the Edison
Storego Battery Company owed ir. Raison $1,544,745.29 on open.
eccount for money advanced by My. Eéison to carry the enterprise
on and ovontually to realize something for the vtockholders.
Since that dete the amount hes incronsed somewhat, so thet on
Junc 30, 1910, with intorost, 1+ was $1,998,276.86. the
question now for consideration is, how shall this account be
liquidated? Two plens hove beon suggestod tontatively by Mr.
(4)
Edison, eithor one of which ho is willins bo accopt.
{1) @he Company might sive interest boaring notes to
Mr. Edison for the amount of the’ indobtodness, payable in two or
threo years Prom date,
(2) The eapitel stock of the Comony mips be incronged
acditional issue of 32,500,000 and his debt liqaideted Dy
Wa og
Ne a fy paying stock at ver.
Wo put those plans before the stockholders in ordor
7 Pp
that they mey be discussed by then.
Respectully submitted,
FID/IvwW Vico-Presi dent.
May 10, 1910.
ie. George fT. Dyer,
Navy Department,
Washington, D. C.
My dear Goorge:
iy. Edison hes requestod me to find out.the names
of the concerns in this country who manufacture submarine boets.
Have you any records. in the YVavy Derertment thet would give this
information. If so, I will be very much obliged if you will
make a list of these concerns for me.
Yours,
PLD/Iwy
“AIABEC EDARY“ANO'INTERNATIONAL CODES USED ADDRESS ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO US ANDO NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.
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Edison Labratory,
Menlo Park, New Jersey.
Gent lemen:—
Referring to the article by Walter MAY 13 910
E, Holland in the April 28th edition of the hia Hy
"Electrical World", we beg to inquire if you
are now prepared to manufacture or furnish
Storage Batteries for Industrial Locomotive
purposes. If so, kindly advise if you could
have a representative call within the near future.
Yours truly,
OLIVER CHILLED PLOW WORKS.
Asse
Purchasing Agent.
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FREDERIO R, KHLLOGG, Puestverr
INO. I. B. OORINLL, Vicz-Pren, & Taran, OSOAR B. SMITH, Ja., Seoerarny
MORRISTOWN, N. J, May 17th 1910. ; L£
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison, see Untra w ne
Orange, Go hee +s afer
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Dear Sir: C fr Tins ag i Se be £
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Our local traction company now have a franchis through rae
one of the main stroets of Morristown ending at the o oat Park " ens ie
the center of the town. They will soon make apeiaetien for. Vie
eis
mission to lay their tracks around the park and so onf{to 2 thetest tT
a. Jeu be al pie
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in ridding the park and some of the main strost# lof pol oe it is’
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road station. As the town has succeeded after maby Was!
cra aed
ew trt, erry
the park without the use of poles, and we beg Boone ro the ae oe
a &
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demonstration of your storage battery has . provedpracticable for
ce pence.
very much desired that the company shall operate their sah oraf nd fe L .
this purpose and what the cost of installing a car with such ar-
rangement would be.
Thanking you for your kindnoss and any exprossion of
Very tr yo ; '
cé-. resident.
opinion or suggestion, we are
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Own ‘Disa PRost FULTON BuILpING, HUDSON Terwiwar
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TELKYHONE 8480 CouTLannT
Dear Sir:-
Mr. Underwood has deteiled to me your conversa-
tion With him with rererence to your storage battery propos-
ition. He is very much interested in it, and I also feel
a considerable interest in it and wish that your hopes may
be realized. I shall be very glad to go over with a
suitable representative and Look at it on any day it is
convenient for you. Any day next week will be satisfactory
to me.
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Mr. Thos. A. Edison,
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My Dear Mr. Edison:- : Cea
On my return home to-day I find your
letter of May 23rd, and have noted the contents.
Replying to the suggestion that I might
be too 014 to take up such a subject, I have only to
say that if an old fellow like you can invent or pro-
duce a battery, I guess I would be in the running if
I undertook to sell it. However, I would be barred
from attempting to become interested in it, since I
am already very largely interested in the best lead
battery ever made, and it is my purpose to give the
energy necessary to make this a success before I would
tackle any new proposition.
Do you remember in one of our talks in
the long ago at old 65 Fifth Avenue, when I asked you
your opinion of the storage battery you replied that
you did not mow much about it, but that you never hed
"much luck with wet electricity". That suggestion had
the effect to keep me out of wet electricity for a great
many years, but now that I am in it and from your letter
I find that you, too, are dabbling in "wet" electricity,
the incident struck me as a little funny.
IT am going to accept your invitation to
come over and look at your battery and have you, person-
ally, tell me the story of its possibilities, but the
real purpose of my visit will be to see and talk with
you. Do you expect to be at the works for any length
of time, or will you be scurrying away to some seashore
or mountain resort ? I am going to make this trip over
there very soon, that is, within the next two or three
weeks, and if you are not going to be on the job your-
self, advise me, and I will postpone the trip until such
time as I will be sure to meet you.
Hoping that your health and behayjor ea
good as that of myself, I remain,
Very truly yours, ( ie SS
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ADDRESS YOUR REPLY TO A, B. EMERY. ASSISTANT MANAGER, VELARDENA, DGO.,, MEXICO, v4
AMERICAN SMELTING & REFINING Co. ,
AMERICAN SMELTERS SEcuRITIES Co. ou
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GEO, C, KAUFMAN, GENL. MANAGER,
NORTHERN DIVISION SOUTHERN DIVISION
W.M, ORURY, ASST, MGR. A.B, EMERY, ABST, MGR.
SANTA BARBARA, GHIH., MEX, VELARDENA, 0G0, MEX, Meigrdotin » Purengo.. es
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Gentlemen;
T have recently beon advised that you magutpe typ 6 pkapage
battery suitable to be used for supplying current to an alagtrig tego-
motive. We have @ narrow guage railroad about 20 miles long, opera-
ting over 3-1/2% grade at this plant, and if it is feasible to operate
a locomotive supplied by storage battery mounted on the locomotive, we
should prefer considering this type of Haulage aqitipment rather than
the stoam locomotive. We haul about 14 ompty cars up this grade,
edbhi bY WaLBHing abort 22,700 1bs. We use 40 lb. rails on a 36"
HAW
Yours very traly,
Cnr Od.
A’Gtotant Manager,
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interested in anything that concerns Mr Bender 0"
am sure he will be glad to make eyere |personal effort
carry out Mr. Edison's wishes.
I am sailing for Europe next Thursday - the 9th -
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@8 s00n as may be convenient.
Truly yours,
Irvtax Witharne
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Regarding the daily reports which are received from
‘the Edison Storage Battexy Coe, it vould help me a good deal to
understand these reports if you would insluda the eplis under the
headings “Orders received to-day", "Orders vooelved thie nonth
to date", "Unfilled orders", "Average shipments to date",
"Average orders recelved aoily to date” and "Stoel: .on hend end
voady to toast to-day" in rad ink ot the right of the present fig-
ures reduced to equivalent of A-4 cells. Also advine me concorn=
ing the cells on unfilled orders. Cen you include somewhere on
tho report the cells thet ore ordered with definite shipping in-
structions, to distinguish thom from orders that can be asuneelled?
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COMMONWEALTH EDISON COMPANY,
Eclson Bultoina, 130 AoAMS STREET, °
CHICAGO, ILL,
ADDRESE ALL COMMUNICATION® TO THE COMPANY 2
June 16, 1910.
Thomas A. Edison, Esq., Fy 00
Orange, NJ. JN L
My Dear Edison.
I received from my friend Merz an
inquiry as to the Edison storage battery, and have
sent him a letter, dated the l4th, copy of which I
enclose you. Would you let me have your personal
criticisms, in your own hand writing, of my letter
to Herz?
Yours truly
encl
[ENCLOSURE]
(cory)
June 14th, 1910,
Charles H. Merz, Us8q.,
C/o Messrs. Herz and McLellan,
28 Victoria Street,
Westminster, London, S. VW.
Dear Mr. Merg:-
; I have your letter of June 3rd, relative
to the Edison Storage Batteries, Mr. Edison is undoubtedly
going ahead very energetically in the manufacture of batteries
and I hear much that would indicate that the battery promises
very well. I am not informed as to just what progress is
being made in the development of various types of batteries,
but apparently the most progress has been made in developing
those suitable for use with electric vehicles.
The most concrete information I have is some obtained
from six months experience with two batteries used in operating
light traffic wagons for this Company. These wagons have been
in daily use. The batteries each consist of 70 cells at 1,2
volts each, The entire battery weighs 1200 pounds.
The lead batteries which we are using in other
vehicles, doing the same work, consist of 42 cells, each
Giving two volts. They weigh 1600 pounds. ‘The output of the
lead battery is 140 ampere hours, and that of the Edison 225
ampere hours. At present the batteries are very expensive.
The price of the Edison Battery is approximately $1400. or
$1400.00 whereas that of the lead battery is about $350.00.
We estimate the life of a lead battery at approximately three
years, although during this time it was necessary to renew all
of the positive, «nd some of the negative plates, so that the
repuirs during this period amount to nearly the first cost of
the battery, or an expenditure of, say, $700.00 in all for the
battery, first cost and up-keep, during three years, On the
other hand, my people think from wll indications, from the six
months use, that the life of the Edison Battery will be very
long and thet the repuirs would be probably lower than in the
cuse of the lead batteries,
My people report one performance which may interest '
you, where an Edison Battery went without being charged for :
three days, giving out 287 ampere hours and giving a vehicle
mileage of 67 miles, on a wagon where the use of electricity was
not particularly efficient. It probably would have gone as high
as 100 miles on some of our most efficient wagons,
As to the performance of electric vehicles, I am
sending you under separate cover a reprint from one of the
January issues of the "World and Engineer," the information
contained in which was obtained from traffic wagons operated by
this company.
Yours truly
(Signed) Samuel Insull, President,
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F.L.MORSE, treaseManacer.
FRICTIONLESS ROCKER JOINT CHAINS,
HIGH SPEED SILENT RUNNING FLEXIBLE GEARING
‘OR POWER TRANSMISSION.
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NEW YORK, June 20 1916-7
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Mr .Thos.A.Edison, Le Be well a.
Orange, N.J. Apreade. Lhe Aiea twee 2 eld
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Since returning to the office I have looked over mdre
Dear Sir:
carefully your letter of June 14th to the factory and find that
you mention that the car mounted on 33" wheels will have an ap-
proximate speed of 350 RPM, whereas in talking with you last Fri-
day it was my impression that you advised that the car would trav-
el at the rate of 50 miles an hour at times which woulda bring the
chain somewhat above 500 RPM. I probably was wrong in my under-
standing but before Proceeding with further details I woulda like
to be advised more definitely as to this point and also whether
larger sized wheels on the car can be considered.
Very truly yours,
MORSE CHAIN co.
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My dear Edison:
I have yours of June 16th.
Pacific, which requires a continuous heavy draw bar pull for
hours in succession, nothing but direct supply could fulfill
the extremely arduous conditions, but the possible applica-
tion which I had in mind which ought to be studied is the
following:
A locomotive deriving its supply primarily from
working conductors, say the third rail, but carrying a high
discharge battery of fair capacity and moderate weight, so
that it could move over the tracks in freight yards and the
complicated lay-out of a terminal station on battery power
alone, the battery to be charged directly from the third rail
whenever standing on any convenient siding; the battery also
to float upon the line when running, principally supplying
the motors because of drop in track potential yhenever starting
at any distance from a sub-station, then dividing with the line,
then being charged from the line whenever the track potential
rose above the critical point.
Thos. A. Edison -- #2.
The special work in terminals and yards is costly,
no matter whether overhead or third rail, but actual power
used is moderate. It is quite possible that here may be an
important field, but it depends, of course, largely upon
the size and cost of batteries. The use proposed would
probably increase the load factor of sub-stations, as well
as reduce the investment there.
Very truly yours,
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DIVISION OF
MANUFACTURES
ELECTRIC INDUSTRIES
Department of Coumerce and Labar T. C. MARTIN
EXPERT 6PECIAL AGENT
BUREAU OF THE CENSUS 299 W. 99TH STREET
Washington NEW YORK Ne Ys
June 25, 1910.
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T. A. Edison, Esquiros, (\\ /
Edison Laboratorios,
Orange,
N. J.
Dear Mr. Edison:
The U. S. Bureau of the Oensus has just issued the
Streot and Electric Railway Report of 1907, embodying data for the
whole country of that year; while the text brings the development
of the art and industry down to 1909, I haye asked the office
to forward you a personal copy direct, which I trust you will have
receivad. Owing to my own share in this work, I am naturally
interested in the issuance of the report, and shall be greatly
obliged to receive from you anything that suggests itself to you
in the way of remark, comment, or oritioiam that would be helpful
to the office or myself in handling the data for 1912,
Bolieve me, :
Yours truly,
OC hat
Expert Special Apgont.
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CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS
WILLIAM M. LYBRAND (PENNSYLVANIA)
T. EDWARD ROSS ‘ ’
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Frank L. Dyer, Eso.,
New York, 30th June, 1910.
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Orange, a oh
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New Jersey.
Dear Sir :
We are sending you herewith reports on our
work which we have recently done for the Edison Storage
Battery Company.
As mentioned to you in our telephone con=
versation it was our understanding that prices to be placed
on all. property and plant items were to be at their present
value, but we found that all items of real estate, build=-
ings, machinery, and equipment have been priced at origi-
nal cost, As we understood that all losses from op-
eration up to 28th February, 1910 were to be carried as a
Lemporary asset which might, at some future time, be cap=
italized, it would seem that the omission of depreciation
of machinery is defeating that purpose as it would only
mean that, at some future time, the machinery and eouip=
FLD. 2-
ment would have to be depreciated and charged against the
earnings of the coming years, You will notice in our
report that we have thrown all the losses from operations
and experimenting, &c., into the ‘adjustment account’ which
has been carried to the balance sheet as an asset, accom-
‘ panied by an appropriate note,
We would like very much to have your views on
the matter of depreciation, .
Very truly yours,
WB/B Carnal Oferel bor Thereby
[FROM MILLER R. HUTCHISON]
' Wew York Uity, June 30,4920
Mt, Thomas A. Edison, z ;
West Orange, N.J
Hy dear Mr. EBdison,-
I have just returned from a most interesting trip to
Annapolis wnere I made a series of tests of submarines for the
purpose of adapting inv Beso arer Tachometer, now adopted by
the U.S. Navys
I took down with me, Mr, Cosgrave, Editor of Every-
body's Magazine, Wr Dinwhddda, War Correspondent for the Herald
and World, Mr. Johnston of the New York Herald, and several
other interesting gentlemen,
We engaged in submersion tests as far down as 90
fest, torpedo practice, etc,
» Cette I am vary much interested in this type of vessel for
pest defence work, and considerable publicity is to be given
this subject very shortly by the newspaper men J took down.
I was struck with the greatest danger now existing in ©
submarine work, and which can be entiraly ovbiated by your
battery. fhe "majority of accidents to submarines thus far have
been due to collision and breakage of some part, thereby admitting
salt water. Riven a ginall volume of salt water gets busy with
the acid in the storage battaries. that are only covered over by |
a flimsy flooring, and asphyxiation of the entire crauw,is
naturally the result,
The submarine Officers state that running on the
surface with hatches open is far more dangerous than diving,
because of the liability of shipping asea, i
ya
I am thoroughly posted in this submarine, , and it
eccurred to me that I could be of some service to you in regard
to the adapting of your hattery Which would, of courte, over=
come danger from gas,
In divingw, the buat goes down by the head or
astern over 14 degrees, the electroltg(Z-is now spilled from the
batteries, amt ap it is a very difficult’ matter to kéep the boat
on “an aven keel and unddér water when submerged or coming up,
The doat I was on tilted 12 degrees before we could stop here
Mr, Raison * 2 June 20,1910
, tte
There ‘is always some bilge water gt: the keel ,whon
the acid slops over or a jar ROIS beet nee? is trouble PDQ.
If you would like to have! run over to discuss this
matter with you, kindly drop me a line, ,
A large number of subaaries are going to be built
very shortly, and I think there is a splendid Lield open hore
“for your batteries,
\
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Yours sincerely,
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY
In Reply Refer to
PRINCIPAL OFFICE ®
SCHENECTADY, N. Y.
New Yor Orricr, 30 Crourcy Srrerr
June 30, 1910.
B\9
li. i. BF. Willer, Secretary, Wye Ar
Thomas A. Hdison Laboratory,
Orange, it. J.
Dear Gir:
Complying with your requost of June 29th, I am sending
you wider senarate cover a file of bulletins covering various
railway motors manufactured by this Company, also control equip-
ment. These bulletins give general description of the various
size motors as well as sonoral dimensions.
I trust that the bulletins I an sendine you will give
you all the information you desire. If we can supply you with
any further information, however, kindly call won us.
Yours very truly,
CBE: EV RAILWAY DEPARTMENT.
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY
In Reply Refer to
es PRINCIPAL OFFICE
+. SCHENECTADY, N. Y. .
New York Orrice, 80 Cuurcy Strerr
July 1, 1910.
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison, Wy v
Orange, New Jersey.
Dear Sir:
In reference to your recent inquiry as regards the equip-
ment for storage battery locomotive for the Brie Railroad, would
advises that wa give below a short summary of data on vhich to base
the approximate size of battery required:
The service outlined we believe is too severe for any
type of equipment, as the stops are too frequent and the schedule
speed too high. We have, therefore, estimated woon makxine a sche-
dule speed of 27 1.P.H. with 7 stops in the 26 miles; this is about
equivalent to making the run in one how instead of 52 minutes, at
the same time making fewer atons. If 1” stops are made the schedule
speed will be about 20 11.P.H.
In order to favor the proposition as much as nossible, we
are estimating upon an equipment much smaller than would be furnished
with a 40 ton electric locomotive, since it will be necessary to
charge the batteries at each end of the line, which will allow the
motors time to cool off. ‘the voltage of the battery proposed is not
mentioned but we have assumed that it will be 500 volts.
Approximate speed time energy curve eiving speed, amperes
and distance is attached and shows the demend upon the battery. The
weight of the battery asswned in making these calculations has been
roughly estimated between 7 and 10 tons.
We have also estimted that a bassage car capable of sup-
porting this woight and holding the prower number of cells will
weight approximately 40 tons, including trucks, body and electrical
equipment less storage battory and battery accessories.
A brief swmary follows:
GENERAL
Locomotive proposed for Erie Railroad.
Length of road 26 miles.
Average grade Level.
SERVICE
Averace leneth of run 5.75 miles.
Duration of stops - each 50 sec.
Schedule speed pronosed 27 MP.
Maximum speed with 100
tons trailing load * 40 MPs.
Foli
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Maximum treiling load 100 tons
Avproximate weicht of locomotive ;
exclusive of battery - 40 tons
Watt hours per ton mile 36
Munber of motors per locomotive. 4
H.P. rating of motors, each 100
Type of control Tywe li
Avrrox. woight of motors & control 21,000 lbs.
You may prefer using 250 V. motors. - The speed time
energy curve will remain the same as shown, xcept that the cur-
rent values will be twice as great. We have no standard 250 Vv.
motor which would be satisfactory for this work and we believe
that there will be some difficulty in providing a control which
will satisfactorily handle 3,000 arms: without being very ex-
ponsive and considerably heavier than the 500 V. control.
These figures are submitted as a preliminary estimate
for your consideration and susrestions.
The cost of a car to carry your battery and the necessary
equipment to porform the above service, wo estimate you should be
able to buy for Approximately ——-- awn nnn 2, 000.
Ow Znrineers have given this batvery locomotive quite
alittle study and have suscested that an electric locomotive
could be built for the service required which would contain only
the motors and control equipment, the same as the present type of
electric locomotive, and that 2 small trailer cer could ve used to
carry the battery. By this method, the locomotive could be kent
in service practically all the time by uncoupling the trailer at
the end of a mn and coupling on a trailer with batteries fully
charged. :
If you care to go into the details of equipment of the
above mentioned service.fwther, we would be glad to arrange to
have one of our engineers visit your works and go over these calcu-
lations with you. .
Yows very truly,
CBK: EV RATIVWAY DEPARTMENT.
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July 11, 1910.
Thomas A. Edison, Hsq.,
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Dear Sir: .
I have carefully consi derea the quest ion esked me
as to whether it would be practicable to permit the Jeffrey oe
Ma nufaoturing Company to market an industrial locomotive \
equipped with your batteries under the name "Jeffrey-Edison
Locomotive”. I think it would be most unwise for you to.
permit this use of your name, because in @ measure it would
nullify all of our offorts made in the past to prevent the
use of your name by others. No doubt if your consent in this
case was given, there would be many other roquests from people
who use our producta for permission to use your name, and it
would be difficult to adequately explain why the request, 4f )
granted in one case, should not be granted in all capes. The
rule thet has been adopted not to permit your name to be used
in connestion with any enterprise except thoge which you cone
trol and for which you feel a personal responsibility, is 8
safe one to follow, and I think you would be meKing a great
. mistake if you departed from that rule.
- Yours very truly, \
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MILLER REESE HUTCHISON
ENGINEER
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison f
West Orange, Nd. Poe
My dear Mr. Edison,- ly
As a result of the Edison Rattery talk I gave the
Officers of the First Submarine Division in Annapolis, on June
28tn, followed un by several letters from me to the proper
Washington Officials, the Navy Department has ordered Lieut.
McNair, in command of the First Division of Submarine Propeller,
Annapolis, Md., to proceed to New York on Friday afternoon.
I quote his letter in detail.
"Cuttlefish, Annapolis, July 9,1910.
Dear Hutch,-
Have just come from the Department,
Orders will be issued this week for me to
proceed to New York and study possibilities
of Edison Battery for Submarine work. Am
leaving for Solomon's Island Pautuxent
River in half an hour for torpedo practice,
and return here Friday noon. Will try to catch
the Congressional Limited, leaving Baltimore
at 5 pem.
Hastily,
Mac,"
I therefore wish to make an appointment to take McNair
over to your Laboratory Saturday morning,
He is a bright young man, thoroughly posted on submarine
work, and quite an expert in lead batteries,
; I trust that, as a result of my strenuous activity in
HRdison Battery nehalf, I will succeed in landing them in every
Cepae ment of the Army and Navy in which storage batteries are
used,
I have already started the ball rolling,
Yours si 1;
Cather, nabroe
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY
Tn Reply Refer to
PRINCIPAL OFFICE
SCHENECTADY, N. Y.
New York Orricr, 30 Cuurcy Strerr
duly 14, 1910,
iy. Thomas A. Edison, b=
Oranse, WN. d.
I would ac! ee ngmet your letter o %. Ord
12th in reference to battery locompt\ive for Erle@tailrond De Ay a
service. Caw wll pe
There is no question but what this service can be AG
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performed with two smeller cars and eight motors instead a a
large car with fow motors, the principal auestion, on ‘30 ol
will be which is the most economical.
If you would live to disenss the Mid
of this proposition, I will be glad to arrango to have on Lf
our engineers from Schenectady co over this matter with you.
Yours very truly,
OBI: EV RAILWAY DEPARTLENT.
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY
In Reply Refer to
PRINCIPAL OFFICE
SCHENECTADY, N. Y.
New Yorx Orricr, 80 Cuurcn Srrerr
July 14, 1910,
Lr. H. Y. Miller, Secretary,
Thomas A. Edison Laboratory,
Oranma, We. de
Dear Sir:
I ackmowledsa receipt of yow letter of July 9th
asking for dimensions, etc-, of clectric driven air compressors
as well as contactor boxes, rheostats, ote. I find it necossary
to refer to our Schenectady office for this informtion and will
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forward same to you at tho earliest possible date.
Yours very truly,
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ew York Uity, July 19,1910,
Nr. Thomas A, dison
West Orange, Nod,
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Fnclosed herewith data on the @dison Battery, as
applied to sUubuurines, whieh I have Worked onl as a result of the
conference, vesterday,
Tt wouldseem that the Proper conbination vould be an
engine of one~nalf the weleht, gviasolene or alcohol, preferably
the latter, of one-half bheg capacity, and an Edison Rattery of
1713 KW iirs., ¢
A cruising radins of 540 knots would be available,
This, of course, aupivsing tat one-half the present gasolene
tank canucity would furnish gasolone for 125 fiep. engine for
SO hoars,
J have no data at the moment on the consump tio? of
&«s80lane per hip. honr of large marine engines, but I will call
MeNalrts attention te this and let him alter this figure if
necessary,
Brom present indications, T think we will have liitle
. ’
aitficulty “in landing the Rdison Battery on @1ll submarines in
tnis Nave,
Yours sincerely,
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ESTATE OF LEANDER J. McCORMICK : PLEASE ADOREGS ALL OUSINESS ainnnanenntiek qT id
@. HALL McCORMICK, Tavatece
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: CHICAGO
TELEPHONE Cenrrar{ ed Ss
. Chicago, July 20, 1910. %
Thomas A. Edison, Esq., /
Orange, N. J. ae’? 4
Dear Sir : Gu, “@
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We have been referred to you by Mr. Lucien Wheatly a,
and W. W. Wheatly of Charleston, Ill., who desire to rent
space in one of our buildings for the purpose of promoting the
sale of Edison Storage Batteries. Any information you may
feel at liberty to give as to their general character and finan-
cial responsibility will be considered strictly confidential :
end will be greatly appreciated by us. i
Yours very truly,
Estate W772 Ze rs a
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July 26th. 1910.
Mr. Geo. Meister,
Laboratory.
Please note the enclosed letter with Mr.Edison's
remarks. Will you kindly have these remarks written on Mr.
Edison's letter-head.
LIN Ferund - \ewleboaarn
MILLER REESE HUTCHISON
ENGINEER >)
SO CHURGH STREET yi
NEW YORK
we a York Uity, July a
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CABLE ADDRESS “MASSACON' NEW YORK
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison
West Orange, NJ. 2
My dear Mr. rdison,-
Referring to the data I mailed you CO
In the middle of the third page, yowf will fin i
that I stated there is a 20% loss between charging and
discharging of Edison Battery,
I understand the loss is approximately 40%, This
works out that it would take 32 hours to charge the battery
with the 75 KW charging plant.
I assume this is correct. If it is not » kindly
advise me,
Yours sincerely,
Stora sem Settee) - Testing
New Yo ric Ui ty, July 25, 1910,
Mr. Thomas ice Rdison _ :
West Orange, Ned. /é C
My dear Mr, Rdisonj- |”
When Mr, Hartford received the storage batteries I sold.
‘him for you, being impattént to put them to work in the ahsence
of the awiéeh board which has not yet been received, ne connected
all cells in series and threw them on to his generator, © The ;
boltage of the batteries was greater than that of the gencrator,
causing reversal of polatity in the generator and a few fire works
from tne switch board, . The fuse blew all right, but bless my soul,
if he did not do the same thing again a couple of days later, pute
. ting the polarity of the generator back where .it belonged, so he
is right where he began, This goes to show that althouth your
battery is pretty well fool-proof, you certainly need in conneot-
ion therewith a Selective Charging Switch which will prevent the
positive of the line from being connected to the negative of the
batteries, and which will also protect against ‘discharge of the
batteries through the armature of the generator, or thru the
laws, motors etc., on the circuit if the steam pngine or 'gapolene
engine Lies down.”
I am enclosing herewith aleten aging in Bees form,
such a protection switch; which embodies the following features,
First: The charging circvit can be connected to the terminals
of the veh: vehicle or switch board irrespect ve of polarity.
Second: The battery can be connootad to the terminals of the.
charging switch trrespective of polarity : F
third: When the current comes on the charging line, the
fields—vf—the little motor:are energized being connected in par-
allel on the line, ‘This causes-the attraction of the pon Sie
which chases the. cireuit from the battery through the armature of
the ‘motor. ‘The -motor tien rotates the proper direction to, throw
. &hdouble pole double throw, switch in the prop er: @irection ‘to give
you plus¢the line to. Phus the battery. - ceo
If the current goes off a. double spring tanator. device
on ‘the ‘shaft ' of the motor will ‘automatically ‘restore the switch to
poet on midway.’ ‘between the contact idrabag a Shaneby* eee the
circuit.
the fields of Saks denewetoe being. dead, tne neanstte
* switch will gQopen,. thereby ' opening the” otiroult ;from She battere
-des-into the: armatures - ‘of the motors * «>
If: the current comes on reversed, the device wotld au-..
tomatically selvet polarity and operate. accordingly.
‘peferring £0: the ‘Diagrant:
- vontrorton 1s
Connects on 4: i -
ae sockets. |
. fies, “which.T, tut
T.Adison 2 July 25,1910 | a
_A and B are the line terminals.
G | and D the Dae tery terminalia.
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‘Suppowe' A ap sie. a Co ‘is’ luce The fields. of the
motor are énergized, switch 1 (is closed,.am- the: motor rotates
in a contra-clockwise ‘direction: until. knives’, H-F° of ‘double
pole,. double. throw-switch\a're \forced into. connection. with blades
G-H. The current ‘then flows \over wire Ip Bele GnB~ 49 5-C~ through
the battery = Ds6-7 ToH-F-8-9 aoe
se
SRUOND* conNBeT ION: a
‘ siphose oe “4s ‘minus and. CG 4s ‘plus’ * Rotation. of
the armature’ in’ clock-wise direction, current then flowing. from
‘BeQ- 8=FoInde5-US bheenin the, battery: - /D=6-7 [Ke Be2-1-A,,
CONMEUTION . ‘Br
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If A ty plus” ‘and’ Cc is minus: Rotation. of “+a. arna-
eae clockwise. “Current flows from’ A-I- 2-E-K+7=6-D-= through the
. hat tery! > U5 *A~JHF=829=B' ,
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“lf “A “Fs. minus - “and . oC is amines Rotation: of the ‘motor
Acoutnane Wounen, “Current flows from BePOGePriie7= 6=-D- through
the battery “ (UnAnB2Ge Ee Palak,
Team designing, this. switeh ; up: inte: four, pines, ta earry
15- 60- 90° and - 120 BInperes. respectively.
2 oe axpect -t bo, use the motor T-am ising ‘on my eiasan horn,
wound for the proper, resist ance, © On the end ofthe motor, I
will -locate the switch términals and: eae 80° ee the: entire”
apparatus wld be omali and compact. BEC eM GCE a,
eon BEE “tnd pi Tiwi: make ‘the. switen. 46, cnabeees ini oL1,, The.
whole ‘thing. ‘wi12. bé, very. compact,. and could: ba: installed, in’ an *
outrof=thanway corner, of, electrical, yenicless cee
: With. ignition tat tery: a ‘Wab. ti uring: ‘on ‘altashing athect-
dy. to. the ocket, “but, ‘upan second thought, concluded. this, would:
not ‘ao, as ten. canperes. wourd. es ‘too, much * THOj. nut: ‘Shrough" ordinary, :
4 oy 4.
. 4 i of! 3 a 7 Fa : x 2)
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bry foe
are’ ag6 Tt dadiensa, up an” ‘ele olytic. Poe
Gan be used to: good d vantage “ Lith your teni-
tion batteries Ate ‘adesigned.’’ As! goon. ‘as"T ‘have a few: ymqments., I ;
Sev oak :
ees! ‘Look over: at. ‘and - ‘send. you gone ‘data, :
Me's daieay atitomobiliet. fis up: aga sine ‘the aliernating
scan prepooitien, and. AL” née has “gomet ning invhis baTAge which:
itincheeesies : Aechert : ‘ ee ee er ee Teer |
T.A,Ediso
he can use to charge. gis’ storage: battery. from ‘the. alternating
current circuit, I think a great many of, then will be sola,
‘aba ‘ SER Ea Ee ol : i ' ty
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New York Uity, July 23,1910.
Mr. Thomas A, Edison
West Orange, NJ,
Dear Mr. Bdison,-
Iam in receipt of a letter today from Lieut. HeNair,
stating that he personally made a verbal and written report
upon the Fdison Battezy to the Navy Department on the 24ty
instant, and wnich-was very favoralW received.
I think we will hear from that quarter very Saini:
now :
Yours sincerely,
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PRINCIPAL OFFICE
In Reply Refer ta:
SCHENECTADY, N. ¥.
Schenectady, N. Y., July 26th, 1910,
Mr, Thomas A. Edison,
Nest Orange, N. J.
Dear Sir: (attention Kr. Herter)
Since our conference in Mr. Edison's office on Monday
morning, I have estimated the size of motors for the storage battery
locomotive proposed for the Erie Railroad. Realizing the efforts you
are making to eliminate as much weight as possible in the design of
the mechanical part of the locomotive I have made a special effort to
obtain for you the lightest possible equipment which we believe will be
satisfactory for the work required.
The motor we are recommending is a 250 volt motor which
we intend to run at 500 volts, It is not ia: coimmtating pole motor ,
but the commtation will be very satisfactory since there will be no
interruption in the supply of power such as there is with the trolley
car caused by the trolley wheel partly leaving the wire when passing
under. hangers. We believe you will find that a commtating pole railway
motor will not be required, and we are therefore recommending the GE-53-
250 volt non-comutating pole motor in order to avail ourselves of about
500 pounds per motor saving in weight. This motor is also considerably
cheaper than the GE~210 conmutating pole on which you have been estimating.
Folio.
2, GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY
Truck makers' diagram showing the outline of this motor,
speed time energy curves and characteristic curves of the motor are
enclosed. It is proposed to run these motors with ventilating covers.
Also, if it 1s desired to increase the duty , it will be possible to
devise some means of forced ventilation in order to keep the motor heat-
ing within safe temperature limits.
In regard to the control for this locomotive, we would
recommend for the first locomotive one of our standard controllers which
places the motors progressively in series and parellel with series resist-
ance in circuit rather than to attempt to series parallel the batteries.
In order to furnish you with a controller which would series parallel the
battery we would have to develop a new controller which would take several
months to deliver and would be very expensive, as new patterns, dies and
drawings would be required. The details of the control could be better
worked out after a trial of the equipment, and we cannot see such a great
advantage between . series paralleling the batteries and series
paralleling the motors using resistances in series ,such that the success
or failure of the system as a whole will be much effected by the type of
control employed. ‘We have had very little experience with controllers
which series parallel the battery, but we heve used the series resistance
method in a number of our storage battery propositions and find it worksve
very well indeed.
The weight of the GE-53 motor complete with gear, gear case,
pinion and axle liners is about 2800 pounds. The controllers will weigh
approximately 200 pounds a piece, with control wiring, rheostats, eta,,
possibly 500 pounds.
Folio.
3. GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY
If you desire quotation on our standard controllers we
will quote you on 2~ K-34 controllers suitable for controlling 4-— 75
HP motors.
Hoping that this information will be of assistance to you
in laying out your locomotive, I am/
Yours very truly,
Railway & Traction Eng. Dept.
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New York City.
Dear Sir:
Enclosed herewith find newspaper clipping
regarding the submarine Cuttlefish, with Mr. Edison's
notation thereon, as follows:
"Why did the batteries run out?
Kindly give the same the attention you deem
necessary and oblige,
Yours very truly,
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Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,
The Laboratories,
New York.
Dear Sir, i POE
Some months ago, We had the pleasure of correspond-
ing with you respecting the Rritish representation of your
BHlectric Accumulators, for which, unfortunately, we were too
late, as you had already settled this business.
As We are very desirous of handling some recent
American invention, which in consequence,of our influence
with the Government, and our connections with almost every
branch of Comuercial.Engineering, We are peculiarly fitted
to introduce, we feel that we are justified in reminding you
of our exsistance.
If you, or your friends, have anything Which you
think might interest us,may we ask you to bear this firm in
mind?
rs Yours faithfully,
NIXON & MANNOOK,
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Dear Mr, rdison,=
I notice the account of the CUTTLEFISH accident, and
neve taken up tne matter with the view of deternining as to
just what did happen.
not eae
f can.sce how the running out of the batteries would -
affect the ability of the bout to come in on her own power, a2
she uses 4 gas engine exclusively on surface,
‘the Chances are, something else happened and, for
reagons which you and I can best understand, the plane’ wag laid
on the bat teriase-
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Those submarine bova are dead crazy to got Raison
Batteries on the bouts, and I think we can expect very ungatis-
factory performances of the lead cells from now on,
You casnot well blame them when thev are taking their
lives in their hands every time they make a dive owing to the
‘constant dread of chlorine gas, It is the only thing on the
boat they do fear, : :
I expect. to hear from tcNair shortly as to the real
cause, and will Let you knows I an doing a food deal of inside
work which I think “wild, prove productive of. results very shortly.
If you receive any moce visita from the Hlectric Boat
Co. or the Lake Company, suggest your betenhoning ma go that I
can be present at the interview, 2
I am now in position to talk intelligently on this
motter huving made a study of it of late, and if there is anything
you want to aHONs I think I’can furnish the informat ton promptly.
I am at work on the Automatic Chatging Switch, and hope
to have something to.show you very soon.
Yours sincerely,
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i. 50 CHURCH STREET
CORTLANOT 8420 NEW YORK “lear
August 16th, 1910.
Wwite be hoped Le ide orn
Thomas A. Wdison, Esq., eee Y weet
Edison Manufacturing Company, ace ; a
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Orange, New Jersey. /f; iia
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Dear Sir:-—
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Since I saw you the shes er Yer Co atime
sede Ge G ort
lighting of buoys by wireless, I have been eres over your.
aan clan
remarks concerning the use of a souhd bo ecubine abit Ce efi
; Buh,
to Gy
to the Klaxon horn as a fog signal,
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Snel nee about
a year ago, I saw a man in the Netropolitan Lire Bij4iding who
claimed to have invented the Klaxon horn, and we had some con
versation about using it, but at that time there seemed no way
to get the power without a good deal of complication, nor did he
have any helpful suggestions regarding the acoustics of tne pro-
per horn, etc.
Your new storage battery seems to be a way out of the
difficulty, and I believe that I will have no difficulty in
getting the Government to take this up if we can produce a
satisfactory sound producing device, but as you suggested, it
must be of a type to wake the dead. At best, the present
sound signals which are used, i.e., the bells and fog whistles
actuated by wave compression on the old Courtney principle, do
not carry very well, especially to windward or in a calm,
Now, when a vessel is on a lee shore, a device that does not
carry to windward is almost useless. Some of the worst fogs
ils RS Oe Mya hanes emt Na nae a
NELSON GOODYEAR ING. August léth, 1910,
Thomas A. Edison, Esq., #2.
and the greatest of shipping hazards occur in calms in crowded
port entrances like New York's Lower Bay, and under those
conditions a wave actuated whistle is quiet, Another import—
ant advantage of the electrically driven Klaxon siron would be,
that we could give it definite churacteristics, a feature which
is very urgently needed, as you will appreciate, jhen a vessel
is coming in on dead reckoning, she may know her approximate
location, but almost never knows it exactly, and as these buoys
will be used in great numbers, it is not only desirable that
their light has definite characteristics, that is, so many
seconds light and so many seconds dark, alternated perhaps with
different colored screens, or different numbers of flashes, but
they should be distinguished by different sound characteristics,
i.e., a long and a short blast, or two short blasts, etc., up
to a number which would serve for buoys, perhaps tor 100 miles,
when the system. could start over in the reverse order so that
from | Shaeadeewer ie to characteristic there would be a distance
of say 200 miles, or whatever the lighthouse men think advisable,
This buoy business which I started 4 couple or years ago
has proven most interesting, and presents a great many very
fascinating problems, and I have wondered if I could not get
your interest to the extent of your assisting us with some of
the electric problems which are out of our line, particularly
as it would seem that your battery would be the biggest step
toward the solution of the problems. The buoy shown in
the enclosed cut, carrying 3500 lbs. of carbide will burn about
nine months; the small one about six months without any attention
whatever,
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NELSON GOODYEAR INC. August 16%,1910.
Thomas A, Edison, Esq., 73.
By floating a storage battery on the line, would it not
be possible to get a wave actuated electric generator which
would keep the battery charged, or would it be simpler and
more practical to use a large enough battery to last the entire
period?
I trust you will pardon the length of this letter, but I
assure you we can do a very large volume of business if we can
work out a powerful sound signal, and the importance of the un-
dertaking seems to me to warrant my writing you at such length.
I hope to have s revolving apparatus to represent the
weight of a revolving flastlight at your factory in due course,
as this is also an extremely important thing for stationary or
shore aids.
Yoursvery truly,
Dic. N.G.---k.
Dry EIS
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY : ae =
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é PRINCIPAL OFFICE \ My
' SCHENECTADY, N. Y. \ is
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RAY New York Orrice, 80 Cuurcn Streer
\ Aug. 24, 1910 sw. ¢
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Thomas A. Edison Esq ., tf ELK ar a i oa
Orange , Ud. Maes | é
Lay!
Dear Mr. Bdison:- ; C/
Referring to our recont interviews and the desire
which you then expressed to meet a couple of able steam railway
men who were experienced in railroad engineering practice and
traffic conditions, would say that if agreeable to you I shali
be glad to bring over ir. A.R. Whaley,Assistent General Manager
of the Hew York Centrel, and Mr. B.F. Wood , Assistant Chief
Engineer of the Pennsylvania Railroad,to meet you next Monday
afternoon,
I have already talked over this matter with ur.
Beach who has kindly arranged to bring us ont in his auto. Should
this particuler date not be entiroly cdénvenient for you, shall be
Gled to meke the call at some other time .
With kindest regards,
Most sincerely yours,
Doakler, . 4 and
Contractors to H.M. Orrice oF Works. On ApmirRALTyY ano War OFFice Lists.
1, VICTORIA STREET,
NIXON & MANNOGK, afi S.W.
einen es: Sra September, 1910,
Telephone No.—WESTMINSTER 6167.
PHN/J. (Ann at Finspury Pavement House, £.C.)
Thos. Edison, Esq., he, aga ee
The Laboratory, cay Vas |
New York. Ch ee Excgl Lond Gut a
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Weare much obliged to you for your raSSur of the
15th ultimo, and in reply beg to say that with regard to the
question offthe Rritish Government taking uv your batteries
for the propulsion of submarines, we gather from your letter
that you do.not at present Wish your invention to be published
as a Patent: Specification, or in any other way in this coun-
try.
wy
‘
Dear Sir:
We take it that you have, either not yet anplied
ee a Patent in the U.S.A., or that if so, you do not intend
applying in this country until your U.S. Patents are ready
for allowance. There is, however, no risk rin of publication
even if a Patent.is applied for in this country. .
Tn cases Where the Government is to he anproachedad,
the course adopted is for the inventor, whether a subject of
this country or not,to apply for a Patent in Great Rritgain
in the ordinary way, -iust before the invention ts submitted
to the Government. Immediately the Government takes the
invention under consideration, the inventor applies for hia
Patent to be made a secret Patent,in Which case the Patent is
not printed when accepted, and the invention is not vublished
in any Way, and its secret is carefully guarded by the Government
themselves.
In addition, ine Specifications of such inventions
are not examined by the ordinary examiners, but go to a special
department of the Rritish Patent Office, so that there is no
possibility of anything leaking out. In the event, however,
of the Government not taking up the invention, (which we trust
in this case Would be unlikely), the Patent may simply be I
dropped, if no publication is desired, and then the invention
never. becomes printed as a ‘snecification, and nothing conse-
‘quently can ever become known about it, unless the inventor
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choses to make the matter public himself. To arop a Patent, does
not hinder the application for a fresh Patent for the same
matter at a later date. ;
We hope that you will decide to take out a Rritish
Patent, and let us introduce the battery to the Admiralty, which,
as We have said before, We are in a favourable position to do,
and We shall be pleased to hear what arrangements you are
prepared to make with us in connection With this business.
We are quite aware of what the Admiralty are doing
with respect to Accumulators for Submarines, and are of the
opinion that your invention should be placed before them at
the earliest vossible date.
Vours faithfully,
FOR & ON BEHALF OF NIXON & MANNOCK,
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New York Clty, September 3,1910,
Me. Thomas A. Fdison
Frontenac, N.Y
My dear ur, Hdison,-
; A representative of the Lake Torpedc Boat Go. called \
this morning to discuss the battery matter, having gotten wind
of it from Lieut, Ellyson. ;
He agsicad for and received from me, a copy of tha report
I hended in, compiled fvom conversation between Ellyson, McNair,
Warren and ourselves, in your Laboratory in July, He states
frankly that: the lead cell ig totally jnadequate, and was much
impressed by the discharge curve #38, dated coptenber 1910,
forvarded to mt by Mr, Bee vesterday,
The Laka Uoupany ara building ani exnect to have ready
for the water within two montha, a.ocat for deannstration pure
DOBESe . e
They prem inclined to offer thésuse of this boat to
try out a practical submarine battery equipment,
I explained tnat I could see no reason why the Edison
Battery Company snould axpend a large amount of money to equip
a boat, when a practical test could be conducted on a Tow cells
in the Govornmmeant Experiment Station,
TI teld tue representative, nowever, I would put this
matter up to you for your consideration,
I expect Sliyson down this afternoon to spend Sunday
with me, and will uwdgise you if J succeed in getting any further
information of volue.
I am expecting Mr, Lake to call on me noxt week for
the purpose of discussing the matter of refinancing his company
and placing it on a satisfactory basis, both from the standpoint -
of sudficient working capital and influence at washington, Will
advise you further. in this connection.
I hope you are having a pleasant time.
Yours sincerely, ‘ ; ; i
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Conese Sept. Sth, 1910.
lir. Edison: -
MOTOR RECTIFIER.
I have made a preliminary run with the small single
commutator rectifier on a 60-volt battery. There was no difficulty
in maintaining synchronous speed or securing a steady charging current,
but I have found the following effects due to the high voltege of the
battery which did not show up on the small test cells.
BRUSHES»
It is not practicable to use soft carbon brushes under the
above conditions. The commmteator seems to get coated very quickly
with an imperceptible film of high resistance, but unstable in charac-
ter. For instence: with the battery switch off and running free
the voltmeter will show at first 60 or 70 volts; within a few minutes
this will drop possibly as low as 40 volts at times; though when the
battery switch is closed and the charging current is passing the voltage
immediately arises to 65 and remains steady. The effects, however, of
this coating on the commutator is to. render it liable to flash over in
operation. It is not so marked if the carbon brush is connected to
the negative terminal of the battery.
I find the best results so far by using a composite brush
recently put on the market by the National Carbon Co., and composed
largely of finely divided copper with a small percentage of graphite
or carbon. This is much more stable in operation and does not show
the same tendency to flash as with carbon.
This first commutator was intentionally made with the active
segments embracing an are of 45° so as to take in the whole wave of
alternation» I believe, however, it will be better to make this
(Page 2)
active segment narrower, as shovm in Sketch, Fig. J; the width of this
active segment to be governed by the voltage of the battery to be
charged. For example: if the battery voltage igs 60, as shown im
Fig. il, the active segment should be relatively of the width show in
"B", so that contact will be made and broken nearer the zero point,
or balancelly vol tage oi the charging wave and battery.
AS I have already stated, I believe it will be advisable to
use two short rectifying commutators,in series, on the plan in Pig. 2;
So that we will have four gaps in series at the point of breaking the
circuit, and the total gap will be made at e rate four times as great
as the speed of the alternation or current wave.
I heve written a déscription and made sketches » complete,
for Mr. Lewis of the Legal Dept. so as to prepare patent application
covering the above points and also some other details.
D. M. Bliss
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ilr. Boe:
Referring to the attached lettor from The Rauch
& Long Carriage Company at Clevelend, this soems to have beon
overlooked, so Il wish you would sive ig the necessary data
right away in order that I mey ba sble"to answer it.
Wheat ebout the amount of attention the battery
roquires and the cost incurrod in charging? low do these
compare with the lead batteries?
Wheat about the cffeet of tho battery solution
on the varnish of the car?
chey vefor in theiy letter to the guezantoe we
have givon thom in the past. Wheat euerantee was this?
; I was undor the improssion that tho battery
the HermamCompeny hed, had boen returned to Rauch & Lang.
Do you Imov whethor this is so or not?
let me have tho ncessary dete es to the mile~-
ase of pleasure cars that they want.
I want this information right away so thot I
can conswer thelr letter.
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BED. ARK.
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Posto, Sf,
THe Raucn & LANG CARRIAGE Co.
SALESROOM,
SUPERIOR AVE
OPP HOLLENDEN HOTEL,
MANUFACTURERS OF
CHARLES RAUCH, Presidant < ESTABLISHED t&
33.
CHARLES L F.WIEBER,V: ran. jar anager a SENERAL OFFICES
CHARLES E.J.LAN -treas4 2 (Rap Ly FACTORY : MOO W. 29 th ST.
CLEVELAND, Onto.
. June ist, 1910.
Edison Storage Battery Co.,
ORANGE, N. J.
Gentlemen: =
We have before us a copy of the Detroit
Journal of May 28th, 1910 containing an ad.of the Ander~
son Company with a guarantee over its president's signa~
ture of 50,000 miles service with a drop in battery capa~
city per charge of less than ten percent in the A-6
battery provided the solution be renewed once a year.
He makes a further guarantee that if the
vehicle is kept in one of that Company's garages and
fails within twelve months to keep up its rated capacity,
they whll replace it with a lead battery, refimd the
difference in cost of the two, thus making no charge for
the mileage obtained from the Edison battery to date.
. This guarantee we think must certainly be
influenced to a certain degree by what you are willing
to do for the vehicle manufacturer. One of our agents
has one of your 40 cell A-6 batteries in service now and
if we knew just how far we oan go in guaranteeing tho
battery we would be in better shape to do our share of
the business.
Very truly yours,
THE RAUCH & LANG CARRIAGE CO.
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Cleveland, Ohio.
Gentlemen:
Your favor o£ the 1st inst. hes been received, and in
reply I beg to advise you that the guarantee of the Edison stor-
age batterybby the vrostdent of the Anderson Cerriage Co. is
based onticely on his ovm responsibility ond was innno degroe
influenced by oursolves- Wo might sey, howover, that where tho
Edison bettery is talzen cere of in a proper garago end the in-
structions for its un-keep are obsorved with reasonable care
wo think from our ovm tests end experience that this guarentco
is porfectly sate. We do not make such a guarantee oursclyes
pecause after the bettory loaves our factory we have practically
no control over it, but in tho caso of e manufacturer maintaining
an vp-to-dete garage we bolievo that such a guarantee can be
safely made.
Yours vory truly,
BLD/ Dav ; Vice-President.
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Mr. Bee:
Replying to your memorandum of the 12th inst.
I wish you woulda answer the letter from C. B. Heynos
% Company of Richmond, Va., and tell them that we will
let them handle the Edison ignition battery along the
lines you suggest. Moke it perfectly cloar to them
that we will give them jretection so long as we are
satisfied that they doing “the businoss properly, Any
orders in thoir territory will bo reforred to them.
FP. i. Dd.
FID. ARK, ;
MILLER REESE HUTCHISON
ENGINEER
SO CHURGH STREET
NEW YORK
New York Uity, Sept.21,1910,
CABLE ADDRESS “MASSACON' New York
Mr. Thomas A. Edison ;
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My dear Mr, Edison,-
Herewith please find blue print of sketch showing
Principal Dimensions of Storage Battery Tank for U, S,
Submarine Torpedo Boats -
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TARANTULA
Kindly keep this sketch covered up on your desk,
as it would not do for any battery people to see this,
These plans are all exceedingly hard to get hold
of, and it. could not be done very well if the Bureau nad not
been instructed oy the General Board several years ago to
give me any blue prints I may call for, to be used by me
solely in original work, and be treated as confidential,
I have just returned from a trip West, and have
several interesting things to talk over with you regarding
batteries, Will try to Get out the latter part of the week,
Yours sincerely
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Ur. Smith:-
; Replying to your momorendum of September 12th,
I have discussed the question with lr. Edison as to the
expense of using bismuth in the nickel pockets, As I
understand from him, the swelling whon nickel alone is
used is very great, and thet when bismuth is employed the
swelling is somewhat reduced, but even with the mixture
of the two materials the swelling is so greet that flat
pockets cannot be used. Hence, the employmont of tubular
pockets is necessary. I do not know whether under these
circumstances it will be worth while to apply for a Cannd-
ian patent on the tubular pockets using a mixture of
nickel ani bismuth, but since the examinations at Ottawa
are not very close, it might be worth our while to make
the attempt, If you conclude that this ought not to be
done, let me Imow, and I will discuss the matter with you,
Ro OD,
PLD/ ARK
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My dear Mr. Edison,-
October 19, 1910,
ite. Thomas A. Edison,
Edison Storage Battery Uo.,
Orange, N. J.
Enclosed herewith please find letter from
Lieutenant Howe with specifications for storage batteries for
gun firing and sight lighting.
I am enclosing copy of my Lettar to
Lieutenant Commander Upham.
If you nave a few moments I wish you
would read these specifications B80 as tO become familiar with
them and I will discuss the matter with you as soon as I hear
from Mr. Upham,
‘Yours sincerely,
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THE SECRETANY OF LITE Navy,
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: Ne \Y October 18, 1910.
My dear Hr.Hutchison:-
I regret very much this delay ia answering
your letter regarding the requirements of marine
storage batteries, but the delay was caused by
rush of work in the office which prevented me
getting around to get the specifications; and
again, by the absence of the officer who has
cherge of this when an effort was made to get
the same.
The Navy is interested greatly in improved
storage batteries, and I trust that your efforts
to improve the quality and diminish the weight
of the marine storage batteries will be a success.
These specifications I think will give you a
sufficient guide as to the character of storage
battery desired.
Any further questions on this matter had bet-
ter be taken up with Lieutenant-Commander F.B.
Upham,U.S.i3., who has the direct charge of this
work in the Bureau of Ordnance.
Nishing you all success, I aya;
Yours sincerely,
Asante wS.N.
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transmission or delivery of Unrepeatcd Messages, beyond the amount of tolls pald thereon, nor tn any caso beyond the suin of Fifty Dollars, at which, unless otherwiso stated below, this
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My dear Mr, Edison,- Li ae
I have been very ort interefoed pods pny) {y
Past two years in quite a remarkable co pound cal sd Vo Voltax,
The Pennsylvania Railroad is using it Vee neg Serie eh
steel bridges and other metal work, en, seems to abso
prevent rusting, is an excellent insulator, will stand variations
in temperature, alkali solution etc,
It occurred to me it might be a fa Plan to
try this dupound on the battery jars instead of the grease,
If you can heat the jar to about 135 degrees and immerse in
Voltax of the same temperature, the resultant thin coating would,
I think, Prove valuable from rust proof and insulating standpoints ,
I am asking the Voltax.people to send you
@ gallon of this compound in case you desire to test it out,
Yours sincerely
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, N. J,
Dear Sir:--
The Citizens Traction Company of Oklahoma City is a corpor~
ation having in operation a street car line from the oity limits to
& large city park four miles therefrom. The company is desirous of
entering the city either upon a regularly constructed electric trolley
line or by making connections with some sort of an auto bus line.
The officers of the company have been noticing from time to
time that your batteries have been used in connection with a street
car for paved streets without track and trolley, and are desirous of
gaining all the information they can upon this subject as to cost of
installation and other matters that might be of interest under the
circumstances,
We have had some correspondence with the Beach Electric
Car Company, but we are particularly interested in the trackless and
trolleyless side of the question, so that a car could be operated
from the end of our line into the heart of the oity and around the
business section on paved streets.
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We would be under obligations to you for sending us such
literature as you may have on hand in regard to this matter,
Respectfully yours,
CITIZENS Bape COMPANY,
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Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
West Orange, Ne Je
My dear Mr. Edison:
In caso tho nature of this communication is not of interest
to you personally, please be so good as to refer it to the corporation, or the
persons, who are concerned with the dovolopment of the "Tracklass storage bat~
tery car," which is, according to the Sci. Amer. for oct. 22, 1910, page 311,
middle column, paragraph 6, "Another step in the evolution of suburban travel,"
When we came here about a year ago to accapt a position on the scientific
staff of the Department of Agriculture, our family decidsd, in accordance with
the advice of many of our colleagues, to try living in the suburbs. The retro»,
spect of our childhood on the farm has, for a number of years, causod my wife
and myself to long for an opportunity to give our children also the benefit of
the happiness and training for usofulness that generally results from life ona
farm. Accordingly, we spent considerable time, as much as we could for soveral
months, viewing the various suburban possibilities about Washington and finally
we chose a place a little off the usual boaten paths of suburban travel. This we
did for soveral reasons among which are the following:
1.The region, located on the wooded hills overlooking the potomac, is one
of great natural beauty and picturesqueness and the soil, as evidenced by oc
casional well kopt fields and orchards, seems to respond gonerously to intolli+
gent treatment, The locution is aimost idenlly adapted to the needs of a subure=
ban villago; provided adequate means of communication with the city could be
arranged,
2» The Chain Rridge crosses the Potomac at a distance of about 5-1/2 mi,
from the centers of business and departmental activity. It lies at the end of
the excallent Canal Road, which affords casy access to the city and its suporb
streets, The old Georgetown and Leesburg "Pike" starts on the Virginia side of
this bridge and runs up the river hills toward Langley, Fairfax co., Vae Glen
Isle, our little patch of 20 A., is about 1-1/2 mi. from the Chain ’pridge. Thes
rdad:for this:distdnceyiscexteodingly rough and difficult, although the bed of
the "Pike" is good and very durable and strong. The road is much in need of re«
\ surfacing and repair. It is, however, passable at all seasons of the year, An
Offre automobile should be able +o make the bridge from the city in 20 min. and the
climb up the hil to Langley (3 mi.) in an equal period or less,
3. The prices of land along the "Pike" have not as yet beon inflated by
realty operators and there is chance for a cooperative community to be formed,
- Hence you soo my deep interest in the article mentioned ubove. Please send
: full particulars concerning the car and your estimato of its aduptability to our
= (conditions. It is possible that we might arrange to try out a car ag the Edison-
Beach car was tried out on a surface line in New York recontly, The nearest elec
soeetrical current is at the Chain Bridge and the noarest “trolley! about 2/4 mi,
zs beyond, also up a hill and somewhat difficult to reach,
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It seems to us that there could hardly be better conditions, thanthese, for
C2 proving the merits of a "Trackless storage battery care"
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Dear Sir:
In accordance with your letter of Aug. Slst, I had ex-
pected to hear from you last month with reference to the matter
of submarine batteries, but so far I have heard nothing. I beg to
call your attention to the matter and trust that you will be able
to take it up at an early date. As submarine orders are separated
by periods running from a year to a year and a half, a few months
delay in preliminary work involves over a year's delay in results.
In connection with tne matter, I am enclosing you copy
of the results of the tests made here on five cells, Type B-4.
If the results obtained here are abnormal, I should be very glad
to have your views in explanation of the matter.
I have in hand now for certain European countries two
different designs of submarine boats in which other conditions
limit the battery space seriously go that they are peculiarly
suited for your battery. In the one case, the large cell would
be required involving development work; in the other case, I be-~
lieve we could use a cell practically identical with your Type
A-8. In that connection, will you be kind enough to give me the
following information:-
ifr. Thomas A. Udison. . ’ Nov. 2nd, 1910,
1. Have you a European factory and if so how does the
European price compare with tne American.
2. What discount can be obtained on orders involving
large numbers of cells.
3. If you have no European factory, could you quote
~ special export prices, and if 50, at what reduction
from American prices.
As the possible use of the A-8 cells is urgent, I would
be greatly obliged for early information on the subject covering
not only the inquiries as to prices, etc., but also the question
as to whether the cells would be free" -the defects shovm by. the
B-4 cells as indicated in the second and 3ra paragraphs of the
memorandum herewith.
Trusting that you will be able to give the matter your
early attention, I beg to remain
Very truly yours,
FLBAL
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EDISON STORAGE BATTERY, TYPE B-4,
In our tests of five cells sent to us by the Edison
Storage Battery Co., the following results were obtained:«
First--On the normal discharge rate (15 amp) the
cells gave the capacity in ampere hours claimed for them, but
the average voltage of the working part of the curve is 1.13
volts, instead of 1.2 volts as claimed.
Second--On discharging the cells at 25 amp. imue-~
diately following a charge, the reduction in ampere hour
capacity below that at normal rate was not excessive, but the
averare voltage was 1% lower than that at normal rate, being,
about 1.05 volts. The reduction is due to the high internal:
resistance of the cells. ‘This high internal resistance not
only causes a heavy drop in voltage but also causes the cells
to heat. The rise in temperature of the cells during dis-
charge was 38°F.
Third--When the cells stand sometime after charge,
before the discharge takes place, a very material reduction
in both ampere hour capacity and in average voltage occurs.
Even when the time of standing idle extends only from one day
to the next, the reduction in ampere hour Capacity is over 10%.
On standing 3-1/2 days, the ampere hour cupacity was reduced |
26%, taking the minimum voltage at .8 volts per cell. Not
only was the ampere hour capacity reduced, but the average
voltage was one-tenth of a volt (11%) lower than in the for |
mer case, On standing one month after a charge, the ampere |
hour capacity was not only still farther reduced, but the |
voltage curve assumed a complex form. When 35 ampere hours |
were taken out of the cells, the curve commenced to bend dow
as ‘though the end of the discharge was near. After a tine |
the curve bent the other way, and did not again bend sharply
down until 60 amperes total had been taken from the cells.
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November 3, 1910,
Mr, Thoman A. Adison,
Oranya, il. od,
My dear Mr. fdiscr,y-
Horevith cony of Letter to Rear~Admiral |
Mason, Also copy of lettec to Bee in reply to his letter of the
second instant,
battery 2s mach as possinle.
I pbomised the Tews VW. B. Pindlay, 699
-Ontario, Toronto, Canada,to remind ycu to send to him photegraph,
as per your promluc,e
. "he other gentlenan whe intreduced Dr.
Vindlay also wishes « pnotograph. I cannot at the monent
recall his name,
Yours sincerely,
THE NATIONAL BODY OF MOTOR CAR TOURISTS
THE ONLY ORGANIZATION IN COMPILERS AND DISTRIBUTERS
THE UNITED STATES HAVING OF ACCURATE AND RELIABLE
ITS OWN HEADQUARTERS TOURING INFORMATION
DEVOTED EXCLUSIVELY TO REPRESENTATIVES IN ALL THE
THE PROMOTION OF TOURING PRINCIPAL FOREIGN COUNTRIES
AUTOMOBILE ,
TOURING CLUB OF AMERICA
BROADWAY AT 76TH STREET
NEW YORK
November 3,1910,
Mr. Janes Ki, Anderson dr.
CY Edison Laboratories,
Vest Opange,N.d,
Dear iit. Anderson:—
Sometime ago the Civil Service Comission
held an examination for chauffeur examiners and among the
questions asked was one which read something like this:
"What is the specifie éravity of the solution
used in batteries of electric vehicles?"
There seens to be a difference of opinion
as to the ans wwér, which I contended was twelve hundred and
Willd you Be Kind enough to advise me regarding
this and greatly obili Ge,
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Wor. 4, 1910
Mr. Tf. OH Flliott, Esq.,
Touring Club of Aue rica,
Broadway & 76th Street,
New York City.
Dear Sir: .
In reply to yours of the 3rd inst, regarding specific
aravity of Electrolyte in Storage Batteries,
In the Edison Battery the Electrolyte consists of a
21% solution of (K.0.1.) Potash together with a small amount
of Lithium, The specific gravity Of a normal solution should
be 1,210 and should not be allowed to fall below 1.160, This
specific gravity would correspond to 26 degrees Baume's Hydrometer,
In the Case of the Lead Batteries where Sulphuric Acid
ie used the Specific Gravity of a battery fully charged should be
1.300 )34 degrees Raume) though a variation from 1.275 to 1.300
is allowable,
Hoping this will answer your question, I remain,
Respectfully yo urs,
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MILLER REESE HUTCHISON :
ENGINEER * THE EVENI
50 CHURCH STREET
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CABLE ADDRESS “MASSACON' NEW YORK
‘WHEN ACD FES
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NEWPORT, Nov. 3—Lient. Baldwin, |
_ commanding, and tho twelve men of the’
jerew of tho submarine boat Octopus, | oO 7)
inarrowly escaped suffocat{on, by tho ; ye hes,
fumes of sitphuric acld when she wag
subnierged in the bay yesterday,
Coming to the surface, the Octopus
signaled for assistance and was towed
in. Five men wero lifted out of the
| craft. and hurried to the naval hospital
| Two were quickly revived; one seemod
in very sorious condition. All will: re-
cover. i :
The Octopus, which has no tender, hag +
been practising ahd experimenting In
these waters, While she was diving yes-
{terday something went wrong with her
, batteries and the choking famos of tito
neld in them quickly Dermeated tho
craft, ‘In response to her algnals of dlsa-
tress a Inunch specded out from the
torpedo station and towed In the Octo-
pus. Commander Bristol hurrled out in
isTitinch and medical asalstance was
sent from the hospital, 3
Klaxons
November 7, 1910, .
Mr, Thomas A. Sdison,
Orange, N. J.
My dear Mr, Kaison,-
in conference today with the Lovell-McConnell
Mfg, Co., manufacturers of my Klaxon horn, I suggeated in our
literature and among our salesmen, we recommend the Jdison Battery
to operate Klaxons.
The battery you gave me last Spring is still
on the car, has been operating my Xlaxon all through the Summer,
amd has not yet been chargdéd since 1 raceived ib. From present
indications, it is good for at least six months more without
charging.
. The factory wants +o make a break-dewn test
to determine how ete times the battery will sound the Klaxon
vefore it is necessary to reehhagge, and I think it would be a
wise plan to send them two complete ignition vatteries Lor
similtaneous testing,
T do not think it would be advisable to put
out anything but tne Bismuth Battery on this work, because Klaxon
takes about eight amperes, and the battery when operating the
Elaxon, doas not rat enough discharge work te warm it up. As a
great many Klaxons are used in Winter, "there are ahout 35,000 in
use altogether today," I am afraid the regular battery would not
be on the job in zero weather,
Yours sincerely,
November 7, 1910,
Mr. Thomas 4. RBdinson,
My dear Mr, Edison,-
I am now dasigning a motor-cycle Klaxon,
I want to run it from a storage battery,
Onvidisisy the regular ignition battery
could not be carried.on a motor-cycle, ,
Do you contemplate making up a size bateany
baat canine uees in those small portabls lamps, such as you
have on your dent?
If so, T thanic a large number of tnese could
be sole for sparking moter-crycles and operating Klaxons thereon,
Tf you will get un this tape battery, we
will gell the motor-cyels Zlaxon somplete with battery.
Thares arog thousands of motor-cycles in use,
and as yet, there is no adequate horn for them, I will therefore
anticipate very large sales for a motor-cycle horn,
Yours slacerely,
Sanuk 7 ‘ :
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MILLER REESE HUTCHISON Ot
ENGINEER f.
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50 CHURCH STREET AY,
NEW YORK \ AD November 10, 1910,
CABLE ADORESS MASSACON NEW YORK
ur, Thomas A. Edison, AN
Orange, N. J,
My dear Mr. Edison,-
I am in receipt of letter and clipping from the
Boston Edison Company. The clipping is an embellishment of the one I
sent you, but with appended detail of results without stating the
cause of the gas.
This trouble was due to elther of two causes:
First: When cruising on the surface with hatches open,
and running before the wind, the exhaust gases,rising to the
surface from the exhaust pipe of the engine, pour down the hatches
and concentrate in the long compartment aft of the engine. The
engineer feels the gases first, but enough fresh air comes in to
enable him to disregard the gas. When the hatches are closed, and
the boat dives, this volume of heavy gas rolls forward, The lighter
air rises to the pockets formed by the wells of the hatches and
conning tower. Hence, the man forward, at the elevating and depress-«
ing rudder gear, is the first one seriously effected, The danger
zone then extends aft, as the boat ceases diving, and comes to a
horizontal position for sub-surface cruising. Even when cruising
on the surface into the wind, the back draft produced by the
conning tower and shape of the boat, drives the exhaust gas into
the after hatch, ;
Second: Chlorine gas produced by leaking jars, or slopping
over of electrolyte in too abrupt diving, will, as you know, produce
the same results, the man forward getting the gas first, because
een and salt water flow toward the bow of “n6 boat. as she is
divine.
“Thug I am unable to attribute the result to
either of the above causes without official information, which I
hope to secure in a few days.
I am returning the letter and clipping to you,
as you request,
Suggest that you start a submarine clipping book,
for reference, as I will forward all clippings that come to my notice
to you, and can lock them over in the laboratory, when occasion arises
Yours sincerely,
MILLER REESE HUTCHISON
ENGINEER
S50 CHURCH STREET
NEW YORK
CABLE ADDRESS “MASSACON"NEW YORK
ir, Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, N. J.
My dear Mr. Edison,-
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My conversation with Mr, Bédell of Me
Holland Boat Company was more or less disjointed hecause of th f é
derailment of the Beach Uar by the defective frog.., and the Ps
fact that I had nineteen people of more or less prominence in the i
party to look ‘after. fi
Summing the matter up: The Holland people
are very anxious to learn the performance of the proposed yf
submarine type, the plates being made up in such size as will 6 4
enable them to replace the presenr lead cells in boats already q
puilt, with the new cell, They have a definite space available
for batteries, and wish to fill this space as full of Edison wi,
Cells as it is possible to get it, \g
Would it not be possible to turn out simply
one positive and two negatives for preliminary tests? I realize
that the proper machinery must be made for making up the tubes,
filling etc., but I hope this ean be done and the three plates
turned out in less time than the. five months you'mentioned:.to me,
The Holland Boat Company's contract runs out
with the Exide people very soon, and I think they are figuring on
using Edison Uell exclusively, Mr. Bedell seemed exceedingly
anxious to get little more definite data than is at present
obtaining,
I am enclosing a letter received from McNair
today, which kindly return after reading,
The friends I took out on the Beach Var
Saturday predict for it a very brilliant future. Mr. Alfred I
duPont came over from Wilmington to look into the battery matter.
He wants to design up some electric locomotives for hauling
through his powder works, and also batteries for lighting his.’ .
residence, I am putting Billy Bee on his trail.
Yours sincerely,
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uésore Edison and Dodge:
, In the new, regularly-assembled, "A8" plate
groups which you sent me I find the metallic resistances and resultant
volt losses to be as follows:
Nickel Group.
Total resistance from pole top to eight mid-points of
the parallelled plates: .000189 ohm. This resistance is divided
up as follows:
Pole, 35%
Rod & Washers, 15.2%
Plates, 49.8%
Iron Group
Total resistance from pole top to nine mid-points of
the parallelled plates: .0002187 ohm, divided up as follows:
Pole, 50.2%
Rod & Washers, 17.2%
Plates, 52. 5%
Adding the resistances of the two groups the total motallio
resistance is found to be .0004074 ohm, or about 20% of the average
internal resistance (.0019 ohm) of the "A8" cell.
' According to these figures the metallic resistance
(Maximum) in a new "48" cell woulda cause volt losses a8 follows:
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At Normal At 4 x Normal
Rate Rate:
Volt loss in poles, «0079 ©0317
OP "rods & washers, 20040 0159
nO " plates, - 0125 0502
Total, per cell, 0244 -0978
In percentage figures, the metallic volt losses would be:
‘At normal rate, 2% of average voltage.
" 4x normal rate, 9% " ss
In a 60-cell battery of AS cells this would amount to:
1.44 volts at normal rate.
5-76 " "“ 4x normal rate.
I have also made measurements of metallic resistence of
groups taken from an "A8" ‘eell which had had 3 or 4 discharges, and
then was given a severe lateral Jolting treatment, and have found in
this case that the contacts had deteriorated greatly, . showing increased
of resistance of 18% in the nickel © group and 57% in the iron group.
_ These results show that metallic resistance is a considerable
factor in the case of ‘the "A8" cell, and also that the contact system,
‘now used, ‘is liable to much deterioration.
_ The: conductivity of the. poles, plates and connecting rods
shoulda be inoreast as much: AB ‘4a feasible. ‘Also, I would urge the nec~.
cessity of improving ‘the present . contact, system, and would suggest that
autogenous welding of the tubes and pockets with their. -respeotive grids
and of the grids with the connecting. rode, “aif found practicable, would
produce ideal conditions, both as’ to condiiotivity and as to permanence
of contacts.
Welter ‘E. Holland.
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Dear Mr. Edison, Vv
About a week ago, while in conference with Geo. W. Young
and Dr. Ricketts, of the well known firm of analytical chemists~
Ricketts and Banks, Br. Ricketts said ne has in his employ a very
bright man, a chemist, who has succeeded in extracting nickel from
nickel<copper-iron ore etc., in a perfectly commercial manner.
At the time, owing to the other matter in hand, I did not
realize the importance of the statement. This afternoon, while talk«
ing to Ralph Beach in Young's office I suddenly remembered, and
called up Dr. Ricketts to verify the statement.
He says it is true. I then said I thought you would
propably be interested in learning of it, as I understand you are
paying a pretty stiff price over the cost to produces af per
pound, and furthermore own a nickel mine.
I have asked Dr, Ricketts to go out to the Laboratory
when convenient to talk this matter over with you. He says he can
make it early next week.
Do you want to see him? If so, I will arrange a daye
I returned from Boston today and am arranging my data to
report to you the result of my trip to the Electric Boat Co's yard.
Will be out Thursday afternoon tomorrow.
Sinceraly,
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nog g, the. following is a report of my visit to the Works |
of the Bleatric Boat Co., Quincy, Masu., Nove29, I9TO.
- -<TlIave no ‘ship-yvard of their own. Lo¢ated in yard of
VoresRiver Shipbuilding Co, to whom they uublet contracts
| for all, heavy. work on their -hoats on -AtLlantic-Uoast, with
WORK IN HAT
PERSOUNEL
yinilar arrangement with concern on Pacific Coast. :
eee Present building about T25! X 06", 2 storien, ano.
Pwnich is Located their large drafting reom( aooub 25 dratts=
men), their generat. orfices, and a machine shop ( about
6O men) Yor asuembly of svialler party, ALL ocritracte tor
908% of their parts let to outside shops,
‘they are building two large submurines for U.S.Navye |
Mach about 135 feet Lotig, Will be launched sonetine next _ .
Sumner, WALL soon start to muild three more of sane type on
Paucitic Coaht, which will be launched sometime during Spring
TOP TOU Bg rrr rr rn re res per oenaon Lees
fhe batteries are installed in one of ‘the two boats
budidings..and. contranted for ow other -one. Nhe three on: ---c ce
Pacific Coast could be equipped with Wdison battery if
,data oan he procured quickly.to incorporate an. final design.
this, no doubt, owing to
nies
WWwiLL supercede these ngelish ansines. lt aE 2 cycle)
y vhey seem very’ anxious: to procure the best of every-
hing Zor their product...Very. progressives Do.good work.
Spear in the businesu head aud Lobbyist. Bedell
sot Xe bout” hall oriiinedr Mid halt wisatioss man- protty ehrewd
meee et nee a a ed oe BAD
“tup to her work
PIWANCES :
fi- evar -talked-withj—thoroughLy-ou- to-his-—jobj-rery-anxious-~
ery | Ree en Cert ee ee eee Eee een = ete me
indavidual. Ndgar is electrical enzineer, ana one of the best
to use Hdiuon cella; prolific in new ideas regarding Hdison
(Gell improvenents; seens.to. thoroughly understand tM ~ lone nn
general lay-out of the cell; has designed’ large cell to
neet subrmerine requirenents,’ wased on $" cube negatives etce
they"have another nan Who is their expert on tuning a boat
after completion. : 7
iat occa ot cy At pe gt en ney cot i ee ae tn fem Amr
Didnt, succeed in finding out very mich about this.
Bedell remarked they expect to increase their capital soon,
to take care of a new works they are building near/Quincy,
: and asked me if I thought you would be interested jn
investing in their Company, I: told him you never go into
outside ventures es you have your hands full with sour
own ideas, I told him I might be able to passist bh m if
they desire.( I could get the money together for them if
they will let in enough to make it wortn while from the
standpoint of a voice in adopting Vdison Battery exclusive~
Ly without calling on you for extlusive rights to Edison
Cell Yor eubmarine work), He said he would communicate
with ne later reparding this,
at ve eee J. have made.no..Cemmercial Aganey investigation as
. to “their utanding. Sugeest you do this, or I will it you
desire. _ ‘
POLICY: a ' They seem cery anxious to avoid antagonizing the
peter “"Mawy Depurbtadit in cvany wey, because ain the-hesginning: the------
ik virine wes looked upon with disdain by battleship adheren
- Tits. intradusts. on. elie heen Diatnnens work, which
lead 0: televise and. _ganolene | engines. The ponte th bay h
peen built have been Poreced on the Navy hy Concredy iA
poking appropriations for their construction. Shis| has veen
“ace onplished by the expert Lobbying of Spear. Hut the
Nepartnant hae avakened to the poss vibilities ov the bube-
twrine, and thezr advance. wilt henceforth be more. rapid.
SATTDARY “ART RM che ready market fur the EBdieen battery Lies in
renewals for boats already in service in Bnflana ahd Amer~
dea. About twelve of the U.S. boats will soon need) new
battery equipment. The Cuttlefish and -taruntula need then-
(-- -thiw Winter but Io may be able “to"persuade Admiral! Cone to
wait until next Winter on ail renewals. Lei oeecbnrtes
It wag to meet this reudy denand that Edrear
.-. up the cell, “blveeprints of vhicn Bedell gave you.
detehil remarks under Propoued Submarine ype Batt
designed
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“EXPECTED DEVELOPS NYE OT ek re EGE aS Tes Ae
It takes but Little readin: between the Lin
‘Fine eo Pirm dapreunioen iv. the -ninds- of--those peopl
& very large devand will soon come trom South Aerio:
Countries for submarines. In tropical. waters, av fy
it is next to impoynible to operate lead batteries. uae
my former report), So the succens of the submarine very
‘largely ‘dévends on the Bdison pattery, and nobody kppreciates
this fact more than the EVB.Co. They asked me at Least
-a dozen times to impress om-you-tho daportance. of. jearly.
data to then on which they cen base their calculations. It
gee fa Waa. very anusing Lo wee their abterps. to hide their anxiety
on thin point. ‘
FEELERS: ~ as ” Bedell auked ne what” our ideas were ‘rerardinig
tying up with then exclusively. Wishing to evade the ques-
tion, IT replied that we want -to. see what can. be. produced
in the way of a cell suited for tie work before’ considering
the business side at all. In other Wo ras I want toe let them
keep at work advising us in adapting the battery to submae
rine work, without commiting ourselves on a business
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DESIGHEN CELL’
He then asked if any of their competitors had appro-
.ached us on the battery subject. to this I replied that
no other submarine company ssened as tsuch alive to the
| importance of the Hdison Cell, doubtless dve to their not
having -foLLowed: “the-aubj ect up- aE ‘sLosely-as~ ‘the hh. BsCoe:
iI told him that practicaily all the ened are keenly inter-.
euted and.constantly asking Lor sore.details, which were
heing given them in general terms, Thia seemed to increase
| their desire for ready data for caleulations.
policy.
Z cannot impress on you too gtrongliy the nucenuity —
} for covering up everi- ‘important detail of construction of
this sublmarine cell, an it developed, vecause I think J.
/ SOO..an inclination. on. he-part-of the db. .Co.-to-attenmt to
,erowd in ahead of you on some of these. the guestion or
‘viveting the nine A nize plates to the lar, ateel bu
|piate cane up. Thia coils Yor several hundr
plate. Hdear sakd he had evolved a cheap method of doing
‘thin, which -he-could not divulee to me untii-he had talked
with Srear, because it is patentable. Hu also culled avten~
| tion to. the. date.of his. dvawing..of. ausenbled cell, snowing. .
what he clains is an improved vas vent and vallane ing
over present practice. I told him there are a eet ed
Pdivrerent ways ot attacning A ‘plates to Larcg
hat the combined Salling bung and yas urap was one oF
Virst-things-you-thoughtof-yearn-aro but deeded against
on vehicle batteries tor prac tional revsons. (At the vane
pand Final Liquid trap dooks pretty good bor thie yurpoue)
. Wdear surpested that it you decide to retain the
hn ‘tube nerative plates and prevent A’ Deaths both thick-
ened “Up an the plates, - the: CELT be oulled tine AATS Type; .
because each’ plate would ne corposed of $,~A positive
-OT. Neeat dre--plates,- and-I6 -pusitives. per. “Call. -ALeo -that- it
you. use the ure tubes, you call the cell:. a¥pe Yrh-52 the
jlast. nu ber depending ym NUEDe Lr of pouitir 3 SOU, Bet ane.
While this is “unimportant he. laid stress on at for sone
~ Hhe Gell: “eis 7 The! dew Signed itis of correct width,” and
.the new cell wust.not be even.a, sixteenth of ean sued. wider,
tau he eant sat the- oath mein -O1--Celig -in existing
battery tanks uboard boats’ service. The cell can be ;
pan higher over all, ir “TOGeHSATY,. aud # little thicker. They
have got to ‘get twice ag many Mdsson Cells in the seme space
lan they have Lead cells, to get. the requisite voltace for
increased very much. ;
wee Nhe _}/P_.choun-an—_oblong_—opening—in—top- or COLL Ha oe
his is a flat tuhe extending .te. bvettom Of. cell,, between
side of Jar and end. plate, and. rn
jnut, of courne, ie thinks. such. an ‘arrangement will facil~
itate taking electrolyte out when necessary to renew, Some
such’ a een ne WLYL nave to “be mnades he: troponred vo “stop
bhi tube up by hammering, into the top a rubber stopper of
fly tae: This kind of nubterfuge is not Bdison Batiery practice,
}proper~ shape ;- a lene these: utoppers- when-renewing eLlectro-
holding plete,
-tine, that combination. helias worked out, with.iwo seruens. 01.
préaant equipment; and thererore we th seknewe yuye Tot" pen
the _thiimer than. the end...
but I Let it pass without corinent. :
: They support their cells now on moulded el
“pleces which dove-tail together end on, alternate
provided with tuyers to perait' flow cf any frea e
“Lyte that mignt have-slopped over into the tank.
supports wre aoout I" high, 2" wide and 8" long e
oo are placed-acrosy: the pot tor ot: the-jar--at right
to plates. Boley proposes to use somewhat’ sinilar
supports for Hdison cells. . -this-point needs. loo
The Jars of present lead colla are placed
ments rede up of I" wood vourds, -painted with aci
“Cornvotnd.” ALL the” positives are "noaked ‘Gn Loa’ ro:
extends to the resatives of the cell ahead and vo
“connections thug-run-fore-and-aft- of-the coat, th
‘alin athwartesahip. ae prevents the vate r-herane
of thc. ECE CTO. fie on. the sides of the. Jace wer
piteohes: in a nea, or dives. Alto does not was
- tive material Lroin the piales ag rapidly.
eS ev Ure Ste ne on placine Bdison Geils
: plates athrarteship, ¢o their connestions will re
Eases their: sbandard: for-und-aft-s ects They- eidnt- state dius
Propose to sepurate the jars. Whigs point veuds ¢
E - .AbTUntLon wag called: tothe 2a¢gt 42: he
they desiened up wan on current density procurabl
“L" tubes and the cell witb bove-to he’ rerculoulist
“outs Yer the E tuhas. 7% Min As obvions,
INFORHATION DRGTRED: 7605 2 - i eaten emt asic eae. fa
ss
oned
Jectro-
dhese
yen and
angle
lass
King into. .
n corpurt=
d proot(' 9) )
which ~
One ALL
q plates
y effect
ihe boat
t the ace
“ALLL te |
maaan
t how they: -
Lentdonns
foul
fra the
dd thr Ou alls
They want ae Guaelag A 2G >» Neini bie, the Tolidwing data:
Hesis of. 4" tubes, Plates..o. A. size yak
sige 8 high(aa 3 3 ct ont cin their KA
e+e charging rate:
(i) Pischarpe curves of “Tr, 2, aré 3 hour
(2) Proper spacing hetwean plates
x C8} ‘Blectrolyte e quantity and welent
(4) -‘Tenyerature curves at I,2,and_ o hour
raten, coll -oing-ercased. in. suc
‘tors ag you propose to use seas
Torm to operating conditions. ALJ in
temperature off apuroximately GO
(S$) Tenperabuse cirve of charse under san
oe und -
20ur
Nee
eecuneae
YH popara..
to cons
air.
ee Salir.
onda +
tions Torour-eva s$iang: jallenonthor: imebaotacrorapedppueaten
as you recommend.
PRICE: They seemed anxious to leam: sovething ut
nite ap
to proposed price, Tried to convey the iupresgion tiat they
‘expect # cheaber price then the: lead tatiery euqi
< tohd then it as rather early to talk prices, un
ra ‘circumstances, but that I~ didnt see that the pric
' especial difference wien the cifferenee inthe -be
mente
er the
by riade any-
Leries
» oo... dg considered and -Ospecialiy. LP? tne battery should ve _
‘specified hy the variour davies, :
Io was a good Lietener:
Sincerely, ~ ee ge
ad. a
Sere pe (Sather y
December 2, 1910,
Mr, Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, N. J,
My dear Mr, Edison,-
I find I have several curves of the special
cell No, 6, naving 1/8" tubes, which in some way were filed without
being brought to ny attention,
T am forwarding one of these curves to the
Holland people teiav, with statement that actual results of
manufactured cell wilt eclipse this performance by fron 2555 to
?
30%,
: tan leaving for Washington tonight, and will
report reeult of wy trin Mendav.
Aa a raminder, plesan get the poo wou were
going «6 put my varioun reports in for lonation, near your deBx.
You promised me one of those large photo«
graphs of yourself at work in tha Laboratery, such an Js nanging
in the library fear the statue, T wish vou would write on this
"Zo Hutch ~ fhosig 4.) Nddeon," T want to have 44 framed ana huang
in my ofvice along with sample board of Edison Cell, which Billy
Bee is going to send me, , ay
I have sense enough to see that the devotion
of a great deal of time to the Edison Rattery and Bdison-Beach
Car will prove vary remunerating, and am therafora giving these
matters precedence over all others, I have, after years of affort,
built up quite a formidable array of financial ahd personal,
connections which J can use to great advantage on this wor, and
want you to feel that whatever I undertake for you will be given
the very best attention in my power. I have not tackled anvthing
yet that I have fallen down on, and want tc have this record ob-'
tain in my work with you.
Yours sincerely,
f : ; Dec. 6, 1910.
Messrs. Dodge, Bee, Wakeman, Golgstein & Christiansen:
An important change in our present practice has been
approved by Mr. Edison, namely, thet 25% KOH and 15 grams LLiOH per
liter be made the Standard Renewal Solution, tobe used in all
cases where cells in service require refilling due to their solution
becoming weak. 7
Thits change has nothing to do with the first filling of
cells, but only affects the present practice of refilling.
The supply of 21% KOH end 20 grams L1i0H per liter now on
hand may be used up for refilling, but thereafter ita use is to be
discontinued entirely.
< The ‘nortial ‘spedific gravity of the new Standard Renewal
Solution, at the different temperatures met with in practice, is
to be determined by ttre. Goldstein and reported to the vapaoud de-
partments interested.
Walter E, Hollend.
W.EAL rm
al
December I3, I9I0
Dear fir. Edison,
. There are over 40,000 users of Klaxon today.
Every one of them is using some kind of battery.
There is no reaspn why all of them shonza not use Edison
Battery, and the majority of them would do so if they knew of the
wonderful performance on ny care .
I am enclosing herewith a letter which I suggest you
publish in all the automobile papers with vroper additional matter
to bring it out . You wiil find it will pay to do ga. A copy of
it, with literature of Edison Rattery, should be mailed to every user
of Klaxon. I have, a record of all purchasers, with credit rating.
Perhaps it will come in handy.
I am in this Battery job heart and soul, and am following
out your request to cali your attention to anything I think of
which may prove valuable, in lines outside of my submarine depart-
ment. ,
Now is the time to ram the ignition battery hard, for next
Spring's business.
- Sincerely,
MILLER REESE HUTCHISON
ENGINEER
50 CHURCH STREET
NEW YORK
CADLE ADDRESS “MASSACON"NEW YORK December 14 th, I910
Edison Storage Battery Co.,
West Orange, Ned.
Gentlemen,
On May Ist.,I9I0, I placed one of your Be4, 5 Cell ;
Ignition Batteries on my automobile, for operating my Klaxon
Warning Signal.
Since that time, now practically eight months, my car
has been driven approximately I2,000 miles in daily service,
During this entire period I have never put a drop of
water in the batteries, AND HAVE NEVER CHARGED- THEM,
They have never failed to operate the Klaxon, and are
today up to full voltage and evidently good for several months
mores before re-charging will be necessary.
I consider this a wonderful performance and, as the
inventor of the Klaxon, cannot too highly recommend your battery
for use therewith,
Miller Reese Hut-
chison invented the
famous Klaxon Horn
May we send you a for automobiles
Catalogue and other saa a
information about the ~ Read what Mr. Hut-
new Edison Storage :
Battery? chison says about
Edison Storage Battery Co. ' the Edison Storage
101 Ashland Avenue, 5 Batte ry.
Orange, N. J.
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Mr WH norfenl: 'st\baper }
Baers before the meeting of,
the Electric Vehicle Associatior
of America, Tuesday t recat og f
al admirable. It cannot recel vg sth .
wide publicity.
I cannot but thin! thagh
_ with your battery Pintsch cae -
% lighting on railroads can WalMe
rot tirely displaced. Is not the be
re 4 et moment "psychological" for a
& _wad! Suggestion from you to the,fail- ij
# road manarers.
it / Very sincerely
Q } J tacoma Wetad ee
‘ > | el Wishing yowthe Compli- rat
§ PR of "ts Sat,
sad a ny,
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Form 1048
THE WESTERN UNION TELEGRAPH COMPANY.
INCORPORATES
24,000 OFFICES IN AMERICA. CABLE SERVICE TO ALL THE WORLD.
‘This gals Company De punted mined byrne Messages ares guly on conditions limiting Its lability, which have been assented to Se tho following m
ol
hgoins ting am to the sending station for com ison, and the Com, wil) ‘old Itself Hable for orrorsor delaye
in trannies ordollvery o! thot eaced M coningon aos, beyond ae aes tolls paid id thereon, nor iu any caso where thoelaliy is ‘within sixty daya
aftor th lon,
is od with thy
Th eas UNE Boe ee
at 4 and Ind {s dolivered hy request of tho sender, undor tho conditions named above.
ROBE. oT C. CLOWRY, President and General Manager.
A Sp
DEC 29 Gi ‘=
December 22, 1910,
Mr. Thomas A. Edison,
Granga, %. J.
My dear Mr, Peisan,- .
Herenith please Sind letter. fron Captain
Bartieht which kindly return after reading.
Have just spert an Interesting 45 winutes
with dear of the Rlectric Seat Company, Tald him we do not feel
juntified in tying up with any boat. company now, and furthernore,
do not fasl shat we would be deing juwtic: to ‘ie £, V. Company,
by recommending thas they tie up with us at preannt,. To dvelt
on tis fact thas wa nave not made tha sulmexine pottery yet, and
while lt mav be perfectly satisfactory, vou have to be shown on
a thing before you will dacide ona way or the other about it, I
then asked nin why thav do not make their own lead batteries in-
stead of 43 up with anyone, as pasted plate ¢s an exceedingly
simple acticla of manntachura, and would lnava them fraq to
purchase our battery op any other bathery they might desire for
special surdoses. Ha tried fo pin me down to a statenent ag 40
waether or nok wa would care to connider tying up with tries at
sone future time, andi T wan very careful to state we would come to
no dzcigion regarding tnat now, He was not nearly so bombastic ":
and dictatoré41 today as he was on Tuesday, and finally wound up
by saying he would try to keep the bars down, so that they yould
be free to hook up with us if we denlre thea tc do so at any
Future time, Ssemead rather disappointed nut antagonastic, and
offerad to cooverate in any way they can meanwhile. I think the
matter gtands ina very esate condition now, and that we are playing
save no matter what way the cat jimaps§
. ' Wishing youa very happy Uhriatmas and many
more of them, I cemain,
Yours sincerely,
ead
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Ke TO ALL EMPLOYEES OF THE EDISON STORAGE BATTERY COMPANY:
Mr. Dodge having resigned as General Manager of the
Edison Storage Battery Company, on and after January 1, 1911,
Mr. George F. Scull will act as General Manager.
FRANK L. DYER,
12/27/10. Vice-President.
Sate, es iris SO TRE TaN
Inspection
1 + perforated stock before use in tube machines, to ascertain
if holes are open, if the size of holes have not changed but
follow a stancard gauge, to see that the holes next to scam aro
smaller than those avay from seam so tube will not split by a
swelling of mixture, to sce that the thickness of the stock is
the tame within agreed linits both for iron and nickel tubes ~
Test the tensile strength of the perforated strip crosnwise one
inch square. Test the nickelphating to see if right angunit:
put on = test if the nickol 1s welded perfectly to the steel
af a check against having too low a temperature in the anrieal-
ing pot. Test wicth of ribbon which should not very between
agreed limits. test the grinding of the burrs so that the
hole shall not be too small or too large. Test if the grind=
ing has been even across the whole width of the strip not more
on one side than the other, producing large and small holes,
Soe that the width of the perforated portion of the strip 1s
always the same, so as to catch any mistake in using a now
master die. Inspection must be hourly or as often as will
prevent making any great amount of waste: stock. The steel
strip 158 very expensive, and any mistake should be auickly
ascertained to save waste aS well as to insure proper tube
stook.
Tubes should be inspeoted on end to see if proper
lap, Af proper length and diameter both ends, inside and out,
«lo
if lap is right length of spiral right, and if properly cleaned
for final use, and this done hourly from machinos.
That cups are proper as to size and shape and properly
cleaned for ute.
Tubes after ends flattened inspected for cracked ends and
insufficient length for clamping in Grid, or not flat, also
Spacing of rings, tightness, otc.
A certain number daily of the tube rings from each batch
daily must be tested in test machine for tensile strength,
inspected for niokel plating, calliper thickness of stock,
burrs, width. :
The caps used in ends of tubes inspected for calilper,
plating and cleanliness, |
The ends of the tamps in tube loading machines inspected
to be sure they are not wearing noticeably and thoy are to be
replaced if worn beyond an agreed amount, also if the contour
of the end is appreciably worn, or if the end has roughened
as if not polished, it broake the flake and makes a bad tube.
The calliper of the molds should be inspected at least
twice a month to see that the ‘holes are not worn in spots or
aB a whole. 7 ,
The Company will fnspect the filling machines even if
worked by contractors, the Company furnishing a traveling ine
speoctor to pass along machines and see that all are feeding
right and call contractors attention to sticking tamps and
bad feeds, The night inspector to be under the day inspector
~2=
and both under the Inspection Dept. The contractor has no
control of these inspectors, they are on tolled for this
specific job. I propose Walter Archer for this job, as he
has had seven years experience.
Twenty or more finished tubes are to be taken each day,
the nuniher to be agreed uyon, aut ‘open and tested for eya and
@lectrical contacts.
A traveling inspector will test for aalliper, ete., all
parts being made by screw machines, other machines te stop
instantly any preduction of bad parts by wear or displacement
of tools, Alay punchings, crid, ate., can in course cf
manufacture, welding. ALL parts made in shop are to be brought
into the inapector's room daily and inspected upon zgreed
gauges ‘and turned into the stock room - probably same system —
as is now in vogue at Phonograph Works ~ don't want to delay
inspection to find several hundred parts wrong before it is
found out. Every inspeotor onalil have his mark either to go
on ihe article or on the box, showing that he has passed it, and
nothing goes into stock room without mark or slip that it is
passed and in 0. KX. to be given out.»
All assembled tube plates finivhed shall be inspected for
tichtening of tubes, for cracks in leaf holding tube, for
rights and lefts, for spacing of rings, for spacing of tubes,
for flatness of tubes, which must not exceed a cortain amount,
as it makes short circuits possible, for calliper of grid, etc.,
ose
a
aS ERT EST Le EEE EET a eee ORS ol
On I ge pe ee me
and particularly burrs on holes in erid where connected to
poles. Sane to apply to tron plates if pockets not loose,
for pockets badly fitted, for proper corrugating and prosaing,
for flatness, for thickness of pockets, which must not excead
a certain amount, otherwise there is danger of bulging the
can, a& the several irons when too thick bulge the whole CRBC
of grids, especially if tubes are hot flat enough, and makes
assembling difficult.
Tho iron pockets after filling to be inspected as well
for weight, soft ends, and flaws in cups, closing in, oto.
It is very essential that the hole, both in iron and
nickel grids, through which the pole pieces pass, shall be freo
of burrs and very fiat and that the washer also should be very
flat. Othorwise, when a cell is asnembled, the area of con»
taat will bo lessened, and if there is any burr or the wapher
is not flat and smooth, the contact or current will only pass
through a fow points and as current on a hill is very heavy,
thene points will heat and the resistarioe of the cell increased
enormously, and in some cases fail to Grive the vahicle, This
is one of the most particular parts of the cell,
Many dismantled cells of old type show that instead of
grid touching washer all over, it only touched in a few spots,
All parts of the cell should be inspected for perfect
nickel plating, and what is as important, that the welding ane
nealing prooess should have been carried out at such a temperae
ture that there is a good weld. I have found several cases
where tubes have not been through the annealing process and
4a
in one case where ‘they have never been nickel plated.
~ Inspection of the knives for cutting flake
should take place constantly; also the squares should be
inspected for pure (if the knife gets dull it makes a
bur and then it isvery difficult to separate the flakes
after copper has been eaten away). ‘hin in a very im-
portant point - sharp kni¥es - no bur.
All flakes should be inspected before given out -
inspected for books and loading weight.
All nickel hydroxide should be inspected for
dirt; for sizing. Alno the crushing devices inspected
50 that too much fines are not made, as these must be
returned to Chenioal Works to be worked over again at
considerable exymsen, without the crushing and sizing
devices are constantly inspected = these fines will run
up +. Also, the drying of the green must be inevected,
the green should be perfootly dry before use.
The green should not show any fine float dust
after rendy for maghines, as this prevents green from
flowing even in the chutes. : |
All rubber parts as received from factory must ;
pass thru inspection dept. to am agreed guuge - as well : 4
as the separators which should be returned to inspection
dept. for inspection as to size. The sheets from which
they are cut should be inspected as to size before being : i
given out for cutting. the cutting machine for outting : i
separators should be watohed for temperatures and sharp-
~5e
ness of knives so there shall be no bus.
All rubber parts should be treated in the hypo-
chlorite sal und sy stem devised so that no rubber can
get into sian to be worked up unless it has been treated
in the hypo-solution. It is parti qularly necessary to
have a full assembly gauge to gauge the side hard rubbers
to see that the slots are in proper po sition and to hold
the rubber prople up to an allowed vari ation, as they
are very liable to change their compound and temperatures
of vulcanization and give us distorted pieces which
makes ussembling of cell difficult und makes a bad crook-
ed bunch of plates with liability to short oircuits.
Rvery week one sample part of each large shipment should
be sent to Goldstein for analysis to see if they are not
putting in deleterious substanoes,.
Every bunch of cell plates before putting
in the can should be passed by an inspector and finally
before welding the top on, inspected ugain. Also ine
spected for ponition of separators, side pieces and see
if pieces are marked right, if bottom piece is in, if thin
sheets me in position, if plates are sorewed fast, eta.
All cans should be ins oted, tested and pass-
ed before the elements are put in.
One of the most dangerous things ip the use of
wrong solutions in cells. we kinds of solu ion is now us
~G=
ed, 219% KOH with strong Lithia for new cells, and 25%
KCH with weak Lithia, to send out for renewing nolutions
of cells already out, if by mistake the strong lithia
“solution is sent out for renewing the cells will be ruin-
ed. Hence, there must be devined a system whereby this
never can take place; muarking plainly whut is in the can
does no good, os renewal solutions have been shipped
from Works with 42% KOH, and notwithstanding the fact that
the can was marked Ss as ~ 4195 KOH.
i suggest all renewal solution be shipped from
the Laboratory at present, wnd always shipped in small
cans and thut an inspector from the Works comes over,
tests the specific gravity and gee it put on wagon for
shipment, and that only one grade of KOH be sent to battery
vorks - if there in any mistake, ve wan then spot ‘ite
The machinery for the new tray will be ready and
ve set up;in about three weeks in a month we should be
making them. Whese will ve ‘ade’ in jigs and special
machinery. thepaerts as being made should be inspected
and the trays aft@ finishing, should be insp ected and
no crate-of cells ev & shipped out without the inspec-
tor's mark thereon. |
We will furnish 9 tank and material ‘to dip the
parts of the tray before assembling. Your tool room
should make the dies, etc., for the von parts connected
to the trays¢ -
~ Je
ff
l have rigged up a temporary place for mamfag-
turing the dope and will furnish it from the Laboratory.
4t is essential that the goon noua be thorough
ly seasoned, if not it changes our dipping so it eannot
be used.
The Aickel hydroxide varies considerable in
cupacity - some batches give high capacity und some low.
lience, when a set of cells hae been tested they should be
aesorted as to capacity as near as possible so sxamkx all
the cells of a group should be alike.
fhe test cells should be filled to o predeter-
mined point and allowed to soak for «a predetermined number
of hours, then any water put in shoul d be put in by the
signalling filler, so they all Have ths same height,
thus reducing the slopping out of solution and reducing
the srecific grarity. Heretofore, cells hwe been ship-
ped out with varying specific gravities - this should be
stopped and nu predetermined method adopted so they will
go aut with not less than 20% KOH. ‘he tops while teste
ing should be kept clean.
: The connectors, poles, und lugs should be thor-
oughly inspected and watched all through the shap, and
finally in the test room for good contact and detection
of any changes by wear of tools, which should lower the
area of contact and thus produce heat and loss of voltage
on heavy discharge.
=~Be
As soon us the new crate is fully adopted, the
operation on the cans of the boss on the sides and also
the indentations on the bottom can be given up, but not
until the new trays receive general approval outside.
the iron parts on the tray need not be nickel-
plated as the dope prevents rusting.
9.
I suggest that the two principal men who have charge of
the preparation of the tube and cup stock be given a contract to
Prepare this stock and have all supplies and labor charged to them,
as well as the steel and tool room work, so that they shall be, in
fact contractors and pay for all spoiled raw stock, That we set
a price 40% lower than what the cost is now to us, and then
Guarantee wages and agree that this price shall hold for one year ,-
and they to make all they can above wages; that the work must be
in quality as per inspectors instructions and that any excess
earnings be paid for monthly,
All stock they use to remain in stock room and they only
take out what is daily needed, which is charged to them, Work in
progress will be inspected by our inspector, but this not to relieve
contractors from being charged with bad work,
That if contractors desire some special device to cheapen
work, that it will be made at cost and charged to them and paid for
out of their profits, and if it is successful the Company will
refund the money when the contract expires, If the contractors
fail to improve and cheapen the work the Company to have the right
to rescind the understanding on giving thirty days notice, ‘The
Company reserves the right to object to any men used by the contractor
which they have reason to believe is incompetent, or can be replaced
by a more competent man, All work done in tool room, repairs,
etc, to be churged contractors with General Expense added, as well
as cost of stock,
Note ‘Two
I think a large saving could be made by having either the
Laboratory of Phono Works furnish pipe fitters, carpenters eto,
for particular jobs when wanted, The tendency of each works is to
keep a carpenter and fitter for odd jobs; when these odd jobs in
the course of a month might not take a week, Menare taken on for
arush job and are not laid off, The men always find something to
hold on to, If any department wants a job done let them make out
a requisition for man and then, having previously arranged with
Laboratory or Phono. Works, the job can be done by their men and
charged to the Company, In this way we can carry carpenters,
blacksmiths, pipe fitters etc, at one point and keep them all busy.
It is the same way with laborers, There should be a general
laboring gung from which each of the works can draw from, for ,
particular jobs.
I think that the making of tubes and cups should be let
out to two contractors working together as one contractor-on same
basis as the strip and that all spoiled work and not passing
inspection, should be charged them eto,
If either of. these two contracting gangs want to have
included as partners of a tool-maker in tool room to insure cheaper
repairs to them,- they to have the privilege; his wages then being
charged to them, on their jobs, —
Note Three
I think the tube filling job should be contracted out
to three partners, two on days and one on nights. All spoiled work
to be paid for, They delivering tubes, ringed and complete to us
ready to ussemble in batteries. Also they are to pay a set fine
per 100 tubes when the electrical tests show an uverage varig¢ation
bewteen the highest and lowest capacity of the tubes, of more than
75 mil. amp. hours; or in lieu of this, when the percentage of
split tubes falls below a certain average for flake contructs by
eye and by electric contact testing machine
Note Four
I think the whole can job could be put on contract
with two partners,
Ditto:- The screw machine parta,
Flake plunt including cutting sheets in squares,
disolving out copper ana delivering over falke to the. Company
for a fixed alin We charging current and all supplies, the
quality to be of a certain kind, to be determined by agreed
tests,- all repairs paid by contractor,
Note Five
A complete stock list book should be started for raw
stock and finished stock bought outside, and a minimum amount
agreed upon, below which if it falls, it must be replenished by
new Gedadat This minimum will depend upon the daily output and
also the time required to obtain new supplies after the stock
has fallen to a minimum,
No experimental machine suall be mude at the battery
works, thismust ull come thru the Engineering Department of the
general works at the Laboratory. If wu new Machine is proposed
or improvements in present machines desired it is to be put up to
the Engineering Department at the Laboratory for solution;
designing and making and setting up experimenting and turning
over a completed job.
Note Seven
It is my opinion that somebody is stealing nickel metal
from the Works, Get from Silver Lake all the patallic nickel
sent to us and those bought outside and credit all the returned
sorap, Then take stock on hand, as near as possible, and account
for niokel in cells, as falke and Plating and see how it checks,
Hereafter charge out the nickel to Plating Dept. and
credit scrap and flake and see that scrap is kept, so that it
Cannot be stolen,
Note Kight
AS soon as possible, devices for saving the nickel and
copper, now lost in the wash wuter should be aban ted , If we
buy outeide anodes for regular plating baths, it should be stopped
and we should make then diracives: Siiver Lake can manufacture
the Wicker: Adnbnton sulphate cheaper than we can buy ie.
We should arrange with the buyer of the Phono, Wroks to
do our buying, it is folly to buy of dealers instead of first hands.
We pay 25% more for everything than we should, also we buy the same
thing in smell lots every month from sinall dealers instead of ffom
the factory for a fair supply.
We should buy our oi] from the Standard O11 Co. and find
out just what grades we want, and don't change, because every oil
salesman telis us a lot of stuff, When we buy our lumber for
crates, buy enough for two months and on specifications as to
seasoning and quality with the right to reject it if not up to
specifications.
Every wan in the shop seems to be wanting something all
the time; lots of things are ordered that are not essential, They
oredr stuff when it is already in the stock-room, because the stuck
clerk don't know what he hus from any record, but only from memory,
All orders should be sorutinized, if seen to that theyare needed
or something we have will ao, These small orders amount monthly
to a large sum, as I can see from the checks and bills presented
to me.
Our stationary seems to be ordered in small lots without
bid; this shoud be stopped, I think all our large running orders
should be presented to the purchasing departmeht of the works to
Note Tight Page Two
ket eRe ee ere ete tr eer eran tar a
see what they can do before we close each contract. That
department cah charge us for time spent on our work.
fake up with J, V. Miller at Silver Lake the subject
of utilizing our scrap from punching grids, can cutting serap and
tube and pocket scrap, with uw view of utilizing it for making
Iron Mix for ov113,
COMPARISON BETWEEN THE EDISON AND "EXIDE" BATTERIES.
EDISON
Large amount of mattor printed
in newspapers and magazines, writ-
ten by non=technical men, making
I! olaims for the Edison Battery which
no electrical engineer would con-
sider seriously, but which the pub-
lio accept without question.
Battery still in experimental
stage. Never has been used gen= «
erally by the public. Manufac-
7 turers new in the field and pub-
Ke Z- lio unfamiliar with principlos on
which battery operates.
enw
If battery develops any troubles
eS it must be shippod back to the man-
ufacturers for repairs.
"BxIDE"
Past record of the battery
well known, :
Used by more than 90% of the
Electric Vehicle Manufacturers
who have tested the Edison
Douory but have not adopted
Battery has been generally
used for ton years. Manufac-
turers have had 21 years -ex-
perience in battery manufacture.
Trained men familiar with this
type of battery scattered
throughout the country.
Battery oan be repaired in
practically every city in the
U. S. Repair parts carried in
stock at convenient points.
——_BEOCK 8
2 Watt-hour efficiency 50%, Re- Watt-hour officioncy 75%.
f quires 40% more curront then the
Exide" to oharge. oo
a o Average voltage per coll 1,2 i Average voltage per cell
> volts. 1.96 volts.
ee reeneanrrane ARITA IS
é Requires 40 cells for 48 volt Requires 24 cells for 48
motor. no Vit motor.
Weight per cell 19.5 lbs, Weight, por -ooll 34-1/4 Ibs,
7 4 Total woight of battery 780 lbs. Total woight of battery 822 lbs,
Nena cee te aR PRA TAREE US EUAN es PTH
Requires flushing (adding water
& to Eeplace evaporation) twice a
weok.
,
"Sg ya q Internal resistance of entire
battery .129 ohms. :
Loss of voltage due to internal
D) resistance at 45 amperes discharge
| rate, 5.8 volts or 11.6% of the
battery voltage.
Loss of voltage at 100 ampere .
discharge rate, 26.9% of the bat-
tery voltage.
Roquires flushing once in
ten days or two weeks+
ot. D eeememene nent one emeneadicall
Internal resistance of en-
tire battery .042 ohms.
Ne A ante
Loss of voltage due to in-
ternal resistance at 45 amperes
discharge rate, 1.89 volts or
3.84% of the battery voltage.
Loss of voltage at 100 am-
pere discharge rate, 8.75%
of the battery voltage.
C euntRRReeteeeet on neil
it cv Horse=power delivered to motor
on 100 ampere discharge = 4.7
Horse-porer delivered to
‘ motor on 100 ampere discharge =
5.87.
ee
Ampere discharge required to
: Ampore discharge required to
develop 5.87 H.P. = 125. =
devolop 5.87 H.P. = 100.
GUARAITER AND INSTRUCTIONS.
EDISON STORAGE BATTERY COMPANY.
Orange, N. J.
To
Regarding the installation of Edison Storage Batteries you propose using with
s furnished by the é
Company, the Edison Storage Battory Company guarantoos that such batteries for a
poriod of threo years shall be capable, under normal conditions, of developing within
10% of the rated oapacity of the battery (type A-4, 150 ampere hours; Type A-6, 225
ampere hours; Type A-8, 300 ampore-hours); and should the battory fall below such
guaranteed rating during said period the Company will rebate to the purchaser a pro
rata amount of the list price corresponding to the unexpired portion of the guaranteed
period of three yoars, provided always that the instruotions as to tho handling and
use of the battery apponded hereto shall in all respects be carried out, and that
access to the batteries shall be allowed to the Company's inspector at all reasonable ,
times.
Experierience having shown that when deterioration in capacity takes place either
from unnecessary overheating during charge, or from want of care in keoping cells olean
and free Prom contamination, it is due to the nickel element, the Company agrees to
make one renewal of the nickel element for one hal? of the list price of the battery.
EDISON STORAGE BATTERY CO.
ATTEST: By.
President.
Secretary.
NOTZ:This guarantee will not bind the Company unless signed by the President, or Vioo~
President, and countersigned and sealed by the Seorotary thereof.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE PROPER CARE OF EDISON
STORAGE BATTERIES.
1. On receipt of battery inspect cells immediately to make sure tho electrolyte has
not beon spilled in transit, If any oolls are found without solution one-half inch or |
more below tho platex tops, fill it with distilled water immediately to one-half inch
above the plate tops and hold it out of commission until new elootrolyte can be obtain
ed from the Edison Storage Storage Battery Co. The original solution must then be en-
tirely removed from the celland the new solution put in to the proper height of 1/2"
+o 5/8" above plate tops.
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‘4
5.
7
8.
Cells are shippod in a discharge condition and must be given an overcharge of 15
hours at normal rate before using. This overcharge must be repeated after every
12 or 15 regular discharges, or the equivalent thoreof, until four over charges
have been given; thereafter the battery must be given the 15 hour overcharge about
once in two months.
The rates of both charge and discharge herein referred to as "normal" shall be the
following: A~-4 type oell, 30 amperes; A-6 type cell, 45 amperes; A-8 type coll,
60 ampores.
As to regular charging, if this is done at constant ourront, make the rate normal
to two-thirds normal, but not lower or higher; except that on a "boosting" charge
of short duration the rate may be increased to any dosired valuo not higher than
twice-normal, In casos where a "tapering" charge is given, the rate may be star-
ted at 1-1/2 normal and finishing at 1/2 normal if desired.
The normal length of charge is taken as 7 hours, but this may be varied to meot
the sorvice requirements. This should be governed also by the work on the previous
discharge. Where an ampore-hour meter is used on the vohiole or the output can
be made from the ampere and time readings, the charge should be made from 20 to
30% greater than the previous output ( in ampere hours) in order to bring the bat~
tory to the stato of full charge again.
A battery may be discharged continually at any rate up to 25% above normal provided
the conditions are not such as to cause heating in excess of the maximum allowable’
discharge temperature of 115° F, For occasional short intervals of time, as in
climbing hills or starting on heavy roads, ho harm will result if the rate be in-
craased to threo or four times normal.
Do not allow the temperature of a battery to oxcoed 106° F, during charge or 115°
during discharge, excopt for short intervals. Kegp cells as cool as possible
during charge, not at a tomporature lowor than 60° F. howovor.
Use nothing but puro distilled water for filling cells. Drinking wator contains
injurious impurities and postively must not be used, Fill cells as often as is
' necossary to maintain solution level at the propor height of 1/2" to 5/8! above
9.
10.
the plate tops. Do not Pill the cells above the propor hoight, and nevor allow
the solution to got below the plate tops. aear
Once in 8 or 9 months of continuous service or tho equivalent length of time of
intermittont service, the solution must. be omptied from all of the cells of a
battory, and they must be immediatoly filled to the proper height with the fresh
electrolyte put up by the Edison Storago Battery Company for this purpose. Special
care must be taken to renew the solution of every cell because if any cell is over~
looked, it will cause subsequent trouble. Never, undor any conditions, must any
acid be put into a cell.
The trays and the outside of the rotaining cans should be kept olean and dry at
all times; otherwise there may be a leakage of current from oan to can, oausing
an electrolyte action which in time may start a leak in the cell. The tops of the
cells, also must be kept free from foreigh matter, as the Company cannot be respon-
ible for the action of any battory which has become polluted with an impurity. For
this reason the filling apertures of the cells must be kept olosed at all timeo,
except during the filling operation. Great caro should be taken that nothing leaks
through the floor of the vehiole on to the battery, whioh might get into the cells
and produce unknown results, o
~3n
11. An ocoasional inspection for bad contacts at tho colls polos should be made by
feeling the connector at each pole, while the battery is charging. If any such
bad contact oxists, it will be discoverod by the abnormal heating of the connector
and pole. Any poor contact must be remidied by removing the connector and clean-
ing both contact surfaces with fine emery oloth or sandpaper, as the hoating might
possibly bo so great as to bring the whole oe11 to an injurious temperature.
12. If for any reason colls are removed from the trays care should be taken in oon-
necting up again, that all cells are connected in series; that is with the postive
pole of one connected to the negative pole of the next, and so on throughout the
battery. If a cell is put in with the poles reversed it not only does not work
itself but nullifies the voltago of another cell and also is liable to permanent
injury.
NOTE: To prevent mistakes in carrying out the above instructions, the battories should
be always placed in the caro of intolligent and competent employoes.
NOTES ON GUARANTEE.
A 1. Instructions made a part of the guarantee. Any violation of the instructions
legally relieves the Edison Company from guarantee.
2. Provision made for a new set of positive plates to be furnishod at 50% of the list
prices of the entire battery. Evidently this applies only in case the owner of
the battery by vidlating the instructions, relieves the Edison Company of its
guarantee but it indicates a tendency on the part of the positivo plates to deter-
B iorate., The battery must be shipped to the Edison Factory at Oyange, N. J., which
moans that the owner would be without the use of his car not only during the time
the repairs are being made but atso during the time the battery is in transit to
and from Orange. The battery is also liable to damago in transit.
NOTES ON INSTRUCTIONS.
Taking-up tho points brought out in thoir instructions in the order in which they
appear we would oall attention to the first paragraph, which states that batteries
must be shipped with their oleotrolyto in thom and if any eleotrolyte is lost, the
‘batteries must be held out of commission until new electrolyte can be prooured. It
is almost impossible to ship any kind of battery containing electrolyte and-be sure
that all of the olectrolyte will be in the cells upon ite recoipt. : H
We have understood that it is very dangerous to attempt to operate Edison Batter ios
when the tops of the plates aro not entirely covered by the electrolyte, since there
is a tendency for the current to aro are across the plato tops when exposed to air,
and causes the mixture of gases to explode. This we believe has happoned in a
ra number of oases. :
In the fourth paragraph, thero are many times when the exact rates of current,
specified cannot be ‘omployed; fluctuations of voltage of changing from the end
of a line will sometimes make it necessary to charge at low rates. The inferdncoos
from the fourth paragraph is that this must nover be done.
WH
In the 6th paragraph when a battery is in service it takes ourrent dependent upon
the load, grade and road conditions, as. well as other factors; as to whether the
rate is more than 25% greater than normal or not, leaves room for argument to day
the loast. Also it is not oustomary for the user of an electric vehicle to make .
regular temporature readings of his batteries during tho time he is charging it in
his automobile,
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In the 7th paragraph, caution of course could be exercisod to keep the temperature
below 105° F. by stopping the charge entirely until the tomperature comes down and
then continue it at tho specified*rate. It will not bo possible, however, under
the fourth paragraph to reduce the current to a low value, as in the oase of a lead
cell, :
The conditions imposed by the 8th paragraph would in many oases be difficult to live
up to, since water of ordinary commercial purity could not be allowed evon occasion-
ally. : |
Tho bother entailed by living up to paragraph 9 will to a greater or less extent
offset the necessity for cleaning the sediment from the jars of a load battery at
intervals of approximately the same length of timo.
Paragraph 10 emphasizes the necessity for keeping a battery assembled in metal
jars in an insulated condition,
Paragraph 11 would tond to show that the bolt connectors used in the make-up of
the Edison batteries aro not very reliable. A contact bad enough to produce a ~
riso in tomperature which can be discovered by feeling it with the hand is very
apt to cause an aro which might explode the battery.
a
The caution embodied in paragraph 12 applies to any kind of a battery.
It has been olaimed that the Edison battory is "Pool-proof", but the instructions
indicate that it requires more attention and more expert attention than doos the
Exide",
There are two most important differences betweon the Edison battery and the "Exide". -
The in-efficiency and high internal resistanco of the Edison battery is a groat handi~
cap in hilly countries. Although the Edison battery is rated at 225 ampero hours as
against 162 ampero hours for the "Exide" battery (Edison 45-ampores for 5 hours
Exide 32.4 amperes for 5 hours) yet the high internal resistance of the Edison bat-
tery so reduces the voltage delivered to the motor that an oxcessive amount of our-
rent is required to drive the vehicle up a hill.and the spoed of the machine is s
reduced, in proportion to the reduction in voltage. The net result of higher current
demand and longer time required to climb the hill ig a dissipation of the excess < ~~
capacity of the batteries in a hilly countrios the "Exide" battery will give as much
or more milage por charge than the Edison and‘at 28-1/2% less cost for current. .
The same conditions obtain where froquent stopping and starting is necossary; as in
city driving, An actual test in Detroit, Miohigan, a level and woll paved oity,
showed that in ordinary city work the Edison battery gave only 6 miles moro per char ge
than tho "Exide". We frequontly read newspaper accounts of runs of 125 to 160 miles
.with an Edison battery. Theso wore all made under the most favorable conditions,
‘On the other hand private owners of stock oars in level cities like New Orleans,
Detroit, Chicago, oto. are regularly obtaining from 85 to 95 miles per charge and
in hilly cities like Atlanta, Kansas City, Cincinnati, oto. are obtaining from 50
to 60 miles with standard "Exide" batteries. On special test runs "Exide" bat-
tories have made as high as 115 to 125 miles per charge.
The difference in cost of the two types of battery is greatly in favor of the "Exide".
Assuming a complote renewal of both positive and negative plates in the "Exide" bat-
tery to be requires every 18 months and a renewal of sediment evory 9 months - much {
more than is usually necessary - and assuming that the Edison battery will outlive
the 3 year period guarantoo without renowal of plates we have the following comparison,
* Charging. “5+
EDISON,
Differonce in first cost 600.00
Renewal of electrolyte once
a year for 3 years @ $50. 150.00
Cost of charging at $7.70
per month for 3 years 277.20
$1027.20
In tho above figures we have given the Edison batter
We have assumod that no repairs would be no
other than the annual renewal of the electrolyte. On tho other hand, the
"Exide" battory is charged with two complot
ings during tho sane period. We know of many instances of "Exide" batteries
lasting for three years with no ronerals whatever and a still greater number
"Exide"
Complete renewal of plates
ence every 18 months for 3
years, including removal
of sediment, @ $190. $380.00
Removal of sediment only for
3 years at $40.00 180.00
Cost of ehnygtnis at $5.50 ;
per mont! 198.00
$658.00
y every advantago.
oded during the threo yoar period
@ renewals of plates and two clean-
of cases in which only the positive plates required renewal in that longth of
time,
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1910. Battery - Storage - Federal Storage Battery
Car Company (D-10-06)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to
the technical and commercial development of battery-powered streetcars by
Ralph H. Beach and his Federal Storage Battery Car Co. Included is
correspondence by Edison, Beach, and Frank L. Dyer, vice president and
general counsel of the Edison Storage Battery Co., pertaining to streetcar
design, performance, manufacture, sales, and promotion. Some of the letters
express Edison's concern about the exaggerated claims made by Beach
regarding the life of the Edison storage battery.
Approximately 80 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected consist primarily of letters of transmittal, unsolicited
inquiries, and documents that duplicate information in selected material.
[FROM FRANK L. DYER]
Crp
ive 1. He Beach,
10 Fifth Ave.,
New York City.
Dear Sir:
Your suggestion, that all corrasnondence rolating to
strect car work and the use of Edison vatterics therefor should
be enswored by you, is cll right, but, o” course, you must de
vory corer not to olain to speak outhoritatively for the
Storage Battery Compeny or to mote ony guerentecs or statencnts
‘thet we will have to disclaim later. If you have eny douit as
to whet should do seid, please sec ne. I will be very fled to
co-operate With you as mich as. possible ané to consult with you
whenever you wich.
In this connection, please sce me in reford to the
Third Avene tangle eas soon.as possible.
Regarding your cuestion es to whet nenc shoulé be siven
to the car, ir. Edison thinks thet it should be celled the "Beach"
car or some such nanc, to bo followed with the statenent nipped i
with Edison Battory". vires Edison does not care to have his namo
usod in eny othor way. .
Yours very truly,
FLD/TWt ‘Vice-Presidont.
Bobler - re
R.H,.BEACH
Pa 'O FIFTH AVE,
NEW YORK
? EDISON STORAGE BATTERY CARS
Feb 10 1910
Thos A Edison 4
Ft Myer aS c
Fla, ‘ 7
My dear Mr Edison;
I have been operationg the car during the last few days on 59th
st, Not taking fares but to try it out. You will recall that I told you we bent
one of the axles, This occured last week on Friday in the evening and Mr Lynch
had allready invited his croud to see the oar in operation and was so scared
for fear that we would not get the axle in , in case we removed it to straighten
it that he persuaded me to let it remain as it was until Sunday the time of the
proposed run, So I did. They all came and we ran over the 59th st line the lst Ave
line to 125th st and back and forth until they were contented, By setting back one
of the break shoes so it did not touch the wheel on the beny axle I romoved
most of the swaying of the body due to the bent axle. The run was satisfactory
and all complemented me, Senator Clark of Montana was there and was very much pleaded,
On monday I removed the axle and found it about 1/4 inch out, it was between the
driven wheel and the sleeve. I am glad to be able to say that the sleeve itsself
stood up all right. It is now sbraight and in the car and we are running all right.
I expeot on Monddy next to put the car in regular service on 59th st taking
fares,
Except for the accident to the axle nothing has happened whatever to any part of
the structure,
The most trouble I have had is to settle with the various roads the question
as to who has it first. All want it. I am sure that we have done the right
thing in letting the Belt Line have it. I did at one time think the 28 st would
be better but after more careful consideration the Belt line is the best for
UB.
59th st is a broad st, with several curves of large radius , it has one
6% grade, it runs in a part of the city where good people live. Passes tho
Plaza and other big hotels and the car is seen by many people who are likely
to beoome customers, The conditions for operation are good for us , and aford
R.H. BEACH
Fy 10 FIFTH AVE,
NEW YORK
EDISON STORACE BATTERY CARS
; a variety of conditions as above indicated , which of themselves answer the
questions we have to reply to, All want to know if it will work on grades, ve
are working on a 6%, We take the curves, so the oar answers the questions better
than we can,
Again if we were on 28th st , in oase we should run down we have no means
of gotting back to the barn. On 59th st are electrio cars to push us in.
The service is slow and not heavy. Therefore I feel that we are all right as to
the place. The owners of the road are kindly disposed towards us and want the oar
to succeed. It is to their interest to have it succeed,
I meet the old predjudice on account of our light weight , but I feel in
this respect that we are right, and even we may be able to go lower,
The motors do not become at all warm. While they look a¥fully small and I find
it difficult to get used to them myself. They do the business all right so
ofor the present I will let them alone.
In case anything turns up that is bad I will let you know . I supposs
the good things do not interest you muche
Yours truly.
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EDISON STORAGE BATTERY CARS
February 18, 1910.
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Fort ieyer, Fla.
ny dear ily Edison;
I heve your very welcome letter of the 12th instant, end
note with cere what you heve to say with regerd to tho greater bite
of the steel wheel; I have no doubt but thet you are entirely cor-
rect in this, but still there is something clse cbhout the peculiar
ection of this divided axle thet wo do not kmov. I am not eble to
prove my view of the matter, but I feel very confident thet there
is some reletion between the existing tractive force ond thet we
get end the divided axle, which yet remeinsy to be sccounted for.
To illustrate; this car vill, on en ordinary track, go
up a 6% gsrede between 56th end 5eth streets, without slipping a
wheel, whereas the heavy pey-as-you-enter cars, operating over the
same track, connected, in the regular menner, with tvo 50HP motors,
end tho Brill Maximun traction Truck, do slipp e wheel, + have telk-
ea with Prof.Prior of the Stevens Institute, and he is of the opin-
ion that there is some relation between the action of the tvo wheels
of unequal diemeter somethins of this character:- if one wheel heppens
to have e greeter gripe or bite on the track then the other it will
of course, when the pover is opplied to it, be the last to slip, the
one hevins; the lesser pressure slipping first, end it being ettached
to the first one, adds its momentum to the slip of the second one,
I must confess thet the thing is not very clear to me, but the fact
remeins thet there is something queer ebout it. One thing ve sre
all. right on---the tvo motors gives us all the trection we went,
and of this I em very glad to inform you.
I note your suggestion es to the use of kerosene burners end
heve been trying them; from ol11 I cen see et present it works first
rate, but I heve been so very busy letely thet I heve not heat time
to try out the kerosene burners ‘thoroughly, and es _the season of the
year is nov approaching when we do not need heat, 1 think we can
let thet go wmtil later, end try it out during the summer months,
in the meantime I hseve succeeded in finding a hot water heater com-
yeeros including everything end the total weight is only 150 pounds,
his seems to be rretty good, although I am trying to get at a reduct-
ion of weight, with consistent heat efficiency end durability.
I fully egree with you that we have plenty of opportunity to
reijuce the current still further; in fect what we do not Imow- about
this car would fil] e good sized book. The investigation thet I heve
mode so far have been very crude, end I believe it #oeally impossible
to get any reasonebly correct data without automoti¢irecording instru-
ments, and as soon as possible I will get them and put them on the car
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TAE.A-£,
R.H,.BEACH
tO FIFTH AVE,
NEW YORK
EDISON STORAGE BATTERY CARS
end let them remain for a considerable time. I want to get a re-
cording watt-meter, and a recording grade meter, as well as a
recording speed meter. If we cen get an ectual record from these
three instruments, it should give us the best idea of what we ore
really doing.
I believe we will also find thet we have not got the right
motors; ve must, by working the motor at tho first two steps, add
a lot of efficiency, end inasmuch as practically all our work is done
on these two stops, I think we should look carefully to this par-
ticular point for improvement in the motors.
In the matter of getting the cer lighter, I lmow now where
we can reduce the weight by 500 pounds. I do not see how we can
do better than that now. Yotwithstanding I hope and am striving
by considerable effort, to continue to reduce the weight.
I heve carefully watched the action of the body, to see if
there hes been any starting in ony direction of the lettice stecl
girder, which you will remember we placed under the soats, end is
really the "meat" of this car body. So far 1 heve been unable to
discover the slightest yielding of any of the parts, although I heve
been driving the cer with a bent axle, vhich of course has subjected
it to unusual strains, so much so in fact thot it was difficult to
stand up in the car when the car wes in motion beceuse it syveyed
so badly. This was done, intentionolly of course, to sce whet the
steel sirder would do under such rection.
One point whore I discoyer I made a mistake: I aid not give
the axle sufficient ond play. <“n_setting the axles into the journals
I forgot to ellow any end play. This of course made the wheels elimb
the curves. I wondered about this a good deal, and finally woke up
to the fact that I had forgotten to give the end play, but I have
finally teken out the thrust-plates, so as to allow 1/4" end play,
this beings ebout the usual esmount of play trucks ere allowed.
The other day iir Dyer got a letter from our mutual friend
whitridge, which Mr Dyer very Kindly referred to me for reply.
I enclose herewith copy of my reply to lir hitridge, snd elso
copy of his letter to tir Dyer. Now of course I did not want to
offend Mr “hitridge, but there finelly comes a time, in such cases,
when, in order to meintain your manhood, you have to strike back,
For the last month he has been continually saying unkind end un~
truthful things in regard to myself. I have been particularly careful
in any communication vith him or his people to remein ever silent
or when compelled to talk to say only agreeable things, but it seemed
to me finally thet the situation had gotten at thet point where
it required something more serious from me, so I wrote the enclosed
letter. In this letter I heve told the cbsolute truth, and I can
prove every word of it. JI hope the letter will meet with your epproval,
It is pretty long and I do not lmow if it is necessary for you to
roed it, but you will find it interesting if you do read it,
TANS,
R.H.BEACH
10 FIFTH AVE, .
NEW YORK
EDISON STORAGE BATTERY CARS
About the business; I have sola three cars. vo to ir Joslyn
and one to e compeny at Springfield, Ills. I think during the next
two or three weeks we will sell ton cers to the 28th & 29th Street
road. This is a very good place upon which to try out the cars,
and here wo will learn more then we know about them et this time,
I heve hed o great many inquiries, most of which geen to be of o ser~
ious nature, from serious minded people, from which I judge, they
really mean to buy cars. They clearly indicate e considerable demand
for this type of car, sna I really believe that you will find it very
difficult to meet the demand for cnr batteries with your present
battery plant, in addition to whet you are already doing to meet the
demand of batteries for other pruposes,
With best wishes and trusting you are enjoying your stay in
Florida, I am,
Very truly yours,
Enels.
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ao Pv. Be
rr fone ee * & 4° acts
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: THIRD AVENUE RAILROAD COMPANY, ear 49 5 Ps
Frederick ‘.Whitridge, Receiver, ty “0
L50th Street and Sra Avenue, New York, Vor,
Pebruary 9th, 1910,
Mr Pranic L.Dyer,
; Vice-President, Edison Storage Battery Company,
Orange, New Jersey.
aly deor Sir:
I have yours of the 8th instent in reply to my letter of
the 28th ultomo to tir Edison. I do not thinit there is any misunder-
standing between me end Hr Beach at all, itr Beach came to mo 2 good
many months ago and proposed that I shoulda try the Edison storage
battery on my lines. I told hin that I hed been a director in the
Edison Storage Battery Compeny for some years ag the representative of
some of your principal stockholders, end I was quite ready to try
the car, provided he would buila one and give it to me for exyo ri-
mental purposes end without any expense, I won't underteke to
enumerate the number of promises in respects to the delivery of that
car which iir Beach Broke, but they were a srest many.
Tvo or three months ego he actuelly got to work on the con-
struction of © car, ly Engineer, iir Mulleney, wes put ot his dispo-
sition, and I authorized the peinting of the car end the equipment
of the car with a number of appliances, on the theory that the
car was to be delivered to me as soon as completed. bout oa fortnight
ego ilr Beach turned up egain and said that he wanted some money,
which was not in eccordence with his original agreement. I asked
him how much he wanted and he saia $6500.00, which I said I would
pay- $2000.00 on his signature to e contract and the balance on
delivery of the car. He then asked whot sort of contract I wanted,
and we discussed the terms, fortunately in the presence of my
General ienager, lr siaher, end iiy Mullaney, ond Nir Beach acquiesced
in 11 of those terms; one of thom was that I should have the car for
& veriod of sixty days to try out. The next day his attorney sent
on agreement up here which wes in flet violation of everyone of the
torms he hed sgreed upon the day before,
Under the circumstences, you will perceive that I cennot have
eny more dealings with Mr Beach, except to collect from him tho amount
of money which he induced me to spend upon "his" car.
I em going sway myself for a few weeks, ond if during my absence
you should choose to deliver the cer here, lir iiaher, my Genoral Manager,
will take it in eccordance with our originel understending. I moy edd
that it has come to my knowlodge that instead of delivering the car
to me, os he agreed, Beach has mede promises to deliver it to pretty
much every one else on earth, and most of thewpnersons to whom he
has agreed to deliver it, neither now heve, nor to the best of my know.
ledge and belief, cen within any mensurable time obtain ony consider~
able sum of money. Of course tho fundamental difficulty with ur Reach
was that he misrepresented his position in respect to wr Edison.
Yours truly,
(Sga) F.W.whitridge,
Receiver,
“4 Sees
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Feb 1th 1°19
brodorick ‘hitridr¢e Recoivor
Third Ave Railvay Conpany
180th st & 3rd Avo
City.
‘Dear Bir; , :
Your Lottor of the 9th inot to tr Frank L Dyer V P, Fdison Storare
Battery Borpany , at Orango NJ, has boon refered to the writor for reply.
Your lot!er seors to require a dotailed anavcr in order to oloar up any
doubt, a
It io unfortunate that it requires many vords to male it cloar, but it
ought to be clear and wo can afford to use a fow oxtra words to male Ait 00.
As to any ninpundorstanding betweon uas- I do not think that thero io Onye
. Tha orfiginal understanding was that you should have tho car as scon as it was
conpleted; that’ was the undoraotanding and all of it,
No details what over vere steeds agreed upon or even hinted at ecithor by
you or tho writer, ;
Your having -boon a dirootor of *ho Edison Storage Battery Company ion beside
tho mark and doos not onter into this nattor .
’ You say that it was provided that I should budid a@ oar and “ive it to you
Lor oxporinental purposes without any oxpenco, I prosume that you intended
to cay “ oxpenoe eithor to you or to your company on account of ‘purchase of the
car, ‘ : a
In this statoment you. ana, Bit only entirely and absolutely wrong, in that
we uovor , prior to our tast mooting, oven discussed the question of expenco.
ono way or tho othor or oven renotoly hinted at it, but it goon without saying
that such would have beon an unhoared of arrarigonont, the vory costly
manufacture of tho Pirot oar and delivery | to you for no consideration, :
"In reopeot to the delivory of tho car;z- as to ny promises , which you cay
you will not undertake to ‘enumorato how many I havo made and brokon, bet that
J
they vero vory ONY» r heg to ‘say that no promises wero ever mado , cither to you
or any voprosontative of. ‘yours or your CORPONY » in nepal to the delivery of thig
or any othor a ne ne , oxcept that- os soon as eodesiac I would dolivar and n
rire aay eee ee ee
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car to you, ad thio promiue ‘was , of course, based upon our moking a fair and
reasonablo bargain which you have refused to make or cvon concider,
You oay that threo or four months ago that sotually got to work on tho oar,
In fact T was at work on the oar more thon. eighteen rontho ago and carried on,
at much oxponce, nany exporinonts to dotormine how to build a oar of this
charactor , at the Edison Vo ke whore it is well known . Tho faot that in this
statement yeu have plainly orred is sub joot to positive domonstrations ,
You say that your engineor , Lr iullanoy , was put at ny dispos*tion e This is
the first timo I havo over hoarod of it, I nover asked for hin or his services,
No did froquentily oall on me both at my office and at the works while I waa
‘developing the dotails of this last car. Ho hac nover made ono acceptable
suggestion in rogard to the construction of tho car, its invention or dovolopoment
-oxce;t to commend favorably tho work as it progrossoed and to sond over to na’ :
at the works some small supplies which aro standard and sormon to nearly all onrs
exoopt the tivo draw heads; he also sent over , at his om suggestion, twp
painters and the paint for the oar,
‘fou say that about a fortnight ago I "Turnod up" and Wayted some monoys
This statement whilo it is true is miajloading. It io true that T an aljrayo
vanting MONOYs The Third Av Railway Company and I aro in tho Bone boat in that
recspeote : a /
The facte in rocard to this aros- the evoning before the morning of ny
lant visit to you, your Mr Mullanoy onlled on no at the works and then and thore
_ told ne that inasmuch as the car was pragtioally ready for dolivory as it soomed,
and that you had told him that you were anzious to have the oar and that he was
authorisod by you to arrange with mo for the dolivory of the car and for the
payment for it“and that you wore roady to pay the sum of:3000.00 at once.
and ‘upon dolivery of the oar the balance or $3500.00,
He invited: me to onli at your office te ‘olone ne tranoaotion ard I did 006
You asked me how much monoy was wantod “and I told you $2090.00 and tho balance
of the paynont for the oar or $4500;00— thirty days after the car was dolivorod, ;
To this you agreed, but you otipulated. that you should have the ex iiiatva
dentnotl < “£ tho oar and all othors like it or of a oinilar charactor in tho oity
of Now York aml Westchester count ty for a long poriod of tino, ;
eae Se eae Ps reer ed re eee.
ne Seer eae Seiad ans halons
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Your Ly Maher said tuonty five years,
This phase of tho mattor had , nover before ’ boon mebtioned cithor by y
or your engincor or nysolf or any othor porson in any form whatever , as far as Tt
knows I.asked you why you wanted such an: arrangement , and you said to onable you
to make a profit by golling to othor ronds, I thon told you of my rolation with Mr
Edison and that Lefora any such an arrangement could be made 1t was noooscary for
ma to oonault hin. You did nost of the teling and aa I rocall tho burden of your
ronarks was to the offoct that lr Edison was a fakor and not to bo trusted and othor
unpleasant romarks of like character, explanatory , probably , of your suggestion
of your individual control of tho car.
I thon loft your offices in oom any with If Mahor, Mr Robinson and iy Mullaney ard
vent into the offico of iy Nahor where the four of us discussed a possible pian
whoroby such a control as you dosired could be given you, but without arriving at
any dof }inito plan. Your position ap receivor, aco rding to your attoyfengy.itr ;
Robinson , prevented you from ontoring into suoh an arrangonent, Ne suggested
that a corporation be fo:ned the stook of which you should hold individually, and &
with that corporation no contract should bo dram giving it for a reasonable
consideration the control you asl:od for. He oonculted on this with another attopriy
in ny prosenoe and ropeatod such opinion, The day after tho -conversation above
roforod to , your Lip Mullaney and Mir Robinson mot said attodrniy and myoelf in
My Nobincon's office down town and then and thoro tried for somo tine to irrive
at a plan that would seen to meot your desiros, In this they did not succoed , but
at Yr Robinson's request it was left for the other attf¢urngy to malo Q propontal,
tho undor:tanding boing that it should be diacussed and somo cort of workable plan
arrived at. Tho day following your Mx Moahor vrote a Jotter in which wac statod that -
you did not care to do business with me, or words to that effect, I have not the
letter before me and so om unable to quoto it, .
On tho day following this I called up your Ey Maher with tho’ idea, which I
oxprocsed to hin over the tolephone, of advising hin and did adviso hin that this
. propoval from the attobnoy I refor to was as above stated » io for the purpose of
dovoloping a workable plan.
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Tho Statenont that you did not care to.do business with me was onough to end
any relations which might theretofor havo oxistod botwoen us , ; ;
The noxt day , or if not , shortly thoredfter Mr Mullaney was , 40 my Surprise,
at the Edison vorke and accompanied mo and oome frionds of nino to New York.
Uy friends loft ne at 42nd st but ir PEneLey renainod with mo to 92 nd Bbe
- At the Loot of the stairs to tho L road on 72 st and Columbus Ave. he said to
ne that a mistake was nade in getting layers into the nogotiations and that ho ’
personally ,would make a proposition . I told him that it would be ontertainod
but he nover mado any: j instead a fow dayo lator Eullanoy called on lr Edison
and in ny prosonce requested hin to sell to your company battorics for use in
ctroet oars, lr Edison, after stipulating for a profit to be paid on tho oars
irrospeotive of tho battorios did agree to this, bet stated tho curs on which such |
batterion wore to be used should be senate under my suporvision,
Your atatemont in tho first paragraph of the socond page of your licttor is Paulfy
in that you do not otate what the torno voro that wo discussed. Your implication
that i4 woo fortunate that you had your people ‘procont ad witneoses in uncalled
Por.
Your statomont that the spooifio terns of cale wore {2000.00 down on signing
contract and balance on delivory of car is inasourato, but it ia truo that you
did agree to pay down $2990.00 and tho balance 30 days after tho dolivery of the car,
Your lotter clearly shows a faulty memory . In clauce 2 in tho latonr portion of
it you say that you wore to havo sixty days 4n which to try out the oor , andin
tho fore part of tho cand clause you say that you were to pay for the car on
delivory, Both could not be tuo. :
Now as’to the solleotion ‘of the amount due to y your company, ‘Paynont for that
4s ready, but tho largost item on your bill, whioh I havo just rocetved in dotail,
is a charge for $250,00 for engineers aorvicos, Thic will not be paid or evon
sorlously considered, Your enginoor was nover asked to do anything in the
construction or doveloponont of thio oar in any manner whatover oxcont to havo
it painted , which he offorod » and to send over to the shop a few omall , ond I
think » standard parte such ac bello, foro registers ete, tho ‘one oxception to this
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. was the making by your company of two forged draw heads,
I eam now roturning to you the fare rogister and when it is rocoived by you
kindly oredit tho samo on your bill and you will be sont the amount due , but
under no circumstancos, will payment bo made for engineers services which were
nevr had or as!:ed for,
Now as to your dealing with me.
I desire to say that if you desire to une this battery oar oui must doal with
mo, The SMEMAYH right to oonstruot a car on the lines and embodying the
mechanical contrivences used in this car is exclusive and thoy are fully
protected by rights that are indisputable. I have no absolute control of lr
Rdison's battery and nevor claimed to have such a right, on the contrary I told
you I did not havo such control. The car and its many features that go to make
it a successful thing are in one control.
without the divided axle, so far as we now undorstand the art, it is
impossible to socure a sufficiently high ecomomy of ourrent in a street car
to pormit the use of any battery, Again the mothod of commitation is so highly
advantageous that any railway operator would be justly subject to sdvoerse :
criticism who did not use it. ,
. I personally regret , for your sake, that you poupelled to deal
with me in case you desire to use this kind of a car but such is the case.
I oan assure you that I shall , at all times do my best to meet the recoiver
of the Third Ave Ry Co in a spirit of fairness and to deal equitably with hin ;
and the interests he represents, to whom I believe this car is at present known
and the subject of serious consideration.
As to the amount of money in possession of tho indef finite persons refered to
in your letter, I heve no knowlodge. There are deffinite persons favorably
impressed with the car outside of the receiver of the Third Avo Ry, who have
demonstrated their complete finanoial independences
Mr Whitridge , you aro the Saasaven of the Third Ave Ry,an important railway
system. You have given much satisfaction .to its owners and I believe you will
continuo so to do, People dealing with you are dealing with them and they so
deal in the belief that you are capable -of performing and. will perform , with
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tho etaeie idoa of doing for creditors , bondholders and: stockholders » all -
that lios within your power and that your individunafity and porsonalfity
are not , at any time , a consideration when thoir interests aro concerned, '
The individuality of the sae jhould Tikowise bo negligible,
I wish you would think thas nattor over calmly and let us try and meet as
reasonable mone
You scom to overlook the fact thet in undertaking this impordant, vorlk
Mr Edison and I wero not trying to make ono or a dozen cara to sell to some ono
for the little profit there might be in it, but to actually aduance the art,
and it now looks as though we had‘ succeeded ,
In do'ng this tho public is benofitted and as to tho profit
wall , I suppose, like most pioneers some other fellow will get that.
I hope that youwill , as a broad mindod man that I believe you to be, look
at the real inportanoe of this undertaking and not at somo small part of it
or listen to small talk from or by irrisponsable people whose ambitions
‘ro liable ‘in misslead both you ani then.
Very respectfully
Oopy to My Edison
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My dear Sir Edison: ri carat Ke Ta Keeruhd,
In reply to your favor of the 6th jnstent; nelosed
les ee oe Lede. a pec hapetereaats
will please find detailed report of os epfornance of the car ey.
the days from the 2nd to the 6th of this month, both ine t
eelculation showing the WH Consumption at bus-ber I°*
self, based on the efficiency of the battery at 62} ES 1d this be-
cause the srrengemont for charging was nee eS ip Yoo Te oe
for us to get ey accurate records. The “to he roodeaep 4 pase
e tf
We had in a Thompson Recording sehen ioe were
each trip. We also had in a Voltmeter and an Ammeter to tom
also a recording Ammeter, They all check up. There is no doubt but
that the recording watt hour meter result is accurate. Our mileage is
correct. Our time is correct. The weight I am compelled to estimate,
I think the weight ig correct, or nearly so. Of course it is constant-
ly verying; sometimes the car would contain 50 people, md sometimes as
low as ten, and I have secn it as low as four, but think it fair to say
that the average total weight was about seven tons.
The track conditions are extremely bed; they are bad in
this respect: the track is very dirty. Thot is the track is made
so by the general street traffic, md there are not enough cars pess-
ing over it to keep it clean. I notice there is e great deal of dirt,
or if the weather is wet, of mud, vhich forms a sort of film over the
surface of the track at all times, whereas on Broadway and other streets
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where the car traffic is more frequent, the track surface is comparative-~
ly clean. This is of course agoinst us. Also we have 49 curves in
the 4.77 miles. In 36 of these curves the cer enters the curve end
stops on an up-grede. This is also against us. The method of hendl-
ing the car by the motormen is just exactly as the trolley cars are
handled. The tendency is to run on the third step, end in spite of
all we can do to keep them on the first and second step. I have no
doubt but that es time goes on we will greduelly get the motormen to
realize the importance of sterting more slowly. This ought to help
us on current consumption.
If you will note the enclosed performance record you will
see that during the first four days run the current consumption per
ton mile and car mile is considerably greater than the lest day.
I was very much worried over the low mileage thet we got, and watched
the car closely. I noticed the break shoes were wearing more than
they should, but could not at first locate any structural defect. On
the night of the 5th however I mede a very careful examination of the
break rigging, ona found that in between the spring, which releases the
break and the bresk shoe itself, thore was an accumulatéon of dirt, which
foreed the shoe out from the spring end up egainst the wheel, so that
the break shoe was really kept touching the wheel all. the time. My
attention was attracted to this by the sluggish action of the car. As
soon as I discovered it, I took off the break shoe: springs, depending
upon gravity for release, end the immediate results was an increase in
mileage per charge, and decrease in current consumption per car and
ton mile. The car responded well and we got good acceleration on the
first and second step of the controller, whereas before removing these
springs, we could not eccelerate on the first, and not very well on
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the second step. It seems a foolish thing not to heve observed this
before. You will perheps not recall the preak Shoe rigging; the act-
ion of the shoe moving back and forward is not wnlike thet of the jaws
of a Blake Rock Crusher jaws. The onening was widest at the top, and
as little particles of dirt amd mud would fall into this opening, and
the movement of the shoe, back and forth, would gradually work the dirt
ana mud down into of the wedge shaped opening end pack it. We found
it packed so very tight thet it was like cement.
The record which I enclose was made by an independent engineer
in the employ of the 28th & 29th Street Line, a ir O'Gorman, whom I do
not know, but he scems to be a very intelligent engineer. treet care
wos token to get accurate records, and I believe they are accurate.
I think it is fair to form your opinion of the porformance
of the car from the run of the 6th, because it was really the first time
the car wes run under what you could call fair conditions, so far as
the break is concerned. Assuming the cars condition on the 6th to be
its normal condition, the watt consumption per ton mile would be 75.7.
I think you are perfectly correct in assuming thet we are
very faulty in the motor design. I an quite sure that we are still
very faulty, md I look confidently to getting a very much more effi-
cient motor, not that the motor itself will be efficient, “but that
we will get a better avorage officiency by rearranging the voltage of
the motor. I have three different firms at work on it now.
I note vhat you say about lighting, sand will abide by it.
I would be very glad to use the AS battery if you think it
possible to do so, as it helps me out with more room in the car. Billie
Bee seems to think it is the real thing. If you would like to give
it a test on heavy work, we will tako out the A4 end put in a set of
A8 end give them ec test. To do this I would necd 100 cells. I can
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arrange this any time you vrish.
Yesterday we had our first accident that amounted to anything,
We broke an axle. You will recall thet I wrote you that we bent both
axles vhile we hed the car on the Belt Line. One of them was bent out
of allignment about 5/4", The bend was right at the hub of the wheel,
Ve straightened this axle cold, and put it into service again, Yester-
day morming about ten o'clock, at the corner of Seventh Avenue and
29th Street, it parted, st the same point, at the hub. It was a sheer
break, The break appears to be highly erystalized. Whether there was
a fracture in the axle I cannot tell; whether the diameter of tho axle
is too light, I do not kmow, but think possibly it is. It is 2-3/4"
in diameter. I am having a new set made of 3-1/4". I expect to get
them in by Saturday. I think perhaps I had in a steel too high in
carbon, end am now putting in a Lower carbon steel, made by the Taylor
Iron Works.
In a general way the railroad people are very much pleased
with the car. t has appeared in the mein to be very satisfactory.
fll of the men about the place like it. I+ hendles well, end on the
vhdle I think we are safe in Saying that the car is commercially suc~
cessful,
Of course there are a number of little things about it that
are not quite satisfactory; one of them is the noise in the body.
I have not succeeded yet in finding out exactly what makes this noise,
It may be the doomed Sheped roof. I think this is the trouble. Also
the springs are a little too stiff’. I eam putting in soft®énes,
The stiff springs mekes the body vibrate. The noise is not particularly
objectionable, but it is more noisy thm other cars, ;
The car has been taking in about $20.00 per day, as against
$4.00 per day for the horse cars.
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I em receiving a great many inquiries from contractors and
mining Senta who want a small lovomotive. What would you think of
developing a small locomotive for hauling say ten to twelve little
cars, carrying ebout.e yard of dirt each? The total distance would not
in any case exceed a haul of one mile, and we could take a truck and
put on four motors, getting e good tractive effort, md it would not
cost very much to try it out. I do not see eny reason why we should
not do it, md if you think it a good idea, I will go ahead on the
scheme. There would be quite a wide use for such a locomotive; es-
pecially with the contractors. The particular case in point is up on
the Ashakon Dam; thoy are compelled to move their track every week
or so, nd thst prevents their putting in a trolley, and a little sto-
rage battery locomotive would be very convenient for them, They would
want twelve locomotives.
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Gentlemen:- i ae
I
ye begn great interested in your new
storage battery and hafe followed the public press on the sub-
ject, very closely.
Myself snd associates are contemplating the
construction of an electric railway in the State of California.
I will be very pleased to receive any advence
information or data you can furnish on the storage battery propo-
sition and especially relative to railroad work.
Would it be possible to secure the Pacific
Coast rights for tle use of your battery, provided we could or-
ganize a company of sufficient capital to handle it?
I give you as reference the Merchants National
Banx, Los Angeles, Ocean Park Bank, Sante Mouica, California, Brad-
street's and Dun's.
Awaiting your reply, I beg to remain,
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MR.DYER:
party a cutalogue, and have also
are-not--in—-a-position to consider the
agency or selling rights proposition, and will not be
for at least a vear,
W.G.8,
eeeanerer veneer
R.H. BEACH
10 FIFTH AVE, TEL. 1352 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS
(USING EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES)
Mereh 28, 1910.
ur F.L.Dyer,
Vice-rresident, Edison Storese Battery Compmy,
Orense, NJ.
Dear Sir:
Regarding the small locomotives; I am heving a number
of inquiries for smell Locomotives, equipped with Edison Batter-
ies. Technically the detsil of these Locomotives is almost the
same exactly as the street car. ‘Je would use the same truck as
in the strect car, except that it would be modified slightly to
meet the varying conditions. I cen very reodily work out & loco
motive thet vould do the trick, and I think we really ought to do
it. A case in point now is for the contractors at Ashokan Dam.
They went tvo locomotives. A Mc Hinsley is the perty in question,
He desires tro Locomotives to heul 500 tons of dirt per day of ten
hours. This would require about 40 A-8 cells, with a car which would
be built on practically the same lines es the truck in the present
street car. A pletform would be placed on top of the truck, to carry
the betteries with a seat for the motorman. We would use tho same
method of drive thet we have developed for the strect cer, and in
general the details would be the same as though the device wes to
be used ine strect car.
I cen do this ell right if it is egreeable.
Yours very truly,
R.H. BEACH
\/ 10 FIFTH AVE. TEL. 1382 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS
(using EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES)
March 28, 1910.
vr POT.Dyer,
Vice-President, Edison Storage Bettery Company,
Orange, iid,
my dear iir Dyer;
In reply to your fevor of the 23rd instent in reeerd to
foreign busincss; it secms to me thet if we send over to Bergmann
at Berlin just the inquiries as received, that he will find it
extremely difficult to handle them, owing to the feet thet he
cannot Imo the details of these cers.
Nov the facet is that the success we are enjoying with
the battery on this car is due to two things; first ,thet. we
have m excellent battery; second, the economical use of current
by the car,
It is possible thet you do not Imow that this ear really
takes, for driving, only about one-third the current required to
drive an ordinary car of the sane seating capacity. lir Bergmann's
engineers will naturally doubt this statement, but it is a fact
just the same, end it seems to me the Tight way to go about this
proposition is for either cr Bergmann, or one of his engineers,
to inform themselves on this subject.
in regerd to the patent situation, application for these
patents were made long before the publication. of press notices
took place regarding the car, and I em advised by Mr ‘Small and
tir Smith thet we ere protected under the International Treaty for
sufficient time to meke aur applications in other countries, which
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we are getting ready to do,
Of course we will be very glad to make some equitable
arrangement with Mir Beremenn for use of these devices in any terri-
tory he wants.
If yon esre to heve ie do so, I will glodly send over
to lr Bergmann full details as to the construction of the car and
full date as to its operation, ond will take wp, either through
you or directly with him, the matter of getting him vosted fully.
Ve have had a number of inquiries; one from New Zealand,
one from Italy, one from Brence , one from Turkey, one from England
and several froin Mexico und other central od south ‘mericen
countries.
Yours very truly,
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R.H. BEACH
1O FIFTH AVE,, TEL, 1382 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS
(USING EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES)
Merch 28, 1910.
lir F.L.Dyer,
Vice-President, Edison Storese Battery Company,
_, Orange, WJ,
My dear sir Dyer:
In reply to your favor of the 26th instant I note vhat
you say in regard to the use of the curve shoving comparetive
tests of the A and E type of battery.
If you will look over the copy of my letter herewith
addressed to iir Carl P.Schoder, you vill note exactly the form
in vhich I wish to use the informetion contained in the curve
as cdvertising date. Of course it would bo necessary to vary the
wording according to the circumstances, but in a general way I would
say to proancevine customers that the exverience on the battery is
that on expiration of so many complete discharges, the battery had
actually shown the increase in the percentage indicated in the blue
print. I would not make any reference to the E battery, because
it would have the effect of confusing the buyer, who Imows nothing
about it.
I can see no objection to using the deta in this manner,
but on the contrary there are many advantages.
I would cell your attention to a subject vhich ought to
be taken up at once, it seems to me, as we are now epproaching
the time when we will begin to sell cars. Some sort of guarantee
should be provided; I heve talked the matter over with lr Dodge
end he is of the same opinion. iI do not mean to sugesest that the
works should make en wnqualified guarantee, But it doos seem
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to me as though the Compeny should make 2 reasonable puarantee
as to the Life of the battery, qualified of course by the ro-
quirenent that the instructions for use of the battery are strictly
adhered to.
I imow of iir Edison's objections, and they ere very
good objections. at the saxe time you can hardly expect large
users to spend lerse sums of money purely on our word.
I do not see how eny unfair risks woulfd be teken by the
Yorks in offering to its customers a fair gsuerantee, end one which
they know absolutely they can meet, provided of course the battery
receives at oll times proper care and opere tion.
The worst thing thet could oceur would be that the cus-
tomer would claim thet his battery would not do the work. Our
position then vould naturelly be that he hed not followed instruct-
ions. It woul’ then be incumbent upon him to show thet he had
followed instructions, end this vould be an extremely difficult
thing for him to show, if the battery had feiled. I meke this
sugsestion because it is the bad thing that we will necessarily
have to meet some day.
I cannot see how it woulda be nossible for the user of
the battery not to get the good results which we are ell getting,
provided he aid follow instructions; therefore the risk in making
such a guarantee along these lines, would be extremely small.
On the other hand it vould give us great advantage in
Yours very truly, : “ .
rel,
the market.
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R.H. BEACH
10 FIFTH AVE, TEL, 1352 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS
(USING EDIBON STORAGE BATTERIES)
March 28, 1910.
Nir Carl I.Schader,
Suite 500, Currier Bldg.,
LOS ANGELES, CAL.
Dear Sir;
Your favor of the 14th instant addressed to the
Edison Company, Menlo, N.J., has been referred to the writer
for reply, in vhich ploerse note that I refer only to cars for
street railway or interurban service. “y connection with the
Edison Storego Bettary Company is effective only insofar as
the Battery is applied to street cars.
Regsrding the sale of theso cars in your territory,
we ore not yot in position to meke agency arrangemonts, but
would be pleased to furnish you cars, ond vil] cheerfully fumish
you with such data ag will eneble you to form an opinion es to
this method of car propulsion, as compared with other methods,
You will, find enclosed two reprints, which pives a fair
description of the 26-passenger ear. This cer is now in aeily
operation on the 28th & 29th Street Crosstovn Thine in this city.
The cer is in service in a very congosted district, end under
extremoly unfevoreble traffic conditions. It mrkes regularly
62 miles per day, or per charge of battery, over a track in which
there ore 46 curves, and a Soustently varying grade up to 2-1/2%.
The car averages about eight stops per mile. In such car perfor-
mance the current consumption at bus ber is 853 watt hours per
car mile.
In tho operation of this car we have mot with no diffi-
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culties whatever, cither in structural dosign or principle of pro-
pulsion, ond while the car is light, as it necossarily must bo
to oporate economically with storage bettories, no dofects of any
kind have devolopod,
The car accelorates readily, at the rate of about one
mile per hour per second, vhich is the usual rete of. acceleration
in all strect cars.
Wo foel thet we cre warranted in stating thet the prob-
lem of driving street od intorurben cars vith storage batteries
has boon solved.
The question of durability of the battery will naturolly
arise in your mind; inasmuch as the battery has not beon in con-
mercial operation for a great number of yeers, we connot advise
you definitely on this point. Wo do Imow, however, from actual
experience with the battory in commercial service, thet ot the exe
piration of 30,000 miles the battery in this car will hevoe inereas-
ed in capacity about 11%. From actual oxperionce with the battery
wo emnot state whet its performance will be beyond tho 50,000 miles
mentioned, but from various tests ond demonstrations that heve boen
made to determine the 14% of the battery, it is the opinion of the
Factory engineers ed Mr Edison that the bottery will lest a num
bor of years; probably ten to fifteon years. .
However, owing to the fect that the positive life of the
battery is unknown, we recommend to our customers to arbitrerily
charge off 15% per mnum from the original price of the battery,
(which in this case is $13.50 por cell or $2835.00 per set). The
fund thus reserved you vould naturally retein as no sinking fund :
for the purchase of new batteries, in tho event of their feilure
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at the end of seven or oight yoars of service, a condition, how-
ever, not likely to orise. ‘This inflicts no cspecial burden on
reilwoy earnings, bocause a similar or much larger amount would
have to be expended, from time to time, if the roed was equipped
vith a trolley system. To put this to you more graphically;
the sinking fund thus provided, vhero battery cars aro used, vould
amount to $0.00.15.60 (1-1/2 mills) per car mile, whereas the State
of Messachussotts reports, for example, that tho avorage oxpense
of eae maintaining the overhead trolley lines, on all
electric roads in that state, omounts to $0.03.05.00 (3-5/10 cents)
por car mile. ‘Tho latter itom of course yuries considerably, but
is as authentic and cheracteristia, for comparison, as cowld be
obtained.
The advantages in service of the storege bettory car
are obvious; there is ono edventage, however, vhich may not appoar
to you upon first consideration, md thet is the lessenod cost of
pover production. By use of these cars you got a vory much highor
power factor on your operation. It is extremoly difficult to get
better them e 50% power fector with trolloy cars; with buttery
cars on a system properly meneged, you should get at least a 90%
power factor. That is your horse power would be reduced, eppro-
ximetoly of course, by one-helf, md the power cost considerably
reduced due to the high power factor of a system operating the
storage bettery cars.
It would be well, if you contemplate construction of a
road, to let us have a plan of the system; e rough sketch will
ansywor the purpose, and we should imow the miloage, schedule and
maxinum spood requiremomts, number of cars, grades and longth of
Bane. curvos. number of stops por mile, passenger cepocity of cars,
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end Location of power plant.
Upon receipt of this information we will very cheerfully
work out a definite proposition for you.
Yours very truly,
(Sed) R.H.Beach,.
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April 5, 1920.
R. iH. Beach, Usq.,
10 Fifth Ave. ,
How Youl:.
Deer liv. Beach:
Yours of the 26th ult. has peen reeeived in rovor-
onee to Loroign business. Under the International Convention
you have, es I rem her, one year from the dete of the Tiline jn
ris cowitry in which to file avnlicetions ebrond. t tiuinic
however, thet ve will have dilliorwlty in obtadiaai: ° netonts in
Gormany, because the Cexion vatent offiec iS oxtromely illiberel,
but of course there would ve no harn in trying.
In view ef tho inquiries you here reccived, it might be
well to apply for ptente in Groat Britain, Frenec, Belgiun,
Gormany and possibly Austrie, but I would hardly advice you to go
outside of these countries, ond as it is, the syplications would
bo filed puroly as a speculation, wath tho chanees very much against
your making anything out of the patents.
Regerding Mr. Borgmenn, I wish you would let mo havo
full deta concorning the car so thet I can write him end put him
thoroughly in touch with the situetion. ALL of those Loroign
inquiries cen thon bo turnod over to him, ond if ho thinks the
matter is important enoush he might actually mako a dononstrating
car. lio one is better oquippod than he to do this. of course,
in turning this matter over to hin it would be with tho under-
atanding thet as soon as popsible some fair arrangenont should be
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mado under which the proposition could be handlod by luim. T
telko it for granted thet ho would bo willing to tals up the matter,
although, of course, ho migitt not be.
Yours very truly,
BLD/Le Vico~"residont.
April 5, 1910.
ir. R. H. Boach,
16 Bifth Ave.,
New York.
Doar ir. Beach:
Yours of the ROth vit. has been received in refor-
enco to the curve choct showing comparative tests of 4" type end
"Hh" type batteries. I think the statement you nual is swficient~
ly guarded to pe cefe. in every case ettontion mi:
to the Lact that the curve rerresents the werk of an Edison bat-
tory, Which you bolieyve te bo tYpical ond you have every reason
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GO believe thet as geod resulés may be oz
roctad from ol of the
batteries whon rroper conditions ove obsorvod 20 G0 Gheky uso.
From my point of viow, however, theaystatenont you make in youn.
letter of arch 28th to Mr. Sehador 4s too broad. You give the
improssion that for ot loast 30,900 miles wo =ro abcolytoly suro
of tho rooults. Io this so? les ir. Edison every been abso-
lutoly and finelly cocrtain as to this point? You slso say that
lan. Eéison believes tho bettery will last provobly ton to fifteen
yours. Is not this alco too broad a statoment? 1 have elveys
undorstocd from lr. Edison thet ho oxpoctod a nrobabloe lifo of
fivo years end possibly considorably Longor, but I nover Imov
that he rogerdod ton or fifteen yoars ap probabie. When you
consider tho rodiovlouply short lifo of tho load bettery there
is no neod of molting too extravegent oleims for our bettory
7 lnee, :
until wo ara absolwkaly sure. af tho macwitee 7 OM bien weg eae en ore
lo Fifth Ave. ,
How Yorl:.
Doar itr. Boesch:
Yours cf the 28th
subjoct of small Loconotives.
April 5, L910.
ulé. has heen received on the
You might go ahead with this
7 ta
nettor tin a tonteative Way and outline your conoral plan snd pov-
nas by thet tine ly. Hdis mn will have vetimod so tush it enn
be taken un diveet with hin. 0:
problem is quite difforent trom a sorcot ear, bocnuse in tho
caso Of 2 Locomotive in order to
should tivinis you vould roeavire 2
the vory thing you have to
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fhand it seoens to mo thot tha
bot Bhe desired traction i
Good deal of weisnt, end thet is
in stroet cor work. is thore
Vice-vrosident.
Patter yy Shee
R.H. BEACH
10 FIFTH AVE, TEL. 1382 GRAMERCY . 4
NEW YORK ¢: AW iv 7
BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS i Fis .
(USING EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES) "
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April 8, Iolo, AP aA dt
lr F.L.Dyer, i
Vice-President, Edison Storage Battery Company,
ORANGE, Ng.
ily dear ir Dyer;
Replying to your favor of the 5th, I am sled you approve of
the stetenent I made regarding the comprrative tests. ‘he position
we are in regarding stetements ebout the bettery, I think you rill
eeree, is a very difficult one.
I supose none of us vho are familier with the operetion
of the bettery end its construction have eny real doubt, either as
to its caracity or as to its ultimete Life being reasonably long,
but the fact that we do not reelly kmow about this makes our posi-
tion cn extremely difficult one. Of course we should not make any
stetement thet is not true.
On the other hend the prospective customer naturally vents
to have some idea as to vhet he iy buying; you kmow that the price
of the battery is very high; est this time thet is not a very serious
matter, or would not be of ony great consequence if we could give
the buyer some recsonoble hope that the bettery would last him Long
enough to warrant him in paying the high price.
ily position is somewhat different from that of the other
selesmen, because I am selling street cars; they are selling automo-
biles. They compete with lead batteries; I do not compete with
lead batteries. I compete with trolley cars, cnd the estimates of
relative costs which I am compelled to make, the buyer necessarily
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compares, item for item, with the trolley cer conditions.
ith this battery I em reelly entering a new field and
an trying to educate the buyers up to the idea of cdopting storare batiry
street cars; of course I have no idea in the near future of inducing
eny gveat number of men to do this, but here end there, as time goes
on, I think I will succeed in getting these cars into sorvice.
So that the temptation for me to make statements that might
be regarded es a little extrevegent is very great. Neturally I am
enthusiastic about the battery and sincerely ond firmly believe
that it will perform splendidly. iiy ideas sre based upon whet the
battery hes already done.
Take for instonee the curve sheet which you have end vhich
shows 476 complete charges and discharges; 1 believe it would be fair
to call it 5¢Q complete discharges, which the battery hes probably
arrived at by this time. Taling the car mileage vhich I Imow we can
moke per discharge and under the very cdverse conditions here in New
York, which is 80 miles and multiply this by the number of discharges
and we would have 40,000 miles. Wow the averege number of cer miles
which ordinary cars make per annum is 15,000. Converted into years,
and assuming the cbove figures to be correct, the battery would actually
drive the cer 2,542 years or two years, one hundred and twenty-five days,
at the end of vhich period the battery would be about 10% greater in
capacity then when first put into service. Now in reality thig would not
be an extravagent estimate, and it is based on actual experience.
The question seems to be: should we actually state this as a
fact, or should we wait for a while longer, ond state meentime that this
represents the work of the Edison Battery which we believe to be
cheracteristic. Right here seems to come the rub. lf we say thet
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we beliove this to be a typical performance we express a doubt which
the buyer will see immediately en probebly magnify.
Now I do not want to meke ony statement which is not true,
as I have stated to you heretofore, but I do want to be able to stete
the facts end I woulda very much like . you to lmow vhat stetenents
I make about the battery, . ;
How in regard to the.stetement to me by ur Ed@ison, cs to the
expected life of the battery, I do not remember iir Sdison's exact
words, but several times he told me thet he expected the probable life
of the battery to be very long, probably ten to fifteen years, I did
not sey to iir Schader thet the battery vould last that long; noither
length of time. I intended to convey the impression that ,from various
laboratory experiments ,iir Edison thought the battery would probably last
that long. Of course the word "lest™ is an indefinite expression, and
unfortunotely it is a thing we heve to deal with ct this time cs to the
probable Life of the battery. Tet is our misfortwme. I will avoid
using that ex:ression hereafter, however, of Mr Edisons', as I can
appreciate how it might be misconstrucd into a promise, I think your
eriticism is a good one.
About the letter from lr Whitridge I will write you more fully
on sionday., I vant to consider carefully whet I hea better do about this
matter: offhend it strikes me the ettitude taken by iir Yhitridge is
really foolish. As a matter of fact I have never, either by word or
deed, done anything that he could reasonably teke offense at. The
whole trouble with iir Whitridge arises out of two causes; one is, the
engineer he has deceived him, end the other is that iir hitridge is
avery "fussy" man and greatly impressed with the sense of hig orm
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ability. I have no doubt he is a men of groat ability.
Naturally I hesitate to turn the car over to a man that
feels unfriendly towards us. “here the cer is now the people are
very friendly; they like it. They sre anxious to have it and more
of them,
It is true the service conditions on the 28th-29th Strect
Line sre very bad, but thet is good for us; if we heve bad conditions
to meet snd overcome them then ve have secomplished something. To
meke this clearer to you; the track over which we are now working
is en unusuelly bea track. I4 jolts end jars the car auch more than
would be possible on eny track of the Third Avenue system. That is
just exactly the kind of track we need, in order to teach us where the
weak points are in the structure, Youwill eppreciete thet if we
work under ideal conditions it would require a very long time to devel-
op our wealmesses, vhereas if we work under unfavorable conditions of
track and traffic, we discover our wealmesses very quickly. For in-
stance we broke axles on threo different occasions; this wau due to
the bad track, but it has taught us vhere the axle was weak, and if
on a smooth track it is cltogether probable we would not heve broken
on axle, and would therefore not heve mown where the axle was weak,
and we might, end probably would, have gone shead and turned out a
ereat many cars with bad axles, then put them on bad tracks and broken
a whole lot of axles, whereas, in the present service, we have only
broken a few axles, but have learned, within a short time, how to pro-
vide the proper axles for these cars.
I will write you more fully with regerd to iir Whitridge on
Monday.
Yours very truly,
iste. |
\ |S alee pols 5
R.H. BEACH
10 FIFTH AVE., TEL. 1352 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
(USING EDISON sToRAGE BATTERIES)
J BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS
oe
April 19, 1910.
uy Frank 1.Dyer,
Vice-President, Edison Storase Battery Company ,
Orange, ld.
ay dear itr Dyer:
Replying to your fevorsof the 18th instant regerding iir
‘“Bergmann's letter of the 1st (which 1 return herewith), the fol-
oe 2
lowing are the fects about the car:
The reprint enclosed gives oa detsiled description of
the construction of the carbody, truck, clcctrice] equipment, ete,
The oneretine detcils I regret to advise I emnot at this moment
give you more in detail then below:
The ecr wos put into repuler service on Merch 2nd, on
the 28th & 29th Street Crosstorn Roilvay. Since thet time
it has been in regular service, Ye hrve broken three exles,
though on thet point there is no use considering the matter
as it has no beering on the general operetion of the car.
Aside from thet the cer hes opemted continuously and
Tre tlew
is meking regularly Bee e ECr day or per charge. ie have made a
nunber of counts and the average is about 8 stops per mile. The
average eurrent conswned per car mile (and this sverage was arriv-
ed at by very close observation) is 853 watt hours in-take into
the bettery. The output of the battery avereges 529 watt hots
(et motors) per car mile. ie pet quite e wide renge of current
in the discharge, Ordinerily the cer takes on the first step of
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controller, 60 amperes at 50 volts, accelerating ¢t the rete of
1 mile per hour per second. In 5 seconds the car is rmning at
5 miles per hour, but vhen running et 5 miles per hour, or et the
end of the first 5 seconds, it drops to 20 earcres, the voltage
reneining et 50, Cn the 2nd step, the ecceleration remcining at
the sane rete, the current rises agein to Go amperes vith a voltage
of 100, but ct the ond of the next 5 seconds, the eurrent has epgain
dropped to 20 amperes. Cn the Srd step, maintaining the sane rate
of ecv-eleration, the current rises to 160 amperes, the voltege re-
maining ot 100. <At this point the car is meking 15 MPH, «nd while
méintaining this speed on e level track, tekes sbout 50 amperes.
Io say “about" 50 emperes, because it is extrenely difficult to set
eny average information in rerular running. Veriotion in track
conditions, as well as veriation in service to be performed, render
it extremely difficult to get eny reslly accurete deta, but the
ebove is very close to what the car is uctuelly evereging in regu-
lar service.
Now as to current consumption per cer mile, you will be xble
to inform your correspondent thet it is very low. This is due to
the poculiar ear drive end construction of the truck, By tho use
of the chain drive we maintcin the seme direction of rotation in the
armeture end the driven wheel, therefore all moving parts of the
caxy are moving in the seme direction simultaneously, which is quite
favorable to its action, in coasting. “uch more so than if in the
reversed direction, es would be necessary with the ordinary gseer-
pinion drive. This is a very noticeable feature of these cers,
Grdinarily, running on.o level track, the car will have the current
on for perhaps one-fourth of the time; the belance of the time
it will run yithout current. This is particularly edvantag cous
FrD-35.
in eity traffic}:end sccounts in pert for the long mileege thet
we get per charge of the battery.
This car goes out at 6 in the morning and remains out until
8:30 in the cvening, movene elmost constantly. stops are seldom
over 10 or 15 seconds duration.
I have hed a study of the car made by the engineers of the
Lynn Works of the General Electric Company, who heve made a very
exhaustive study with very elaborate recording and measuring in-
strunents, but I heve not yet received their report; I expect to
receive it now at eny time, and will be very glad to send you over
@ copy when received.
However, the two principel points in the car construction are
the chain drive end the differential axle. Those ere the principal
improvements. 50 fer as the body is cohcerned, it is very light.
I ein pleesed to be able to advise you thet while the car has
been subjected to very unfavorable conditions, frequently carry-
ing 50 or 60 passengers end over a road, on vhich it is almost
"criminal" to operate upon, at no point in this cer body hes the
slightest deflection of any character developed. It is just as true
and rigid as the day it left the shop. I feel sure this is due
especially to the lattice-girder construction, which we use wnder
each seat, forming 2 backbone, as it were, to the car end holding
right up to the very severe stresses and work performed with this
You mey stete to ir Bergmann thet as soon eas we heve complete
data, upon which the engineers are now working, we will very cheer-
fully furnish same.
Repording informetion furnished to other foreign points, beg
to edvise thet no information hes been furnished or will be furnish-
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pains
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ed to European parties, for the present at least, except to ir
Parshall at Tondon; of course we heve received a creat many in-
quiries from various European countries, but we have siaply renlied
in © general way, enelosing one of the reprints such as you find
enelosed herewith.
Yours very truly,
{Enels)
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JAS.R BROWN. F.H.BROWN.
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HMiibouQl April 20, 1910,
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Mr. Thos. A. Edison, Say _ let ae Tee
South Orange, N. J. Lt sa ee cea tt
rae :
Dear Sir: Ler tt 6 as Cz;
I should like tc have you advise me whd }I Paya
write to regarding the Beach Edison Storaré Battbry for
street cars. We want to take this matter up with a view of
ordering cars equipped with this battery and any information
you can give me will be very greatly arpreciated.
Yours truly,
GEO. W. BROWN, JR.
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a April 26, 1910.
lire R. H. Boaoch,
LO Pifth Ave.,
How York.
Dear Mr. Boach:
i ‘havo at last succooded in disposing of our Fow
York office on e lease talcing offect not later than Mey 15th, and
it will therefore be nocessery for you to move as soon as possi-
bie.
Lot mo mow what you would propose to do, whethor to
stay in llow York or possibly to como out hero. I have not had”
time yot to discuss the mattor with tr. Edison and do not mow
whet his viows oro, but possibly ho might be willing to have you
come out here if you thought you could hendle your proposition
from Orengo. At any rate, lot mo mow whet you think should bo
dono for your orm interost and I will thon tako up the mettor
with ifr. Edison.
Yours vory truly,
BLD/ Ly Vico-"rosidont.
R.H. BEACH
10 FIFTH AVE., TEL. 1382 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
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\\ (USING EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES)
April 28, 1910.
ur P.L.Dyer,
Vice-President, Ldison Storage Battery Co.,
Orenge, Id.
Dear iir Dyer:
Replyine to your very kind letter of the 26th sbout en office;
I iasve been looking about to find a suiteble plece, end will wove pro-
bably betreen the present date and the Sth proxino; at eny rete mmrely
before the 15th of Mey.
About going out to Orange; I vould be delighted to do so,
would much prefer to go there in fact, were it not for the feet that
p
nearly sll of my work is here. The first thine we have on hand is to
sell some cars, end then when it comes to uuildins, we build the bodics
here, and assemble ont there, so that I believe, everything considered,
it is better to remain in lienhetten.
Loon looking about between 23rd and 42nd strects; xrents are
lower up there and the locstion seems convenient for my nurposes. I
heave in ming thet you wight perhaps like to heve someone from the
Storase Batlery Commmy, possibly ii Bee or iir Doty, have desk room
with me, md I will certainly keep this in mind when I engage offices.:
You need expect to pay anything for it, because you have been good to me,
and I vill most gladly return the compliment in this way.
Yours very truly,
Mey 5, 1910.
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Hy. Goo. W. Brovm, Jr-,
Hillsboro, Till.
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Dear Sir:
Your fevor of Avril 20th to Ur. Edison on the subject of
the use of the Edison battery Lor street cars, has beon reterrod
to me, and I heave token the liberty of referring your Letter to
llr. BR. E. Boaeh, who is at present occupying Guartorg in ow Mew
Yoric Office, No. 10 Pifth Ave. My. Beach hes been doing consider-
able work in designing md devoloving 2 car ospocially aderted
for the Edison bettery end a numbor of ir. Ediscen's ideas ore
ombodied in this car. ir. Edison's only connection with My. Boach
io to the oxtont thet in case the car is develcpod to a satisfac-
tory point we will furnish him the neccousary betteries Tor use
with the samo. Apparently the tests which Mr. Beach is meking
and which have been very oxtensivoly reforrved +o in the press heve bee
auite succossiul, and I have every roason to believe that the car
in his charge will bo developed to an ontiroly satisfactory and
commercial odtont.
ir. Beach no doubt will furnish you with complete data
rogerding his car end will be gled to answer any auostions rolat-
ing to the seme.
Yours very truly,
Vice-Prosidont.
Buck - Bosdy
R.H. BEACH
JO FIFTH AVE, TEL. 1382 GRAMERCY
NEW YORK
BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CARS
(USING EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES)
Nay 18, 1910.
Ly Thomas A.dison, whl 45 ®
Orenso, Nde
ily dear My Edigon:
Some time azo, as you Imow, ths Gould Battery reople frnished
a battery to the Third Avenue Company for use in their battery car; they
put in 40 cells, with a total waight of 3,200 lbe and an ampere hour
capacity of 420.
They have had a groat many different verities of trouble with
this battory; on charge the battery rises up to 127 degrees Farenhoit;
I do not know the tomperature on i but it is over 100 dogroes. .
With the batteries under the car, as they have them arranged, it is very
difficult to give them the necescary ventilation while charging.
Tho Third Avenue Compeny tried to induce the Gould people to
furnish thase batteries on @ car mileego basis, end the Gould people
have positively declined to do soe Now the Third Avenve Company are .
taking out the Gould battery and cre negotiating with the Exido people
to fwnish batteries on a car mileage basis, and their proposition, or at
least tho ‘proposition thoy are now working on (which it not yet definitely
sottled), 1s to fmnish batteries with a woight of 4000 lbs, ampero hour
capacity of 420, upon a guarsnteed cost por car mile of 7¢.
Ly information comes from what I believe to be a fairly reliable —
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Office:26-28 Beaver St, HY. New Yori, May 27th, 1910.
W-House: 44 Stone St, Bayex NY, .
Pactory & Laborat:Bayonne, Nd.
Federal Storage Battery Car Co-,
50 Church St, New York.
Gentlemen:
. in reply to your inquiry regarding Hr Lee J.King of Rio de Janeiro
I have much pleasure in stating that he has come to us with the very highest endorse-
ments from our om resident agent in Rio, who is a careful and conservative mane
fecording to our agent's report, lir King is in New York to obtain the
Brazilian agenoy for various firms of this country, and counts upon 2 long exper—
ience in Rio together with ample financial support. 1 quote to you from a private
“Jetter to me from our representative eerdiae Ur King; "as to his financial condi-
tion, + may state that apart from his resources, he can command the use of any capital
that may be found necessary to carry on any b usiness he may take hold of, whatever
its size may be. As to his personal quelities, I imow him to be an energetic - ,
thoroughly honest and fully capable men, being therefore splendidly equipped to do just .
tice to any line that may be entrusted to his care." .
The ietiax also states that ik King jas considerable influence in
Brazil, and I should judge that his services would be very valuable to any concern
seeking an agent in that coumtry.
The above is given of course, without responsability to me, and I beg
to remain, Gentlemen, .
Yours very truly,”
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\ (Signed) R.G.Barclay.
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Hy dear My Edison: 4 ed er aon en
A gentleman by a name of Lee J.King, for many years cénnected with
The General Electric Company and later with Messrs.Guinle & Co., at Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil, has come to New York and he wishes to represent us in Brazil with the idea
of selling cars.
He gave me for reference officials of the American Locomotive Company,
William Guiler Co-, Barclay & Co., etc. The American Locomotive people advise that
Ey King was at one time one of the Managers at Rio for Guinle & Coe, that he impressed
them very favorably on the occasion of the visit of one of their officials to Rio ;
and that they found he was in good standing there, had a very wide acquaintance
in Brazil and should make us a moe representative. Willion Guiler Co*, advise
the same. The firm of Barclay & Cp., is a very old and reliable concern here,
and I enclose copy of their reply to my inquiry about ir.King.
Ye ought to be represented down there; of course on a commission basise
ir King would also like to have the sale of your batteries for other uses; he is
a gentleman of excellent address and the letters from Barclay & Coe, and others
speak so well of him that I feel much disposed to give him the agency for the carne
I would seem to me that in those remote countries, where the market is
necessarily limited anyhow, that he ought to have the ogency for the batteries also.
If you feel disposed to take the matter up with Mr King, I will be very glad to
bring him over to see you, or send him to Mir Dodge as you prefer.
ly King is very well informed generally as a business man and he is an
electrical engineer, and seems altogether suitable for an agent; I therefore take
pleasure in recommending him to you, and can say that if you decide to give him
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agency for the battery, I will give him the agency for the car, and we might make
some arrangement for him with trucks from Lansden and set him a good account with
Bailey and Anderson; such a combination would give him something worth while to
work on, and I really believe he would get some profitable business for all con-
cerned.
Yours very truly,
(Dict.by Mr Beach)
(Enels)
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MANUFACTURERS OF
“BEACH CARS"
EQUIPPED WITH
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“x Thomas #.Udison, f “EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES” June 11, 1910.
ORANGE, Nd ee ee
. 2 . v4 fe : Af 1779 HUDSON TERMINAL
My dear My Edison: é iM SO CHURCH STREET
; a ae ‘PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
a oa
( jv NEW YORK CITY
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fam glad to be able to advise you thet the Third !veme difficulty
seems to be solving itself in 2 mameor thet is favorable to a 4s I have
previously informed you, I believe, “y Sdward A.iiaher is the only practical rail-
road man in the outfit, and ho is ow friendy I do not Imow that he is perticu-
larly our friend so much as he is a friend of that property ond he is intelligently
and conscientiously trying to improve the property. Ho has sense enough to know
thet by doing that he also helps himself. He is not at all friendly to Mullaney.
“y Mahar has been elected President of the road 1+ was supposed, as a matter
of fact by the adherents of Ur Whitridge that Whitridge would be President. The
election has occurred ond Mehar is President md in command. This is oltogether
in our favor.
Ig I have not already told you, I now tol] you that Mr Mahar has given
us an order for ono car and assures me that they will want a sreat many. He puts
the number ut 150, ond the time during which they will purchase them sometime
during the next two years; he thought they would becin to purchase them within
the next six months.
I tell you this but suggest that you ieop the matter strictly to yourself,
ag it would be unwise, I think, for the information to pet out, at least for the
present.
Yours very truly,
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ORANGE, NJe pore HUDSON INAL
z Se, 50 CHURCH STREET
ly dear Ur Batson: A ‘PHONE ww CORTLANDT
YORK Y: n
va, We oie a JN 48 oi
s just one thing which I would like you to do. which you can do snd
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af soems to me you certainly ought to do; it would help materially in selling
ese cars. ‘hat is, I want the use of your name. I spoke to you about it once
7 before, but you soomed to think it was not 2 good thing. Neturally you hesitete in ;
permitting the use of your name- From the experience you have had in that respect
I do not Imow that 1 plane you very much.
But as a matter of fact I have made good; 1 have built a successful car
aid I om going to moke it more successful and keep everlastingly at its improvement
no matter how perfect or acceptible it may to the vatlway profession. Like all
things electrical and mechanical this cer is a thing that will always afford
een ay oe for improvement.
I heave paid my way, havo not borrowed eny money from you, do not owe
anybody that I camot pay, cen pay for anything I get, have plenty of carital to
do the work with moro where that cone from, ond I om very surely going to build
this into a big business, and I want to cell these cars the Beach-Edison Cars.
Shether we call it the Beach-Edison car or not the world calls it that
anyhow, and there is no way that I imow of that will prevent the general public
from continuing to call it the Beach-Edison Car. If you will note the various
clippings from the technical and lay press throughout the United States and even
foreign countries, you will find the reference is inveriably to the Beach-Edison
Car or the Edison-Beach Cor.
How thy Edison it seems to mo this is not very much to ask of you. It is
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distinctly to your benefit, beceuse it helps me so mich to sell the cars.
I co not care cnything ebout the glory, but it is necessary in this
world to coll things by some nome, od thet is in reality the name of this car, end
if you say that it is all right it will help 2 whole lot. If you do not allow it,
of course I will not use it under any circwnstances but everybody else will use
it.
I imow of nothing you need be ashamed of, ma as a metter of fact dont
mu
you think you ought to be proud of it? +here never was a streot car thet worked
as economically and consistently as this cor works, md I thoneht you would ve
proud to have yow name’ hooked on to it.
You do not need to write me a letter ebout it; just tell Miller to call
me up on the ‘phone and say that "it is all right".
P yA §
yo)
f\ y pack,
Vory truly yours,
RoPlecy { St,
FRANK L, DYER,
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MEMORANDUM
REFER TO THIN NUMBER
IN YOUR REPLY
So gg Det
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ir. H. Fe Miller:-
June 17, 1910.
Kr. R. H. Beach, in a letter to Mr. Edison,
of the lltn inst., refers to the use by him of a little red
shed in which he wishes to have two doors cut by Mr. Edison.
He wants to know what rent he shall pay for the use of this
shed and lr. Edison suggests $20. per month, I have written
Er. Beach to thie effect today. I wish you would find out
how long ltr. Beach has occupied this shed and charge him at
tilts vate, and also make a note of the fact so that he may
he charged $20 a month so long as he occupies the building.
fhe understanding is that Mr. Beach will be allowed to occupy
the building so long as we do not need it,
F.L.D.
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Ly Whomas Addison,
Orange, Hde 1779 HUDSON TERMINAL JUN Oe 5) -
, 50 CHURCH STREET we HO
Ly dcax La Udison: »@ ‘PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
oo NEW YORK CITY
we I onclose herewith cory of letter fraa Ly Baxter L.Browm, Chief Ensincer,
Hast St Louis, Colwabia & Waterloo Rye, St Louis, oe his letter is peouliarly
gertifying because ef the fact that the iz Haynes referred to therein is Prosidont
of the Hast St Lowis & Suburbon Reilwoy Company, & very important concem, orerating
sone 200 cars. mr Haynes is aiso Fresident of 2 banic and a prominent wen in St Louis
affoirs. Beiny from issouri I had to show i2 Hayes. He cane here full of skepticisn
end although, judginy from his attitude when he came here at first, he cid not really
take nmch stock in ovy claims, I did not tulic to hin very much; I judged hin to be
21m to whom the more I said the less he would ‘velicve. I told him therefore to
go and see the car ond ride on it, alone, or with avyone he pleased, end to talk to
the motormen, the conductor or to auybody he could find thot imow anything at oll
about ite The result of }a Hayne's visit you can judge largely from the contents
of the lettor, per enclosure.
In addition thereto, after i2 Hoynes made his investigation he returned
to my office and told me that the probdom of economical transportation of passengers
on the surface of the streets was very greatly improved by ow system of car propulsion,
and that there was no question but that in tho course of timo his road would get cow
to this method of propulsion of their 200 cars.
stated above, I 29 very much gretified to have converted such a hide~
be
t
a
bound, tight fisted and hardheaded o1¢ fellow as Haynes, and I thougit you would
like to know about it.
Yours very truly,
EHCLS
Hast 8+ aes Colwibia &
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Waterloo Railway,
Baxter L.Browm, Chief inzineor, : Ho«1G6540
610 Merchants Laclede Bldg. ,
$2 LOUIS, 1:06
June 23rd, 1910.
otleBG ach,
0-5) ¢ Chureh St, ‘
Now Yorke
Deoy Sir:
Refe:ring to recent correspontence relative to storace battery car anc more
especially to vow letter of Jue 11th.
ia Isynes has returned from his trip sast and hos revorted the result of his
meeting with you and examination of the care
iosm oll tho more convinced tint the [6 passenjer cer will move to be better
wleased to have vou
adapted to ow business, but wider the circwastences would be
position for one of the 26 passenger cars subject to trial on the
St Lonis & Suburbem Rye Th is itmortent thet we oes this car at
Aye a5 <A
wm) carly dite, as we hope to ave the road ready for oxeration in the fall ang 21
the questions concerning eguiyment and nower will have to be held up vending a definite
Tounderctend from ia Usynes thet you sre not propsred, just al this tine ; to
state a definite price or date of delivery on the 50 passenter capacity cars but
would be pleased to have you advise me ayproximately on these points. I jude that
we would require three of these cers in order to start vesuler oreration or we might
be able to opornte for a short time with one 26 pescenger car aid wo of the larger
onese
Bs
dm pleased to state that Ly foynoh report, in general, is quite fevoreble.
In lookin: over the printed matter which you have sent me, as well as
respondence , 1 dont aco omy montion made as to how you propose to heat tho cars.
batteries occupying all of the spece alon- the sides -f th cor I dont
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to Locate a a stove there end with the omtrence in the centre at
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the onds thore is no Spe tentts thore for a stove. Fs
Yours truly,
2 (sGD) BAKWEL L. BROW
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MANUFACTURERS OF
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EQUIPPED WITH
My Thomas A.Edison, wA""\ -coison storace_sarrerics” July 1, 1910.
Orange, NJ. Co ;
My dear My Edison: Yi abet yuoson TERMINAL
tO CHURCH STREET
o ‘PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT Mica 7 —
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We started to work out a re;
ogue, the seme as everybody
else has been geeting out, amd we are still at work at it, but it takes so much time ;
the printers and engravers delay and disappoint so much that it has crowded us to get
it out, so we desided to gat out 100 booklets, just like the one I an sending you
herewith; will send you over a bunch of them the first of the week; being real pho-
tographs they are a little expensive-—they cost about $1.50 each or per book, but
even so that is better than waiting so long, and being photographs this gives the im-
pression to a man seeing the booklet for the first time that the car is the real thing.
You will not by looking over this booklet the pictures show the car working
under various conditions, and as ow business develops we can readily add to the book-
let such additional photographs or data as occasion requires. For instance the first
picture shows yourself working the car in tho. snow; this answers questions very fre-
quently received as to how the car works in winter and snowe The second pictures the
samé+ The third picture shows the detail of the interior. Other pictures following
show the car under various conditions of track and traffic—at curve » congested comers
of Broadway, Fifth and Fourth Avenues, at the ferries of the Hast and West Side » and
characteristic conditions we meot in operating the car through dom town New York streets.
The views showing famous buildings and thoroughfares in themselves are very interesting
ond make the car lifelike. This strikes me as being very much better than the ordinary
form of catalogue, at least for our Purposes Following these pictures you will note
the reproductions of the line drawings, from which you will note the changesand additions
for the new cars. There is shown the Change in the motor suspension, the distance rod
TAE~2e
that wo. are adding, as well as the new bearings, etce I am very sure that in these
we have affected a very decided improvement. From the end view shown you will note a
slight change in the lines of the new cars; this is better and it gives a wider aisle.
Following the photographs is a performance sheet and on the last page is the
Price list.
‘Ig you think it is a good idea, I will adda couple of photographs of the
batteries; probably this would be a good thing to do—if you think so please let me
imowe
Yours very truly,’
ENCLS. / /
Dict. by My Beach. ;
July 12, 1910.
Mr, R. H, Beach,
1779 iiudson Terminal Building,
New York City,
Dear Mr. Beach!~
I must apologize for not making an earlier
reply to your letter of June 11th to If. Edison, but I have been
away a good deal recently and it seems to have been overlooked,
xe Edison cannot meat you to use his name in connea=
tion with your car and you should make all reasonable efforts
to prevent the public from associating his name with it. So
far as the public is concerned, it in simply the Beach car
equipped with Edison batteries. ‘There ure many reasons. why I
would most strongly advise lr. Hdison in thin matter not to per-
mit his name to be used, but the important one to my mind is
that itr. Edison will not allow his name to be used in conneotion
with any enterprise except those in which he ip directly inter-
ested and for whioh he feels a certain sense of personal response
ibility. You would be surprised to know how many similar re-
quests we are constantly receiving, and should an exception to
the general rule be made in your case, it would be difficult to
explain why it should not be made in all cases. I hope, there-
ca i
#2 ~ Mr. Re He Beaoh.
fore, that you will do nothing to perpetuate the connection
of Mr, Edison's name with your car, and in referring to it
make it perfectly clear that Mr. Edison's only financial
interest in your enterprise is in supplying you with batter-
ies so long as he is satisfied with the way the business is
handled.
Yours very truly,
BLD/ ARK. Vice-President.
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Ly I.L.Dyer,
Vice-Frest., Edison Storage Battery Cot
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aon
: eo MANUFACTURERS OF
“BEACH CARS"
EQUIPPED WITH
“EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES” July 28. 1910.
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NGE Nd 1779 HUDSON TERMINAL
Man eS SO CHURCH STREET
“PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
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NEW YORK CITY AWS
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We heve your favor of the 27th in which you quote from letter of Ly
wy.
GeLelestor, Son Francisco. IL am pleased to be cble to advise you thet we have
commnicated fully with iy Nestor. + brief history of the matter is this;-
Ly Nestor wrote us first in regard to the matter on June 29th , en
closin:; a map and some data as to crades, etce, but did not sive us tho schedules,
number of cars required or any idea as to the muber of passengers to be moved. “e
requested this information, but did not get anything from him until receipt of
his letters of July 19th and 20th. “e now have ample data, have advised him fully,
end &8 s00n as we recoive some more information which we nave requested as to the
amount of traffic at "rush hows" md some idea as to the time and duration of
tne "rush hour” business, will submit detoiled and formal estimate and proposal.
The difficulty with lr Yestor is thot in this street railway work he
does not understand or appreciate how necessary it is for us to have minute data;
you will understend that in making 2 bid on a car , Ov a number of cars, we have
to mow all about the service to be performed, the speed, the grades, the curves,
approximately the number of stops ver mile, the speed on grades, load to be carried,
average and maximun speed required, etc., and all details in order that we may lay
out car adapted to the specific requirements.
This we have endeavored to impress upon ly Nestor, and I believe he now
understands that we must have the detailed information.
You will appreciate that it is different with the battery car than with a
PLD—£e0
trolley car.
In this instoce of the Geary Street Line in San ¥rencisco , it is a very
difficult proposition. The line is made up entirely of srafes and while , from
the information which we have at hand, I am inclined to the belief that we can
build a car that will do the work all right, we do not propose to take any chances
on it; thet would be equally as bad for the battery as for the car, and you may
be very sure that if we prepare an estimate and take the contract, we will be on
the safe and sme side.
Next time I am in Orengo I will be glad to come in a let you Imow what
progress ve are making. It is not out of place to state meantime that wo are making
very f00d progress.
Yours very truly,
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY,
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RAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY ph
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MANUFACTURERS OF
Lam august oy 1910.
s Adisfn, rs
1779 HUDSON TERMINAL
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: infeceint of the letter from Robert a.Lav in, 2106
em this mornis
‘
O'Farrell St, San “reneiseo, Cale, of date July 18, sddrvessed to tho -ayor of
1 ? a v7 i
Vast Spence, by him vetorred to you ond by you vreforred to mee “Y Lewin
wonts & lot of information ebout these bottery cers for oon #remeisco, end I
a very sure that the information he wan or the same rroposition that
liestor is handling out there. “he auestion oeours to ne , ere we doing the
right thins by Uestor in civins; this iufomation to La Leurin, & mon whon we do
not Imovw; therefore before siviny the information to him I have requested
him to advise us who he is.
:
I vother think thet the situation in San Hyancisco is developing in our
favor; yestorday a la “ulleley ; prother of the head man of the United Railweys
of Sen “ywaneieco, called here also to find out cbout the car, cnd he also
wants to butt in and help sell thesé cars. I judge from enpearances thot it is
getting to be rather commonly widerstood in San Fyancisco that the Cita is soing
to buy theso cars, and naturally every body wants to butt in and make something
out of ite
I feel that we ought to protect Nestor very fully, cnd an just waiting
for him to get the situation ‘ripe, 50 that once it is in prover shape to close,
I will fo ows there myself and clase up the contract. Leantime I have written
y Lauren per the enclosed copy, and I return herewith his letter as remested.
Yours very truly,
@ e
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es
Battin, St,
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY
MANUFACTURERS OF
“BEACH CARS”
EQUIPPED WITH
“EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES" ) aa
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Dear Sirt= : we'\ gO ‘i
We have just received some of the booklets from the printers,
these being a reproduction of the booklet of photographs of which you
have copics, with the addition, however, of a very good half-tone of some
of the Battery Cells.
We have had ghese printed so that we can add other pages of
outs and deta,either printed or typewritten from time /%o time as occasion
offers, without the expense of publishing an entirely’ now booklet.
Mr, Thos. A. Edison,
We are rears & copy of this booklet to eyery street railway
Cospeny in the country and we also have a reliable list of people who have
secured franchises or placed bond issues for the construction of new electric
railways, to whom we are also sending copy of the booklet and to both the
established companies and those in the course of organization, we are sending
personal letters, giving data ani information specifically applicable to the
conditionsand Peguiscue abe of each particular road. ;
We anticipate very favorable results from this oompaign.
Very truly yours,
FEDERAL OS CAR COMPANY.
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My Robort AeLourin, _ Auguot 3, 1910.
#106 O'Forrol Stroot,
SAN PRANCISCO, CAle
Dear Sirs
Your favor of the 18th instant to tho Neyor of Vast Orengo, ede, wan
“referred to My Thoms ‘eHALoon, ond by him to us for attontion, as vo aro
tho mamecturors of tho Storaso Battery Cars.
Under soperate cover wo aro today mad lin: you booklot im vhnich you will
Lind onovwer to cll of your quostionse Befom quoting you price, ve vould
thats you to adviso ws with roforenco » o xoferenceo if pospible, in order that
wo may Imow with whom wo aro dealings
Ve have an agent in your Sty, and perhaps it vould vo bottor for you to
call on him, oo ho is uroparad to givo you all of tho information that yoa
requirog his namo and eddresa io: ta CeE-lontor, 612 Shreve Building, Sn
Frencisoo, Cale
Yourp very truly,
FaDERAL SGORAGE BATTARY CAR COMPANY »
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Copy to My Eaison, Y LAL KD, u al
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Restore
gf TERERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY 7 \
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MANUFACTURERS OF |
“BEACH CARS”
EQUIPPED WITH \
Ly
“EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES” sugnst 2, 1910.
WEDISON STORAGE BATTERIES”
mye sepa
: OMAGE,
50 CHURCH STREET
‘PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
NEW YORK City S|
“0 recnived today from you the onclosed letter sent vou by Messrs.linehen
Searceia amend ARAN
i: Son., of Tovmsville, Queensland, Australis, asitin- for information about the
erence eRe NRRL MIME Se POY PAE Ed et a TE Wile Air ieeh NORA E
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ears, and on accomt of the very excellent roferences the; offer and the yos-
pect for business in their territory, we have seen fit to offer them tho AGene:
on 2 tentative arrancoment, for \uecensland, yer the enclosed copy of letter 3
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to them of even dete. We heve tricon cory of their letter. i
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WoDuRAL STORAGE DATORRY CAR COMDOY G
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Hosorsellinehan & Sone , August 3, 1910.
Civil Engineers, ;
Townsville, Queensland, Australias
Gentlemen:
Your favor of the 18th ultimo to Lr Thomas AeEdison, relative to cars
equipped with the Edison Storage Battery, has been referred to ue for attentions
Under seperate cover we are today mailing you booklot with illustrationa of
our car Noel in regular service, this city, together with repunductions of
lines drawings of construction details of the ca, and also copy of Perfor—
mance Sheet covering operation 4n regular sorvice of Car Noel in this City for
@ period of three months, as well as an illustration of five of the Edison
Storage Battery colis. te are also sending you description of the Edison Battery.
Ye are now building ond selling cars as described in the booklet, and
during tho late fall will have out a double truck, 50 passenger car, on
which we wi11 be pleased to quote you price and furnish doteil within e few
weokbe
However, the single truck car, with seating capacity for 26 passonrers ma
standing capacity for 15 passengers, would yrobably be more suitable to tho condi-
tions you have at Tovmaville. These care havo a maximum specd capacity of about
18 miles per hour, but to operate at that speed 1t is desirable to lengthen tho
wheel base from 6 fte 6 ine, as ab present to 9 ft. 9 ine ith maximum battery
capacity of 105 cells of the A/s8 battery, such as described in the booklet we
are sending, these cars have a capacity of from 75 to 100 miles per normal bat=
tery charge, seccording to the condition of track, traffic and schedules. =
The Edison Battery, however, will withstand without injury short charges of
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15 to 30 minutes duration, at about ia Aenean the normal charging rete,
so that if it is ores, 4n the 7 o of the regular car service, to let
car ae aie c ly dining The short feriods of timo, at the high rate,
sufficient current may be taken into the batteries to operate the ca for from
ten to fifty miles in additione, to the mileage capacity from normal battary
charges Tho normal charging time is seven hourse
In a great many oases, such lerge battery cepacity is not required, in
which caso we furnish cars with a smeller number of the 4/6 cells, or with
the 4/6 cells, thereby eliminating weight ond the expense of moving that
oxtra woight through the streets, and also reducing the price of the cate
If you will advise tho length of the road at Tovmsville, grades, if any,
end length of grades, curves, stops per mile, with speed capacity and seating
capecity noeded, stating whether you would med closed body cars with longi-
tudinal seats, as Gesoribed in the booklet, or open body cars with trensversal
seats, and advise as to the location of the power or charging plant » and also
whether you would beadle to take current from some lighting or electric plant
already established, or intend to establish am independent plant, especially
for supplying power to these cars, wo will be able to. go into the subject more
intelligently and will be pleased. to furnish you with detailed information as
to best process of operating ow cars in your service, and also send you de-
tailed estimate and proposal covering the cars you need, and specifically adapt—
ed to your service.
On pages 11, 12, 15 and 14 of the bodkiet you will find detailg drawings
of the car construction, and you will note several devices rather novel and
altogether umique in electric railway car construction. We employ a dévided
axle arrengemont, which permits car to move arowmd curves without the excessive
friction and power loss of cars with rigid exles. \e use chain instead of gear
driving device, this making the dtiving gear practically a roller bearing. We
Wee teeeaeeene eatie
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find the saving in. power consumption, due to this chain drive, is considerable,
and that the chain wears even batter than the ordinary gear/goar drive. We
use roller peorings in the axle jownals and ball bearings in the motorféjournnisy
both of which eliminate friction and consequently economize in power consumption.
In construction of the car body wo have eliminated all ‘ipslaed weight ‘in mater=
fals and fixtures, as we havo accomplished also In the truck and other pértions
of the eae The car weighs complete only 10,000 lbs. We ‘paver oterge amount
of dead weight rather by careful, elimination of useless materials and fixtures,
commencing with the constantly vibrating trolley pole and heavy roof, and care~
ful selection of materials usd with moximm strength, thereby preserving the
dscented factor of strength and at ea than by ‘sacreficing strength, ond tho
workmanship end Se sign is even, better then uounily obtained in electric redlvey
car construction. You will also note the lattice steol girders that ‘primarily
serve as: battery receptivle, but that also ‘act-an a sort of "back bone" for
the qupenueeaotars. elas and. underframing of the entire oar body «
From the experience we have’ had in producing this car,. we are ane certain
1t is not possible to make a car suitable for propulsion by storage batteries
without the. numerous devicos: and methods: ho ‘construction bare we have desoribod
herein in para oe : . . ‘ ‘
The Edigon bab tory oan be loft:to etsnd ina charged or discharged condition
for any length of time without injury, it may be overcharged or "o, oaded, to
any reasonable extent without injury «nd it retains its. charge a ae
actual operation. The upkeep: cost and maintenance ‘te oxtre Sly low, +
care’ being required, is the addition of ‘distilled water’ oxy .other day or 50,
and. changing’ and renewing of electroiyte,. which const ts of coustio potash and
aistillea water ,: about Svery. eight months, all of which is very inexpensive.
This battery will: lost for many years Zhe exact munnbor of years we do not imow i
because we have not. had them out long enough to } 1017 when they will five oute
From laboratory tests and at alae however , hich are ordinarily reliable,
we assume they will last from
at least. They are very
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simple of charging and operation, and altogether reliable in servico.
Basing our calculations upon date fran ea number of electric railways,
and in a genoral way, wa find thet there is a saving of about 33% in cost of
construction and installation end in operating expenses and el] fixed charges
there ig a saving of about 33% also, comparing 2 given system equipped with
Our Cars as sgainst the system equipped with trolley cars of the same capacity.
“a heave no objections to arpointing you es our agents in Queensland, whereby
we will cooperate with you as far as possible, paying you a commission on all
sales you make or made through your intervention in that territory, the amomt
of the commission to be determined eat the time of the sale, and based upon ths
volune and circumstances of the sale. Ina general way we would be willing to
give you ten percent (10%) commission, but cannot now make the snout of sales
commisnion adfinite te cover all Cases, but in eech case will be glad to advise
you, in advance of sale, the commission you will be allowed covering each sale.
This to be effectivo as long as we are satisfied that you are advencing ou
interests in you territory, ond wo to have the right to rovoke this srrangemont
whoneyor ve feel that ow interests ave not being properly advanoed by you in your
territory.
Sf course what we sockis orders for cars, and doubtless if you sond along
some orders, we will find it desirable to make a more pexmment arrangement with
your
Tho price of the cara as described in the booklet, with full battery equip-
ment, complote in every detatl and ready for operation, is $6500.00, free elong~
sids ship, this city.
Wo will be glad to hear fron you further.
YOURS VERY TRULY,
FEDSRAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY ,
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fug. 6, 19110.
R. H. Beach, Eeq.,
Hudson Terminal Building,
HewgYork.
Dear Mx. Beach:
My. Edison wishes me perticulerly to take
up with you the matter of your letter to Mossrg. Minchan
& Son of Towmaeville, Austrelic. He has elready written
you objecting very strenuously to the oxagrereted state-
ments you make concoming the possibility of overcharg-
ing and the life of tho battery. He vants me partion-
lerly to emphasize that under no cirewistencos should
you make any oxoggoratod stetoments, which can only do
haya in the ond. Wo aro not selling mining stocks and
do not have to meke ea single oxagporated statorent.
Evory statement wo make is within the bounds of practi-
col corteinty, and, while tho results may show thot we
have boon too conservative, it is much botter to bo safe
than to have exaggerated statonents later on brought up
and end in disputes. I hope you will bear this point
always in mind and remenoer thet the Edison battery is
80 much better then ony other battery that moderate
statements are all that is neecssery.
_-
R. H. B. (2) 8/6/10.
In the presont caso I think in faimess to
vhose correspondonts of yours thut you should write them
pointing out thet by on oversight these statements ere
prohably stronger than you would cere to moko and change
them to secord with Mr. Edison's views. They certainly
would not think any the less of you if you aia this, ond
if you had business roletions with thom in the future
and your statements were shown to be too broad you
uight have an unpleasant time ehoead of you.
Yours very truly,
ier
my
f IAT Vioo-President.
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY
SSSA 2 AS BATTERY CAR COMPANY
MANUFACTURERS OF
“BEACH CARS”
EQUIPPED WITH
ly I.L.Dyer, “EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES” August 8, 1910.
Vice~Prest, Edison Stg.Bat.Co,
ORANGE, NJ. 1779 HUDSON TERMINAL
5OQ CHURCH STREET
ly deay Dyer: "PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
NEW YORK CITY
Replying to your favor of the 6th; 1 am very glad indeed to have your
criticism. Permit me, however, to impress upon you a thing which probably you
already lmow: ise. the difficulty under which we labor in selling these battery
cars. The one principal point which the prospective buyer wants to know about is
the probable life of the battery, and that is the one thing that no. body knows.
On page 3 of my letter of August Srd to Minehan & Son. , I state very
plainly that the exact number of years that the battery will last we do not Imow,
but from laboratory tests and experiments which are ordinarily relieble, we asswne
it will last from twolve to fifteen years. It does not scem to me that this is
an exaggerated statement. Ir it is I om glad to lmow it and will not use it
hereafter.
You must bear in mind that when a man buys these cars the cost of the
battery is a comparatively small portion of the total cost of his railway, but the
balence of the property, which amounts » roughly to several times the cost of the
battery, is equipped and designed especially for the use of the battery, and if
the vattery fails then his total investment would be lost. What I am trying to
do is to convey to the buyer or prospective buyer that in making this investment
he is not incurring any abnormal risk. I will see Mr Edison within a day or s0
and will endeavor to get this one point definitely understood end fixed.
In the street vrallway business it is impossible to compare this battery
with any other battery; the buyer would not use any other battery in any event.
Any intelligent man would not think, for a moment, of installing cars and a
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a completo railway equipment, with all the expensive apparatus incident thereto,
adapted to the use of lead battorioes. “ur position is to induce our customers to
use our battery system instead of ea trolley system, but with us the question of the
lead batteries never onters into consideration, as in the eutomobile business.
Consequently, if you will reconsider the matter and try to put yourself
in the position of the buyer, you will appreciate perheps how important it is
not necessarily to guarantee anything, but to have some reasonable hope that at
the expiration of three years, or any other short period of time, tho battery will
not fail.
4s a matter of fact it is true, or at any rate we believe it is trne, that
if the battery did fell dowm at the end of three years , and the ovmers was com—
yelled to buy a new battery, his battery car would still be cheaper than the trolley,
but if wo present our case to the prospective buyer, with this condition of affairs
confronting him, we would doubtless find it difficult or impossible to interest
hin.
I have ondeavored in all of our correspondence » Of which there is a very ox-
tensive amount, to convey the exact truth, and I believe that my letter to Minehan
& Mats conveys only the truth.
On the point of overcharging, I state on page 3 of the letter to Minehan &
Son that the mattery may be overcharged to any reasonable extent without injury.
Is not this true? I have always understood that this was the real point of the
battery.
On the point of short charges, Mr Holland told me that the battery would take
for short periods of time charges at eight to ten times the normal rate. I isd
@ letter from My Edison, under date August 4th, in which he objects to this and
says that if we state the battery may be charged at four or five times -the -
normal rate,and the life of the battery, under proper conditions » Will be five
years, it will be all right. Woe will hereafter change our correspondence to sonform
to My Edison's lettor.
Of course you understund that in dealing with a thing of this character, tha
exact life of which is not known, it is extremely difficult to say just the right
thing. Of cow'se we are anxious to sell the batteries, and yet we do not want
to misstate the facts; unfortunately, however, we do not Imow what the facts
are. We are really compelled to say something. If we say too little it is worse
than saying nothing, and we are invariably asked how long will the batteries
probably last.
How would it do to get together and talk this thing over and determing upon
@ statement which we can use in ow correspondence in the future; something that
will meet with Myr Edison's aprroval and at the same time give us a fair show?
Will you kindly discuss the subject with Mr Edison, and I will come out
1”
Yours very truly, pH ren M
one dey this week.
August $, 1910.
R. H. Beach, Hsq.,
Hudson Termine] Building,
Tow York: City.
Dear Sir:
Your favor of the Sth incte to Mr. Dyer hes beon
received, end T note thet it is your intention to come
out to Orenge one dey this week. Mr. Dyor is avay
at the present tine but will be nero Hriday and Saturday
Tor specific business. He will no dowbt be hero 2 part
at least of next week, but it might be well to telephone
before coming out so that he will be hore to gO into
the neatter with you.
Yours very truly,
IW Private Secretary.
MINEHAN & SON,
CIVIL ENGINEERS AND AUTHORISED
SURVEYORS.
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PETER MINEHAN, C.E.,
LATE DISTRICT ENGINEER
GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY, Q.
n ~=ENGINEER AYR TRAMWAY,
JOHN MINEHAN, AS,
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SPECIALTY: RAILWAYS AND TRAMWAYS,
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Federal Storage Battery Car Co., 1779 Hudson Terminal, (vew York City,
Form 1000-5 M—2-10
Atlantic City and’ Shore Railroad Company
OFFICE OF GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT =
§ SOUTH VIRGINIA AVENUE
J. N. AKARMAN
.GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT
ATLANTIC CITY, N. J.,
October 15th, 1910.
Federal Storage Battery Car Co.,
i779 Hudson Terminal, New York, N. Y.
Gentlemen:
We have had charge of the operation of the Edison-Beach
Storage Battery Car during the Convention of the American Street
& Interurban Railway Association here this week, and today between
1 and 5 P. M., in operating on South Carolina Avenue, between the
Boardwalk and Atlantic Avenue, with this car we obtained the
following data: : ; :
Number of CPAP, ccc ce cence cee cence cccveccccececs 36
Total Mileage, ..ceececcccecccccucncuccecstccecece 14.4
Total Kilowatt Hours, current CONSUME, cere eeseee 5
Total number of STOPS, cece eccccccerccccccccccsece 93
Total number Of PASBENGETS, sere ccsececceccucc es 5266
Average number of Passengers per car mile,.ec.secs 18
Average number of stops per car M1l€,..sereeeseee 6 plus
Average consumption of current per car mile ;
Kilowatt HOULB, cocccccccccccscccccccccecssececece 0.347
Average consumption of current per ton mile,
Watt HOULB, cece cee esc ccc cr ec cctccscccecccececes 5402
Average speed, including all intermediate and
terminal stops, MPH oe ib 08s Sev cedasacvoessee acces. (9
Recording Instruments used: G.E.Type C Watt-meter,No. 37599,
: Weston Ammeter and Weston: Voltmeter.
LL J: Hea Conductor
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The above statement is correct. The length of track between
Boardwalk and Atlantic Ave. on So. Carolina Ave., is 4/10 miles.
Mirllivste f Supervisor of
Came Tracks and Lines. ‘
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I approve of the above statements as being correct, and
assert furthermore that the car referred to was operated at all \-
times while on our lines without the least difficulty; its accel-
eration and performance generally was perfect, and I wish to con-
gratulate you on the production of such a splendid and adaptable f°
car. :
Yours ve tyn1 aks
General Superintendent .
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ESTINATED CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATING COS''S
BEACH BATTERY CAR SYSTEM COMPARED WITH TROLLEY SYSTEM,
Forty-First Annual Report
of (1909) the
BOARD OF RAILROAD COMMISSIONERS
of the
STATE OF MASSACHUSEITS, U. 5. A.
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Compiled from the returns of all electric railways in the State of Massachusetts, for 1909.
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Total Car Miles... .......... . 117,493,499, all cars, 1 year
Total Number of Passenger Cars... . . 7,546, " " "operated,
Average Number of Car Miles per Car , . 15,570, per annum,
(1) Average Number of Car Miles per Car | é 42.65 per day
Total Passenger Carried .....,.. . 624,532,753, all cars, 1 year
Total Main Track operated, ........ . 2,764.7 miles
Total Earnings, from Operation... ...., .....§ 81,956,006.18
Gross Income, including Mails, Rents, Miscellaneous, ete 33, 657,477.58
Gross Liabilities... .. ke et et te eee eo 171,935,126.85
Capital Stock... .... eee -.. 80,728,880.00
(3) Assets, Construction. ....., ».. 85,259,319.97 -
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3) Assets, Equipment... . 29,746 ,083.86
Assets, Land & Buildings 39,767 ,275.05
Assets, Gross... .... ete eee = 177, 745,987.90
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OPERATING COSTS
OF ALL ROADS IN THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS (IF THEY HAD BEEN EQUIPPED WITH &
DURING THE YEAR, 1909 (Trolley Roads (FOR BEACH-EDISON CARS & BATTERIES
AccouN tT GROSS EXPENS faeee EXPENSE. (GROSS EXPENSE
PER CAR MILE (PER CAR MILE
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Salaries, Officers & Cierks , 622,503 0.00527
Office Expense & Supplies , , 157,342 .00133
Legal Expense ,.,.,..ee¢. 421,784 00359
Insurance.,......00 004 301,243 - 00255
Other General Expense ..., 435,610 00371
Repair Roadbed & Track... , 999,748 -00851
Repair Overhead Lines ...., tate tatetated Slatted
Repair Bulldings ...,...., «00201
Repair of Cars.,....... 600551
Repair Elect. Car Equipment , 00449
Repair Miscellaneous Equipment 00074
Provender and Stabling. ... annwen
Cost of Elect. Motive Power, 00586
Wages of Employees ..,.... 06016
Removing Snow & Ice....., 00097
Damages for Injuries... .. 200916
Tolls for Trackage Rights, , ? 00107
Rents of Buildings, etc... . ’ ~00122
"'fotal Orapirine BeBe 761,879 ~06649 761,789 -00649
TOTAL 0 1 NSE. .{ $20,915,716 $0. 17801 14,409,593 0.1226
Economy of Beach System. . y ' #14, 2 ri) sues
Economy of Beach System Percent 104
5% Interest on $115,000,000 Cost eae
of Constr.& Equip., Trolley Roads 5,750,000 $0.04895
Ditto. on $80,500,000, Cost of
Const, & Equip. if Beach System $ 4,025,000 $0.03427
Estimated Depreciation at 8% 9,209,000 0.07831 6,440,000 0.05481
TOTAL FIXED CHARGES. . , $35,865,716 $0.30527 $24,874,593 $0. 21172
Economy of Beach System. 10,992,125 -09355
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The Operating Costs itemized above for the Beach System are estimated, as nearly
as possible in accordance with experience in regular operation of that system, for a long
period of time, on the 28th and 29th Streets Crosstown R. R., New York City, with due allow-
ance for the conditions of track, traffic and service generally as between the New York City
conditions and the conditions of all roads, urban and interurban, in Uassachusetts, and liberal
allowance is also made, in the instance of the Beach Battery Car, for such possible depreciation
maintenance, etc., of the Storage Batteries (Edison) as would by any contingency be required.
BEACH SYSTEM-FIRST COST
By the use of Beach Battery Cars, equipped with Edison Batteries, on the electric raile
ways included in the above, it would have been possible to eliminate all overhead construc~
tion, feeder distribution, high tension feeder distribution, substations, and other trolley
accessories, such as tools, emergency wagons, ete., rail bonding and rail bonding accessories
and equipment, and to have installed and equipped the roads at much lower expense, on account
of Beach Battery Cars being lighter and using less power and also b
make it possible to get a power house factor of at least 90%,
ecause Beach Battery Cars
; (as against not better than 50%,
with trolley cars), so that the Yirst cost would have been at least 30% less than the $115,-
000,000 (see items 1 and 3 above) of the above electric roads.
would be as follows:-
COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT PER MILE (For a 20 Mile Road)
TROLLEY SYSTEM
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70 lb.Rail, 125 tons,@ $35 per ton § 4370
Joints & Platesscercccsssevsececes 440
Ties, at GOP. cceccccccccsesssecee 1590
Track laying. cccsscccscsesesecccee 600
Ballasting. cccsovsccesessserececes 1500
Grading, Culverts, otCecccccssccce 1500
Special Work at Curves,Sidings,etc. 500
Line Construction, Feeder Dist.... 3000
High Tension Feed. Dist. Rail Bond 1500
1 Car per Mile, Average..c.sssecee 3500
Power Plant & Power Equipment,1 mile 3000
Car Barns, Substa. & Other Bldgs.. 1000
Substa. Equipment & Miscellaneous.
Equipment incident to Trolley..... 1500
Estimated Cost, Mile of Track,.... $24000
- PER MILE OF ROAD ~
BEACH SYSTEM
Ordinarily the first cost
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56 lb. (40 1b. would suffice) Rail 88 tons 3 3080
Joints & Platec..sccsccconsecercevccsecce
Tlos, at 50g... -ccccccccn-ccsccccvcccene
Track Laying, (No Rail Bonding)...eeseee-
BEL LOSING. i500 'eiersieieie 0:6 Ke-as 0 se 6 bares Sec eis
Grading, Culverts, OtCrsccccccsccsccsccens
Special Work at Curves, Sidings, etc.....
1 Car por Mile, Avorage...cscccsceccceees
Power Plant & Power Equipment, 1 mile....
Car Barnd.cerccccrcscccccsecccscccceveces
Switchboards, & Other small appsratus for
Charging Beach Battery Oars....ccsecsceee
308
1225
500
1200
1200
500
6500
1500
500
500
Estimated Cost, Mile of Track...scesseses $1519
Difference in Constr. & Equip. Cost in favor of Beach Battery Car System, less.....
Percentage of Economy of Const. & Equipment Cost, In favor of Beach Battery Car Syst,
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7487
314
However, neither in the estimate of Construction & Equipment Cost, nor in the state-
ment of Operating Expense, may the figures given be considered as applicable to every specif~
ic electric railway; they are only approximate and a faithful representation of comparative
costs in the specific cases referred to herein.
In many instances the first cost with Beach System, would be much lower then herein
specified, governed largely by conditions, as to whether the road is through rough country
or through city streets, whether requiring paving or not, whether with many grades and fills
or through level country, whether with many curves or long tangents, whether for fast and
frequent service or slow and infrequent service, etc., etc.
In many instances, also, the operating expense with Beach System, would be much lower
than herein specified, governed largely by conditions of track, tratfic, schedules, speed,
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speed, stops per mile, grades, length of grades, etc., whether batteries might be given 10
to 30 minute intermediate charges or boosts occasionally during the day, and furthermore by
the location of power plant, cost of fuel, etc., but the amounts given are as characteristic,
in a general and approximate way only, as may be computed to cover the general situation.
With the Beach System, since there is no trolley requiring attention, it is quite
practical and desirable in cities up to 40,000 or 50,000 population or where traffic is not
dense, by installing a pay-as-you-enter arrangement with fare box (and change making machine
if needed), to eliminate the conductor, allowing motorman to supervise fare collections.
The conductor's wages amount to about 344 cents per var mile, the elimination of which means a
further reduction in the operating expenses. This is recommended in operation of Beach Cars
under the traffic conditions referred to. It is not practical, however in trolley car or
gasoline car operation, as the conductor is required to attend to the trolley in the former
case and the motorman is required to give all of his time, sometime calling on the conductor
for assistance, in the latter case.
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY,
1779 Hudson Terminal, New York City.
Checked by: Compiled by:
Approved:
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EDISON~BEACH STORAGE BATTERY CAR,
This car is of new design from the wheels to the roof
inclusive,
For the same reason that fat and the weight thereof is
of no service to the athlets, the Edison-Beach Storage Battery Car
eliminates all unnecessary weight by the very best of materials and
design and accomplishes the same result as far as longevity and
practical utility is concerned, as the standard double truck trolley
or under=-@round contact dar.
In the first place the car is light, yet fully as strong
as if it weighed ten times as much, as far as practical demands are :
concerned.
2. The unnecessary consumption of power on cars
obtaining with the solid axle car, is eliminated. Naturally when .
‘two wheels are joined together rigidly, on the same axle and the
car is forced around a curve, the outside wheel travels a great deal
further than the inside wheel. Therefore, the inside wheel must
slip and grind against the inside rail with consequent enormous
consumption: of power and wear of wheel and rail. With the Edison-
“Beach Car each wheel is as independent as are the wheels of automo~
biles, turning independently on the same axle and each wheel is
driven by its own motor.
ae The wheels are mounted on roller bearings, thereby elimin~
ating bearing friction.
5. Silent chains are used to transmit the power
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from the motors to the wheels, with consequent quiet running and
the absence of all gear noises se common on trolley cars.
4, he car seats 45 and will hold 100 persons. On
each side there are two longitudinal seats, the same as obtains on
the McAdoo tunnel cars. Under the seats the Edison Storage Batter~
jes are placed ~ 180 in all, and of the A~8 type. <A separate set
of batteries supplies current for the lights, and these are also
located under the seate.
5. The car will travel 85 miles per charge on the
basis of stopping ton times per mile, letting off and taking on
passengers. If allowed to run without stops, it would probably
run 125 miles.
The scheduled speed is 19 miles per hour, but the car
has reached a speed of 35 miles per hour on a long, straight level
track.
There are four motors, each of which is rated at 5 horse
power, or 20 horse power in all.
The oar weighs about 9 tons, and accelerates one mile per
hour per second; that is, at the end of the first second after
starting, she is travelling at one mile per hour, at the end of the
second two miles per hour, at the end of the third three miles per
hour etc. until fully accelerated.
The oar consumes one-fifth the electricity per car mile
that the ordinary trolley car consumes and can be operated on the
Spur lines of railroada at one-eighth the cost of operating a spur
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line train consisting of locomotive and one or rore cars,
There are put two men necessary; the motorman and the con-
ductor, the latter acting as flagman when necessary.
The yentilators are of new design, placed in the roof of
the gar, and ‘take out the bad air and replenish it with fresh air
without subjecting the passengers to any draft. Hence the air in
the car is always fresh.
The most improved type of yestibules are on each end of
the body, and pay as you enter arrangement can be installed without
difficulty,
The car ig equipped with a KlLaxon Warning Sienal on each
end, operated by the same batteries that run the motors. They were
specially designed for this work, and can be heard as far ahead as
the steam whistle of a locomotive. A button with removable Plunger,
Placed accessible to the foot of the motorman operates the Klaxon.
Mr, Edison and Mr, Beach selected the Klaxon for this work, because
of the remandous success it has met with for use on automobiles, and \
with which the automobiles of iir. Edison and Mr. Beach have been
squipped for some time.
in short, this car is the result of the development in i
automobiles. It utilizes the roller bearing in the wheels, 16 oper-
ated by Edison Storage Batteries which were primarily designed for :
operating automobiles, for which purpose thousands are being sod.
It is also equipped with the Klexon Warning Signal whieh is univer-
Bally considered the beat automobile warning signal in. existence.
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So great have been the refinements in eliminating frictior
and weight, that whereas the battery equipment in this car will drive
it for 85 miles, the same battery in a clumsy, unnecessarily havy
trolley car would not drive it ten miles. So it is not the battery
nor car alone, but each is as great an invention as the other.
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October 21, 1910,
Mr. R, H, Beach,
Hudson Torminal Building,
Hew York, U.Y.
My dear Mr. Beach:-
In accordence with my promise I
braught up with Nr, Edison tho other day the possibility
of allowing you a discount on Edison batteries. Mr,
Edison rominded me that under his errangoment with you
he is giving you very substantial protection and has
refused to supply batteries with other types of railway
ears, In view.of this fact, ho does not feel that any
concessions should. ve. made in the way: of discounts.
Regering your question whe thor. there would
be .any odjection to our Legal: Departiient doing your pa~
tent work, I. also discussed thig with Mr, Edison and we
“have agreed thet this can ‘de. aone and you: will ‘be.
chargea. for tha work. ‘at ‘the samo rate ‘that you would
have to. pey ‘in: New, York. tT ‘think the work: wild be- ate
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We have been referred vee ‘you as Federal Storage ee, Co.
of £50 Church St. New York, who have been placing some. orders with ig a
being desirous of continuing to receive their patronage, we have asked/them
for the usual trade references. We would appreciate; in confidence, Any ine
formation that. you my be able to give us regarding. their financial“responsi-
bility, and the manner in which they have been taking..care, of: r oe
Yours very truly, y ee a e eat AWes En0C,
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My dear Mr. Edison: V
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I have received through Mr. Miller, oat
Secretary, the letter of introduction to Mr. Samuel Insull,
President of the Commonwealth-Edison Company, for which kindly
accept my tiavika. I will try to connect with Mr. Insull during
this present week, and see how his "litter of pigs" is getting
along. ,
No doubt, Mr. Beach has already told you that I have
completed an arrangement with the Chicago Railways Company, Mr.
John M. Roach, President, to place on one of his lines, to be
selocted by his Chief Engineer, a single truck and a double
truck car for demonstration purposes. Mr. Roach is deeply inter-
ested in the car and wanted to know if Mr. Edison really thought
his battery would operate a street car. Mr. Roach has a place
somewhere in Florida and says he has seen you there many times,
and that you may remember him. Mr. Roach commenced as a telegrapher
ahd says he has always very much admired your genius and persistency.
We Sect that shortly after the demonstration has been
iseeneentiy: made in this ante? we shall have no difficulty in
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selling a large number of these cars to the street railways in
this territory. The principal inquiry for the cars is from the
interurban roads, dozens of which are now ‘in process of promotion,
and financing, and all of them want an independent motor car of
somewhat larger type than our present double truck car. The steam
roads hereabouts have many short branch lines where they wish to
operate an independent motor car with a compartment for baggage
and express. The writer is of the opinion that your storage
battery, with the improvements which you already have in view to
lighten its weight, is going to revolutionize the transporation
business; and that history will record this as your greatest
achievement for the benefit of humanity.
In a general way, I may say that we are having a great
many inquiries from different sourcea concerning your storage
battery. It looks as if we were going to be able to do a good
business.here, and we are getting organized to take care of it.
At this time, the principal inquiry is with regard to the B-4
lighting sets. Our first business of importance will be with
these batteries, and we hope the factory will be able to fill
our orders promptly. We have already placed orders with Mr.Bee
for 27-sets B~4 batteries. We are going after the taxicab and
automobile livery companies, with the view of having them adopt
our lighting battery in place of the Prestolyte, and other systems
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We shall be greatly pleased to welcome you in Chicago,
and would like to have you make our office your business home,
while here.
Thanking you for your kindness and courtesy, which is
much appreciated, we are,
Yours very truly, :
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Messrs. Minchan & Son,
Townsville,
Cueensland, Australia,
Gentlemen: -
Replying to yours of the 15th ult.
would say that we cannot appoint you the agents
for the Edison Storage Battery, heving previously
appointed tho HW. B. Limited of Sydney, to intro-—
duce and exploit the battery in Australia, Vo
have notifiod them of the priviloges accorded you
through your connection with the Federal Storage
Battery Car Company, I would suggest that you
get in touch with the 5.3. limited, and form some
arrangement by which you oan cooperate to mimal”
advantage.
Yours very truly,
CC/ ARK, a Vice-President.
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the gasolene-electric type of tranSmission. t I ate At retur ae
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the "States" in about two weeks, Me & ES a long rest made necessary by
111 health, and being anxious, and now Pit, to take up a good stren=
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uous job, and as the above line of work is that in
the most experience and am most interested, it cours. to
it is the intention of your company to interest its
this branch of railway work my experience may be of con#iderable use ;
to you. It was not so much my intention, however, in writing this
letter, of submitting an application for a position, but it is written
rather, with a view of finding out, if possible, whether it is your
intention to engage in this class of work and, in that case, of its
leading up to an interview with you on my return. I will refrain from
going into my record and experience, therefore, excepting a few re=
marks which will serve as a partial identification, for I had the
pleasure of being introduced to you about three years ago, and it is
for that reason that I have written to personally instead of to your
Thomas A, Edison, Isq. 2s
General Manager, whom I have never met. You may recall the occasion
when, togrther with ir. Berrien, of the Firestone Tire Co., and Mr,
Palmer, Seoy, and Treas, of the New York Transportion, we were shown
through the battery plant, and afterwards had a very pleasant conver-
sation with you, when we discussed motor cab and omnibus operation at
some length, At that time the writer was Engineer and Gen, Supte of
the N. Y. Transportation Co, and of several affiliated companies, in»
Gluding the 5th Ave. Coach Co., of which I was also a director, You
may possibly have been told by Mr. Bee, at the time, of my being, to
& considerable extent, instrumental in the establishment of the motor
omnibus service on 5th Ave. where its introduction converted the old,
almost moribund company into a profitable proposition. You may also
. have heard of the very successful performance of the ten gasolene=
electric machines which have been running for three years on the
service, and which were designed by myself and built under my Supere
vision, While these do not embody my ideas of an ideal, or egen an
up to date system, they have conclusively demonstrated their super«
lority over the gear driven busses in durability, ease of handling,
economy of maintainance, percentage of working days, accelerafion eto,
although the latter machines (of DeDion manufacture) are still the
best examples of the gear driven type.
I fully recognize (what some engineers, aparently, do not)
that the field for electric transmission (for self contained units>
is in light railway work, where the circumstances of operation are
Such that ordinary electric installation (overhead or third rail)
would not pay, and where steam trains are too heavy for the traffic
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requirments.For example, I might mention the(so called) Rapid Transit
on Staten Island, where I have seen two car trains with a crew of
five men, and about as many passengers, There are numerous other lo»
ealities which are now served, indifferently, by suburban trains, and
where the traffic requirments would not justify electrification, but
where light, high speed, self contained cars would be ideal on account
of their economy of operation, low first cost, quicker Service, more
elastic response to traffic fluctuations, and the fact that they can
be made to replace steam trains gradually and without any confusions
There are doubtless many railway companies which would be glad to try
out one, or a number of self contained cars in an experimental way,
were Such cars available, wheras it would be out of the question for
them to consider any experimental installation of overhead or third
rall equipment. I am sure that all these consideragions, and probably
many others, have been studied by you, and I merely refer to them in
order to indicate, roughly, wh&t my ideaw are of the future devellope=
ments of this branch of engineering, and along which lines I am anxious
to follow itg I should be very glad indeed to talk with you on the
Subject, and if this feeling is reciprocated, even in a lesser degree,
I shall be pleased to run out to Orange Soon after my return, and be~
fore I go out to Cleveland, where I shall have to go Shortly. In that
case, perhaps you may be good enough to drop me a line at the Engineers
Club, New York. Hoping very much to have the pleasure of renewing our
acquaintance, I remain
Respectfully yours, 2 he "a QL, ,
P, S. I recall one topic of my conversation with you, which prompts
me to say that I am not a "slide rule" engineer, —
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FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY
MANUFACTURERS OF
BEACH CARS of
EQUIPPED WITH (; (ey
EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES o
1779 HUDSON TERMINAL uf
50 CHURCH STREET Leal
“PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT Gs
NEW YORK CITY Nov. 15, 1o1ff. (“ oh Vv
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r. Thomas A. Edison, NA “ie \t a Rad : tk a F
Edison Storage Battery Co., LY’ Wrage, 7 ON Ee A
GRANGE, bed. wKS fe Pace b
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wy dear iir. lwdison:
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XL enclose herewith copy of a letter which I have sont to
stuart, Yice-President of the Erie Railroad. AK A
Kindly note that we are endeavorins to get up a party Ls cf
nphty
officials to visit Cranro on Saturday afternoon of this weok. ate
will include the following gentlemen: re
Xr. F,. D. Underwood, Prest. of the Erie Railroad, vt € “fieoae
i J.C. Stuart, V.P. e ao}
" FP, EE. Haff, soey.
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m Ralph Peters, Prest. of the Long Island aaa Oa md
tt it ‘A
" J. 3. Ferguson, 49 Yall St.,N.¥.City. b
We hope to be successful in having 211 of these gentlemen ro to
Orange on Gaturday afternoon, and it would give all of them great pleasure
to meet you. Please try and make your arrangements to be with us about
Yours very truly,
W/UB IAVYE. eh —
COPY
New York, Hov. 16, 1910.
hr. J. C. Stuart,
Vice-Prosident
ri: Railroad,
NEV YORN CLrly.
iy dear ir. Stuart:
kr. Wheatly tells me that during his conversation with you this
morning it was proposed that you and ir. Underwood should visit the Forest
Hills Branch on Saturday afternoon of this week and witness a test of
our storase battery car. toam writing to confirm iir, Wheatly's invi-
tation to you and to Mr. Undorwood, and also to say that wo have asked
- Ralph Peters, Prosident, and Ur. F. li, Haff, Secretary of the Long
Island RR, to witnsoss tho test on Saturday afternoon.
fam informing ir. Edison of this arrangement, and hope that
nothing will interfere with your plans. Either tr. Wheatly or myself
will call upon you Saturday morning to ascertain dofinitoly concerning it.
Yours very truly
PEDERAL STORAGE BATTMRY CAR COMPANY.
(Ge CCDS
President.
Be a, Ta temeh,
ALL AGREEMENTS ARE CONTINGENT UPON STRIKES, ACCIDENTS, DELAYS OF CARRIERS, AND OTHER CAUSES BEYOND OUR CONTROL.
CABLE AODRESS:"DIEHL-ELIZABETH” CODES USED: LIEBER'S, A.B.C-V. EDITION, A.1.AND PRIVATE.
BURNETT C.KENYON, President.
PHILIP DIEHL, Vice President.
HERBERT S.MILLER, Secretary,
JOHN A. REID. Treasurer.
Diehl Manufacturing Company
MANUFACTURERS OF
SHOW ROOMS:
NEW YORK, 90 Prince St.
BOSTON, 128-132 Essex Street.
PHILADELPHIA, 1305 Race St.
CHICAGO, 207-211 Edackson Boulevard.
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financial standing of the Federal Storage Battery a uA v\
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Car Company, New York City. Will you please let us
know your experionce with this Company and theirw** ; ie ere
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financial standing and whether you ccnsider them: tae ae St
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1779 HUDSON TERMINAL
5OQ GHURCH STREET
"PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
NEW YORK CITY Nov. 22, 19 Ge. C eel
le. Thomas A. Edison,
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udison Storase Battery Co., (2 ebo~ al +
ORANGE, MJ. ee wee?
Ny dear Ur, 8dison:
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Just a word, to let you know whet we have accomplished, and what We
have not accomplished in this double truck car. I feel that we have m
a distinct advance in current economy per ton mile, but I am for from bei
satisfied with our weipht. The woirht of the car complote is in round
bers 30,000 lbs. The weight of the single truck car is 10,000 lbs, The
seating capacity of the single truck car ia 26, and the weirht per passenror
about 350 lbs. Vie have increased the weight in the double truck car
20,G0C Lbs. and gained soating capacity for only 14 people, or about 1790
lbs, per passenrcer for the inercsased seatins capecity. This scems to me
altogether wrong. of course there are new probloms involved in the con-
struction of a double truck car. I think it is quite possible that we will
never bo able to get quite the weight per passenger in a doublo truck car as
in a sinsle truck car, but we certainly oufht to be able to do a sreat deal
better than we have done in this matter of dead weisht, particularly in the
body. The weights are distributed approximately as follows: Trucks and
notors 11,000 lbs., batteries 5,000 lbs., Body 14,000 lhs.
We can take about 2000 lbs. off the trucks, nearly all of this out of
the wheels, I am satisfied that we can reduce it by changing the design
of the body, at loast 4000 lbs., maybe more. The reduction in the weight of
the battery would be considerable, but I cannot say just how much, but
should think at least 1500 lbs.
I have already begun work on the new design of the body, and will push
it as rapidly as possible. The general design of the truck seems to be
good. The only place to look for lighter woight is in the wheels. On the
wholo, I think we ought to feel pleased with rosults as fan as we have gone,
particularly of our vory low current consumption, which is about 40 watts
while maintaining an average of about 22 miles an hour. ‘The car reaches a
maximum of 30 miles an hour. On an upgrade of 2% its maximum speed is 16
miles an hour,
I enclose you herewith a detanled report of the test run made on Sun-
day last.
Yours truly, xe
al Hare
B/HB
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[ENCLOSURE]
— Lbs
aot grerte a, ; weer VET, TT MOET peng el il Mee metry
Sunday, November 20, 1910,
Trip Car lio. 101 from Wont Orenge to Forost Hills,
r ; and from Forost lillls to Uonteleir eights and ro-
turn,
Total distonco 16.2 ilos
Total power consumption 106 &lupere hours,
Ampore Ampere
Time Voltere hours Stations hours Volta:o Timo
LLsOf Az, 0 Vost Orange ete es
t.iLloes
11333 "" 120 2 Forost hills 10 L22 5.09 Pg,
09 2,
110 30 Soho Parl: 5 195 os06 " ft
0G SH, S300 "# "
110 a4 Orchard ist.
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166 5c Bloonfield 5 105 2367 "8
ston,
200 47 Glen Ridse 5 125 2365 0 u
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98 6a Montclair 5 125 2:62 0
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- 98 76 Parl: Streot
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95 36 Uppor Nonteleir BeS/4 1pd a:46 "om
11:47 Aw, 108 92 Mountein Avenue 3 106 R345 "8
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ll:49 "0" 118 96 sontclair Hoights ia) 123 2:40 " 0
ee
sunday, Novenbor 2, 1910,
Trip Car No. 101 from Forust illis to crosnovor cast of
Hlackonsack Rivor iurldze and return to Forest Hills,
thence from Forest lillls to Wost Orange.
Total distance 15.8 “Lies
foteal power consumntion 90 ampere hours.
Tine Voltaro Aup,lirs, Stations Amp.lirs. Voltare Tine
EPR OG RERUN Vest Oranse 100 Lis 4:05 P.i.
Bxkerrtksdt
Buztithictt Kane kxhetiw S360 Pvt
5.09 Pon. 122 10 Forest Wills 7c 116 S345 " 0
3:19 "9 123 lo Mevariz S0 93 oar tt
3315 "8 120 15 Vest Arlinzton 86 3338 "4
S317 "0 18 Arlinston 85 agp wou
S325 7 " 108 a7~1/2 Crossover East
Hackensack River 27-1/2 123 S:a7 "0
Distenee Forest Ilills to Crossover
East Uackensack River, 4.8 Niles, ae
renee,
Figuring average voltase at 95 and total ampere hours at 196 the
watt hours aro 18620 which for 29.8 milos Gives 625 watt hours per car
milo, or 43 watt hours por ton mile. Naximun speed 26 to 50 miles por
hour down grade 2% -= speed on level track 18 to 23 milen per hour, speed
going up 2% grade 14 to 16 milos por hour,
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i am abt worl on the bus and will cot it just ily an pOkivis
Loam doins:
would not let Lansdon know that I am doins this, \. + Ho not 1
him feel that I am butting in on hig design. I may never bt:
prove it, but thro is no harm trying.
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FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY
Se OSA E_ RATTERT UU GCAR COMPANY
MANUFACTURERS OF
BEACH CARS
EQUIPPED WITH
EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES
1779 HUOSON TERMINAL
SO GHURCH STREET
‘PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
NEW YORK city Dec, 12, 1910.
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[ENCLOSURE]
Ewiso0on STORAGE Barriry Co.
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY Car Co.
MS Cormick Bullding - 193 Michigan Avenue
William Walter Wheatly Cmr1caco Telephone
Lucien Wheatly Harrison 70
December 7, 1910.
209/General.
Mr. R. H. Beach,
New York City.
Dear Mr. Beach?
Several days ago, Mr. F. “. Harvey, Western
Sales Agent of the Electric Omnibus & Truck Company, of which
Mr. C. J. Ficld is president and general manager, called at
this office ané left with us a lot of literature,
Mr. Harvey informed us that he had taken an order fron
one of the large business houses in this city for ten omnibuses
equipped with Edison Storage Batteries. Wher I asked him what
firm it was that he had sold thom to, he replied that the nome
of the firm was at prosent a secret and could not be divulged.
He informed me that Mr. Field was now building the ten omnibuses
in his Company's works at Pasaic, New Jersey, and that Mr. Field's
New York office was at 135 Broadway,
Mr. Harvey stated that Mr. Field has made great inprove-
ment in the omnibus since he made the first one, which is now
standing in the yard at Orange, New Jersey, of the Storage Battery
Works.
‘ “Mr. Harvey appears to be pretty active in and around
Ohicago, and is telling everybody around here that his Company
is the only one which can offer electric omibuses equipped with
Edison Storage Batteries, All of the success which he appears
[ENCLOSURE]
:
to be having in getting people interested is due to his statement
that his busses are equipped with Edison Storage Batteries.
I am sending you all of this information because of
what you told me when I was in New York concerning tho attitude
of Mr. Edison towards this business. You may, if you desire,
show this letter to him.
Yours very truly,
WWW=L
Batt. SA ’
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR auoene
MANUFACTURERS OF
BEACH CARS va
EQUIPPED WITH re
EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES : oh é
fe ee 7 ay
1779 HUOSON TERMINAL o A:
SO CHURCH STREET , ah?
“PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT Q a ea
NEW YORK CITY ge a 19160 £ re,
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ir. Frank L. Dyer, ute ¢! f
Viee Prost, & Genl. Couns sel, ue i
Edison Storare Battery See Co., al oe
ORANGE, Hd. N Pd
Ny dear Dyer: w
inclosed you will please Pind a letter addressed to us by the
ren Bene Gross Co, I believe these people are a large exporting house
The man who signed this letter seoms to be a very clear-headed person.
He has been here and offered to buy 2 car at once and ship it to Moxico
end uso it for demonstration purposes provided we will give him the
agency Por that country.
He would also like to have the agency for the pattery and the
Lensden truck and carriare. i think they have money ed are disposed
to spend some of it in this direction.
He also wants the asency for Cuba, Puerto Rico and Italy.
T an reforring the matter to you for your decision in rescard to
the battories. xindly lat him know, and please retvrn the lotter to us.
Yours truly,
FEDERAL STORAGS BATTERY CAR COMPANY.
SM Lea eh
B/HB Pretidont.
EC ee
Daxtin, { S/ ou
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\\ Dec. 22, 1910.
Mr. Re. H. Beach,
Hudson Torminal Building,
Now York City.
Dear ir. Beach:
Yours of the 15th inct. was duly received, en-
cloning letter fvom the Ignetius Gross Co., and upon referr-
ing the matter to Mr. Edison he states that he does not want
to tic up with enybody at prosent as he is not ready to do
80. I suggest, therefore, thet the cntire matter bo deferred
until later.
In accordance with your. request, I return the let-
ter from these paople herewith.
Yours vory truly,
PLID/TWw Vice-Prosident. ; é
Ene-
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Cert ST.
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY
MANUFACTURERS OF
BEACH CARS
EQUIPPED WITH
EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES
1910,
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ea 1779 HUDSON TERMINAL
BO CHURCH STREET
io "PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
NEW YORK CiTyY Dec. £5,
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Gross
ay, Frank LL. Dyer,
V-T. & Geil. Counsel,
=dison Stovere Battery Co.,
Co-, I have notified ¥r
ORAL, Red.
Bear Mr, Dyer:
to the Isnatius Gross
os he seems anxious to sell cars, and
have told him that we would for
inasmuch
In rerard
a
as ve need the business very badly,
&8 promised to do.
of your decision, but
one yoar give nim the agency in l’exico for the cars provided he buys
onco, which he I
oo demonstration car a
£ Mo at
in regard to ©, Tennant & Sons Co., I will do nothing at pros:nt
on it, though thik we ought to get together on this agency problen,
I feel for the whole United States
which is a very troublosome one.
we ought not to have any agencies. A great many people como here
I did give VWheatly tho agency in Chicago for a
to nothing.
and want an arency.
year, but am now sorry that I did it, it really amounts
Any one who wants to buy these cars in this country must como
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here, or at least we must get persoally in touch with them.
a
car is so highly technical that it is practically impossible for an
to sit in
ms is
agent to properly talk it or present it because of the went of technical |
matter of fact it is very
and say
It all looks easy, but as
About tho only function an agent perfor
every tase
knowledge.
difficult.
5 ail
things that he does not understand,
so far has been that we have to fo and sce the people ourselves,
wit
!
some office in some remote city and talk about these cars
-oand the winding up of
Dorey Pafue be ites ae,
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whick we might just as well do in tho first Place, Again they all
vant an excessively high commission -- everybody wants 10%, Now,
you will remember pyar wO pay thoa- Battery Company tho list price for
tho battery, and whon we sell a car we have to pay a commission on the
list price, which has to bo charged against the small profit which we
cen make on tho car itselP, When we add this CcommisSion on the bat-
tery and the other items which enter into the cost of tho cer, it makes
our price excessive, so in view of the whole situetion I feel that we
ought not to have any agents in the United States.
We have now succeeded in getting three important friends to worl:
for us without any pay. The Pay-as-you-enter Car Company through their
agents throughout this country are advising their customers to use those
cars, The Brill Car Company, strange to Say, arc also advisine their
customers, and the General Electric Co. to quite an extent are ade
vising the use of these cars. This boing true, and it is true, it
seems to me that it is better for us to sit tight Just as we ore.
I will drop over in a fey days and have a talk with you,
Yours truly,
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR fees
one
B/UB . : President,
erty { St,
THOMAS A, EDISON FRANK L, DYER E. G. DODGE H. F. MELLER
President Vice-President and Gencral Counsel General Manager Seeretary-Treasurer
EDISON STORAGE BATTERY Co.
Telephone, 908 Orange 4k iA ORANGE, NEW JERSEY Dec. 27, 1910.
NG f
R. H. Beach, Esq.-,
Hudson Terminal Building,
New York City.
Dear Mr. Beach:
I hand you herewith a memorandum from Mr. Philips
accompanying commercial reports on Ignatius Gross, concerning whom
you wrote me a few days ago. Please return these reports to me
Enc-
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY
MANUFACTURERS OF
BEACH CARS
EQUIPPED WITH
TM AL EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES on”
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1770 HUDSON TERMINAL fis
"PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
feo ao aaohee, 5 5 Ce
(2 ar ’\ we ae
S60 CHURCH STREET 0
iodo not wart. to burden you with «© lorv 1dtteb, mat
thoush I oucht to make you a very brief renort of th 6
B ¥ £ ae
complished duri the past yoar, end rom this we San a a4
PCPY
as to what we may be able to accomplish in the coming yoer.
F
First 26th a eth We put tie car in service on the end
March, and up to a week aso Sunday it was in constant operation.
Tig car hes siven a vood account of itself; aside Prom worn brake
gshoos anda slirht difficulty of the brake rircrins it has onorated Tf
iid: poxfoctly. its watt consumption has run sbout 600 watt hours
por cor milo at thea motor brushes.
In October wo sot out the second onr of this type and size and
poduced the watt cornswaption to 647 watt hours por car mile. This
yas accomlished by a better motor and better alipmment of motor and
rear and vory much better brake rissing. i can see no opportunity
to improve this sinmle truck car, except i thi tho bearings should
be in the whools instead of 25 now constructed; there aro tyo advantages
in this, one it is cheaper, the other it enables us to reduce the
weit of tho axle by using forrcd I-boam sections instoad of the
round axles; it also eliminates the joint in the center of the
xle. We hare had no trouble from tho use of the joint , but most
12/30/10 -- TAT -- 2
people object to it on the ground thet it is one more movine thing.
We may be able to lighton the car body a little, but at the moment
I do not soe any place where we can reduce it very much, on the
whole, I think the single truck car is developed now so that it is
roally commercial.
You have perhaps observed in the papers sone commotion about the
use of Gould's batteries on 28th & 29th streets, The truth in regard
to this is; the Receiver of the 28th & 29th strect line has made tom-
porary arrangements with the Receiver of the Third Avenue line, under
which arrangement the Third Avenue R.R. supplies all equipment and oper-
atcs the road. The object in making this erranrement on the part of
the Receiver of the 28th & 29th street line is to find out whether or
not the traffic on this line was sufficiently large to warrant them in
equippins: it. The object on the part of the Third Avenue Xeceiver was
to find out the same thing in order to warrant him in purshasinre the
road. Ho question as to the relative merits of our car versus the
Gould car enters into the problem.
You know es well as I do, that when it comes to this matter of
solling cars eny permanently successful businoss must rest upon the
success of the car as a money earning thing; the pride and jealousy
of mon may for a timo prevent the use of any particular device, but if
the. devico is really meritorious, then it will be used. I am very
certain our device possesses merit, therofore it must come into use .
The principal advantage that I can see to us in this matter of
placing any battory cars on the 28th & 29th street line is thet it has
aroused wide-spread interest in the use of storage battery cars, to
such an extent it is true that the Chairman of the Bond Holders Commit-
tee of the Metropolitan Street Railway Company, Hr. Guy Tripp, who I i
12/50/10 -- TAH -- 3
have repeatedly urred to investivate our car, anc who has always
dismissod the svbject as unvorthy of serious consideration until
this week, when ho said to me " If the Third Avenue Road can seri-
ously consider usin; a load battery car then your car must be worthy
of serious consideration." I think we can look for some orders from
this road during the coming yoer. As to the Third Avenue Road, and
ites subsidiaries, I do not believe we can hope for any business from
them as lont as Er, Whitridge is in control of the road,
As to the Double truck car; I think we have clearly demon-
strated the adaptability of this double truck car for ordinary. slow
speed interurban service,and by a modification in its structure so
as to reduce the weight, which I now know I can do, can bring the
total weight with the presont battory capscity from 30,000 to 24,000
pounds, and at the samo timo incroase the strength of the truck. I
will not bo able to increase thaostrengthbf the body. I think it
is sefe to say that we have a much grester strength in the body than
wo require. By this chanre the car will be suitablo for street
gorvic® worl. As now mado it is not suitable because the weight is
too heavy to pormit the A/8 battery to carry it on tho grades; also
the price is too hich. We can hardly oxpect stroet railway mon to
pay the heavy cont of this car with a scaling capacity for 40 poople
when they can buy for one-half the price a car which will have a
seating, capacity for 30 people. We have the design very nearly
comploted for the modified form of this double truck car, which will
permit its use on ordinary interurban tracks. On spur line steam
railroad service such as the Urange branch of the Erig,the car is very
. see ce with
satisfactory as it is; I mean of courseathe
obvious modifications
which we already have under way.
12/50/10 -- TAM -- 4
Tho outlook for the comins year for the sale of a few of these
cers to steam railroads is very encouraging. It is impossible to
tell the number that we can sell, but I think to say thet we can
sell 25 or 30 of these cars is not an extravarant statement. ae
to sa
should say it would be a fair puess.that we should be able during
thBEYGEr to soll all told from 50 to 100 oars of both kinds.
In rerard to the seneral attitude of people towards the stor-
are battery car, I am very certain that it has improved very mich,
The press throurhout the country have given us splendid notices,
and the technical press which six months aro were highly critical
of our work, as wore also the ongincers generally, today commend us,
and I think I can safcly say compliment us on the results that we
have obtained.
There is a distinct tendency now on the pavt of car buildors
throurhout the country to follow the pace which wo have set in
light car construction. You probably have had no time to bother
with the technical press, but if you do you would sco that every
car builder in this country is now advocating light cars with arched
roof, which of course is a copy of what we have dono.
In the patent work om these cars your lerol dopartmont are pushing
it along as rapidly as possible, and there is very little to say on
There is one vory difficult problem in comection with the de-
velopment of this businoss which I have not solved, and I really do
not know how to solve it, and that is the question of agents. Nate
urally, we want to bo represented in different places. We tried with
lir. Wheatly to make a mutually satisfactory arrangement. Wheatly
‘
was an old railroad man, hed a good acquaintance, and seemed anxious
os tate thie » te 4 :
to teke up this work in Chicaro. He told mo that he was provided with.
capital to handle it and that he would open a proper office in Chi-~
caro and conduct the businoss in a businesslike Way. I find, how-
ever thet ho has not done it. He has not the technical knowlodse nec-
essary to arrue the merits of this kind of tractim work. It looks
very easy to the sverase engineor to &0 out and convinco a2 railroad
men of the merits of the ctorare battery, but in point of fact it is a
very difficult thing I think, aad most railway men would like to have
a stornre battery car, but when it comes to actually miving up the money.
end buyine them, they all sccm to feel that they want to try it on the
dos first, Wheatly wanted an imuacnse territory; = reluctantly fave
try to
it to hin. No sooner did he have it than he beran to.persuade us to
iet a factory in Chicaro manufacture these card. I belicve that it
‘is practically impossible for any factory to manufacture these cars.
It would be just about tho samo thing as to let the Chloride Accumulater
Company in Philadelphia rake your batterios, The business is peculiar, "
great care must be taken to seo that every Little thing in resrard to the
car is exactly rirht. AS ovidence of this fact iullaney copied our de-
Sign and uses a chain; he has now decided to abendon the use of chains
because he constantly bresks them. ‘Wo have never broken a chain in over
20,000 miles on the ©8th & 29th street line under yvory had conditions,
The reason is easy -- the alignment of our motors is correct, Mullaney
has done poor work and has not presorved the alignment of his pears and
pinions, and the rosult has been that the chain breaks very easily.
These silent chains are peculiar, somewhat like a pack of cards, if the
whole pack is held torether tightly it requires enormous power to tear
them, but if they are slipped a little so that only one card at a time
is offered for resistance then the whole pack tears easily; thet is
about the way it is with the chain. I speak of this to show you how
necessary it is thet the car in its entirety must‘be made by some one
who really knows how to do it, particularly in the beginning,
18/50/10 -- TAD -- 6
Another difficulty with this efency businoss is that they all
want too much monoy. This cer business is an oxXpensove business.
Brille who are tho laorrcest car builders in the world pay 1% to 2-1/°%
commission. Gur arents all demand 10% not only upon the car but
unon the battorion, Wheatly fools very badly hurt because vre do not
ay him a commission of 1¢3 on the battery in the car. Should wo do
this it would be cquivalent to our payinr $700 commission for selling
the car body and its oquipment -- manifostly impossible. 50, on the
whole, I think we would be really better of f without any agents,ond
while I would not want to say that this should be our definite policy
I feel very much inclined to the plan for the coming year, outside
perhaps of some foroirn countries, to fet out of this agoncy business
and deal direct with the reilroads. On the other hand, I camot see
that wo have accomplished so much in a commercial way, and people are
very slow to buy these cars, but I really foelytheat we havé\noy/rot-
ton our plan. under way and know what we want to make, that wo will as
time foes on mect with a very great success.
Z would be very g¢lad to be able to report to you that I had sold
100C cars, but i havo not, but I am goinr to keep rirht on trying just
barack
the some.
Yours truly,
B/iB
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1910. Battery - Storage - Foreign - General (D-10-07)
This folder contains correspondence and other documents relating to the
patenting, manufacture, and sale of Edison storage batteries in countries other
than the United States and Germany. Some of the letters refer to the marketing
of storage batteries and the promotion of the streetcar business in Japan.
There is also a reference to the battery business of Edison's former secretary,
Alfred O. Tate, in Toronto, Canada. Among the correspondents are Herman E.
Dick, John T. Morrow, H. F. Parshall, J. P. Morgan & Co. of New York, and
Morgan, Grenfell & Co. of London. Also included is correspondence with W. R.
Grace & Co. and Agar, Cross & Co. regarding sales rights for South America.
Approximately 60 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected consist primarily of inquiries about the nature and availability
of batteries and documents that duplicate information in selected material.
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Thomas A. Rdison, Sow anrkaft Fe ees ey
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Dear Mr. Edison:- ena ~ballenes Wr
On my way back to chit ago I a ae at Toronto where
I had an appointment with an officer of the Provincial Govern-
ment. While there I accidentally met A. 0. Tate, whom I had not
seen for years; he seemed very glad to see me and insisted on
my looking through his storage battery plant, which he is just
establishing, and gave me a report on the battery, and as it is
quite recent I enclose same herewith for you may not have seen
it. He seems quite enthusiastic over his prospects and I believe
contemplates leaving within a week or ten days for a trip abroad
to exploit his battery.
Since I have been in Canada the question has present-
ed itself as to whether you would care to establish a factory
there. I presume you know that Canada is making wonderful
strides, is very prosperous, growing very rapidly and business
is increasing by leaps and bounds. I have spent quite consider-
able time in Canada and have been greatly impressed with the fu-
ture possibilities of that country. As I am very well connect-
ed there with splendid people, it occurred to me that perhaps
your business might be increased tenfold if you were making your
goods in Canada instead of importing them, and I could find the
necessary capital to establish as large a business as you desire.
I believe that a large and profitable business can be done with
the battery as well as with anything else you wanted to manu-
facture in connection with it.
If this suggestion in general is favorably received,
I would be glad to go into the matter fully with you.
Trusting that you are enjoying the pleasant weather
in the South, and with my best wishes, I am,
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Tnomes A. Edison, BSG. Wleterery Cee
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iiy dear Sir,
J have duly received the handsome brochure showing
the progress you have bean waking in the development of your
stlorace nattery. I was proposing to send this brochure to
Sir Ernest Cassel, who is just now in Egypt. Toeday I met
dirs Grenfell cf Loran, Grenfell & Co. who brought to my
abtention certain information tnat you had furnished Messrs.
J. Pe. Horsan relating particularly to tig amount of monsy
required for manufacturing tne cells nere in England. Mr.
Grenfell suggested that I make a study of tue matter with a
view to assisting him in reaching a decision. On ace ount of
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various engagements I ghall tre unable to leave Exglend for some
montns to come. Mr. Grenfell is leaving England shortly .for
a America and I judge, from wit ne has said, woula like to have. :
some tnfornetion ready for him on his return. IT nave an old
Tnemas Ae Edison, Esq. wilOe os Pob. 146): 1020.
fricnd in Atmerica who nas
sen & good geal of his time to
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electroechemical processes. If iy were ageccable to you I
thing I ecules arrange for nic to viuil gov ana gel. certain
additional curticwlars us te the cost of producing ena
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maintaining the battery 2nd ite cconmercial life.
an thioking of is kr. J. T. Morrow, wao wos Por years associated
wisn tne Boston ucniana Mining Combariy and wore recently
bag becn advipiag Fe. s. Poarson in connection
electrical prscesucs. He is ens. luvely trustwertuy, rateocr
engnugiestic a& regards tse newe:
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Edison Storege Battery Co.,
Orange, MN. Jd,
Dear Sirs:
We beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter of March
24th,
. The writer will be only too glad to see your Mr, Dyer
on Tuesday afternoon, and will call at #10 - Fifth Avenue about
2PM. If this is not satisfactory to Mr, Dyer, kindly have him
telephone us, and we will make the hour whatever is suitable to
hin,
Yours very truly, ;
PPA. AGAR, CNOSS & CO. LTD.
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APR 21910
Edison Storage Battery. Co.,.,-------------—-------
Orange, Ne J.
Dear Sirs:
In reference to the conversation which the writer had
with your Mr, Dyer, we beg to put before you our ideas in re-
gard to representing your Company, as well as the Lansden
Vehicle Company, in the Argentine Republic, also Paraguay and
Uruguay, in South America,
4s already explained to your Mr. Dyer, we have a very
large organization and could very well take cere of your line
of storage batteries and vehicles in the countries above named,
We would at all times be willing to carry a consistent
stock, as far as possible, and would be willing to pay cash for
our original orders, However, on future orders we would have to
expect your Company to help us in carrying the goods for stock,
either by extended terms, or by additional discounts for cash pay-—
ment, .
We would put forth all our efforts to introduce the batter-
ies into our territory, and would expect to have full protection
and the sole agency from you, as long as we satisfactorily looked
after our territory, and would do all in our power to have the
business "go",
In case this matter was decided on promptly, we would agree
to make a showing of a few of these batteries at the Exhibition,
thich is to open in Buenos Aires on the 25th of May.
We would also expect you to put our Buenos Aires house in
possession of printed matter and complete data sovering the ef-
ficiency, life, etc,, of these batteries, to enahle them to represent
the goods in their proper light and proper value; also, to enable
them to figure on any outfit or combination of outfits for which a
demand might arise from time to time, We would also expect you to
fumish us with such electrotypes which you have in your possession,
to enable us to get up our om Spaenimh catalogs and pamphiets,
The writer understands that you will’ have to put this matter
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Edison Storage Battery Co., April ist, 1910,
Orange, Nd.
up to Mr, Edison for final decision, ond we hope we can look
forward to a prompt and favorable reply, as we would like to
start in to do pioneer work on these batteries at the beginning
of the Exhibition,
Yours very trmly,
a/R.
John T. Moris 4 : i wit istus Parratadf 9 nee
25, Broad Street,
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My dear Mr. Edison:- | nat, a {
Although I started in with the Edison Company
at No. 65 Fifth Avenue, New York City, in the year 1889, ‘Twenty-one
years ago, I had never had the pleagure of meeting you until yesterday.
I was associated with the Edison Company in New York and Boston
and afterwards with the General Electric Company at Lynn,for many years
I Wes Mr. Parshall's first assistant in the Designing Department
of the General Eleotric Company and from there went to Montana to take
charge of the Electrolytic refining of copper for the Boston and
Montana Copper Company. I remained there ten years and eventually
became General Superintendent of all of the operations pertaining
to the dressing and reduction of ores and the refining of the copper.
My work during the lest Pive years with the Boston and Montana Company
Was largely exeoutive and especially devoted to the reduction of
costs, in which I was very successful.
In 1903 I took the position of General Manager of the Greene
Consolidated Copper Company in Mexico, and afterwards went to Paris
and London to supervise business operations for friends of mine in
New York. I then came back to this City and took up the business
Mr. Thomas A. Edison = Bom
and engineering affairs of various organizations in a consulting
capacity.
During the past two years I have been carrying on certain
investigations for Dr. F. S. Pearson, President of the Mexico
Tramways Company and the Mexican Light and Power Company, with
relation to the establishment of certain power consuming industries
in or near the City of Mexico.
The Company has a large poWer surplus end their idea was to
establish certain industries, which while absorbing comparatively
large amounts of power at a good profit to the Power Company, could
at the same time be operated so as to make a good profit on the
business itself. For this purpose I made a oareful study of such
industries as,
Manufacture of Steel by Electricity,
Manufacture of Caustic Soda and Bleach,
Manufacture of Cyanide and Lime-litrogen,
Manufacture of Calcium Carbide.
In this connection I have devoted a great deal of time to the
study of the business and trade conditions pertaining to these dif-
ferent industries, and have given especial attention to the consider-
ation of such points as,
What is the demand for the article to be manufactured?
Will this demand increase or decrease?
What are the other products with which it must compete?
Cost to produce other competitive articles?
Cost to produce article under consideration?
How low can new product be sold at a proPit?
Result of cutting of prices by competitors?
Mr. Thomas A. Edison, -~ 3 -
A careful examination of such points as these is neoessary
in considering any new business or manufacturing enterprise, and
in making my atudy of the Edison Battery, I submitted it to the
foregoing tests with the very encouraging results indicated in
my report,
You will see that my work of late years has been more of a
business than engineering nature, though combining both, and I felt
quite at home in making the investigation, which Mr. Parshall
requested. In doing this, I endeavored to obtain all possible
evidence, both for and against, Which would in any way have any
bearing upon the matter, but the net result was overwhelmingly in
favor of the superiority of the Edison Storage Battery over all others ,
and its splendid financial value as a manufacturing industry.
I took the liberty of suggesting to you yesterday the matter
of opening a store somewhere in the Automobile Distriot on Broadway,
for the purpose of showing and demonstrating the Battery. I believe
that this will prove to be the best kina of advertising. A place
about 24 to 30 feet wide with about 50 to 60 feet depth will be all
that is necessary. This would allow room for an office and a couple
of demonstrating cars.
I have just finished my. emgoegement with Dr. Pearson and am now
at liberty to take up new work and would be very glad to be associated
with you in some capacity in connection with your Storage Battery,
either here or abroad.
If it is decided to manufacture your Batteries abroad for
European consumption, I would like to undertake the matter for you,
Mr. Thomas A. Edison, = Am
including the installing and operation of the factory and the sale
of the Batteries and Battery Cars.
If this should prove agreeable to you, it seems to me, that
it would be advisable for me to take up the work at once, in order
to get all possible experience in connection With the whole oenter-
prise, so that when it is decided to go ahead with the factory and
business abroad, I will have had considerable experience both in
the factory and sales departments.
If you care to keep the copy of the report which I made for
Mr. Parshall, please do so, as I have duplicates of every thing
in my Pile.
I Would like to hear from you at your convenience in reply
to this letter and will call on you at any time suiting your
convenience.
6 neerely,
My. r7roOlf>
gm™/D.
REFER TO THIS NUMBER FRANK L. DYER,
IN YOUR REPLY ORANGE. N. J.
i* MEMORANDUM ‘
ir. Philips: 5/6/10. os
Let me heve as coon sc possible a comnoreinl report on
Agar, Crosga & Co., lid., No. LL Grosdway, Now York. Thuse people
have offices in London end Buonos aires, ene { think thois m:in
of.ieo is in tondon. itiow soon may I exmcet the revort?
FLD/INy BR. OE. OD.
[ATTACHMENT: FROM R.G. DUN & CO. MAY 10, 1910]
B= Please note if NAME, BUSINESS and ADDRESS correspond with your inqutry.
‘NORR'GITY,
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in an interview with Richard Agar, a director, in the latter part. «.,
of July.1908, he averred’ that the above company was: incérporated | pan:
under the. Private Limited Company's Aot. of: England with headquarters
at London, Stated further and: showed. corroboration of same that
a certificate had been filed in the ‘office of the Secretary of State
at Albany, N. Y., May 21, 1908, for the purpose of having the. . :
privilege of doing business in this country: that of the. author-
ized capital stock of 650,000: pounds sterlings, some 300,000. pounds
had been’ taken bp by the officers and directors, while 50,000 pounds
‘Which was paid in in cask, was taken by the heads of different
, departments and their personal friends: that in addition the com —
pany had 300,000 pounds sterling which was voted to the members of
the old firm for the use‘of their name/ &c,, the officers med:
above together with James S. Agar, Richard Agar and.William A, Agar
composing thé: Board of Directors, the corporation being successor
tothe old established firm of Agar, Cross & Co. at said. interview
in July 1908) Richard Agar added that the headquarters. had bee
removed from Glasgow, Scotlend, to London, Eng., with. @: branch ‘at
Buenos. Ayres, S.:-A.- Be wees ee a ieee Ge ts pe
__._, . In’ the’ absence of the officers when a recent call was -: j
made at the office here, 7. A. Gun@lach,: General Manager, stated: ‘that.
_ the working: capital-was on sept, mothe tests inoreased: to 750,000 .° *
pounds sterling, the company. making , ‘purchases. for cash and=
- transacting business largely with South America, notably Buenos ;
Ayres, and being agent there for several large and prominent man-
- efactmring concerns in the United States,in the matter of sales, —s;
«Gundlach added that a substantial dividend has been ‘paid ta the =.
i-,shereholders from the profits of the business, © are heed
“ow . fhe concern is regarded locally es one of large means and |
| trustworthiness, & cash ctstamer in the market, and st mding high” ;
for engagements on itp accomt, == = (1) CMa
BXS* Please uote if NAMB, BUSINESS and ADDRESS correspond with your inquiry.
| AGAR, CROSS & CO, (Ltd,-~-s+---~--Bomn, Merchants--~----NuW YORK CITY,
Te ~ + | April 13, 1910-----11 Broadway, .
.This corporation though a foreign one in ‘the matter of its heads
quarters, same being located in London, ‘Eng., is highly regarded
in banking and commercial cioles locally and known ‘as: & cash |
buyer, and in the belief that-capital and’ resow ces até ample
oredit is high, 960 ee Poe
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" 289—-8-6~—09-—— Con. Be EES . ‘ seems hie
AR, CROSS & CO. LTD. - - =xptrse Agricultural - NEW YORK CITY.
ai, F. Agar, Managing Director, Iuplements ete (Manhattan)
Londor, Eng. 11 Broadway.
om Cross, Director, London, England. Rooms 901-3
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the nn Gross, Sec. London, England. Home office, Londun, hngland.
4/Richard Agar, Managing Director, N. Y. City. Branch Bueno. Ayres,
James S. Agar, Hanaging Director, Buenos Ayres, Arf.Rep. Arg.Rep.
William F. Agar, Director, Buenos Ayres, Arg. Rp.
William C. Nicol, Director, Bue:‘os Ayres, Arg. Rey.
This business was originally established at Glasgow, S-otland,
about: 1879. In 1898 the firm opered a branch in New York City for
the purchase and export of American goods, having previously been
represented by local commission houses. Until about June 1,1908 the
firm consisted of Thomas Forrest Agar, Malcom Crose, Richard Agar,
James Agar and William Agar, hut~about cthat time the present company
is said to have been incorporated under the laws of Creat Britain,
with headquarters at London, England and with an authorized capital
of 650,000 PoundsSterling. Its,principgi store is at Buenoe Ayres,
Argentine Republic, where a consgiderabid stock of goods is under-
etood to be carried and where thé~compafy acts as local representa—
tive of many large American manufacturers of agricultural iunple-
ments. The members of the old firm are. direvtors of the present
corporation and are looked upon as men of considerable individual
me ans having imany interests, and in high standing aid repute
abroad as well as in this country. The local representative is Rich-
ard Agar. The company is. estinafed worth $1,000,000.
a FRADE OPINIONS: “Ts in fuld- credit for, requirements the account
Preguentiiw. haine. ithe # p h
terms. Paynonte ate pOMpY GET EAB OBER one ae ceatestoa wy many Te-
putable ‘houses. ; = * ° . ee = De] ym
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Nesora. Ager, Cross > Co.,
11 Broadway,
Yew York: City.
Gentlemen:
Yours Of April Ist was culy receivod, and uron ‘ir.
Edison's return from the South tho mnetter wes taken up with him
and he focls favorably disposed toward your proposition provided
it is éefinltely and cloarly understood that the mattor of pretecting
you in hendling the Bdison bottery in Argentine, Paraguay and
Uruguay shell rest ontirely with hin. In other words, he will
be tho judge of the ouostion whether you are proporly roprosenting
us in those countrics. As I told you, however, I think you
nood have no fear but whet you would be treated with ebsolute
fairness in the metter, and I cen point out as en exemple of what
we are now doing the fect that we have thirteen thousand phono-
greph dealers in this country whom we protoct in the sano way.
Even if we concluded, aftor trying out the matter, that you were
not proporly representing us and decided to soll to other poople
for the countries in question, we would still continue to Sell
you, provided our expericnece as to pryments cte. had been satis-
factory. I note that you would be willing to carry a constant
stock as fer as possible and would be willing to pey cesh for
your initicl order.
Mr. Edison feols thet since the great field for his
Agar, Cross 4 Co. (2) : 5/10/10.
‘battery in Argentine, Peregmay and Uruguay would be in connection
with oloctrie vehicles, it would be wise not to attempt to hendie
the buttery clone, buy thot some aurrongenent should be made with
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represcentuvive houses to sum you with trucos and pleasure
vehicics. Such on awrancowent con be iece with
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Cheon buttery. By
handling both treat, ond pleasure vehicles, they could he sent
corplete Lo your BonBirnecs J y
betteries, and
pVinoned with
thore would, of eourse, be more or Leces businecs in our betterios
alone wi
&@ontuabex of vehiches were in use. If you cen make
ptLe factory arroentenencs with the andercon Carri
re CO5we or
on tele up the quos-
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tion of handbdar the laceden vehicle.
“0 far og ordnted uotter and comlete cote covering the
offiotency, life, cte., of the Rdison batterios cre coneerned,
T ean lst you hove these ct ony timo and elso clcctrotypes for
your Gnenish entelae
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wos and pomphlets.
oP course you will unterstand from wh:t I have written
ebheve tict aw Pinel decision on the metter wilL heve to wait
until you heave mede arrengements with somo vehicle concem and
I lmow exactly what business you expect to do in this territory. ‘
Yours very truly,
PuD/ WW Vice-President.
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Thos. A. Edison, Esq., We
Orange, N.J. U.S.A.
Dear Sir,
Referring to the correspondence which we andigiir; preder
cessors have had the pleasure of having with you since 1904., our
friends Messrs. J. P. Morgan & Co. of New York, enclosed us on
1gth February last copy of letters from you to éiaaasives dated
28th and 3ist January.
We beg to say that we have carefully considered the papers
sent us in reference to your Battery with a view to carrying out
arrangements for its manufacture and use in England. :
In view, however, of the improvements in Gasolene Engines
on the one hand, and the cheapness of horse traction in London and
other large cities here, we have felt doubtful of the special adap~
tabllity of your Battery to conditions in this country. Whereas
we understand that in the United States and elsewhere the Battery
has conclusively proved its usefulness, we do not feel certain that
the same success could be expected here.
We thank you for the consideration you have shown in sub-
mitting the business to us, and should you enter into negotiations
with other parties here we should wish the Battery and them every
success, Yours faithfully,
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Dear Sirs:
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We beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter of May 9th,
and wish to thank you for the consideration shovmm, The terms of
contract are entirely satisfactory to. us, as we feel quite sure
that we can give you a good ropresentation,
Now, in regard to the cerriage works, we would like to
eet
““Imow if it is absolutely necessary to deal with the two concerns
referred to in your letter, We have our yu carriage works; i.e.,
& concern from whom we are taking about $ 00,000 worth of carriages
. &« & year, and we had in mind to have this concer build for us a class
of vehicles to be used in connection with your batteries, which we
have no doubt will be satisfactory to you.
Relative to the Iansden Co's, product, the writer expects
that within two or three deys Mr, Richard Agar, a Director of our
Company, will be back in New York, when we will take him over to
Newark to show him the Lansden line,
As soon as we have been able to look into this matter more
thoroughly - within the next two weeks — wo will write you again,
Yours very truly,
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May 17th 1910.
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My dear Sir,
I nave your letter of the gth inst. JT have known
wer. Jolin T. Morrow for a good many years. -He certainly has
proved himself to be nonest, energetic and intelligent. He
jas some knowledge of chemistry. If he were to take hold
of tna factory nere in England, it would, I think, be Jece ssary
for nim to work with you at Orange for sometime, so ap to
make himself entirely proficient. As ya are aware, Bergmann
is a very skilled manufacturer, but if my information is correct
ne did not succeed in making as good a battery as the one
that you have bean turning out in the States, or as food as the
sample batteries Waicn you have sent over here.
If the Morgans saould undertake the business, I think
Morrow, working under your direction, Would ba ap good a man
Thomas A. Edison,, Esq -2- May 17th 1910.
asyou would be likely to find.
Witn kind regards, I remain,
Yours very truly,
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en Harris & Mills,
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London, Englané.
Gentlenon:
Rogerding the working of Mr. Edison's battery nat-
ents in England, I have elready had some corresondenece with
you and have always understood thet so long es Hr. Edison
was making efforts to commercially perfeot tho battery in
the United States and was not selling the samo commncrelal ly
it would not bo roasonable to expect him to com once commer-
cial manufecture in Creat Britain and run the possible riek
of failuro. As T understood your position, if enyone ottempt-
ed to bring about the cancellation of tho Edison patents, the
Comptrolicr would probebly regard the situetion os warranting’
en extension of time in which to commercially work the inven-
tions in Great Britain.
A now situation has now arisen, on which I would like
your opinion. Boginning last July the Edison battery was
placed on the market in this country in a porfectod and highly
develored form. We believe it is now a finisned product.
Tho public ere willing to pay = higher price fb tho Eaison
(2)
battery than Lor tho lead battery bocense of the advantages
of the former, but there is a limit to the price we can obtein,
because if the price is made too high the battery user might
prefor to buy a number of successive scts of lead battery
end when one set is worn out put in another set. the price
to the public therefore being fixed by the public demend and
by the comperison of the edventoagos af the Edison battery
the battorices at e su ficiently Low » a
them 2% the priec the public ore willing to pay and meke a
feix profit on the transaction, 2 considoreble number of
cells ner doy require to be made. In the United States we
heve made 250 eelis per day and with this output can menu-
feeture ang sell them «t 2 profit. Tf we only made 100
cells per day the cost would be so great thet wo would hevo
to sell them at 2a loss. As the output increases to 500
or 1,000 eclis per day or more, the cost of mnenufacture will
be gtill further reduced snd the pr’ce to the public can be
also reduced.
liow in Croet Britain there is little or no demand for
Edison battorics and it may be two or three yoars before such
domend exists, and when it comes it will probably be e ro-
flection of the denand wirich has been created in this country.
If Me. Edison should sturt a factory in Great Britain, the
probabllitics are that for a yoar or se the demand for
Edison battorios would not excoed 100 cells per day, and
if this smell number was mado the business could not be
earriod on at a profit. The guostion, thorofore, which i
put to you for cosi
"-ngidoration is this: Must Ma. Edison
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supply the demand in Groat Britein by sterting a Lactory there
end commencing manufacture when he Imows thet for some time
the nunbor of betteries that can be sold will. be so few in
number that tho operations cannot be carried on except ct a
loss? Or in other words, will ho be permitted to supply
the demand in Great Britain from the United Stetos and when
the British demand reaches the point of say 250 eclla por
dey, when operations could be carried on in Groat Britain
et a profit, would he then be pormitted without jooperdizing
his patents to start a Zectory in Great Britain to comuicnco
inanufacture there end supply the entire British trsde
from that factory?
I wish you would give these auestions very careful con-
sideration end if possible consult with other persons who iaey bo
able to assist you. I wight sey that the reason why I
put these questions to you is thet lr. Edison hes medo ar-
rengenonts Lor obtaining British capital to sturt a battery
factory but he doos not wish to comuence openisfadils with ea
reasonable certainty thet for a year or so, wmtil e suffi-
cient domend in Great Britein has been croated, the opora-
tions would be probably carried on 2t a loss.
Yours vory truly,
FUD/ iwi ; Generel Counsel.
foTling
June 6, 1910.
Messrs. Agar, Cross % Co.,
Li Broadway,
New York.
GontiLenen: ;
Yours of Mey 13th was duly received. Our only purpose
in sugresting that if possibdlc you make arrengements for handling
either the Bailey or Detvoit earrizge in Argentine wes thet both
of these vehicles heve been especially designed for use with the
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Edison pettery. fhe Edison bettery, being considerably Lichter
than the ordinary lead duttery, the vehicles for use with them
cen be proportionately Ligitex. 2t is also important that the
motor shoulda he wound to ect the characteristics of the Fdison
Battery, und both tho Detroit end Bailey vehicles hsvo motors
which have been specially wound for this purpose. fo use the
Edison battery in a vehicle that was particularly designed for
fe would be unduly
lead betteries would mean that the ontire owt
heavy and the motor would not give the best results, consequently,
tho Edison battery would not make as good a showing with such a :
vehicle as it is capable of with a vehicle especially designod
for it.
Most of the builders of olectric vehicles in this
country mow moro or less about the Edison battery/ and it is
seats satabid gcse 4
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possible thet the concern with whon you deal may bo quelifiod to
buijé a vohi¢le that will ansver the purmose e11 right. If you
will tell me tho name of this coneern Tf will advise you on this
point. If they would not be able to build a proner line of
venleles for the Bdison bettory, you mipht arrenge to morely
buy the chasces from the Detroit company or Bailey Commany, ship
these to Buenos Aixves end heve the wagon work done in that country.
As a neatter of fact, I shoulda think this would be the most econem-
jee] and satisfectory arrengement, because you would save freight
on the bodies ond they would be Sure to be built in conformity
with South tmericen idags.
Yours vory truly,
PLup/ Iii Vice-°resident.
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W.R.GRACE X Co. HANOVER SQUARE.
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SAN FRANCISCO VALPARAISO
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GRACE BROTHERS & CO.,Lto. :
LONDON.
NEw YoRK June 9th,s19106
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NeJe a caked 1 1 1910
Gentlemen: ~ hig ay Cote ee
In your favor of the ist inst. regarding sup~
plying us with storage batteries for Chile, we note you
ean only sell them with the understanding that we do not
send them anywhere except to this countrye
We would like to know if we are to understand
from this that you are tied up in Peru, BozYivia and Ecuador,
or if we would be allowed to sell there and at the same
pricese
yours very truly,
WeReGRACE & OOo,
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June 13, 1910.
Messrs. We Re Grace & Co.,
Purchasing Department,
2. O. Box 268, New York.
Gentlemen:
‘Replying to yours of the 9th inst., my purpose in
stating thet in the case of shipment of batterics to Chile they
should be useg in that country was to prevent the shipment of
these batteries into Argontine end Brazil, with both of which
torritorics wo expect to mako special arrangements. So far ag
Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador ero concerned, we are free to make
sales in those countries the samo as in Chile, and there would be
_ no objection so far as these four Republics are concermed
(Chile, Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador) if the batterios were Bent
from one to the other.
Yours very truly,
PLD/IWW Vice-President.
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The Edison Storage Battery Co., anf ages
De JUN 6 1910
Orange, UJ. iy
Gentlemen;
We acknowledge receipt’ of yours of the 13th inst. and are
pleased to uote that you will quote us on vatteries for shipment to
the Republics of Uhile, Peru, Rolivie and Ucuador on the Veet Coast
of South America,
We have recently received a copy of your catalozue, on page
48 of wnich we cote price list covering cells and parts. Will
you kindly advise us what discounts you will ellow from these orices
to cover delivery of the material F.a.s.Vessel, i.Y¥., packing for
export to the countries ebove mentioned?
ve should like to ask if you would consider appointing us your
representatives tor those countries, as we are eqipped to push the
sale of this material,
We are agents for a number of large fmerican manufacturers,
including the General “lectric Co., The Ingersol-Rand Co., The
International Steam Pump Co., The Allis-Chalmers Co., (for lining
Machinery) and others,
We have our own offices‘in the principal cities, and a Technical
staff consisting of electrical and mechanical engineers,
You will see that we are properly prepared to follow up any
inquiry which may come in from those countries and properly present
proposals covering this apparatus,
May we ask you to give us about 30 copies of your catalogue,
so that we may place them in the hands of our technical men and
prospective purchesers?
Yours very truly,
W. R. GRACE & CO.,
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Purchasing Agent,
June 17, 1910.
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P.O. Box 286,
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Gentlemen:=
Yours of the 14th inst, has been received and
in accordance with your request," I hand you herewith 30_
copies of our onc oneeneecbatating to the Edison Storage
Battery. The maximum discount that we can allow from these
prices is 20%, which is the discount allowed by us to the
automobile manufacturers in this country. Possibly later
on when the cost of manufacture can be reduced, these dis-
counts may be somewhat increased, but we can give no definite
assurance on this point. ‘The prices in every case are F.0.B.
Orange.
In regard to your suggestion that you should aot
as our representatives for the Repiblios of Chile, Feru,
Bolivia and Eouddor, we do not make exclusive contracts for
any given territory, but in a number of cases have agreed to
protect concerns handling the battery in species fields by
not selling to others and referring all inquiries and orders
#2 Messrs. W. R. Grace é& Company.
to them so long as we feel that the business is being proper-
ly developed. We ore willing to muke this arrangement with
you in the Republics named, retaining ourselves the right,
however, at any time to terminate the arrangement if, in our
opinion, the business is not being properly sahad:, Cf course
until some definite arrangement is made regarding these Re-
publics we would be very glad to fill your orders, but obvi-
ously we cannot allow our maximum discount of 2055 on orders
for single sample cells.
Yours very truly,
FLD/ ARK. Vice-President.
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Hr. Bee:~
I am returning Herewi th letter from HNessrs, Melchior,
Armstrong & Dessau, Please note Mr. Edison's memorandum attach-
ed thereto regarding sales of storage batteries in foreign
countries. Orders must not be accepted or filled for batteries
in France, Great Britain, Germany, Austria, Ilungary and Canada.
in the following countries, to the list price, less discount,
should be added royalties at 60 cents per cell for A-4 cell,
90 cents per cell for Am6 cell, $1.20 per cell for A-8 cell,
and in the same proportion for all cells:
Polgiup New Bouth Wales
Italy ,» Russia
india ‘Spain
Japan Switzerland
Mexico Sweden
Viotoria
in oll other countries not mentioned above, sales can
be made without royalty.
F.L. Dyer.
FLD/ ARK.
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vanins: “OOSINUA.”
WILLIAM 8. HULSE, diminias/anje rua cova
30 CILUROCIH STREET, TELEMNOND 7662 CouTLannt.
New Yor«k.
Thor, A. Edison, Esq.,
Llewllyn Perk, N. J.
Deer ir. Edison:-
i have just received a note from Dr. Rethenau, in
vhich he asks thet you kindly sccept his ¢incere thanks for the
signed copy of your bettery catalogue, as well os his friendliest
greetings and best wishes,
Yours very truly,
WitieS
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FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY
MANUFACTURERS OF
BEACH CARS
EQUIPPED WITH
EDISON STORAGE BATTERIES
$779 HUDSON TERMINAL
50 CHURCH STREET
‘PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
NEW YORK CITY Nec, 15, 1919.
ur, Frank 4. Dyer,
YP. & Geni Coursol,
Rdison Storase Battory Co.,
ORANG, tied.
liy doar Dyer:
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Enclosed you will please find a letter from Messrs.cC. Tenant
Sons & Co., 3. HN. Hunter & Co. of this City, Agonts. I am not surs
whether I have written you about these people before or not. They
are a cood house and want the agency for the battery and the cars in
Japan. It is difficult to say who to give the agency to. Ve
havo told thom that if they would buy one or two cars for domon-
stration purposes in Japan ve would give them the agency. or
course in recnrd to the battery I have said nothing.
Yours truly,
TEDSRAL STORAGE BATTOE CAR COMPANY,
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R. I. Boach, Eeq.,
Pedoral Storage Battery Car Co.,
1779 Hudson Terminal Building,
New York City-
Dear Mr. Boadh:
Yours of the 15th inst. was @uly received with
enclosed ‘Lotter from Hessrs. C. Tennant Sons % Co. as agents
of E. H. Hunter & Co. of Jepan. I have already hed some ,
ecrrespondence with these people, but nothing seemed to come
of it because they epperently will not be satisfied with eny-
thing but e formal contract tying ur ir. Edison for a period
of yoaors end which, of course, he will not male.
I have been having some correspondence with the
Kavapaki Dockyard Co., ta, of Kobo, Japan, in reference to
the bettery rr Japan, end have put up to them the same propo-
sition as to Bergmann for handling Germany, i-e., first go
‘into the menufacture or importation of vehicles end when a
sufficient demand hes been created to then commence the man-
‘ufacture of the battery. I do not know whether anything
will come of this correspondence, but they sent a man over
hore last your and he took back a sample vattery with him.
He reports that his people ere very much interested. I
find that they are a large concern and have done considerable
business with the General Electric Co. Of course if they
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take up our proposition for Jepan it might be « little ombarr-
assing to havo your car handled by anyone else, but at the
sane time, since tho whole matter is moro or loss indefinite,
I could not suggest thet you should let up in your efforts
to interest E. Il. Hunter & Co. I do foel, howevar, that in
considering the granting of sny foreign rights we ought to
keop as close togother as possible, so thet your car and our
batteries may always get in the samo hands. Don't you think
it would be well for us to heve a goneral discussion of these
matters and egree not to take up the question of agencies
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Yours vory truly,
PID/TW Vice-President.
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manufacture and sale of Edison storage batteries by Sigmund Bergmann and
his Deutsche Edison-Accumulatoren-Co. Included are items pertaining to
machinery and material for the batteries, the outfitting of the Bergmann
Electrical Works, the finances of the Deutsche Edison-Accumulatoren-Co., and
the use of storage batteries in streetcars. Among the correspondents are Frank
L. Dyer, vice president of the Edison Storage Battery Co., and O. A. Rogers,
who was sent to Berlin to assist Bergmann in preparing machine tools for the
improved battery.
Approximately 60 percent of the documents have been selected. The
items not selected include letters of transmittal and introduction, minutes of a
company board meeting, and documents that duplicate information in selected
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THOMAS A. EDISON, President. W. S. MALLORY, Vice-President. H. F. MILLER, Secretary-Treasurer.
EDISON CHEMICAL WORKS.
TELEPHONE «1086 BLOOMFIELD.”
SILVER LAKE, N. Jey tar. /1/10.
Mr. ¥. 1. Dyer,
"dfson Phonograph Works,
Orange, WN. J.
Dear Sir:—
Tum in recetnt today o* your letter o* the 28th, reparding
shipment. oF 200 lhs. nickel-hvdrate tc Rogers at Berlin. TI note
in Mr. Rogers’ letter that he asks for hydrate ground snd serecened.
We do not erind and sereen the hydrate down here, same being done
at Orange, and therefore T have asked Mr. Dodge to see that this
material is shinned to Mr. Rogers and he in°’ormed me thet he al-
ready has shinned the flake and will send the 200 lbs. of hydrate.
IT enclose the letter *rom Mr. Rogers and have sent the order to
Mr. Dodge.
Trusting that this will be satisfactory T remain,
Yours truty,
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Prussian railways are desirous to > in w, “whether your_accumulattor
can be used for driving the big ‘cars, which up to net Titted
with lead accumulators. Such a car carries a leak accumilator with
a capacity of about 100 Kilowatthours, the weight of the cells
being about 17 tons. The car runs as long as the lead celis are
new about 60 miles with one charge. We have offered your batt eries
for this purpose, i.e. big cells of about 1000 Ampérehours cape=
city. Our prices are of course extremely. high compared with the -
lead cells, but. we hope, that our negotiations finaly will show
good results.
Rogers is here since beginning of January and I thank
you very much, that you have send him over. His many experiences
will be of great value for us and I hope, that after a short time
Deutsche €dison- Wkkumulatoren-Company
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we will be in the position to manufacture the new cell on a small
scals.
You would to do me a great favor if you would let me
imow, whether you intend to start business in Ingland this year.
If that should be the case I hope, that you will give me the order
for the machinery for the new factory as you promised me,
Hoping you in good health and awaiting a favorable
answer, I am with kindest regards
Yoyrs very truly
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Dear Sir, 7 omer % he
Our customers, in the first place raily y-people and
manufacturers of ratiwayscare ars very interested to hear details
about the ‘trials, which you are making there in New-York and
Orange with the new battery type Ae We therefore ‘beg to ask you,
to send us some datas about the street-cars, which are since
a couple of weeks running with the new battery. We would also
like to have, if possible, some photos like those, which you
supliied to "scientific American", issue of February Sth. It
would of course be of great value for us, if we could explain
our customers, under which conditions te new battery is working,
i.e, number of celis, discharging rate by running on level road,
mileage with one charge, total-weight of car, speed per hour.
We further beg you, not to give any datas about the new
battery to other people here in Europe in order to prevent, that
the Tecnical Journals in these countries might publish reports,
which are not right.
Deutsche €dison- Akkumulatoren ~Company
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moonle an€ cee wie they tent. “No soys thet he vents you to
hendle the bhatbory in Vorvay onc Sweden subjeet to cencelLlation
at ony tine. With this understanding, I wish you would got in
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New Jersey,
Dear Mr, Edison:
Mr, Paul Mankiewitz, a Director of the Deutsche
Rank, largely interested in electrical matters in Berlin,: will
gladly avail of an opportunity to call upon you some time next
week, if you will kindly make an appointment therefor, prefer-
ably some afternoon, and give him several days! advance notice,
so that he may arrange his engagements accordingly,
The Deutsche Bank, you may remember, has financed
many issues of electrical securities, including those of sienchs
& Halske, the Berlin Electrical Company, and the Bergmann Elec«
trical vorks,
Thanking you in anticipation of your usual cour-
tesy in these matters, I am
Sincerely yours
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on reply please quote
Thomas A. Edison Esq., : NM 47 15 b
Llewellyn park,
New Jersey.
My dear Edison.
Mr. Kammerhof, Mr. Rogers and-I have just had a conference
“with regard to the new Edison battery, and we have come to the con=
clusion that, in order to get started with the new battery quickly
and push it well commercially we must know exactly what the new flake
is going to cost us. :
It needs quite a pig apparatus for the manufacture of this
nickle flake, and we have no room to spare for this machine at present
in our factory, so that, if we were ourselves to take up the manufact=
ure of the flake, it would mean building a new factory department,
Wowld it not be possible for you to sell us the flake,
at a small profit to yourself, for about ‘a year to come? This would
facilitate matters considerably, and we should then be absolutely
certain beforehand how much the battery costs to make.
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‘BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS cmacuine DEPARTMENT).
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Thomas A. Edison, Orange.
We are going ahead at full speed with all the other tool#
and machinery necessary for this battery, such as filling machines fer
| the tubes,and grinders, as well as pressing machines, rolls, eta.,
| and are trying to turn them out as quickly as ever possible.
If.you could send us over one of your new type filling
michinea. this would also help to expedite matters considerably, ag
the machine we are now using is merely an adaptation of the old omé.
Mr. Rogers has also written to Dyer with regard to flakes,
ahd I hope that you will see your way clear to send us a small quantaityy
at once, as that nian we have. here and which we can manufacture is
a mere bagatelle,
I have received the goodg news from Mrs. Edison that you
are all coming over here in August. I only hope that this has now
been definitely settled, and that you will really keep your promise
this time,
With best wishes, =
Sincerely yours,
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Drontheimerstr. 35-38,
Berlin, H., Gormuny.
Gentlemen:
Yours of the lst inst. wan duly received, and I roferred
the same to iir. RE. H. Beach, who hap been dovoeloring the strect
railroad esr for use with the Ndison battery in colleboration
with ir. Edison.
I bog to hand you herewith © cony of iir. Beach's letter
“to.mo of the 19th inst., which I think covers all tho points to
which you refer, end which will ensle you to satisfactorily
enswor eny questions concorning thio car. As soon as tho Engi-
noers' report ion recoived from tho Goncral Electric Compeny I
will pend a copy of tho samo to you.
In this connection please note that Mr- Edison, at the
presont time at least, wishos to have the matter of this car
handled by you in Europe, subject, of course, to a future arrange-
mont as to procise torms. I make this omgbqaihn because the
errangoment between Hr. Edison and Mr. Boach is not ontirely defi-
nite. Mr. Boach has been dovoeloning the cer under Mr. Edison's
direction, snd the only thing ‘s0 far arranged is that if the car
meeto with iir. Edison's approval he will supply bettorios for
opoyeting the sane. Therefore, Mr. Edison is not entirely free
to conclude arrangements which will bind Mr. Beach so far as
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Europe is concerned, but IT heve no doubt that tir. Beach will be
guided very largoly by whet lir. Ecison mey wish to heve dono in
the mettor. Under tho cireumstences I think you would be cuite
safe in going ehoad and offering to take up tho ear pronovition in
Europe if a good onnortwity arises, leaving tho mnetter of the
doteails of the arrangement to be concluded subsceuently.
In this connection, I beg to hand you herewith oa loettor
from iir. Francis Xoch of St. Potersburg releting to the Edison
battery, and which I wish you would enswer diroct from Borlin.
ur. Koch was introduced to lr. Edison by the Americen gonsul
in St. Petersburg, and I wish, therefore, thet you would give the
lettor sveciel consideration.
Yours vory trul:,
FuD/IWY Vice-President.
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Mr. Frank Lb. Dyer,
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Dear sir, :
We herewith beg 40 acknowledge receipt of your favor
of April the 26th and have studied the repor® of Mr. R.H. Beach
thoroughly. We find in the report very interesting datas, but would
like to have also the Enginoer-Report of the General Electric-Com=
pany, Which you mention in your letter and which in the meantime
may have neached you. In his letter Mr, R.H.Beach speaks of
detailed. description, but this reprint we did not get. Please
let us have it if possible, Regarding handling of business of
those cars in Europe we. note with thanks, that Urs Edison wants
us to look after this matter, We will only be to glad to do what:
is in our power to go ahead in offering and selling those cars
together with batteries. i“t is however understood, that it is
absolutely necessary to have some datas about prices, measureyents
ete, in order to negotiate with our oustomers. Probably Mr.R.H.
. Beach will now be in the position, to let us have drawings of the
details of the car including information about weight etc,
Furthermore we Would like to know, under which condi-
tions we can either buy this car from Mr. R.H.Beach or his
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concern, or in Whatway we oan negotiate with German firms, who
built such cars here in Germany. ;
Regarding Mr. Francis Koch of St. Petersburg would
say, that we have written to this Gevitieman, but received the
‘answer, that he wants to wait until we are able to supply the
new cells type A. It will of course still take some time, before
We are through with tools and machinery for the new cells.
Hoping to get some more informations from you and
thanking you in advance for your kind effrts, We mre.
Yours very truly
Pausche F2-9n-Akkumal
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Form.285.6.09.
Thomas A. Edison Esq
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On reply please quote
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Qranges.
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New Jersey.
My dear Edison,
I am in receipt of a letter, dated May 6th, from your
Laboratory, signed in your name, but not by you, and, as I do not know.
whether you are acquainted with the contents of same, I am sending you
a copy herewith.
I am very sorry to hear that-you cannot supply us with even
a limited quantity of nickle flake, in order to enable us to make a
quicker start with the new battery. _ $f we were to put up a plant
to make nickle flake according to Rogers' instructions, it would aimply
mean that we should have to invest another % 75,000, to $ 100,000.=,
as we should have to put up more buildings and machinery for this pur=
pose.- ' This is at present practically impossible, as 1 have not the
courage to ask the Shareholders of the Deutsche Bd ison-Akkumulatoren=
Company to put any more money into the concern just now. We are
BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (MACHINE DEPARTMENT).
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Thomas A. Edison Rsq., Orange,
obliged to show them a little Progress, and we think we can do this
more quickly with the old battery of our different types, for the varloug
purposes for which we are now manufacturing Suet although in. qomparas
tively smail quantities,
Furthermtre, we must first be quite sure that we have a
good market for this new battery, which costs considerably mare to
produce than the old type, although I, personally, am of course fully
: perpuaied that the new one is much the better of the two.
Now, if you want to help us to find a market for this new
battery and to push same, without our having to make the investment
. mentioned above, you can do so by sending us, say, 150 cells complete,
of types A 4 and A 6, and also by sending us, if possible, ‘say, 100: kilos
of nickle flake, at the cheapest rate you can for both,
. We should then be able to get a good start with the new
battery and place it more favourably on the market, and we shoukd, at
the same time, be able to manufacture a wertain nunber of cella ourselves
I very much regret to hear from Mrs, Baison to-day that you
will not, after all, be able to come over -here by August, but I hope
you will still make good your promise next Springs -
In this letter from your Laboratory it is atated that the
' English experts have reported very favourably. This is certainly
very good news. Can you let me know when you think this English
‘Company will be started? | I should like to know, as it takes quite
some time, as you know, to fit up a plant for the manufacture of the
battery, and it will also take us a considerable time, in case you wish
Form, 55511, 8. 09,
BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (MACHINE DEPARTMENT).
asa
Thomas a. Edison, Esq., Orange.
to give us the order, to make the machinery, for the English Company ,
Please answer this letter by return mail, and oblige. ra
we
Youys very truly,
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BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (macuiNE DEPARTMENT).
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Form the Laboratory
of
Thomas A. Edison,
Orange, N.J. May &th, 10.
S. Bergmann Fsq.,
23, Oudenarder Str.,
Berlin, N. Germany.
Dear Mr. Bergmann:
Your letter of the 23rd ult. received. I do not
see how we could spare any flake. We now work night and day to supply
ourselves and we should have to stop manufacturing to the extent of
the amount you take,
The flake making apparatus is cheaply and easily made, and
Mr. Rogers knows all about it, and we could give you full instructions.
It's the simplest imaginable thing to do. I understood you had plenty
of room.
The English expert has made his report and 1 expect to hear
from them in a few weeks. He went into the thing thoroughly. It's
a large report and is extraordinarily favourable.
Hearn and Company have just thrown out their lead batteries
and taken ours. Their outs show that notwithstanding they pay us two
and one half times as much as lead, ours is the cheapest. One half of
their vehicles were lead and one half Edison for the past four years.
Yours very truly,
(Signed) Thos. A. Edison
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Thomas A. Edison, Esq.
Orange New Jersey U.S.A.
My dear Edison,
I herewith beg to acknowledge receipt of your favor
of May the 29th, in which you write me about Lovomotives for
the railways, running between lew-York and New-Haven etc. I can
only tell ypu, that I am very glad to here, that you already
intend to go ahead and put your new battery in Locomotives.
There will no doubt be a big market for the battery as soon
as the first trial shows, that you can compete in regard to
poWer, speed and costs with steam=locomotives.
On the other hand I see, that you now have come to the
conclusion, to change the construction of your new cell in that
way, that the charging and discharging time can be considerably
cut down,This is, as far as I can judge, a very important
step. Our competition against the lead battery has al «
ways been very difficult owing to the fact, that for many
purposes we are bpund to aut in an Electromobile a battery,
that has a higher capacity as necessary or wanted. This of
course increases very often the selling price more than
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Deutsche €dison~- Nkkumulatoren-Company
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Thomas A. Edison, Esq.,j Orange.
desirable,
I would like to get from you as soon as possible
drawings and description, i.e. every details of the new con «
struction in order to be able to manufacture those cells with
tubes of 1/8 inch diameter, because I am the meaning, that we
can make far better use of these cells than of those fitted
with tubes of 1/4 inch diameter.
Today I got your favor of the 8th inst, regarding
the mining lamps, which we have made here, I note with pleasure,
that you think, you can make use of these lamps over there in
the United States and will send you as soon as possible a dozen
of the different lamps including small cells, I hope you will
find a inaakee’t for-the same. The low price, at which we sell our
lmmps and cells would surely enable you to sell these in the
United States in spite of the havy duty,
In connection with your letter of the 8th inst, I
want to ask you whether you agree, that I sell these mining
lamps also to England, I put this question before you, be =
cause you pend me a letter, which was written to you by a
Gentleman, named Gui simonds, Newcastle, England, who wants
to buy electric handl amps from you.
Your letter of the 8th inst. is not quite clear in
that respect and I hesitate to send any cells and lamps to
England as jong as you did not agree to it,
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Deutsche €dison-~ Nkkumulatoren-Company
G. m. b. B.
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Thomas A.B digaon, Esq., Orange,
Hoping you in good health, I am with kindest regards
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My dear Edison, E i
I have received your. letter of June 21st,. and am glad.to —
hear the good news contained theréin. However, before we can possi-
bly expend the small amount of capital left out of ‘the three millions,
we must have your statement corroborated, as I simply cannot ask our
Shareholders for anymore money until I can give them my. personal
assurance that a further investment is justified. -
I have, therefore, come to the conclusion that it would be
the best plan of all to. send Mr. Kammerhof over there once more, so
that he can go thoroughly into the details of the: new.and improved
battery. I first of all thought of sending Rogers with him, but,
apart from the extra expense, it is necessary that somebody should be
here to look after the workshops. I am, therefore, going to leave
it. to Kammerhof! s judgment to telegraph. for Rogers? assistance or not ~--
Form. 55511, 8.09,
: BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (macuiNE DEPARTMENT).
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Thomas A. Edison Esq ,, Orange.
when he arrives in America, according to whether he deems it necessary
for Rogers to come over or not.
I am sure you will agree with me that this is the best way
to settle the matter, and that you will. give Kammerhof the same free
hand to go into the details as you did before, He can also then
arrange with you regarding furnishing hydrate, flake, and soforth,
so that we shall be able to begin with the new battery immediately on
his return,
I must also ask you to let us have one of the filling
machines which make the small tubes.
I assure you that if you can help us now to quiet down the
Shareholders, you would do me a personal favour, They are getting
very "ugly" now, and talking about sueing me for getting them to sub<
scribe for the Stock for the Deutsche Bdison Akkumulatoren Company
under false pretences, and I know.if you will help me that we can quiet
them down, and probably show them. that they have not spent their money
in vain.
Yotrs sincerely,
en a
a : July 25, 1910.
Deutsche Edison Alicurmletoron Co.,
Dromthoimerstr. 35-58,
Berlin, H., Gexmony.
Gontilomen:
Your favor of Juno 6th was duly recoived in roference
4o the Beech car operated by Edison petterics, cud the deley in
answering has been ane to tne dbfPiculty in getting the roauisite
dete from ir. Beach. T send you under separate covor e@ pookloet
piving photoprephs of the car end drewings thorcof, and also a
covy of 2 letter dated April 27, 1910, from the Engineering De-
partment of the General Electric Co., togothor with a copy of
tonts of the cer mde by the Generel Electric Co. ir. Boach
advises mo that he is not yet roady to fwenish completo working
dravrings, but he suggests thet you should order a complete car, yh
wirich cen be shipped to Germany Imocked-down, so as to be copied
by you. iet me Imow what you think of this suggostion and I
Will then take up tho metter with Me» Edison and got his opinion.
ily. Beach has no definite proposition to moke regarcing
telcing up the cer in Gexmeny, nor havo I ony suggostions, as I am
quite unfamilier with the tram cor situation in Gormany- Assum-
ing the cer to be what these tocts indicate, whet business do you
think could be done in Goxmeny with it? You might mae a tonta-
tive proposition as to whet you think tho Germen Compeny could do
Dowtsche Edison Al. Co. (2) 7/25/10.
Iwill then discuss the matter with ir. BRéison.
Yours vory truly,
PID/ Iv Vice-Pronident.
Ene-
[ATTACHMENT]
FEDERAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COMPANY
MANUFACTURERS OF
“BEACH CARS"
EQUIPPED WITH
Mr F.L.Dyer, | (MEDISON STORAGE BATTERIES” July 12, 1910.
ViceOPrest.Edison Strg.Batry.Coe,
ORANGE Nd. 1779 HUDSON TERMINAL
SO CHURCH STREET
ly dear Lir Dyer: "PHONE 3356 CORTLANDT
NEW YORK CITY
I am sending you herewith copy of the report made by the General Electric
Compeny, asrequested in your favor of the llth, which you wish to send over to the
German people.
Regarding the patents, I would suggest that you go chead and make application
in Germany, France and Great Britain; kindly instruct Mr Smith to go ahead with
this and oblige,
Yours very truly,
FEDSRAL STORAGE BATTERY CAR COLIPANY,
L1B Lek
ENCLS. J
[ATTACHMENT]
GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY, -~-COPY-~-«= WEST LYNN, ASS.
Principal Office, Schenectady, N.Y. April 27, 1910,
Mr. R. N. Beach ee
Lo Fifth Avenue, ay
Wew York, N.Y. ~
Dear Sir:--
I am pleased to acknowledge your letter of the 2lst in which you
give information relative to the very satisfactory operation of the stor-
age battery street car,
With reference to your inquiry on the controller, would advise
that we are now proceeding to get out a design suitable for your work
which we hope to have available in several weexs time. This controller
will apply our continuous torque principle in which the current is never
interrupted and the batteries will be placed permanently in series. ‘There
will. be 6 speeds forward, tne fifth of which ;;ives you series parallel
motor arrangement with series field shunted. On the first four positions
the motors are kept in series, the first being resistance in circuit and
the next three with straight series connection and with aawiag field and
shunted,
As soon as we have prepared a DS sketch showing the complete
connections I will see that you are svpplied with a copy,
I believe that this controller will give you much more satis-
factory service on your car, permitting you especially to Operate ata
greater variety of speeds than the controller which you now have, and also
prevent the excessive rush of current and the high wattage on the third
position which you have secured.
I forwarded yesterday to Mr. C. B. Keys, of our New Yor: Office,
who will cupply you with the information, complete data covering my recent
investigation of the energy consumption on your car, The results show up
very favorably on the second position with reference to watts per ton mile
[ATTACHMENT]
Mr. R. N. Beach -2- April 27, 1910,
On the third position there is a decided increase in this wattage which
is, however, not. unreasonably high, \
Reviewing the proposition as a whole it seems very attractive
and we see no reason why the storage battery car is not a commercial poss-
ibility,
You will no doubt hear from Mr. eys relative to the data which
I prepa-ed,
If I can be of any further service to you along the lines of
this proposition, or otherwise, I shall be pleased to hear from you
yoursvery truly, (Sed) H. S, Baldwin, per J.C.Clendenin,
Engineering Department, THE GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY,
[ATTACHMENT]
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The tracks over which the car operates, on 28h and 29th Street Cross
town, pass for the most part through districts where the traffic condi-
tions are very congested. ‘he condition of the road bed in many placed
is also very rough and uneven which would vender it difficult to get any
consistent testing results. For this reason the tests were run on L1lth
Avenue near 23rd Street, on a level stretch of track, the rail curface of
which was the same as that on which the car is normally operated, Runs
were made both to and from 25rd Street, while the car was being driven on
both the second and third notches of the controller, readings being taizen
with and without load. fhe records were obtained by a combination graphic
recording voltmeter and ammeter, all reading being checked by portable
instruments. The graphic recording instrument is provided with a marxer
electrically operated by dry cells, the circuit being closed by a contact
which is fastened to the wheel making contact every revolution, Provision
is made on the machine for indicuting on a moving tape, a suitable mark
at intervals of five seconds. The foilowing results were calculated from
data taken curing the tests:
WATTS CON;
TIME OF ACCEL- MILES PER TONS YON TROLLER
VOLTS AMPERES ERATION-. i: ECONDS HOUR WEIGHT MILE POSITION
Lente SPEED
127 27 27 _ 210.8 5.66 56 znd Acceleration
-400 miles per
hour per second
to 10.8 M.P.H.
Average Accel-
erating current
61 Amperes,
7 Passengers on
ie! board, .
116 72 al 15.5 2.66 95.2 Srd Acceleration
: .758 miles per
hour per second
to 15,5 M.H.H. :
Average accelerating
current 140 Am-
pere, 7 Passen-
gers on board,
114.5 82 25 15 6.4 98 Srd Acceleration
-65 miles per
hour per second
Average acceler
ating current
167 amperes.
18 men on boarg
Telegrams:
“FULGURA BERLIN".
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Berlin.n. 15th september, 1910,
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Macuine DEPARTMENT ~—Zinschreibent
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Ta suply please quote te. Ae ae
Thomas A. Edison Esq., fone ge
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Liewellyn Park,
Orange...
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New Jersey.
My dear Edison,
On his return Mr. Kammerhoff has reported to me regarding
the new cells and the possibilities of the new battery, and I must say
that I feel distinctly discouraged, in so far as it will still take a
considerable time; and, last, but not least, very much more money, to
achieve a final commercial success in this battery business.
It is of course understood that 1 never should have thought
of starting manufacturing tube cells if 1 had had any idea of the
great difficulties that have arisen and-the enormous alterations which
have been made all along.
This is far from trying to find fault with you, but we have
to face the music and have to look this unfortunate state of affairs
straight in the face.
- BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (macuiNE DEPARTMENT).
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Thomas A. Edison Esq. , Orange.
Our Shareholders, including the Deutsche Bank, have absolute=
ly lost faith’ in our promises of five years' standing, but 1 cannot
drop this business now and shut down on account of your and my name.
You have written in your letter to Mr. Kammerhoff that I
should put my own money in the battery . I want to tell you that I
have only a certain amount of money to spend, and 1 have already in-
vested over one million marks in your battery out of my own pocket,
not counting the money I have paid,before 1 made the contract with youy
to Dick and yourself. I am not squealing, but I cannot do any more
and invest any more money than I have already done.
I cannot pacify my stockholders as easily as you could yours
at the time when you had to take oven this whole business and fight
it out with your own money. We have promised them in your own
writing at the time, as per enclosed copy, that it was possible to
make a commercial success of this business, and it was only on the
strength of this letter that 1 was able to form this three million
mark company, as at the time and up to now nobody over hem, no matter
who it is, beside myself, would believe in the truth of the statements —
that have been made all along, and in the eventual success of the bat=
tery, but unless you will help me I am at my wits' end now.
I ask you now, to get this new battery started quickly, and,
in order to show the stockholders and other people concerned over here
the possibility of making this a commercial success, to send me the
positive plates until we get fairly started with the new battery.
Torm, S55 11. 8. 09,
BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (macuiINE DEPARTMENT).
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Thomas A. Edison Esq., Orange.
I do not know yet how I can raise the money to do so, and
therefore you had better help me along and send me the positive
Plates for about 4000 or 5000 cells, type A 6, in order to enable me
to go ahead without investing too much money for new facilities.
We need twenty batteries, complete, type A 6, in a hurry, each con =
sisting of seventy-two cells, and if you send me the plates for these
ahead of the others, 1 could put these batteries in service at the ead
of this year and in that way show the good results which can be ob=
tained with your new cells, and the battery will then not be so expen-
sive as if we imported it complete, which, owing to the heavy duties
we have to pay, is almost impossible. I hope that, in this cage,
my shareholders will then be encouraged to go further ahead.
As our flake plant will not be ready for manufacturing on-a
commercial scale for the next three or four months, I would ask you %o
send us the quantity of flake which you promised Kammerhoff, i.e.,
enough flake to make about 20 to 25 cell A 4 per day, and also hydrate
for the same number of cells, According to the figures and calculations
which Kammerhoff has made out, I expect that we can obtain this flake
from you at the price of 80 c. per A 4 cell, because in your last letter
you tell me that your own costs are about 68 c. per A 4 cell.
Now, Edison, pelieve me, it is absolutely imperative that
you should comply with the above request, in order to avoid absolute
disaster in this unfortunate battery affair; please, therefore, t#e~
graph me immediately on receipt of this Letter that you have begun #0
send me the plates, flake, and hydrate in the above-named quantities.
Form, 53311, 8, 09.
“A BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (macHiINE DEPARTMENT).
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Thomas A, Edison Esq., Orange,
; 1 sincerely trust you will now do as I ask you, so that we
may at last be able to clear this situation up a bit.
Yourf very truly,
[ATTACHMENT]
Bofee (7 Hay Mons
Copy.
oO Oe ee oe ee an tee ss 0s 0 0 ee te es es,
ORANG RS, N.J. Oct.1 1904.
Bergmann, Po s42 i579
i figure out the profits which the German Co. will in all
probability make ©
Ifsthe factory makes three hundred cells (18 plate) per day —
costing we will say 3 6. -- per cell and selling for $. 10.=+«, which
is the price we sell in America, the gross profit for one year of 300
days should be $.360,000.-. Deducting the royalty of 60 cents per
cell amounting to $.541000.- there remains § .306000.- deducting six per
cent dividend to the stockholders on the Capital whieh is $.45000.~-
there remains 8.261000, One third of this amount going to German Co.
is $. 87000,- :
Therefore the gross profit to German Co. is
6% Dividend $ 45,000
Proportion surplus profits $ 87,000
$ 132,000
approximately 174 per cent on the stock. in my opinion the proposed
capital is sufficient for a factory including chemical works for manu«
facturing 600 cells daily, in that case the surplus profits going to
the German Co. would be twice as great.
Dividend 6% $ 45,000
Proportion of surplus profits $174,000
$ 219,000
or approximately 29% on the capital stock.
(signed) Thomas A. Edison.
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September 28, 1910.
Mr. Edison:
The cost of nickle plates, each 75/7, plus 20% - .90
Flake, per cell, 67¢, ™ 20% ~ .81
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Macurvne DEPARTMENT :
on reply please quote .
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Orange.
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New Jersey.
My dear Edison,
I am hearing great things about your new battery, and should
be very glad if you would let me know what headway you are making.
, We are pushing ahead with our preparations for the manufact=
ure of the new type cells as quickly as possible. At present we
are working on eight filling machines for filling the pockets, which
are, of course, being built in accordance with the sample you sent me
about eight weeks ago.
A few days ago I received the bills for plates and hydrate,
but am very sorry that no flakes have yet arrived. As you know from
my last Letters, and also from the various letters written you by the
Deutsche Edison Company, it is an absolute necessity for us, and of
the greatest importance, that we should not only have hydrate, but
also flake, as our flake plant cannot be in working order before the ‘~~
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Form 285.8.09.
BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (mAcHINE DEPARTMENT).
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Thomas A, Edison Esq., Orange.
middle of next year. As you are aware, we have to build a special
pbuilding for the flakes and to increase our power plant.
Unfortunately, in your bill for the plates, you do not men-
tion whether you have now really sent me plates for type "A", which I
need very badly, or whether these are for small type B 2 and B 4. In
any case, I hope you will send more plates for the type A in the near
future, so that I can hurry up and make some cells type-A 6 and A 4
and endeavour to sell the same to our customers here.
It may interest you to know that the Italian Navy has lately
been negociating with us with a view to obtaining large cells for
submarines. Last year you wrote mé that you had given some of your
type A cells, standard size, to the Italian Government, through their
Ambassador in Washington, for testing purposes, and apparently the
results obtained during these testghave been so favourable that the
Admiralty now wish to try the cells in submarines. ,
For this purpose, it is of course necessary to build souk
cells of such a large size that at Imst 1200 amps. can be. discharged
continuously, that is, the cell must have a capacity of about BG0s anes.
I sincerely hope we may come to some arrangement with the Italian
Government, even if it takes some tame before the large cells are ready
for testing and use. ;
Enclosed I am sending you a translation of the Minutes of the
Board Meeting of the Deutsche Edison Company, for your information.
Form, 55511. 8.09.
; | BERGMANN ELECTRICAL WORKS (macuHiNE DEPARTMENT).
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Thomas A. Edison Esq., Orange.
Our Exhibit at the International Bkhibition at Brussels
was both technically and commercially a great success, and we received 7
eight Grands Prix. I enclose you herewith a few pictures of our stan, eel
which may interest you. a
I also had the great pleasure of meeting the German Emperor
and Empress with their Suite. The Emperor paid my Works quite some
compliments. I could not escape being snapshotted by Newspaper
Photographers, when the Kaiser was in conversation with me. In
the illustrated paper, "Die Woche", which I am sending you under
separate cover, you will no doubt, if you have not lost sight of me
entirely, be able to find my picture.
Hoping to hear from you soon, I am, with kind regards,
Yours sincerely,
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